[3/10] ‘Stranger Things: Tales From ’85’ Review: A depressing, cynical retread of the original, it is a transparent attempt to preserve Stranger Things in pixels rather than amber, allowing Netflix to keep capitalizing on the phenomenon long after its original faces have moved on to other projects.
Should have shown a story in the same town with totally different kids. Other kids would have experienced insane events too. Anything else is impossible. But the main kids experiencing this and never mentioning it is insanity and illogical.
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Elastichedgehog2 days ago
+386
They should have returned to the anthology idea that was the initial premise of the show.
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blueegg_2 days ago
+204
god that would've been great. the ending of the first season was so good and would've been a great ending to that story.
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ABotelho232 days ago
+150
I still argue that Season 1 is the only truly great season.
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Underwater_Karma2 days ago
+61
The show views much better going directly from season 1 to 4.
Season 2 just did season 1 all over again, and season 3 was ""Season 1, now with Mall Russians!"
Going directly to 4 cuts out the redundancy and let the vecna story flow more sensibly and feel less tacked on.
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SituationSoap2 days ago
+41
The mall Russians were one of the most absurd plots I've ever seen in a TV show. Or any media, tbh.
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ItchyIguana1 day ago
+40
Yeah, it is absurd, but so is the whole show lol. Season 3 is my favorite season. It's a thrill ride.
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Ok-Economics-47881 day ago
+26
Absurd, but so fun. Also a very 80’s movie plotline so it doesn’t really bother me, since Stranger Things is an homage to 80s movies.
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ikeif1 day ago
+2
That was my take, as well. "Russians… in America… in our malls! CAPITALISM!" It felt _very_ 80's/red-scare.
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Deviltherobot1 day ago
+7
s3 feels like summer.
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MesaCityRansom1 day ago
+6
Season 3 is my favorite season. It's so much fun, even though it's absurd. But I don't want realism in these types of shows, I want fun.
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bloodpukesalvation2 days ago
+2
It’s a show for kids/teens. The fact that many adults are obsessed over it doesn’t change that.
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Indigocell2 days ago
+8
In hindsight, I agree. Every season basically reset to the status quo, including the development of some important characters like Hopper. It's like every season he starts out as an angry a****** again and has to relearn the ability to listen and show kindness and empathy.
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SpeccyScotsman2 days ago
+21
I think I only was able to watch a few episodes of season two and dropped the series.
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BayHarborButcher102 days ago
+33
Season 2 sucks so much. The Chicago storyline makes no sense and was clearly an attempt at making a spinoff and is just thoroughly uninteresting. Season 3 is better and it is all 80s vibes the full way and is a fun watch. But it’s pretty bad outside of 1 and 3
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fucuasshole22 days ago
+29
4 was pretty good but the backstory of Vecna just doesn’t jive very well with the rest of the seasons. Before season 5, season 2 was my personal worst one (tho the ending of 2 is really great with the dance and Mind Flayer pissed but plotting).
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popcapdogeater2 days ago
+19
Yeah it's weird it's like Vecna was a great villain while on screen, but honestly overall it just doesn't feel like there was a real payoff to it for the journey of our characters.
I think in one of the interviews they straight up admitted they just felt like they needed a villain with a human face. Likely because they felt they needed some sort of "proxy" to explain how they are battling the Cosmic Horror entity in a way that feels "senisble" I guess.
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fucuasshole22 days ago
+8
I was hoping a “Dark Wizard” would occur but not how the Duffers did it.
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popcapdogeater2 days ago
+11
I think it would have been more interesting if Vecna wasn't so powerful, just dangerous because of what he's willing to do to further the Mind Flayers goals. Sort of like a Benjamin Linus character from Lost, and his main "power" is how he finds ways to ingratiate himself into people with power or loved ones of the main characters so it's difficult to expose or confront him openly.
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Murky_Hornet34702 days ago
+7
I truly think that while the story of the show was on life support the introduction of Vecna completely killed everything good about the story. He’s not a bad villain, for a totally different show, but it removed all of the interesting “unknowable horror” type thing that had been slowly killed since S1 and put a face to it
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floormanifold2 days ago
+7
Season 3 had a great body snatchers plot set up then didn't do anything with it in favor of a giant flesh monster, most disappointing season for me
7
Turbulent_Crow71642 days ago
+15
I’ll always mourn that they didn’t. Those guys know how to set up a great short mystery thriller. They should’ve just done it again.
