>Two were passengers who left the cruise ship in late April and four might have been exposed on two separate flights.
Wait.. so others were exposed on seperate flights as well as the cruise ship?
Edit: they were exposed, not infected
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ntsp002 days ago
+260
Exposed ≠ infected. Those are two completely different words.
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Born_Inevitable_87552 days ago
+118
I happened to have done some reading on hanta several months ago to soothe my anxieties when tackling some found mouse activity in my home that I had to clean up myself. Granted I'm no expert, but my limited and very pedestrian understanding is that it's a surprisingly fickle virus.
It doesn't like heat, direct exposure to the sun will kill it within hours. Bleach kills it within 10 minutes. Usually a slim percentage of rodent population carry it (I believe about 10%), and even then only certain species are vulnerable to it. Even after source exposure (direct contact with infected rodent waste such as to the eyes or mouth or open wounds/bites, or airborne exposure to disturbed waste and nesting material) infection is considered "rare". Out of, if I remember correctly, 5-6 variants of hanta, only this specific version of the virus is understood to be transmitable between people. However, when it does take hold it's often lethal. About a 40% fatality rate.
It makes sense; there's so many rodents in the world that have lived so close to humans, if it were any more viral or prolific, we would suffer as a species. That's not to account for potential mutations, and the fact that the virus is generally understudied due to lack of known cases.
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desertrat752 days ago
+39
> Bleach kills it within 10 minutes
So you can kill it with some sort of injection? I'm gonna have RFK check into that.
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Born_Inevitable_87552 days ago
+8
HAH! Username checks out too...hmm.
For those deaf to sarcasm: Obviously not in that sense, but in the sense of surface disinfection. The CDC right now only recognizes bleach as a proper cleaning agent for killing the virus, tho I'd like to see if they expand that list, as I like to use hydrogen peroxide as a household "bleach" (pet & baby safe), and I've never seen that *not* kill something. Rather than sweeping or vacuuming any mouse nesting or waste, you'd spray a bleach solution and let it sit for about 10 minutes, then wipe it up.
You shoulda seen me in my respirator and goggles anyway. Shit freaks me out big time, especially as a first time mama living in the woods.. It's a scary virus, should it get ahold of ya!
I needed that laugh in this grim time, thank you. Don't inject bleach, folks. 🫠✌️
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desertrat752 days ago
+2
Actually, I'm surprised bleach would take 10 minutes to be effective. I might think that it would be instantaneous. Hanta is a tough customer, apparently.
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Upbeat-Fondant91851 day ago
+8
Many viruses and bacteria take that long to kill even with commercial grade disinfectants. If you read the labels most will refer to “dwell time” which is the amount of time the surface must remain visibly wet to fully disinfect.
The ones I’m familiar with in a healthcare setting are typically 4-8 minutes but we train cleaning staff for ten minutes. Easy to remember, always effective.
Most people are disinfecting their homes incorrectly by simply doing a spray and wipe. It’s much better than nothing but isn’t effective.
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Born_Inevitable_87552 days ago
+2
It's a strange one. Cuz then sunlight kills it too, which is good for recovering contaminated books and fragiles. [CCOHS](https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/diseases/hantavir.html)
And ig I was reading from the [national forest service ](https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/upload/Hanta-kit-and-fact-sheet-combined-508c-2.pdf) . This is [CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/healthy-pets/rodent-control/clean-up.html) per 2024
So 5-10 minutes, wet clean up method, with any epa recognized disinfectant. That makes more sense.
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IAMA_Plumber-AMA2 days ago
+27
Yup, I was exposed during Covid before a vaccine was available and had to isolate for 14 days, but I never exhibited any symptoms.
But based on how I felt when I was infected after being vaccinated, I probably wouldn't have made it through had I got the infection before I got my shots.
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Strong-Finish53461 day ago
+9
It’s crazy how it just straight up killed people. When I got it, the only thing that distinguished it from a cold was the muscle aches. I never knew my muscles could get so sore that it would keep me up at night.
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IAMA_Plumber-AMA1 day ago
+3
The constant sweating is what did me in, but you're right, the muscle soreness was unbearable. I always felt like I'd lifted a 40 gallon water heater up a flight of stairs the day before just by lying in bed.
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Stennick21 hr ago
+1
See and when I got it all I had was a bad scratchy throat thank god
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ZestyPotatoSoup14 hr ago
+2
I lost taste buds for a few days and had a lingering cough, I was vaxed before getting it though so maybe that helped.
