Domestic disturbance that spread over 3 locations with 10 shot? Damn, what a horrific situation for those kids
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DidYouSeeBriansHat3 days ago
+5136
Why was it all kids? I’d understand if it was one location where a bunch of kids had gathered, but all kids from three locations is crazy.
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Drain_Surgeon693 days ago
+8081
Family Annihilator.
Domestic Abusers lash out and try to punish their victim by taking away the thing that matters most.
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Not_Cleaver3 days ago
+3082
They also think that their families cannot function without them.
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trowawaid3 days ago
+2557
Or rather, they don’t *want* them to…
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MangaMaven2 days ago
+1687
"If their lives improve after I leave, they'll think that I was the problem. 😭😭😭
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TheVyrox2 days ago
+340
god forbid
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UndeadDog2 days ago
+300
All of this is so fucked up. RIP to everyone involved.
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NotReallyThatWrong2 days ago
+113
Poor thing
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DecadentLife2 days ago
+314
Yes, that is the more accurate statement. (I worked in child welfare and child psych for years)
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cchap222 days ago
+139
Alot of times it's due to their own massive failures and not wanting their families to live the embarrassment. So sad and fked
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poorlilwitchgirl2 days ago
+297
Leave it to a narcissist to think that being ashamed of a parent is worse than being murdered by them.
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Emarshall262 days ago
+1249
My abuser has this thought process. He drew his gun on me once and I laughed in his face and said shoot me because one of us will survive jail and it's not you sweet cheeks.
But hes really desperate now. So im waiting for a call from the county clerks office tomorrow AM for an R.O to try and protect myself. I may have to scrub my ID too because he has my social security #.
Fun times.
Still kicking ass at work, and finally free after 7 years of on again off again torture.
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Xerathedark2 days ago
+840
DO NOT TRUST AN RO!!!!! Get pepper spray and a gun. Keep at least one on you at all times and don’t let him approach you. If he tries to, pull that spray out and get his ass.
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DatabaseThis96372 days ago
+275
I left the area and hid out. Then I got an RO, and they were kicked out, and police helped when they wouldn't leave...
But an RO means absolutely nothing to an abuser, unless they wanted a reason to leave you alone.
Protect yourself. If you don't know how to use a gun, then either get instruction, or don't get a gun. there are many things to consider... Get pepper spray. Learn what your rights are, and ask for help...
EDIT to add: AMMENDMENT: I was speaking from my personal experience, and as a commenter pointed out, RO's can help. Please see their comment below. Buckeye25osu
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YourGlacier2 days ago
+119
Yeah ROs mean nothing. My father had a detailed blog where he stalked me in one. He wrote all these vague things like “upon eating my normal McDonalds breakfast I heard a laugh. I did a double take. It was her. She looked ok though no where as good as before, her mother is allowing her to dress in a way she should not.” Then he’d put lines like “sadly o had to leave to honor the restraining order which is most cruel.”
And since it was written like that all they did was tell him to knock it off as he denied doing it intentionally. He kept arguing how I seemed to run into him actually. I’m sure I could’ve made more of a scene but I was 17 so I script kiddied his blog down after the police didn’t do anything beyond warn him to leave sooner if he sees me in a location.
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WriteBrainedJR2 days ago
+134
>Yeah ROs mean nothing
At trial, they're pretty strong evidence of self-defense
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Nattie_Cake2 days ago
+58
This comment is underrated. I see what you're saying.✊
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DontAcceptLimits2 days ago
+24
Hahah, 'script kiddied'. That one takes me back. Thanks for reminding me of that term! 😂
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Bigbambino612 days ago
+13
What does that mean? I've never heard of that.
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Boxtosat2 days ago
+27
I'm so sorry to hear that. my dad stalked me through my debit card transactions to figure out where i roughly was in town, and also figured out where i worked to make himself involved with my boss at the time.
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MissSassifras19772 days ago
+96
*Get **Bear Spray** and a gun.
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Peligineyes2 days ago
+136
FYI Bear spray is watered down pepper spray that shoots farther, it's not extra strength pepper spray that will hurt your attacker more. Regular pepper spray can cause permanent damage to bears.
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DefinitelynotDanger2 days ago
+51
And bear spray will extra gas you out if you use it indoors
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robaroo2 days ago
+237
Arm yourself please. ROs don’t do shit.