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Foxy02016YT2 days ago
+2
I would love a season that takes place on the Jersey shore in the 2000’s, it’s such a specific time and place that just had to be experienced
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Sammii5112022 hr ago
+2
MIKE STAHP
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WildHeartSteadyHead2 days ago
+495
Agreed, and we don't need another 11 in that scenario either. How about just a bunch of kids unraveling the mystery and saving one another. More characters like Eddie and Nancy. Interesting, nuanced, brave, scared.
Would've been so much better.
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UnreliableNarr8or2 days ago
+191
These writers don't know how to resolve a conflict without having a character like 11 to literally hand wave the danger away.
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TheWorclown2 days ago
+75
She has to use TWO HANDS this time! It’s so dangerous and threatening!
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dragonmp932 days ago
+21
At least they can't have 11 killing herself for c**** drama here
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LiamMorg1 day ago
+5
Don't forget the yelling, that's a critical ingredient of her plot manipulation
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Born_Procedure_5292 days ago
+35
The classic "whats the point of a spinoff if it retains the space principle characters" issue
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hikemalls2 days ago
+58
And/or gone the IT: Welcome to Derry route and have each season follow a group in a completely different time period where different weird things appear to be happening (could have even been a way to get the plot of the The First Shadow out to wider audiences and expand on that story; having it be relevant to the plot of season 5 while inaccessible to most of the audience (aside from a couple flashback hints) still feels insane to me)
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MVRKHNTR2 days ago
+28
And abandon the 80s nostalgia that the showrunners don't even have?
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hikemalls2 days ago
+22
As a wise man once said, there's nothing more 80's than 50's nostalgia
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nancybyersharrington2 days ago
+46
It’s crazy because Holly and her friends were right there. They spent a stupid amount of time establishing them, but left plenty of room to give them whatever personalities would be convenient for an animated series, so they could have at least made the best of that. But they were too lazy to try anything different or risky I guess
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TriggerHappyGremlin18 hr ago
+2
The Upside Down was destroyed in the finale. What was there to do with them? I guess it could’ve still been a prequel, but how far back? Holly and co. are supposed to be eight or something in Season 5.
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JeanRalfio2 days ago
+23
The comics do this following different side characters like the other cops, the bullies from season 2, other lab kids, Russians, etc.
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Less-Engineer-96372 days ago
+3
I love the comics because of this
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pocketMagician2 days ago
+48
Original? Creativity? No no no no, algorithm says rehash!
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curien2 days ago
+20
Stranger Things itself is just a rehash of beloved 80s media. If you like Stranger Things at all, you liked at least one rehash.
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NefariousBlue2 days ago
+8
Design by Big Data.
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punkrocklily2 days ago
+7
Or just set it between season 4 and 5 so that the time jump between 4 and 5 isnt so jarring. Like we still dont really have information about that time period except military everywhere and the crawl set up.
But your option works really well to.
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DigbyDoesDallas2 days ago
+19
How often do we see this. A potentially interesting concept but you know 99 times out of 100 the executives want to milk the same story, and we get trash devoid of anything remotely interesting because TV is so risk averse these days.
Another great example is Star Wars. How many times could they have gone down a different path within the same universe, but the always come back to the Skywalker saga. Boring and entirely predictable.
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Raoul_Duke92 days ago
+12
While you're not wrong - they probably SHOULD have centered the first movie back around Luke Leia and Han. All they had to do was make an Heir to the Empire type trilogy where by the end they have completely passed the torch to new characters and they fucked it up.
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nancybyersharrington2 days ago
+8
They clearly thought they had all the time in the world to waste with the OT actors. Makes me so mad
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Death_Binge2 days ago
+1
What's crazy is that there's still life in the Skywalker saga - the Legends canon is a goldmine.
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BeyoNeela2 days ago
+19
But it’s so much easier to feed the same kids thru AI than make new AI kids and risking them looking weird…
/s
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SuperSaiyanTupac2 days ago
+3
Should have been an anthology. The story didn’t really improve after season 1. There are some highlights, but any kids could have substituted the main cast
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Judson_Scott2 days ago
+3
Everything after season 1 should have been different stories in the same universe. It got really bad.