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Curious-Path454912 hr ago
+1
i nearly died of it and i was quite healthy so i always get the shots-it was the weirdest illness-horrible head pain
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sabinscabin2 days ago
+14
but when only 4 exposed? wouldnt the whole cabin have to be exposed? or perhaps theyre only counting those sitting immediately next to infected.
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ntsp002 days ago
+41
Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer is only speaking about the Canadians involved. The flight that the exposure may have happened on was an international flight from Johannesburg to Amsterdam. Keep in mind the statement was "might have been exposed". This is just routine contact tracing.
Edited to add: Over two dozen people disembarked the cruise ship after the first death but before WHO was alerted. At the same time, the wife of the deceased got on the international flight mentioned above before she was asked to deboard for being too sick. She died the next day (confirmed hantavirus positive post-mortem). Again, before WHO was alerted. So expect to see **many** more contact tracing reports like this one.
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Pandor362 days ago
-9
Also i read that the virus is transmitted rodent to human? There was no proof of human to human transmission?
[Conclusions
The balance of the evidence does not support the claim of human-to-human transmission of ANDV. Well-designed cohort and case-control studies that control for co-exposure to rodents are needed to inform public health recommendations.](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9574657/)
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darshfloxington2 days ago
+10
There is limited human to human transmission with this strain, but it’s not that easy to get. So far everyone that was in direct contact with he very sick woman on the flight has tested negative. There is a very small window where it can transfer can it takes pretty direct spit swapping or getting your face coughed on.
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bdjohn062 days ago
+183
No one has been confirmed as infected without being on the ship.
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OilFan922 days ago
-16
I thought a flight attendant has it after a passenger flew home while sick with it. The lady who lost her husband and then died a few days after getting to her home country.
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fatherofraptors2 days ago
+25
She was hospitalized yes, but as of today, WHO says she tested negative.
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[deleted]2 days ago
+2
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Anti-Charm-Quark1 day ago
+2
40 passengers left the ship on April 24 and they all were exposed to the symptomatic wife of the man who died when they flew on the same plane to Johannesburg on April 25
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FinancialSpite2 days ago
+162
That’s the kind of headline that instantly puts people on edge now, especially when it involves flights and cruise ships after everything the last few years taught us.
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Jaew9611 hr ago
+2
*most of us. What the last few years taught *most* of us. A very sizeable portion of the general population learned absolutely nothing, in fact they seem to have gotten dumber.
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mattlui2 days ago
+342
I read that as “self-immolating” and was like “that’s a pretty extreme reaction to the situation”.
But for real though, good on the people with decency for doing the best they can to keep the public safe.
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Financial-Desk-6692 days ago
+70
"I read that as “self-immolating” and was like “that’s a pretty extreme reaction to the situation”."
Insane plot for a pandemic/zombie movie... a dangerous virus spreads and if you test positive the only way to prevent the spread is to set yourself on f****** fire!
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mattlui2 days ago
+9
Fire Force anyone? Latom
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_Not_A_Vampire_2 days ago
+1
It's a great way to keep zombies away from you!
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Spider-Mike232 days ago
+1
Cabin fever? My friend really hated that scene where the girl was shaving her legs and just suddenly had urge start peeling the skin.
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Flimsy-Sprinkles73312 days ago
+42
Ok, so funny story. I worked with a Palestinian man who was having a problem with fleas in his home. As an American, it is normal for us to attempt a pesticide fogging, or bug bomb, on our own before involving professionals. When I suggested that he "just bomb his house," the blood drained from his face and he said to me: "it's not THAT bad!!"
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mattlui2 days ago
+31
Am American
Am familiar with bug bombs
Would have said it
And immediately regretted it.
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Flimsy-Sprinkles73312 days ago
+22
LoL...it was a LONG time ago. We shared a laugh once I explained what I was talking about. No ill will intended and no feelings hurt.
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Extension-Goal49492 days ago
+380
Cant wait for all the patriotic Americans to do the same (when told it’s best for their community/the country)!
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xynith1162 days ago
+120
The silver lining is if we go into quarantine again at least gas prices will go back down. /s
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Adventurous_Sense7502 days ago
+16
And the lead lining is we will b in yet another global pandemic. /s
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Crafty-Confidence9752 days ago
+48
This isn’t Covid - it’s a 40-60% mortality rate. It’s incredibly unlikely for it to turn into a pandemic but if it did? We’re not looking at Covid 2.0 … more like something out of an apocalyptic movie.
