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Firm-Fan-6638 Apr 3, 2026 +125

Tragic loss of a young life no one deserves such an end

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lennysinged Apr 3, 2026 +315

For how much people decry Trump's horrible actions, this regime genuinely has no right to exist for all its crimes against humanity. But how can it be dismantled, realistically? After the US finishes its business and presumably leaves, I don't want to return to a status quo knowing these executions and mass civilian killings keep happening while the world just watches.

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Sensitive_Box_ Apr 3, 2026 +192

I genuinely can't tell if Listnookor's are intentionally ingoring all the atrocities committed by Iran, just to complain about the fact that trump is only there for oil. Or if they're actually all literal and/or metaphorical bots...

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theSourApples Apr 3, 2026 +30

Not sure if you've seen the AMA from the iranian. Some comments were literally arguing with the lad calling him a liar

grilledcheeseburger Apr 3, 2026 +230

You can dislike the Iranian regime and still be opposed to unilateral military aggression to depose it. It's not like massive airstrikes are better for civilians.

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yosisoy Apr 3, 2026 +29

Iranians have asked for military intervention for a while now

Tunggall Apr 3, 2026 +64

And proper military operations are beyond the ability of these clowns in charge of the circus.

BigDaddyDumperSquad Apr 3, 2026 +1

What would proper military intervention look like to you?

harribel Apr 3, 2026 +1

I WILL BOMB YOU BACK TO THE STONEAGE! thatk you for attention to this matter.

T_Error3423 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Well you would first need enough man power to both defeat the army and control the country, 20 soldiers per 1000 residents is usually recommended. That being said, looking at Iran's terrain, the size of it's military and paramilitary forces and the roughly 20% of popular support, I doubt that that will be enough to fully defeat any counterinsurgency. Off my head I can only remember one such successful [operation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Emergency) in the last 70 years or so, so I'm not really optimistic. Once you got rid of the regime and the guerillas you could try to establish a democratic system, however a democracy only really works if the people are educated and interested enough to effectively participate, the system itself reflects the values and diverse opinions of the people and the system promotes effective leadership and problem solving. If you don't have that, you get afghanistan in the worst case and something like iraq or any other weak and failing democracy in the slightly less worse case. All in all it would probably take many years, trillions of dollars and thousands if not tens of thousands of lives on your side alone to successfully pull off, with no guarantees and a very good chance of failure. I do not believe that the US, under Trump or not, is competent and willing enough to try something like this.

09f3jns Apr 3, 2026 +31

Many Iranians would be overjoyed if the US swooped in, disposed of their government, and let the Iranian people choose their next leader without Israel's interference. That's obviously not the plan. The US has attacked their oil infrastructure (which is practically their entire economy), threatened to start taking their oil, wants complete control of Kharg Island, has no long-term plan for Iranian regime change except "we'll kill the leader if we don't like him," killed hundreds of civilians in collateral damage, and has no answer to Israeli aggression.

Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +15

USA killed their leader in 1970 and installed a USA friendly one. Then the country had a violent revolution and extremism rose from the ashes left by Americas greed. All because Iran nationalized oil and wanted to audit the exports. America wanted to be able to steal the oil and disenfranchise the country’s population

LilyBelle504 Apr 3, 2026 +1

MI6 was concerned about nationalizing the British oil company. CIA was concerned about the spread of communism from the Tudeh party. Not oil.

Sykotic1313 Apr 3, 2026 -2

US definitely hasn't been apart of strikes against oil infrastructure. They have offered it as a potential, but so far only Israel has been apart of strikes against that particularly. You can be against the war without misrepresenting what is actually happening

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09f3jns Apr 3, 2026 +1

I didn't hit you, the puppet on my hand hit you. Important distinction.

KnottedJewels Apr 3, 2026 +1

Letting rabid Israel do the dirty work while providing weapons and securing airspace is the same as directly hitting those infrastructurs, apart for PR.

Sykotic1313 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Not saying its right by any means but definitely not the case.

Woodpecker-Lobotomy Apr 3, 2026 +1

Literally no reason to make this distinction whatsoever.

Edenz_ Apr 3, 2026 +26

American intervention has historically gone well for the people of the country right?

Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +7

What America did to Iran in the 1970’s caused all of this.

Aggressive-Ad-8619 Apr 3, 2026 +1

The UK had a significant part in it, too. Nobody seems to ever acknowledge that, though.

Knodsil Apr 3, 2026 -7

Sure. Look at Japan and Germany as a prime example

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Edenz_ Apr 3, 2026 +10

When I think of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis murdered and the open-air slave markets of Yemen I'll remember: if they were just a little more like Germany or Japan it would've been great!

CreepinCreepy Apr 3, 2026 +3

I wouldn't exactly put Yemen on the US, that's mostly on the Saudis.

Kixisbestclone Apr 3, 2026 +1

Yeah cause back then the US wasn’t dumb enough to completely throw out the government of conquered nations. See what happened when the US threw out every member of the Ba’athist government of Iraq to see what happens under current American intervention.