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WoweeZoweeDeluxe2 days ago
+2
Should've been a mini series instead
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colemon19912 days ago
+2
Should have been a movie then. Big enough that it's worth telling but short enough that it's a blip on the radar in the grand scheme of things.
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LuinAelin2 days ago
+526
Didn't realise this was out today .
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Pale_Possibility50832 days ago
+271
This thing really needed to come out between the last seasons. It’s kinda hard to care deeply about these little side stories when you already know how everything culminates.
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Tibbaryllis22 days ago
+147
The Black Widow effect.
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PayneTrain1819992 days ago
+65
If Feige had full control in 2015-16, it would’ve come out after Civil War like it was supposed to.
The delay did mean we got Florence Pugh as Yelena though, so it’s not all bad.
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nancybyersharrington2 days ago
+15
It’s easy to say in retrospect, but when they announced that decision I had an awful feeling they were just throwing shit at the wall and hoping for the best with no real plan moving forward. Hated to be proven right
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dragonmp932 days ago
+14
Well, Perlmutter was famously against any movie having leads that weren't a white guy while he was in control.
So it was more like a better late than never situation.
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Zykium2 days ago
+3
It doesn't help that a big chunk of that movie is just boring.
The scene where they escape and are talking in that house dragged and dragged.
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JonMatrix2 days ago
+4
That’s how I felt about Titanic.
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Shmeeglez2 days ago
+168
I didnt realise this was thing at all.
...I really need to cancel that subscription.
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red_rob52 days ago
+8
Mine officially ended today! Pull that plug brother
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TMLTurby2 days ago
+13
It's felt like the only ad I've seen for weeks
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ScreamingNinja2 days ago
+7
Yeah i literally just learned it existed yesterday, and today i turned on netflix for my son and there's a giant banner that it's out.
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AssociateLittle14872 days ago
+7
I hope the show overall won’t be too bad
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Sufficient-Play18332 days ago
+3
Don't hold on to that hope.
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hockenduke2 days ago
+61
This dosn’t look 80’s at all.
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TheAmazingSealo2 days ago
+253
Why does it look like a Telltale game?
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iwishihadnobones1 day ago
+7
So I still don't actually know what this is, and that was my first thought. Is it a show?
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TheAmazingSealo1 day ago
+7
Yes, an animated spin-off of Stranger Things set between season 2-3
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Lespaul421 day ago
+2
I have always assumed until right now that this was a game....
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[deleted]2 days ago
+69
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muad_dibs2 days ago
+110
Netflix did not buy the original Telltale Games when it went out of business or the new Telltale Games. I think you’re confusing the monitoring tool, with the same they bought, with the gaming company.
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Judson_Scott2 days ago
+94
> Netflix bought Telltale
Only on listnook does this type of obvious bullshit get an upvote.
Netflix did not buy Telltale.
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RustyShackleford9252 days ago
+38
They were so confidently wrong. It really is annoying this person didn't bother to do a quick Google search before spewing this out
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OLKv32 days ago
+16
As long as you post what the majority wants to believe, you'll always get likes/upvotes/whatever on the internet
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strawberry_pop-tart2 days ago
+11
Well now if the comment gets enough traffic, the Google search AI will just say Netflex did buy Telltale, and cite the comment.
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IMDXLNC2 days ago
+7
I hate how confident they always are, and how they never respond when called out.
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benmeroff2 days ago
+2
Always the accounts with all their comments hidden so they can cash in on the easy karma and never bother caring if they get called out for apathetically spreading misinformation, who needs dead internet theory when you have this kinda lazy bullshit
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tinyrickstinyhands2 days ago
+52
Original Telltale was licensed to make a Stranger Things game for Netflix
At no point ever, did Netflix buy Telltale Games
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Tadpole-Jackson2 days ago
+11
Netflix didn't buy Telltale, what are you on about?
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TheAmazingSealo2 days ago
+26
Oh my f****** days you're right
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mike10dude2 days ago
+8
Still there has been lots of speculation that maybe this did somehow start off as the game they were making because of how it looks
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ThePrussianGrippe2 days ago
+6
Not fully. Netflix never bought Telltale.
