7 people in the U.S. sickened by E. coli linked to cheese made from raw milk, FDA says

This administration seems to revel in ways to kill off its own citizens

A few people potentially dying from raw milk is just the price we pay to eat healthy things, like roadkill and brain worms, enjoy diseases eradicated in most of the industrialized world, and take advice from someone who snorted cocaine off toilet seats.

Based on how the last one didn't do shit to Boar's Head for forever, it's hard to believe this one will be even worse. I mean it will be way worse. It's just hard to believe. 

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Every person in this country should know how to read

I've been considering picking this one up.

…yes…that system. The people who want safety are replaceable and that happened. Now we have a lunatic who thinks raw is good. Cogs are useless for an E. coli outbreak when the company can refuse — after the Jack in the Box publicity this is insane.

Funny how conservatives are not about conserving anything.

Tuberculosis as well. The new antivax movement is going to lead to polio cases in the next 10 years. Make sure you have sympathy for the children that get it, make sure the parents know that it was preventable.

Fecal bacteria = Umami

Funny thing about terroir, sometimes cows shit on it.

“Guano bowls. Collect the whole set.”

"Our *two* chief weapons ..."

There are plenty of famous name brand cheese makers in the UK that use raw milk, and because of the increased risk, those creameries have to follow a far stricter legal framework. Typically all the milk has to come from a single highly controlled source rather than multiple creameries which often results in raw cheese manufacturers owning their own large herd of cows. Every single one of those cows has to be vet checked at regular intervals, so they typically have a vet on contract. The milk has to be processed immediately after milking which doesn't allow time for cultures of pathogens such as E. Coli to develop. And the cheese making processes further inhibit the development of harmful bacteria such as being slowly warmed in such a way that the bacteria you actually want in cheese consume the lactose and output lactic acid in amounts that's harmful to E. Coli. And every step of the way during that process, there's a man in a lab coat employed solely to follow a government mandated Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point plan where they take samples to test for harmful bacteria, right from the milk coming straight from the cow to the cheese being packaged for sale, as well as testing every piece of equipment they use.

What if I _like_ poop in my milk.

Some vitamins, but they've been replacing those for decades, and some probiotics, which can be substituted for by products from a *properly-controlled* ... brewery? What does one call a facility that specializes in yogurt or buttermilk?

It actually strengthens your immune system by exposing you to loads of horrific pathogens (if you survive)

It's because of our scale. Almost all of our food filters into and out of just a small handful of major agricultural corporations. Even independent "family farms" now tend to just be megafarms selling their produce into the same logistical processing system. One farm becomes a problem and it ruins the entire lot. You almost never get outbreaks from "farm to table" farms because their scale is so small and doesn't involve shipping produce across states or long storage.

It’s somewhat difficult to compare food hygiene between different countries - different standards, different regimes and different methodologies are involved. That being said the raw numbers of food poisoning cases would appear to suggest that Europe and the U.K. have a significantly lower incidence per person than the U.S. appears to have. And that was even before the current Trump administration - god knows how bad it is now.

\*clink\* - ....Uh-oh.

Also, I think the dairy industry is regulated pretty strictly in general in the EU. If the milk is tested for E. coli, Listeria, etc., from the get-go, there won't be contamination of the cheese.

Tell her that humans don't rub their t*** in shit before feeding their babies, but cows do.

🤦‍♂️ Sorry your mom is stupid. my mom was probably dumber so dont take it too hard.

Two out of his three vaccinated older siblings also caught measles, but he's the only one that is practically paralyzed right now with brain swelling. It's almost like the vaccine saved the siblings from severe consequences.

The article you posted doesn't actually mention raw milk as the cause at all. > “The sharp increase in the number of human cases in outbreaks associated with the consumption of ‘milk and milk products’ in 2023 compared to 2022 was mainly due to one very large strong-evidence outbreak caused by norovirus reported by Germany,” an EFSA spokesperson told us. > ... > The data is therefore not indicative of health and safety discrepancies in the supply chain. “No specific conclusion regarding food safety practices and foodborne disease prevention can be drawn based on the observed sharp increase in the cases/hospitalizations in 2023,” the EFSA spokesperson confirmed. Sounds pretty safe to me. Hypothetically, even if every case was linked to raw cheese, out of all MILLIONS of people that eat cheese in the EU, 858 cases is a totally acceptable number. I'm not defending the non-existent pseudoscience health benefits of drinking raw milk, but lots of traditional cheeses NEEDS to be made with it. I'll happily eat brie, gruyère, or english cheddar. Totally worth the risk.