09f3jns Apr 3, 2026 +1

It's pretty telling you skipped past 80 years of "Pax Americana" on the entire planet to find an example of US military operations actually doing f*** all for the good of mankind.

mrbear120 Apr 3, 2026 +29

“America first, no new wars!”-DT “Unless people ask nicely and it fits into my timeline to cover up my own crimes!”- also, probably

LilyBelle504 Apr 3, 2026 +1

I remember videos of Iranians supposedly pleading with the outside world not to ignore them in January - as the regime cracked down and then mass restricted the internet. Only for the world to respond with either 1) harsh words or 2) a couple more sanctions

Mike_Phoflacco Apr 3, 2026 +1

Who has? Do you have a name or is this just made up? I really hope your not referring to the Iranian diaspora. Because they don't have any input or influence in Iran nor are they impacted by this intervention.

TheThirteenShadows Apr 3, 2026 +1

They bombed civilian infrastructure. *WHAT is that supposed to do to the regime?*

Abradolf1948 Apr 3, 2026 +6

Why does it have to come from the US where taxpayers can't even afford healthcare or basic necessities? Spending billions of dollars fighting *someone else's* war is f****** stupid. At least prior to Trump we did it for the soft power it gave us around the world. He got rid of all that so now we are fighting someone else's war and getting shit on by our allies for it.

SpaceEngineering Apr 3, 2026 +5

True. This is exactly why we built the UN. We need to build an international community to help them. I know it is not fashionable or quick, but that is the only legitimate way.

SeraphOfTheStart Apr 3, 2026 +1

The thing is UN also consists of people and they'd rather do humanitarian aids to countries that need it instead of a war that would shake global economy and affect everyone's lives, people love keeping their comfort, so to someone in Iran who is longing for freedom UN does nothing while they suffer, they were begging for military intervention, and oddly enough they are nervous but hopeful right now, they were suffering for 47 years already, difference is that now they are willing to suffer, with hopes that it means they can be free of oppression and cruelty.

yosisoy Apr 3, 2026 +1

The UN has solved exactly 0 issues, I wouldn't trust my life with them, sorry.

SpaceEngineering Apr 3, 2026 +1

I think a lot of people in the Balkans disagree.

doltzzz Apr 3, 2026 +16

Iranian diaspora aren't an accurate representation of all Iranian people.

LilyBelle504 Apr 3, 2026 +1

According to past polls, \~80-90% of Iranians living abroad, have family in Iran. Many of whom have lived in Iran, or been there to visit, or were born there. I would say they have a pretty good understanding of Iran actually. Perhaps the issue is many of their opinions differ from your own?

lnth1 Apr 3, 2026 +40

>Iranian diaspora Wonder why you don't hear the same from Iranians in Iran? That's right the IRGC has shut down the internet for a few months now to prevent it.

doltzzz Apr 3, 2026 -13

Im sure if they could access the internet they would be expressing their gratitude toward the US double tapping an elementary school and targeting their universities and infrastructure. When the ground troops arrive they'll surely be greeted by crowds waiting to kiss the feet of their liberators.

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LilyBelle504 Apr 3, 2026 +1

If Iranians in Iran really despise the US and Israel intervention as much as you say they do (obviously because you're an expert on it). Then why doesn't the Iranian government turn back on the internet, and let them tell us themselves?

Difficult_Mousse7976 Apr 3, 2026 +10

There’s a reason why the Iranian terrorist regime has shut down internet since February 28th, same thing they’ve been doing during protests. If they had as much support from the people as their propaganda portrays, they should turn on the internet.

lnth1 Apr 3, 2026 +2

>if they could access the internet they would be expressing their gratitude toward the US Spot on. Exactly why the IRGC keeps shutting down the internet for a few months now.

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Khaganate23 Apr 3, 2026 +6

>they have literally been parading in the streets You mean the ones from IRIB using the same actors for years now? We literally can recognize them from appearing so much on propaganda tv > been parading in the streets. they were parading during Norwuz also like last week The regime beats and arrests Iranians for going outside to celebrate norouz. Nice try. >american propaganda it's sad I'm Iranian. You need help if you trust anything from the regime.

Kavat_ Apr 3, 2026 +3

If non-paid propagandists were actually parading in the streets, why would the Iranian regime cut off the Internet? Wouldn't the regime want the whole world to know how much the Iranians inside Iran support them? But it wouldn't fit your narrative I suppose, if you aren't just a bot, which is also very likely.

lnth1 Apr 3, 2026 +11

Then turn the internet back on, let the paraders proudly broadcast their love for the regime for the whole world to see and shut down people like me once and for all then

Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +1

America forced the sale of tick-tock so it could control the narrative and produce more propaganda. There’s no USA moral high ground you can preach from left

Content_Paramedic746 Apr 3, 2026 +1

You don’t think China runs as much or more propaganda? Is it not strategic to take that propaganda weapon from an adversary. The amount of indoctrinated low history IQ comments made by, what I’m assuming are either mostly college age dipshits or wealthy democratic pontificators that would throw a fit at the city council meeting if there were any attempt to put multi family immigrant housing up next to there Colorado front range, Catskills, Martha’s Vineyard pristine homes hypocrites blows my mind yet never surprises me.