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MrMHead2 days ago
+16
Captain Trips
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Crafty-Confidence9752 days ago
+8
Well, at least not this time. They’re just being super cautious because the virus is deadly not because it’s likely to become a pandemic. https://virological.org/t/complete-sequence-of-orthohantavirus-andesense-virus-swiss-resident-2026/1023 sequenced already … so far nothing seems that different from other outbreaks. So not like the spike protein. At least not yet! Fingers crossed…
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meowmeow_now2 days ago
+8
Counterpoint, we have no social safety nets, no mandated sick leave. We can’t reasonable expect people to lose their jobs and be homeless voluntarily.
I work hybrid but I am fortunate to have an employer that encourages wfm over a cold, even “not sure if allergies or a cold”. They are very understanding and accommodating childcare issues arise. If we needed to quarantine I could work, with my child home and Instacart groceries. But, I know I am very privileged in that respect.
We have failed as a society. The social contract is broken (or never was there). We can’t expect people to take care of society by quarantining, if we don’t take care of them during it.
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SpiderSlitScrotums2 days ago
+41
Patriotic Americans would probably host parties where everyone sniffed mouse piss to get “natural immunity”.
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shizzy01 day ago
+7
Come for the ivermectin. Stay for the intubation.
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nerdyblackbird2 days ago
+15
Dude, don’t give them ideas.
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taz_781 day ago
+2
We can only hope.
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Curious-Path454912 hr ago
+1
rfk jr would be thrilled
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Dexion16192 days ago
+33
Kinda hard to do that when it means losing you're Job, House and Car because we have such good workers protections for most folks.
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Flimsy-Sprinkles73312 days ago
-6
Where are you from?
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illHaveWhatHesHaving2 days ago
+19
I’m gonna guess they’re American and that last part had a degree of facetiousness
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Dexion16192 days ago
+9
US. Most people have, at best, 40 hrs of protected sick time. And many don't even have that.
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Flimsy-Sprinkles73312 days ago
-1
I was wondering about his grammar, not his vacation time.
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dcy1232 days ago
+35
The last pandemic was the warning shot, next one will be the kill shot.
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YumYumYellowish2 days ago
+9
Please let it take me this time, I can’t do another round of furloughs, job hunts, financial strain, and 24/7 with my partner.
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BoBSMITHtheBR2 days ago
+36
The other stated reasons are just to cover up for that last reason.
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dcy1232 days ago
+8
Naw we need it to target the ones who spread it. Enough of the rich decided that we wer expendable, when in reality they are.
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Curious-Path454912 hr ago
+1
not looking forward to being spit on by shoppers at work again
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Thakog2 days ago
+11
At least all of our brave ICE agents should have no trouble wearing masks this time around, right?
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shizzy01 day ago
+3
Seriously. Americans will say with great patriotic fervor, “But what about mah freedom?!” as they strap a gun to themselves and head out to the nearest super spreader event.
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whatshamilton2 days ago
+16
The good news is it’s only contagious while symptomatic and for 24 hours. So they wouldn’t be asymptomatic and spreading it like was happening during Covid
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WoolooOfWallStreet2 days ago
+15
The bad news is it can take up to two months for symptoms to show in some cases, so there will be some people who genuinely won’t know where they got it from if it starts spreading
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ntsp002 days ago
+3
Where you got it from isn't important at that point, it's that you don't continue the spread.
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androshalforc12 days ago
+2
They’re self isolating at the bar so they can tell all their friends how ~~idiotic~~ patriotic they are being.
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs2 days ago
-7
Can Canada really throw stones in that aspect? Do we need to be reminded of the gang of truckers that took over a city?
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blarges2 days ago
+14
A small number of idiots protested in Ottawa, a group most of Canadians mock until our throats are sore, a group that was heavily subsidized by American donations. Are we comparing that to entire states deciding COVID was over in 2020 and a president who politicized the pandemic? Are we really doing that?
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs2 days ago
+4
I think enough people to shut down an entire city is more than “a small group”. Most American right wing groups are foreign funded as well. That’s why so many alt right groups are shutting down now that Hungry stopped its propaganda funding. But they’re one of many. There is a global rise of alt right misinformation and authoritarianism. Acting like it’s only a problem in America is just dumb. The US just has the most easily exploited political system.