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jerog12 days ago
+10
RIP Telltale. Smothered to death by cash
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remmanuelv2 days ago
+19
TT's death was entirely about lack of direction and leadership leading to repetitive underwhelming products and lackluster sales.
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SutterCane2 days ago
+7
Yup!
Some of those games were just “choose left or right… SIKE you’re going right but if you pick left, we have something happen that forces you right” one too many times.
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helvetica_unicorn2 days ago
+96
Tales of ‘85 should’ve told the story from a different character’s perspective. Maybe it would’ve taken place inside of the Hawkins lab or something. Maybe it would’ve been from Brenner’s POV.
Also, this animation style is the WORST! Make it look like 80s cartoons of the time with a modern twist. This looks like Frozen or something. Just hideous.
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edked1 day ago
+3
Yeah, the visual style is frickin' repellent.
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Nuclear-Jester2 days ago
+293
Look, Netflix didn't manage to buy WB, the Witcher is falling apart and Emily is no longer in Paris
Stranger Things was the only franchise Netflix could mass produce to get more money
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AdmiralCharleston2 days ago
+144
They could just keep funding tim robinson to make whatever the hell he wants and I would pay double the subscription fee
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ButtMuddAaronBrooks2 days ago
+56
Wait, they might bring back Corn Cob TV!?!?
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Vengeance1642 days ago
+30
I called Comcast, and I said IM NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.
Besides, you can show the dead bodies cuz they ain't got no souls, everyone knows about that FCC loophole.
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BombTheDodongos2 days ago
+18
The guys at Netflix think he's just some dumb hick. They said that to him at a dinner.
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BLAGTIER2 days ago
+13
> They could just keep funding tim robinson to make whatever the hell he wants
That would be a zipline.
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AdmiralCharleston2 days ago
+7
I mean i like that you can drop into the pool but I cant quite remember...
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clycoman2 days ago
+64
Are you forgetting how big the Bridgerton franchise is?
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DankAF942 days ago
+71
One Piece is also going insanely well at the moment
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EshayAdlay4202 days ago
+10
I think it's just doing good as far as a live action of a beloved anime goes, it's not like a blockbuster anywhere close to ST or Bridgerton no?
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Rage_Like_Nic_Cage2 days ago
+10
I went to that Netflix House thing at the Galleria in Dallas over Christmas, and One Piece was prominently featured there. Like on equal footing as K-Pop demon hunters, stranger things, and Squid Game. those were the big 4, so it’s safe to assume it is very popular.
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PayneTrain1819992 days ago
+13
Plus, Netflix has the anime, eventual anime remake, and they’re doing a Lego One Piece show which they didn’t have to do but they’re committing to the series
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DankAF942 days ago
+4
I saw an article after S2 released that One Piece has the potential to be the next Harry Potter scale franchise. Honestly, it's early days, but I could kinda see it happening.
Anecdotally in the last year or two I've seen One Piece merch pop up absolutely everywhere, naturally it's gaining a hell of a lot of a following now, when previously it was only a big thing within the anime community
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breidaks1 day ago
+3
> One Piece has the potential to be the next Harry Potter scale franchise
one piece already is the biggest well known comic on the planet lmao
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WhyLisaWhy2 days ago
+3
Same, the one in my area had a big One Piece escape room type activity too that we did with a friend and their kid. One Piece, Wednesday, Kpop, ST, Bridgerton and Squid Game were all front and center.
I also laughed when I saw Tim Robinson's goofy face in the food area lol.
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PayneTrain1819992 days ago
+6
Stranger Things reached a higher level than anything else since Squid Game.
Bridgerton and One Piece are in that next tier down with Wednesday and some of the dating shows. These are the main flagship shows of Netflix barring one of the reaching that next level.
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Boom_chaka_laka2 days ago
+3
I'm not entirely sure about this but since it's based on a book I'm sure they pay a certain percentage to the author and perhaps there's more limitations on licensing ect same with One Piece since it's not a Netflix original IP.
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TrueLegateDamar2 days ago
+40
Don't forget Snyder's Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon failing to become big IP's.
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HankHippopopolous2 days ago
+54
Rebel Moon would have succeeded if they only spent more time with slo mo shots of grain.
45 minutes of grain just wasn’t enough.