Khaganate23 Apr 3, 2026 +6

So the Iranians cheering and being shot at in their homes in are diaspora now? The amount of roundabout racism to force a narrative and silence minority voices is sickening. I hope you get professional help.

Unicorn_Colombo Apr 3, 2026 +1

For instance, they are alive if they protest against Iranian regime.

peccatum_miserabile Apr 3, 2026 -6

wow… Mommy and Daddy never exposed you to the real world?

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RelationshipShort460 Apr 3, 2026 +2

you saw the giant crowds for the death of khamenie? the regime probably isnt a majority, but they are not without a sizeable contingent of fervent supporters.

ungovernable Apr 3, 2026 +9

The “giant crowds” mourning Khamenei filled a square. Compare that to millions facing the risk of death to go out and protest against him months ago.

Creatret Apr 3, 2026 +1

You can't deny that the regime has plenty of followers. Else it wouldn't be in power still.

Hungry_Muscle_3051 Apr 3, 2026 +3

Oh I see. They asked for "military intervention," lol. How wonderfully vague. Do you think they asked for an elementary school for girls to be blown up? Is that the "military intervention" you speak of? .

arxaion Apr 3, 2026 -2

They asked for intervention, not to have their homes and schools targeted by airstrikes. Not collateral - targeted.

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Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Did “they” ask or was that amplified by people who have ulterior motives/oil?

Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 -1

Oh nice guy USA just giving out such generous favours killing children and blowing up bridges.

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industrial-shrug Apr 3, 2026 +1

So have many other places. What does this place have that others don’t? It’s a mystery!

SpaceZombieZed Apr 3, 2026 +1

Did they ask for school bombings? Don’t pretend trump & co are doing this for the benefit of civilians

7657786425658907653 Apr 3, 2026 -2

show me one.

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theSourApples Apr 3, 2026 -1

When was the last time you've talked to any Iranians? I talked to one who has family in Iran and she said people celebrated and threw parties when khamenei was yeeted. Open your eyes.

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jhgfjkitffddgnmbfrd Apr 3, 2026 +1

I'm good friends with some and sure they hate the regime, but they hate the us even more and it would be the last country they would ask to help to overthrow the regime

Publix_Chicken Apr 3, 2026 +1

Yeah. And the other 99.99% of the population?

Content_Paramedic746 Apr 3, 2026 +1

It’s not like waiting around for them to develop and weaponize a nuclear missile is better for the world.

LilyBelle504 Apr 3, 2026 +1

One can be opposed to anything. But one can also offer no solutions to fix it either. Most every Iranian I've heard talk about this, was pretty happy when Khameini kicked the bucket.

UX1Z Apr 3, 2026 +1

They're not doing this to depose the regime which will exit this conflict with more power and support than ever and likely a path to nuclear armaments. Trump and the US fucked up. If you wanted this regime gone you should have this war more than anyone else.

LuckyBoneHead Apr 3, 2026 +1

Sure, but my only requirement for that would be for people here to dislike the Iranian regime. you have people here unironically making comments like "well, Iran doesn't effect me personally, so why should I hate it when they abuse women, minorities and such!?" They aren't as blatant as that, they conveniently ignore all the terrible things Iran does when they say they don't care. My issue is if you hate Trump so much, shouldn't you hate the government that does everything Trump does but a thousand times worse? No? Because its not America, so people shouldn't hate it? This isn't a controversial opinion, but I will say listnookors largely deserve the stereotype they get. There's a lot of evil people on this site that mistake their evil for virtue.

Skycourts_safety_rep Apr 3, 2026 +21

It’s one thing to be against interventionist actions by the US. It’s another thing to have some sort of bizarre support of the IRGC purely because they are against the US (assuming you are American).

MorienneMontenegro Apr 3, 2026 +5

The fact that Iranian regime needs to go is not mutually exclusive with the idea that U.S. and U.S. intervention in the Middle East is not welcome, and historically neither had benefitted the countries nor improved things in the long run. If anything, some might argue that U.S. and Western military interventions that were fueled more by greed and ulterior motives than altruism is one of the, if not THE driver, of regional instability in the region.

Affectionate_Daddyx Apr 3, 2026 +4

It's incredibly complex, but try to see it as separate issues, domestic vs foreign, not good vs evil. You can even take a step back and read on why the US was criticized by everyone on its action on Venezuela?

whw166 Apr 3, 2026 +9

It's not that we're ignoring them. It's that we've done this before. We deposed of saddam and we were sucked into Iraq for a decade. We went to Afghanistan and we replaced the Taliban with the Taliban. Trillions if dollars later and thousands of our own dead and what do we have to show for it. Now we are repeating the same thing and we can't even focus on our own internal problems.

NationalUnrest Apr 3, 2026 +8

How about hating both? You don’t have to pick a side in this stupid conflict

Sensitive_Box_ Apr 3, 2026 +4

I agree. The problem is, Listnookor's don't *actually care*, they're just armchair experts on everything.