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AnyoneButDoug2 days ago
+8
The key thing was the trucks, many were just rented from what I remember. Take a crazy parade of fringe protestors but give them each a giant truck and they make their presence felt and can block off traffic.
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[deleted]2 days ago
+3
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs2 days ago
-1
That’s like saying only the people at Jan 6th supported Trump. There are so many more that supported them that weren’t there. The only reason you don’t have a conservative PM right now is because Trump pulled his tariff shit. If you had the same bullshit freedom to f*** over its citizens like individual states do then you’d have the same shit happen. The population percentage of far right voters is just as high as the US. But keep ignoring that fact to get your dunks in.
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blarges2 days ago
+2
Weird how you keep moving the goalposts and not engaging with my words, eh? Oh well…
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs2 days ago
+2
I’m not moving the goal posts. My entire point is the only reason is was worse in America it because of how the US political system is set up and not because they have more far right assholes. Canada and US had equal amount of COVID deniers.
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InfiniteExternals2 days ago
+1
> Canada and US had equal amount of COVID deniers.
Ya no, I work in America and I have zero problem saying Canada does not even have close to the 25% of the U.S that would sacrifice there countrymen in order to say a new outbreak is some kind of Hoax again and miss a chance to push some bullshit for political gain.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/07/24/a-look-at-the-americans-who-believe-there-is-some-truth-to-the-conspiracy-theory-that-covid-19-was-planned/?utm_source=chatgpt.com/
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs2 days ago
+2
They absolutely do. You have no idea how conservative parts of Canada actually are. The problem is between the way congress is set up, gerrymandering, and the electoral college our 25% has way more power than it should
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osmoked2 days ago
-9
But muh liberties
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No_Maintenance_1202 days ago
+181
And 40 Americans self isolating at bars, sporting events, gun shows, etc. probably.
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canuck_112 days ago
+35
The have RFK jr on the case
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kezow1 day ago
+8
He'll force them to swim in sewage canals.
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shizzy01 day ago
+3
“Infect them again.”
“But sir—“
“MOARRRRRRR!!!”
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Mobile-Bar77321 day ago
+1
MAHA - Make America Hanta Again
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Daidis2 days ago
+6
We shipped them to Nebraska apparently. It was nice knowing y'all, signed, a Nebraskan
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Cerberus12522 days ago
+68
I’ve been self isolating for years
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Bryfirefly2 days ago
+19
Thank you for your service
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Alastor32 days ago
+5
i was too, now im more relaxed but this new virus might make me more hermit
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Evening_Entry78302 days ago
+30
That's a long isolation time. People here in the US would just lose their jobs and not be able to pay rent.
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wirez6220 hr ago
+5
Fun fact, that would happen here in Canada too. It’s not a utopia
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Curious-Path454912 hr ago
+1
n95 respirator or i don't go out
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Random_182f25652 days ago
+49
So potentially infected people, took planes?
Potentially infecting thousands?
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darshfloxington2 days ago
+40
They didn’t know the virus was on the boat when they left.
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iforgotmyuserr2 days ago
+5
From what I understand they’re still slowly allowing to get people off and return home. I’d be happy to be proven wrong though
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darshfloxington2 days ago
+18
Now yes. But when the first batch left they didn’t know the passenger that died had contracted hantavirus.
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iforgotmyuserr2 days ago
+15
I know, but they’re still continuing to do it regardless. I don’t think we should be sending potentially infected people home on international flights until the incubation period is up.
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Random_182f25652 days ago
+7
Long incubation virus are truly insidious
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darshfloxington2 days ago
+9
True, but you can’t spread this one during the incubation time. F*** you covid.
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Random_182f25652 days ago
-1
We will see.
(F*** you covid X2)
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darshfloxington2 days ago
+11
Also this is why you shouldn’t go bird watching in a trash dump in an area that can have hantavirus
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Random_182f25652 days ago
+7
Sensible advice
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eastsiderhere2 days ago
+3
A place that any halfway educated person would have taken Level A hazmat protection gear as an absolute must.
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darshfloxington1 day ago
+2
A basic mask would most likely stop the breathing in of rat feces
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sunshine-x2 days ago
+7
Humans seem as good at managing this as my 17 yo has been at not knocking up his girlfriend twice.