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IMayBeIronMan2 days ago
+30
Whenever grain wasn't on screen, all the characters should have been asking, 'where is the grain', 'who is harvesting the grain'
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BGummyBear2 days ago
+2
The grain died on the way back to its home planet.
I haven't seen the movies, but it wouldn't surprise me if that actually happens in them.
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ScreamingNinja2 days ago
+5
i have no idea what you're talking about since i haven't seen the movie, but your comment made me laugh regardless.
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Alt48162 days ago
+8
> Snyder's Army of the Dead
They clearly thought that movie would spawn a big franchise. There's was a lot of bizarre unexplained things in the background of it.
Off the top of my head I remember there being aliens, random robot zombies, and dead alternate versions of the heist team.
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Carighan1 day ago
+2
Yeah Snyder really managed to outsnyder himself with Rebel Moon, tbh. Haven't slept this well in a long time...
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Pyro-Bird2 days ago
+17
The Witcher already fell apart.
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Waste-Scratch29822 days ago
+29
There’s still Wednesday, One Piece, Avatar: The Last Airbender, K-Pop Demon Hunters, and Bridgerton. Netflix works best when they find a surprise hit, Stranger Things, Squid Game, and K-Pop Demon Hunters were not made initially to become a flagship series for them. They often fail when they put too much money in a series or movie and try to hype it up as the next big thing and it doesn’t work, like Rebel Moon, Three-Body Problem, 1899, and Jupiter’s Legacy.
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Kohei_Latte2 days ago
+2
whoa whoa whoa, putting 3-body problem in the same sentence with Rebel Moon is such a hot take.
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Waste-Scratch29822 days ago
+4
I like the show but it didn’t do the viewership numbers they wanted based on the budget which was apparently near $200m for the season and the pedigree of having the Game of Thrones showrunners, but their reputation took a massive hit from the final season. It felt like Netflix reluctantly renewed it to not burn bridges with Benioff and Weiss since they have an overall deal with Netflix and they want them to make more.
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donuts_and_bolts2 days ago
+8
***Netflix was paid $3B to NOT buy WB. Mega shortsighted take.
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Savber2 days ago
+8
They literally got $2.8 billion for free from Paramount. I don't think they care.
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gcbofficial2 days ago
+47
Honestly they do a great job with everything related to anime and I feel they are very in touch with that consumer base. They really are running thin everywhere else. For a while they were finding a lot of fun stuff like Dark to include in their catalogue. I wish they were able to push out Black Mirror more frequently.
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GenericGaming2 days ago
+36
>Honestly they do a great job with everything related to anime and I feel they are very in touch with that consumer base
eh, they kinda flubbed JoJo's since getting the rights to it and a bunch of their non original/funded anime are spotting across the world. in the UK, we were missing random seasons of shows like My Hero Academia missing season 3 for no reason, Naruto only having season 1, One Piece just having random arcs here and there.
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Omatzus2 days ago
+22
They also fucked up live action Cowboy Bebop
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NemoNewbourne2 days ago
+6
Yes. By creating one.
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storefront2 days ago
+3
>I wish they were able to push out Black Mirror more frequently.
Woah woah woah, in a very ideal world, yes, but knowing how these things tend to play out, I’m perfectly fine with longer gaps as long as it means quality
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gcbofficial2 days ago
+2
Loll you’re right of course, I just wish they’d find a way to do side projects related to it or something in between seasons. There’s so much room for storytelling in that realm, especially these days.
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LeftHandedFapper2 days ago
+3
Dorohedoro is peak anime
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CerberusZX2 days ago
+2
>Honestly they do a great job with everything related to anime and I feel they are very in touch with that consumer base.
The anime community uses the phrase "Netflix jail." Many want to watch weekly and are dissatisfied with Netflix's insistence on using the binge model, especially since the shows are available elsewhere and spoilers can spread.
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Nofrillsoculus2 days ago
+2
I’m pretty sure their reality offerings are doing pretty well. Wish they’d make another season of Building the Band though, that show was so much fun.
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tylerthe-theatre2 days ago
+27
Witcher is ending not falling apart, Emily is indeed back in Paris. They still have One Piece... and random originals that will end up sucking.