KurucHussar Apr 3, 2026 +10

Some of them are probably russian bots. Simple as that.

s8018572 Apr 3, 2026

More Chinese bot probably, there's a weird trend to praise China recently on listnook.

pleasetrimyourpubes Apr 3, 2026 +3

Do you want to send tens of thousands of men who are not Iranian to their deaths or nah? That is a domestic issue that yes sucks but "regime change" is f****** tough. We are going to hit Cuba next. Wanna see that shit?

ElizBorneopentowork Apr 3, 2026 +2

Or maybe we see this war unfolding, facepalm in front of its stupidity, and since it has already started, hope both side lose.

Far-Pay-2049 Apr 3, 2026 +2

I think many/most are aware of the Iranian government's atrocities against their people..... that doesn't mean that people are cheering and eager for another regime change forever war though? Especially under the familiar pretense of "BUT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A NUKE/WMD" after we already "totally annihilated their capabilities to produce a nuke" just last year. I do not remotely understand how those two correlate to you.

Woodpecker-Lobotomy Apr 3, 2026 +1

Trump isn't doing this for Iran, he's doing it for himself and killing thousands of innocent Iranians in the process. What don't you understand about that?

BigDaddyDumperSquad Apr 3, 2026 +1

Tankies and bots. Tankies will cheer MILLIONS or deaths, so it's not really a surprise they don't care about dictators doing bad things.

Impossible-Finger942 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Well, you see, America bad, and Iran fighting America, so by extension Iran good! This is basically the thought process of a large portion of listnook when it comes to politics and anything involving America.

aznkl Apr 3, 2026 +1

Genuinely can't tell if you're speaking from a place of ignorance, as this kind of geopolitical shit literally happened with Iraq about 20 years ago.

Mike_Phoflacco Apr 3, 2026 +1

I don't have to like the government of Iran in order to want the government of USA to act in the best interest of both the majority of Iranian people as just as importantly the citizens of the United States. In this particular case the us government is acting in way that is making everyone worse off except maybe the few people that own oil exports not going through the SOH.

Vickrin Apr 3, 2026 +1

There are atrocities happening in many countries. The USA only seems to ever have a problem with ones that cost them money. The USA could EASILY make diplomatic inroads into changing these countries. The treaty Obama made with Iran was doing just that. Trump cancelled it though. Countries with poor human rights make certain people money, so they're allowed to continue existing. Simple as that.

Slendercan Apr 3, 2026 +1

It’s disingenuous to say people just care about the affect on oil prices when the US committed their biggest war crime since the Mai Lai massacre. Not to mention this war seemingly providing a window for Israel to invade Lebanon, occupy some land that they’ve said they have no intention of ever giving back. Iran was a complicated situation, well above anyone in the current administration. They have essentially thrown a headbutt, expecting a knock out and have zero plan when their opponent remains standing. If anything they have strengthened Iran’s position and need for nuclear weapons. It’s beyond clear that Israel will take any chance to reduce Iran to rubble and all it takes is them getting in the ear of a US president dumb enough to listen. This war has shown that the US and the world don’t have the stomach for a prolonged ground invasion of Iran, which is an empty threat now that Trump has shown the cards. Also this has been confirmation that Iran hold considerable power with the Strait of Hormuz, with which the west have no answer to apart from hoping Iran are in the negotiating mood. Regardless of all that, what’s the US’ batting average on backing regime changes that don’t devolve into something worse?

Danielc7916 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Do you think our air strikes are not killing them? How is that better?

negativeyoda Apr 3, 2026 +1

The Iranian regime is awful, but if you've studied history you'll see that Iran is the way it is because of western fuckery: the west backing the Shah until it resulted in the Iranian revolution. It's not like the Shah was much better than the Ayatollah Also, cool: the US is there attempting regime change... again. Worked out so well in Afganistán and Iraq, didn't it? The US is good at breaking shit. We're not good at putting the pieces back together. We have no business being there

True_Human Apr 3, 2026 +1

Nah, I'm just a long term thinker, and Trump not succeeding quickly in Iran is good for the Iranians in the medium term because it makes it less likely he cockily does something legitimately apocalyptic towards all of humanity like invading Canada and going to war with the rest of NATO. Which, you know, would likely lead to nuclear armageddon.

Strong_Bowler1723 Apr 3, 2026 -6

Is bombing a girls school an atrocity? The boss in the red hat said "you have to kill their families. Middle easterners dont value their own lives but they value their families. Kill their families" he said that during one of his first debates. You know that. "Pro life" Everyday GOOD people are sickened. Been sick for over a decade. Who even are you people. What even are you EDIT: this post was highly upvoted before the bots and paid propagandists found it, fyi. You all arent fooling anyone. You got checkmated in Iran because your boss spends more time golfing and partying than studying. Good job. Tremendous really! Doing exactly what Putin wanted! Bravo! Niw you cannot pullout without crashing the petrodollar. And you cannot win by going in either. Bang up job! Big league!