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Random_182f25651 day ago
+4
Congratulations grandperson
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sunshine-x1 day ago
+4
Plan B saving our asses over here
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ForVictori2 days ago
+7
Don’t you worry, keyword is “potentially”
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BlueCyann2 days ago
+17
It's not believed to be transmissible in people who have no symptoms yet.
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Random_182f25652 days ago
+12
That's not a wise way of thinking with a virus like this.
But all the world will know in a the next weeks
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[deleted]2 days ago
+23
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Possible_Top27831 day ago
+6
Hantavirus is the disease that killed actor Gene Hackman's wife. She was sick for days and didn't know what was wrong. This disease is very rare and most have never heard of it.
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johnnythemad12 days ago
+20
Depending on their political views. They might not be isolating at all.
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Mikethebest782 days ago
+4
I feel like I saw the first season of this on Netflix about 6 years ago. I didn't like it then either.
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Bunnyhat2 days ago
+10
I'm curious from an American point of view.
Say I got exposed to the hantavirus. I cannot work from home nor can I miss 45 days of work. Would short term disability insurance pay for me to stay at home for that time?
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Possible_Top27831 day ago
+4
Oooh, that's a good question
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Safe_Discount16382 days ago
+3
Surely these people will isolate for a month an a half
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Ar_Ciel1 day ago
+4
Hope they're not infected, that shit sounds horrible.
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Oompa_Lipa1 day ago
+3
If society ever faces a real pandemic with crazy mortality... We are all doomed
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Birbandsnek2 days ago
+3
How does this work if you have a job? Can you get some type of immunity?
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dick_treacherous2 days ago
+5
Here we go again.
Glad I got that bidet a few years ago.
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ClassicHando2 days ago
+9
Don't worry, in will swoop trump, maga, and other related degenerates to turn it from a nuisance into world war h
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phrost19822 days ago
+1
Well, it does have a higher mortality rate than covid...
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cantproveidid2 days ago
+2
Fortunately it's a whole lot less contagious.
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jasonmaska16 hr ago
+2
So, it’s not going well is what you’re saying.
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Ok-Lion16612 days ago
+7
45 days seems like a long time …
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Dragrunarm2 days ago
+36
Up to 2 month incubation before symptoms can develop. So factor in the time already passed since possible exposure and thats roughly 60 days.
edit; eh my specific numbers were off but it works broadly.
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CellistMundane93722 days ago
+6
I'm not sure I understand your math.
These people would have been exposed (if actually exposed) on or before April 25 or 26. Some, I believe, left the cruise ship on the 24th. Others were on a flight with the female Dutch victim. So they've gone at least two weeks since exposure.
Also, 45 days is believed to be the tail end of the incubation period. I suspect, without being sure, the incubation period looks like a bell curve, and that it's rare for incubation to take all 6+ weeks.
So they've probably got another month until they're clear, and in reality, I'm guessing, the risk is extremely low within maybe 2-3 weeks of now.
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Blighton2 days ago
+7
They were Americans. They would immediately go out to a buffet the next day
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2thSprkler2 days ago
+6
I’m sure in American all is safe. Experts are in charge and science research is cutting edge /s
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Cautious-Brother-8382 days ago
+3
Any Americans choosing to self isolate maybe seen as an act of rebellion with this administration.
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008Zulu2 days ago
I can't ask RFK Jr right now, he's off lopping the junk off raccoons again.
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S_K_Y2 days ago
+2
Some of my best friends are Canadians. Respect to them for doing the right thing just in case.
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howdiedoodie662 days ago
+1
Can we just get a win for once?
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VirginiaLuthier2 days ago
-9
I remember when an American nurse was exposed to Ebola she just told them she wasn't going into quarantine, thank you.. ...nothing happened to her
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jsm10312 days ago
+6
She was placed into involuntary quarantine despite NOT having any high-risk exposures and being totally asymptomatic. Ebola is not contagious until symptoms appear, not a fact we know about Andes Hanta yet.
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Kurotaisa2 days ago
-8
Hanta? The one that's transmitted via rat shit???
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ShakeXXX2 days ago
+24
Yes but the Andes strain, person to person, prolonged close contact.
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Kurotaisa2 days ago
+2
I remember as a child, back in my home country, every summer seeing the TV ads about camping in the south, to always make sure to never leave any food uncovered, always zip up the tents, that there were warning signs about long-tailed rats being Hanta carriers.
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UnlikelyReplacement02 days ago
+10
This is a variant that is virally transmitted between humans.