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seztomabel2 days ago
+24
The Witcher fell apart years ago
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Nuclear-Jester2 days ago
+13
I always assumed they were hoping to get some spin-off from the witcher
Didn't Netflix produce a movie set in the Witcher universe that got a 0% on rotten tomatoes?
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Pyro-Bird2 days ago
+6
It was a mini-series not a movie.
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Alt48162 days ago
+2
They did a live action show/miniseries that has a very bad 29%/13% on Rotten Tomatoes. (And personally it might be literally the worst show/miniseries/movie I have ever watched)
They did 2 animated Witcher movies too. One has good scores on Rotten Tomatoes and the other is rotten.
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amyknight222 days ago
+9
> Witcher is ending not falling apart
It's ending because it fell apart.
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NotACatfish2 days ago
+6
The Witcher is on fire.
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milkyjoe2412 days ago
+3
And yet they are sitting on the rights to Something Is Killing the Children
Which is very Stranger things like but is built to be more expansive and has more world building
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Demerzel692 days ago
+7
One Piece is huge with no end in sight.
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PayneTrain1819992 days ago
+4
As long as they keep filming a new season every year, they’re set for awhile. The actors are young enough to still play their characters for at least 5 years.
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Kamakaziturtle2 days ago
+4
Not to mention there being a timeskip where all the characters come back looking noticeably older (which is kinda funny considering it's not that long) so they have some wiggle room if they decide to take it that far.
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BurgerNugget122 days ago
+2
Wednesday?
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awnshegh2 days ago
+131
Looks nice enough. But the story breaks canon in multiple places. But it's great for my son who love stranger things and is just happy to watch pumpkins going nuts.
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Disastrous_Wing70842 days ago
+102
Yeah, from the review: "That the gate between our world and the Upside Down in the Hawkins Laboratory basement is technically shut at this point in the master narrative is a mere technicality that’s easily handwaved" - sounds like they have had to awkwardly shoehorn this plot between two Stranger Things seasons where it doesn't quite fit
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BLAGTIER2 days ago
+24
Sounds like the Dragon Ball Z movies where pretty much all them can't happen in canon because Goku is dead or whatever at the time it is set.
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yuriAza2 days ago
+52
ah, classic "everything resets by the end" filler
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AllTheReservations2 days ago
+67
In the announcement they discussed how they wanted the show to be like an old 80s Saturday Morning Cartoon. Which makes sense when you think about old cartoon spin-offs for films, which don't tend to fit in properly with the universe of the original.
But I have the feeling that's something they came up with after the fact, rather than their entire design philosophy since the show doesn't do anything else to reflect that specific era of cartoons
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titusandroidus2 days ago
+38
Yes, and those film spinoffs weren’t done on purpose that way either. They were cash grab with usually very different creative teams doing their best. Like how video games used to have plots not connected to their film beyond some very loose threads.
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BLAGTIER2 days ago
+6
Also those cartoons couldn't use actor likenesses and often only had access to the source material or the movie script but not both.
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Spank862 days ago
+48
What they should really do is pay Noah Schnapp a few quid to do a scene of him drawing a comic book and have it bookend each episode.
Then we know any discrepancies are because of this. Plus its suitably retro.
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natrous2 days ago
+5
this is a great idea.
also it feels like the old cartoon aesthetic, like how Bobby's World had howie mandel start the eps
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[deleted]2 days ago
+18
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AllTheReservations2 days ago
+11
Oh yeah, that's absolutely what this is. And explains why the show's set in such a specific point of time in the show (besides that just being a point where everyone was alive and together, besides Robin)
And like, this would have worked a lot better as a game, since that would at least make it clearer that it was more a soft-canon/non-canon thing. Like with the GOT Telltale game
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TheJoshider102 days ago
+10
Literally all I wanted was slice of life adventures featuring the cast we know and love, to flesh out relationships that may have been lacking in the main show. Instead we got some forced new characters and monsters for no reason.
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PennySawyerEXP2 days ago
+54
"Did the Hellfire Club not survive the digital transition?" the writer asks...shortly after saying that the series takes place between seasons 2 and 3, long before Eddie and Hellfire were introduced. (I get not giving this series the time of day, but come on)
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Gh0stMan0nThird2 days ago
+28
I think the problem is S4 introduced Eddie and Hellfire as if they were always around, though. Eddie wasn't a new kid and the gang had been playing with him for an extended time.