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Alexandaross Apr 3, 2026 +3

That's what William Westmoreland famously said about Vietnam. Easterners don't value their lives like Westerners do. It's in the interview included in the Documentary Hearts and Minds. This is the exact quote actually: **"The Oriental doesn't put the same high price on life as does a Westerner. Life is plentiful. Life is c**** in the Orient. And, as the philosophy of the Orient expresses it, life is not important".** Meanwhile the rest of the Doc is devastated Vietnamese Civilians completely broken after the deaths of all their children, wives trying to get inside the Coffin with their dead husbands at their Funeral. "Life is c**** in the Orient" - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vFzN5MbFk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vFzN5MbFk)

SporksInjected Apr 3, 2026 +2

There is no believable tactical reason to spend however many million dollars bombing an elementary school.

ideallyidealistic Apr 3, 2026 +4

... You know nothing in life is either entirely correct or entirely wrong, right? Both Trump and the Iranian regime are human scume, and so we rightly speak out against both. Staying quiet about Trump's warmongering just because his victims are the citizens of an equally shitty regime is the dumbest f****** thing I've heard in weeks.

titeywitey Apr 3, 2026 -2

If Israel and the US governments cared about it, they would have acted when the protests were going on and avoided striking any targets in population centers. But they don’t care.

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Ohthatsnotgood Apr 3, 2026 +34

Why would they have attacked when their forces were unprepared?

SomeCrazyBastard Apr 3, 2026 +22

Preparing for a war takes a while, you know? Literally all through the end of 2025 up until the start of the war massive amounts of logistics and forces were being moved.. Israel and the US have been actively supporting Iranian rebels before the war started via intelligence agencies

YanusYanusovic Apr 3, 2026 +14

Listnook Major General

FarSolar Apr 3, 2026 +5

Realistically, they could not have started this war much sooner than it did. Maybe a few weeks earlier. They could've done some limited strikes during the protests I suppose, but they also would not have been able to prepare well for the response. Iran would've begun launching huge amounts of missiles and there wouldn't have been nearly enough planes and drones available to suppress the launchers.

RogerGoodell69420 Apr 3, 2026 +20

Sounds like you don’t know the logistics of such heavy military action that’s “halfway” across the world. Shit takes time.

RelationshipShort460 Apr 3, 2026 +5

can you cite a reasonable analog where population centers were not struck? there's no regime change unless targets are hit. unfortunately it looks like targets hit and no regime change. worst outcome.

yosisoy Apr 3, 2026

The problem in geopolitics was never "caring". No government is willing to pay the price of intervention except Israel and the US. Weird how in your mind this is a thing against America/Israel. Where was Pakistan? Where was India? Where was China? Where was France? Where was the UK? Where was Spain? We can go on.

yenda1 Apr 3, 2026 +2

the US had no problem intervening 70 years ago to topple the democratic regime in Iran and install a dictator. had they not done that there wouldn't be an Islamic regime after a revolution against that dictator in the first place.

Alexandaross Apr 3, 2026 +1

Democratic is generous. Only a small portion of the population could vote. He won with 8-11 of 136 seats after their group committed assassinations and scared the Shah into ceding power to them. Not that America had any right interfering but "democratic" is a gross exaggeration.

NearsightedNomad Apr 3, 2026 +1

I’m very pessimistic at this point for the future of Iran. The regime I doubt will fully fall unless we make serious commitments to help root it out completely, but that would require the same kind of nation building we catastrophically failed at for Iraq and Afghanistan and there’s no way Trump has the patience for that. And without that kind of presence, I assume the regime will likely maintain its grasp on power and have very fresh memories reminding them of why they chant death to America; and that’ll be on top of the rebuilding that they’ll be able to do with lifted sanctions and increased oil prices they can profit from (seriously, how stupid do you have to be give a huge pay day to your enemies while your also trying to break them as quickly as possible?) There’s no way to know what’s ultimately gonna happen though, Trump’s people aren’t giving *any* real information about what’s even happening or what we’re trying to even do. Maybe the IRGC will be too crippled to hang on, or maybe not. My guess right now is that we’ll still be hearing about the Iranian threat 10 years from now in some form.

midnightrider747 Apr 3, 2026 +1

I 100% get u. Its a very complex problem. The EU for one won't do a thing since they know the Rule don't interrupt an Enemy ( Trump ) when they make a mistake. The world knows too they need to remove the regime but there are unfortunately several problems like ukraine vs russia which europes security and survival depends on. China loons also over Taiwan too I wished we all are in a better situation but with such an hateful dumb US president nobody will help em.

YoureNoHuckleberry Apr 3, 2026 +1

You can hate Donald Trump and also hate the IRGC. We don’t have to pick sides in this one. All we need to do is be there to show support for the innocent civilians who have experienced hell under the current regime and is also having to deal with an active war going on around them to overthrow said regime.

Gone_4_Tea Apr 3, 2026 +1

By going it alone, jumping on the Israeli bandwagon Trump has likely enshrined the regime for much longer.