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2thSprkler2 days ago
-14
Only if you’re exposed to an infected persons body fluids for an extended amount of time. Casual contact is not considered transmittable. Infected rodent droppings or urine can be transmitted by air although
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ntsp002 days ago
+11
That's not true at all, where did you even get that from? It's spread person-to-person via droplet transmission and is thought to be primarily contagious when symptoms first begin showing. The whole "Only if you’re exposed to an infected persons body fluids for an extended amount of time" is just flat out wrong.
From the 2018 outbreak:
> Our findings traced the first person-to-person transmission event to a birthday party with approximately 100 guests. The index patient (Patient 1) attended the event for 90 minutes and was reportedly symptomatic at the time, with fever and malaise. **Five persons (Patients 2 through 6) who had been seated close to Patient 1 reported onset of symptoms consistent with ANDV hantavirus pulmonary syndrome between 17 and 24 days after the party (Fig. S3).** Patient 2 was the most likely source for six infections in other persons during the early prodromal phase because of his active social life. Patient 2 died 16 days after symptom onset, and his spouse (Patient 9) was febrile while attending his wake. **An additional 10 persons who attended the wake and were in close contact with Patient 9 became ill between 14 and 40 days after the wake for Patient 2.**
> **An important known risk factor for person-to-person transmission of ANDV is prolonged or close contact with symptomatic persons.**
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2009040
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2thSprkler2 days ago
-6
Your info is from 2020. Viruses mutate.
I read it here:
"Transmission between people has been associated with close and prolonged contact, particularly among household members, intimate partners and people providing medical care," says WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.
[NPR](https://www.npr.org/2026/05/07/nx-s1-5814761/hantavirus-likely-not-the-next-covid)
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ntsp002 days ago
+1
You can't see how your statement of "only" is different than "associated with"?
Edit: Oh no, the person that misquoted their own source blocked me after replying
Anyway
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2thSprkler2 days ago
-6
Jesus Christ. Stop the trolling ffs. You were wrong. Deal with it. Get updated research and you won’t be corrected and won’t have to get your wittle feelings hurt . Awwww wah wah. Go cry to mommy. Your infor was WAY off lol
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BrainEatingAmoeba012 days ago
+8
Haven't been paying attention lately eh? This Hanta is human to human.
...exciting eh?
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Flimsy-Sprinkles73312 days ago
+1
Remember the story of those people who had been traveling at sea during COVID?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/couple-at-sea-for-a-month-reveal-shock-at-scale-of-coronavirus-pandemic
I wish I had a life where I could get away from the news.
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2thSprkler2 days ago
+1
Prolonged contact. Viruses mutate.
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Bleakwind2 days ago
Imagine going to a cruise for rr, get stuck there cos of this shit, go home and get stocked there too…
Cruise ship sales might just crater right now
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Im_Fishtank2 days ago
-14
Jarvis, I need karma.
Dumb Americans, right guys?
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BorntoBomb2 days ago
-2
[https://abcnews.com/International/115-people-sickened-norovirus-outbreak-cruise-ship-cdc/story?id=132788971](https://abcnews.com/International/115-people-sickened-norovirus-outbreak-cruise-ship-cdc/story?id=132788971)
what about this though!! WHAT ABOUT THIS!!!!
WHY NOT THIS!!!!
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BoopingBurrito1 day ago
+2
Noro outbreaks happen on cruise ships with depressing regularity. And Noro doesn't have a 40% mortality rate.
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BorntoBomb1 day ago
-2
NO ITS THE SAME BECAUSE COVID IS THE SAME BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE
/s
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mountaindoom2 days ago
-31
American here. Ain't no job paying me to stay home that long. I'm going to work every one of those days.
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TokesNHoots2 days ago
+24
Just like an american to not quarantine when given orders by doctors. If you gave anyone hanta I’d hope they’d sue your ass
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mountaindoom2 days ago
-20
45 days without working and none of my bills getting paid. Not my fault we have no safety nets for poors here.
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DiscoLew2 days ago
+7
There is an institutionalized “Me First” attitude in the USA. As an outsider, it’s interesting how common it is for Americans to not give a f*** about their neighbour and be proud of it. I guess that’s why “socialism” is such a dirty word / concept there. Kinda explains how / why they would elect a person like Trump to be their head of state….
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mountaindoom2 days ago
-6
I'm not proud of it, I'm just crunched.
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IndigoRuby2 days ago
+10
You didn't have to say you were American. We could tell.
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