So if you're going to do a reboot anyway, why would you not add the characters you retconned into saying they were always there?
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Alt48162 days ago
+25
If I remember right in S4 Eddie mentions finding Mike and Dustin as new freshman to bring into Hellfire club. The Mike, Dustin, Lucas, Will, and Max group weren't in high school yet in season 3.
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Gh0stMan0nThird2 days ago
+3
I don't remember tbh but if so, Steve, or Jonathan, or Nancy, etc. should still have ran into him at some point. Especially if he was playing the same game as their little brothers.
3
Alt48162 days ago
+9
Steve and Nancy know who Eddie is in season 4 but they're clearly not friends coming into that season. Depicting them as friends or sharing some supernatural experience that takes place in between seasons 2 and 3 would mess up the timeline.
9
Wetzilla2 days ago
+3
Did you read the article? This is the context,
>Dustin even re-christens the group the Hawkins Investigators Club, a particularly groanworthy development since there’s already a fictional member’s group that unites the ragtag gang. (Did the Hellfire Club not survive the digital transition?)
Yes, the Hellfire club exists in the world of Stranger Things at this time, but the kids group would not be called this at this point in the timeline.
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TheRoscoeVine2 days ago
+21
My kids might like it, but I had already noped on that one.
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VinDieselsToeBeans2 days ago
+19
I still wish the series would have been seasonal anthologies that focused on various random paranormal/interdimensional stuff. Hawkins could be like Derry and just have an insanely dark history, if they wanted to keep it in one location. Would loved to have seen various time periods. Something akin to the Fargo TV series.
Ah well.
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DramaOnDisplay2 days ago
+5
That sounds so much better and it’s such a letdown that they went this route. Any future plans in this universe look bleaker the farther away they get. With how long shows tend to be “in production” now, it’s hard to get excited about the future of this franchise.
5
Noodle-Works2 days ago
+4
They raised the subscription fee for trash like this.
4
HardcoreKaraoke2 days ago
+5
So the author doesn't really go into if the show is good, just that it's unnecessary because it takes place between two chapters and kind of messes up the current canon. I guess that's fair but it could still be a good show.
>Dustin even re-christens the group the Hawkins Investigators Club, a particularly groanworthy development since there’s already a fictional member’s group that unites the ragtag gang. (Did the Hellfire Club not survive the digital transition?)
This takes place between seasons two and three. The Hellfire Club wasn't a thing until season four.
5
Robert_B_Marks2 days ago
+2
The thing that was eyebrow raising for me was that it was being advertised in my kids' Netflix profiles (for context, my oldest is 7).
Seriously, what the hell?
2
OmegaDez1 day ago
+3
I guess you're too young to remember we had Ghostbusters, Rambo and RoboCop cartoons in the 80s and early 90s.
This is pretty much the point of this show.
3
8540rockst-jc2 days ago
+3
I like the show. And I’m really old. Lol 😂
3
Zen_Hydra2 days ago
+3
Quelle surprise. The only thing that seems to matter anymore is money. Those so wealthy and removed from the reality of the way the rest of us exist are somehow viewed as aspirational, instead of the destructive, opportunistic monsters that they truly are. Nothing will ever improve unless the majority of humanity (those who aren't billionaires) take action to tear down the palaces of these modern tyrants, and drop them in the oubliettes they deserve to spend the rest of their days in.
3
KaseyOfTheWoods2 days ago
+3
So basically the direct to DVD sequels we used to get?
3
wendlle1 day ago
+3
I liked it 🤷🏻♀️
3
MSD1011 day ago
+3
It's fine...Not as captivating as the original, but it's interesting to see the characters do things that you can only do with animation (CG). I guess I'd give it a 5/10.
3
ShaH33R2K2 days ago
+9
I think the lameness of the upside down in the last season killed any hype for spinoffs of any sort for me. Whether they’re related to the main cast of characters or not
9
BigDumDumer2 days ago
+4
If that's actually what the show is modeled like, it has much worse problems than the story.
It looks like absolute dogshit.
4
unknown-one2 days ago
+10
yeah... wont event t****** it
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JayKay87872 days ago
+4
They really thought they could half ass that ending and still keep fan interest for their spinoffs lmao.