KuroNekoX3 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Regime has no right to exist and I agree on that but meddling in other countries never worked or made it even worse than before for the people and the region. People of Iran should decide for themselves

amytee252 Apr 3, 2026 +1

The USA still has the death penalty and has mass civilian killings too. Shall we dismantle the USA too? I don't like what is happening in Iran or the USA. If anything, I'd say given how the USA is supposedly a democracy, that is even worse, as that is what people vote for.

sirferrell Apr 3, 2026 +1

I think the average person knows Iran has an evil government but Also doesn’t believe in sending our troops to fix it

Brave_Substance_8177 Apr 3, 2026 +1

There are horrific things happening daily in every country on the planet. The media loves highlighting Iran at the moment to try to justify Israel and America's ludicrous evil, illegal war crimes.

StinkRinky Apr 3, 2026 +1

People decry his actions cuz he’s a dumbass and has no plan. People with way more experience in regime change failed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He also ran on “no more wars” and “America first” Americans are tired of using tax dollars to kill people to enrich few, plain and simple.

Onedweezy Apr 3, 2026 +1

So we should invade every shitty regime in the planet? If anything, we've made the Iranians hate us even more now.

grey_hat_uk Apr 3, 2026 +1

>But how can it be dismantled, realistically? Well bombing economic targets generally makes things worse unless the USA is willing to go all in this action will just make things like this more common. There where before some other options though strong arm diplomacy or arming the rebels but that won't be nearly as effective now. They called Trumos bluff and no it's a forever war.

FewRefrigerator4703 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Execution of 2000 Iranians in few days in worse than what the regime does

Do_itsch Apr 3, 2026 +1

How about Americans sort out their own shit first, before giving advice to anybody else.. it's terrible what happens in Iran, bu didnt the US say they are not the world police anymore?

Strong_Bowler1723 Apr 3, 2026 -8

And when ICE executed two everyday American on camera and called them terrorists? The best way to improve your propoganda (since I highly doubt youre just an everyday person) is to DO BETTER. It really is that simple. You want all Americans to love Trump and hate Iran? Tell your boss to stop tweeting things like, "the only good democrat is a dead democrat". How tf do you expect anyone with democrat family members to give a single damn what you all have to say after that? You really thing GOOD people pick trump over their own family?! We've seen enough. And after that are a million more things. No one cares about your war. You'll all get rich off American blood as usual. GOOD FOR YOU! EDIT: this post was highly upvoted before the bots and paid propagandists found it, fyi. You all arent fooling anyone. You got checkmated in Iran because your boss spends more time golfing and partying than studying. Good job. Tremendous really! Doing exactly what Putin wanted! Bravo! Niw you cannot pullout without crashing the petrodollar. And you cannot win by going in either. Bang up job! Big league!

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Alexandaross Apr 3, 2026 +1

2 vs tens of thousands? C'mon what ICE did was awful but there's magnitudes between the two.

lnth1 Apr 3, 2026

>ICE executed And those guys who shot Alex Pretti (Jesse Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez) will sooner or later face prosecution or at least some legal consequences. Don't believe me? We can bet real money on it, I give it 5 years these guys will not escape it. Even the guy in charge Bovino was also demoted and transferred out of Minnesota immediately after. Slap on the wrist if you ask me, but it's a start. Now with the IRGC, good luck getting anyone held accountable for this murder. And the lives of the 30 thousands protesters they killed in January, the IRGC won't have to take any responsibility for it. None. That's how day and night the difference is with the US.

MoundsEnthusiast Apr 3, 2026 +2

But if it were up to the trump administration, would they face prosecution?

ImOnReddit1212 Apr 3, 2026 +17

Rip 🕊 💔

Low-Elephant-6533 Apr 3, 2026 +59

The Iranian regime is evil.

Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Absolute power always corrupts.

HarangueSajuk Apr 3, 2026 +14

He must be Mossad /sarcasm

Eggonioni Apr 3, 2026 +1

lol nice job making a snide remark for your listnook karma over a headline about a murdered teenager, you didn't need to post that at all.

Hatt0riHanzo Apr 3, 2026 +6

Two regimes can be sub par. Even evil. Comparing how evil the two are is unimportant. Whatever power we have to make one of the two pay for their actions, we should exercise it. If we can make both of them pay, even better. But comparing two evils, who exist under different laws, is just a waste of time. We should do everything we can to dismantle both, which would take different strategies and amplitudes.

Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +1

America will force their poor to pay with Medicare, food security and education cuts. The rich decision makers are too insulated from reality.

uglylookingguy Apr 3, 2026 +5

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un May he rest in peace.

NickelPlatedEmperor Apr 3, 2026 +4

Curious, What is this thing where westerners refer to certain country as regimes and other countries as governments? What are the prerequisites?

jay6432 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Regime is used to refer to undemocratic, authoritarian rule, or dictatorships. Whereas governments implies democratic legitimacy.

MissingPieces555 Apr 3, 2026 +3

My reason for opposing Trumps invasion of Iran is I figured he had no plan to actually ensure the uranium would be secured or that regime change could happen. I figured hes just make everything worse and do it in the most fiscally damaging way. Id say thats what's happening... But the Iranian government itself is beyond evil and needed to go. I just dont believe Trump is actually going to do anything more than pass them off while blowing through billions of dollars.

antivnom Apr 3, 2026 +1

People on listnook support THIS regime due to tribalism btw.

Ev3nt Apr 3, 2026 +1

Hollywood rotted their brains, they think because one side is bad that the other is good but totally dont consider the idea that it is even worse dispite the constant stream of evidence. My anger and Trump/Israel is not in striking Iran necissarily but in doing it in such an incompetant manner with a lack of planning or organizing a proper resistance on the ground to coordonate with.

RisingRapture Apr 3, 2026 +1

Only chance to get rid of this regime: An erratic old pedophile without a plan.

TwoEmbarrassed5829 Apr 3, 2026 +3

people are gonna ignore this but whine about israel planning to execute terrorists. lmao

xxInsanex Apr 3, 2026 +1

You know i gotta give the us and israel credit, probably the only 2 places that can get people rooting for the shithole that is the middle east, at this point yall would probably root for north korea if they went at it

bluedino44 Apr 3, 2026 +1

The Iranian Regeime is horrible, but its imporant to remember its not Americas job to be the world police.

burtgummer45 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Iran desperately wants nukes, so its every bodies problem.

K0TEM Apr 3, 2026 +1

I'm not surprised by the amount of jihadi bootlickers in this site. People out here considered Bin-Laden a hero a few years back because they fell for the "letter to America" propaganda.

Strong_Bowler1723 Apr 3, 2026 -23

I watched ICE executed two everyday Americans on camera and then call them terrorists. That was horrible. So's this I guess though I don't know anything about it. EDIT: this post was highly upvoted before the bots and paid propagandists found it, fyi. You all arent fooling anyone. You got checkmated in Iran because your boss spends more time golfing and partying than studying. Good job. Tremendous really! Doing exactly what Putin wanted! Bravo! Niw you cannot pullout without crashing the petrodollar. And you cannot win by going in either. Bang up job! Big league!

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OhhSlash Apr 3, 2026 +1

do you watch the iranian regime slaughter 30,000 of its own civilians? (this is a low estimate btw)

Chokycorgi Apr 3, 2026 +1

He doesn’t give a shit. Clearly.

givin_u_the_high_hat Apr 3, 2026 +1

We killed Khamenei, Trump says we are basically done, and the US is leaving. And this still happened. Is there any clearer message that nothing has changed?

zero_clues Apr 3, 2026 -1

Ah the we go. Was looking to see how someone was going to try to turn this into trump's fault

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fut_rashy Apr 3, 2026 +1

Such a horrible regime , the fall if this regime will be beneficial to the free world

ZookeepergameNeat421 Apr 3, 2026 -4

Free Palestine and f*** Trump though right? Nevermind the regime.

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estrea36 Apr 3, 2026 +11

Multiple people can be bad at the same time little bro. Stalin fought hitler, but stalin was still a piece of shit.

PatrickGnarly Apr 3, 2026 +1

We got bigger shit to worry about at home. We have so much f****** shit we have to do at home. The last thing we need to do is get involved in some other f****** country’s business again. F*** Trump. F*** Maga and f*** the people that are trying to do anything aside from give the American people what they need to survive.

ZookeepergameNeat421 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Yep and f*** everyone else who might have opposing viewpoint as well, even if you disagree with them.

kfcheong Apr 3, 2026 -24

I have mixed feelings about this. True, this regime is cruel. But Trump is equally cruel. Trump has no qualms about committing crimes against humanity and is already targeting civilian infrastructure which in itself is a crime against humanity. Sending secret police against its own citizen is also a crime against humanity. What is to say that when you topple this regime, another even more cruel regime will come up to take over this regime? Isn't that what happened in Afghanistan after Trump started the withdrawal process? I wished life is just black and white, good vs evil. But it's in shades of grey. There's no one side that is truly right or truly wrong. That's why we need to process things carefully before we take any actions, or before we make quick judgements or condemn anybody. In general, I will always condemn the aggressor. I will always encourage dialogue and diplomatic efforts and Trump has destroyed all hopes of diplomacy but breaking all trust. In this case, I think Trump is the more evil of the monsters

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PinheadLarry2323 Apr 3, 2026 +61