4
Johnny02302 days ago
+15
I'm finding it enjoyable, but it has a lot of plot holes compared to the main series, and the story is not very ambitious so far.
15
cryptic-fox2 days ago
+51
So what do you find enjoyable about it?
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samcuu2 days ago
+8
The familiarity.
8
Redeem1232 days ago
+6
It's possible to enjoy things that aren't ambitious.
6
hillean2 days ago
+2
Well, it's a way to capitalize now that these kids are like in their 20's... but yeah
2
dembonezz2 days ago
+2
The series itself was already too long. More isn't something anyone was asking for.
2
Bomban1112 days ago
+2
Just dragging the corpse of this universe until it spits out every last penny.
2
ToneBone123452 days ago
+2
Should’ve let it die
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VexedCanadian842 days ago
+2
the only problem I have with the review is the writer's confusion about the Hell Fire Club
2
altcntrl2 days ago
+2
I’m not saying it is wrong but this take is like the default opinion of criticism when you hear this show exists.
2
cmz3242 days ago
+2
I actually really like the art style but yea I don't get making it between seasons 2 & 3. Either do prequel, sequel or do different characters there were so many better options.
2
panguy871 day ago
+2
It was watchable and mostly enjoyable, but very derivative of prior live action seasons, a side quest if you will.
The character introduced as Nikki was a good vibe fit.
2
AverageJoe69101 day ago
+2
You take cartoons way too seriously. Good lord…
2
nowhereman1362 days ago
+8
I actually liked season 5 of Stranger Things. It was definitely flawed but overall an adequate and entertaining finale.
I have almost no interest in watching this new special. It feels c****. It doesnt exist to build on the established franchise but to keep selling toys
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animatedpileofmeat2 days ago
+4
With you on that one.
When they first showed it off I legit thought for a hot second it was a video game, like a top-down sorta shooter thing. Feels less like an authentic story and more like a toy come to life, but not even in any of the fun ways they coulda done it.
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krectus2 days ago
+2
I give this review a 3/10. It really is just shitting on the concept and clearly the reviewer went into it hating on the idea and barely spends time talking about the content of the show and most of it is a cynical depressing retread of hating on the idea of this show even existing.
2
10v12 days ago
+4
Did epic games make this for them? Why does it look like fortnite?
4
Flimsy_Big79912 days ago
+6
Flying Bark Productions in Australia made this. No connection to Epic.
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GammaFan2 days ago
+4
It looks close enough to a telltale games production to fuel rumours that it was originally going to be a video game.
4
GaryTheCabalGuy2 days ago
+4
This looks literally nothing like Fortnite, what are you talking about?
4
JamStan19782 days ago
+5
yall are so dramatic. This is like the equivalence to the beetlejuice or ghostbusters cartoon. Fun show for kids.
5
dztruthseek2 days ago
+3
Just another situation of the talentless getting paid to be talentless and uncreative.
3
jideru2 days ago
+4
ST was fun, it tried to stick the landing, did a bit better than some shows, worse than others but let’s just let it go now Netflix.
:itsalreadydeadmeme
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ThatGuyFromTheM0vie2 days ago
+2
Stranger Things was originally meant to be an anthology series where each season would be a new cast and new story.
I really wish they kept that lol.
S1 was so good. S2 was a retread. S3 was a retread + teen angst + Russians. S4 was good but the cast being split sucked. And S5….well lol.
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fucuasshole22 days ago
+6
How was season 3 a retread? It was the opposite lmao:
Meat Flayer gathering an army of ”zombies” from normal people with Billy as their guide. Their whole goal was to eliminate El as a threat. Which actually worked as she ended up losing her powers. Flayer also gains the ability to create gates from sacrifices, which Vecna ends up doing in season 4.
Season 2’s plan with the tunnels was the main plan and goal as revealed in season 4 or 5 but changes had to be made with Hawkins successfully fending off the demodogs.
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CabbageMoosePing2 days ago
+2
Sounds like Netflix looked at Stranger Things and said, “Copy homework, change a few words.” I might still watch if I’m bored, but maybe this should’ve been a tight one-off special instead.
2
GroundbreakingPage412 days ago
+2
Just let it go already, they already made a new season no one asked for and a show about filming the last season.
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