The United States is NOT as equally cruel as the Iranian regime [Recently, Iran has lowered the entry age into the Iranian military to 12, and they have a long and storied history of using child soldiers in the Iran/Iraq war as suicide bombers - and sending them into minefields tied together with rope to prevent escape, so they could be human minesweepers for tanks and adult soldiers](https://www.jns.org/opinion/yoram-ettinger/irans-sickening-use-of-child-soldiers) [550,000+ child soldiers were used in the Iran/Iraq war, with over 36,000 as young as NINE years old being killed. Martyrdom is taught in Iranian schools to this day](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/04/iran-recruitment-of-child-soldiers-as-young-as-12-amounts-to-a-war-crime/) [UNICEF reports 1/5 of ALL marriages in Iran are child marriages. They can legally marry 13 year old girls, and can marry any age with the father’s permission, it’s likely higher than 1/5 as in rural regions it’s common for marriages to not be reported](https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/learning-resources/child-marriage-atlas/regions-and-countries/iran/#:~:text=17%25%20of%20girls%20in%20Iran%20marry%20before%20age%2018%20and%203%25%20marry%20before%20age%2015.) [They just slaughtered 30,000+ civilian protestors in January who were demonstrating against a literal terrorist puppet state who has committed some of the worst human rights atrocities in the world in the span of their 50 year history](https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/) [Ayatollah Khomeini (Iran’s Supreme Leader) stated virgin women are to be raped prior to their executions (largely for minor acts) so they don’t die a virgin, and justified it through his interpretation of his religion](https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmintdev/107/107vw33.htm#:~:text=Based%20on%20JFI%E2%80%99s%20findings%2C%20some%20of%20the%20various%20forms%20of%20sexual%20torture%2C%20such%20as%20the%20rape%20of%20virgin%20girls%20prior%20to%20their%20execution%2C%20were%20conducted%20in%20a%20systematic%20way%20and%20were%20based%20on%20the%20interpretation%20of%20an%20order%20by%20Ayatollah%20Khomeini%20(1979%E2%80%931989)%2C%20the%20Islamic%20Republic%20Supreme%20Leader%20at%20the%20time) [Here’s Iranian Parliament chanting “Death to America” daily](https://youtu.be/GUDLkKmzpeU?si=QiPMeyj8y8gWQfzr) [They are directly funding and arming internationally recognized terror groups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism) [And are visibly, via satellite - enriching uranium past 60% which is only used for acquiring nuclear weapons](https://www.csis.org/analysis/csis-satellite-imagery-analysis-reveals-possible-signs-renewed-nuclear-activity-iran)

Ihavetogoalone Apr 3, 2026 +12

Finally someone with a brain. People who actually think they are the same thing are living in a bubble. If anything the closest thing to Iran is Israel, not the US.

Kryosh Apr 3, 2026 +2

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Ambitious-Shower1044 Apr 3, 2026 +17

I agree with you to an extent however the regime cannot be negotiated with. Coming from someone whose family has lived under the regime for 47 years and I myself have as well. We are more afraid of the regime surviving than actual bombs. And that speaks volumes

Intelligent-Term-219 Apr 3, 2026 +5

I dont live in Iran nor have i been there. I sincerely would like to hear from yourself what is it like living under the regime? Whats the can and cannot do in there?

Ambitious-Shower1044 Apr 3, 2026 +15

Women are second class citizens. People of different faiths (Christian, Bahai, Zoroastrian) are often discriminated against. For example, Bahais are not allowed to own home or businesses. They are often not accepted into universities. Same for Christians however much less extent. You can be jailed for very minor things such as not wearing the hijab properly or holding hands/ hugging your partner in the street. My parents were arrested just for holding hands in the 90s. My aunt was arrested for sitting in front of the bus as opposed to the back. Women are also beaten while in custody. Mahsa Amini was arrested and beaten so severely she went into a coma and later passed. Virgin women are also raped before execution. Homosexuals are also killed. Women cannot initiate divorce even if the marriage is abusive. Women cannot leave the country without their husband’s written consent. Child marriage is legal and often times in rural areas 13 year olds are given away to much older men. We basically have to obey whatever the regime says or risk prison and possible execution ETA: dogs are considered “unclean” and are seized and killed. I will never be able to get my neighbors screams out of my head when her little white poodle was killed right in front of her

DarkCommercial5200 Apr 3, 2026 +7

You forgot to mention child soldiers.

Edenz_ Apr 3, 2026

Do you genuinely think that the Americans obliterating your country will make it more progressive?

pleasetrimyourpubes Apr 3, 2026 +4

Well it wont change without yall taking up arms and fighting along side the ground troops. They have been preparing for this for a very long time.

Positive-Lab2417 Apr 3, 2026 +9

Not reading beyond first three lines but what nonsense? I hate Trump but he’s no way comparable to the Iran government. I know people here have political bias but this is too much. Are you guys so out of touch with what life is in other parts of world?

Ambitious-Shower1044 Apr 3, 2026 +3

I agree. it’s such a slap in the face when Americans complain how bad they have it compared to people living under actual dictatorships.

discoFalston Apr 3, 2026 +3

They can’t think past the most recent news cycle. Trump will be gone in 2.5 years but the psychos in the IRGC are forever.

flowingwisdom13 Apr 3, 2026 -19

lol him and not the 160 school girls murdered by the US/Israel coalition? Or the countless civilian victim deliberately targeted by the US since the beginning of this war?

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Ambitious-Shower1044 Apr 3, 2026 +15

I’m Iranian. Civilians aren’t targeted. The regime works overtime to sell propaganda

Lonan_Clinton Apr 3, 2026 -15

Least obvious mossad agent 👆

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Ambitious-Shower1044 Apr 3, 2026 +13

Whoever is against the regime is a Mossad agent lol. Weirdo Az postam rad sho boro oskol

geeser42 Apr 3, 2026

Its so ridiculous man, I cant believe people fall for this shit

SporksInjected Apr 3, 2026 +1

Why would the US target civilians?

18 year old Amirhossein Hatami was executed today by the brutal Iranian regime. May he rest in eternal peace

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