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Emarshall262 days ago
+148
I am in FL. I work 50 hours a week, and am commuting 15. He doesnt know where i live currently. My job will trespass him if he comes on property and when I get time and some extra money I fully intend on getting a small hand gun.
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Pfyxoeous2 days ago
+553
Former cop here.
If you DO get a gun, you absolutely MUST BE WILLING TO USE IT. If you doubt you can pull the trigger, you'd be significantly more likely to survive the encounter without it.
Statistics show that when a woman pulls a gun on a man and he calls her bluff, he takes it away from her and beats her to death and/or shoots her with it.
There's still a lot of caveman in us.
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ianthrax2 days ago
+195
This is the most important thing about carrying a handgun. Thanks for saying it.
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MicrotracS35002 days ago
+163
Yes, so many people pull a gun with the mindset of "I just want to scare them" or "I just want them to back off". When you pull a gun on someone, it's now a life or death situation. Pulling out a gun should only happen if you are 100% ready and willing to kill someone, as in there needs to be less than one second between showing the gun and pulling the trigger, or else it will be you.
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depressedandindebt232 days ago
+201
Former Victim Advocate.
People are so skeptical when I cite this. This topic comes up frequently when discussing safety planning with DV victims and in teaching self- defense. Hesitation kills.
Also, people overestimate their ability to use the gun. We'd all like to think of ourselves as the "hero" in a dangerous situation but actually pulling the trigger on another human is not an easy decision for the majority of people. You can go to a shooting range all day every day but an unstable, moving person is not a paper target.
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0tterr2 days ago
+98
Thanks for your time as an advocate. Mine saved my life after a game of “ one person with a gun, one nonconsensual player” russian r*******. He genuinely had no idea if there were any bullets in or not. He tried me first, himself second. I “won” and the prize was permanent brain damage and facial scarring from the beating prior. His family was big in local law enforcement and after 4 hours of scans and stitches at the hospital when I got to local pd the only reason they didn’t arrest me for his death was the advocate finally showing up. They solely cited gsr on my hand (when I said even after he pulled the trigger on Me I tried to wrestle it away from his as he pulled the trigger). No doubt in my mind I would have ever been able to make it without her. Don’t care if you did it for 10 days or 10 years just wanted to share my thanks for weight you took on to help others.
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Unicorn1872 days ago
+9
Training is vital to help overcome this. The more training the better. I don't just mean some basic safety course, "this is the trigger, this is where the bullet comes out, don't point it was anyone you're not willing to kill, etc." I mean at least a few day courses. I don't mean just going to the range and shooting targets either. I mean actual, practical training on how to defend yourself and end another human being's life if they present a threat to yours or another innocent person.
This applies not just to guns, but anything that could be a lethal weapon, knives, and sticks as well. It's training the mindset more than the tool used. Whether it's a Glock or a "weapon of opportunity," like the knife in the kitchen or the shovel you're using for gardening right then.
It's said in the military and now in law enforcement that you train as you fight... because you'll fight as you trained. And that you don't rise to the occasion, you fall back to your training. So if there's no training programmed into your head you fall back to whatever is there. With enough training, you can act almost on autopilot. The if/then sequence goes much more quickly. Threat to life or limb? if yes shoot, of not don't shoot.
It also means getting therapy as soon as possible afterwards to help with any potential PTS and PTSD.
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slade512 days ago
+43
My Taekwondo dojo had many women come through looking to take self defense classes. When they would ask what’s the best combination to use against an attacker, the instructor would tell them “scream and run!”
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Few-Level2 days ago
+35
THIS ^ is a brutal reminder: kill or be killed, and always aim for the biggest target or the head. I know someone who served in the military and was robbed while on leave at home. He shot the thief in the leg or somewhere similar, but then the thief managed to shoot him in the head. Dead. This man even knew better and had the training. He had been in the war in Iraq/Afghanistan. It turned out he actually knew the guy—it was his neighbor, high on meth.
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zzappthewitch2 days ago
+54
There's a website that publishes the name, political party, and physical address of all registered voters in Florida, I think you have to file special paperwork to block them from doing so. Please look into this before you update your voting information.
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Unicorn1872 days ago
+21
Washington is similar. If you register to vote, anyone can find your address and I don't think there is a way to block it.
If you've been a victim of DV (or current spouse and children) though, there is a process where you can use the governor's mansion as your address on your license and registration, so it will come back to that that.
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pwninobrien2 days ago
+77
It's stupid easy to find out where people live. I would get cracking on that concealed carry.
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jdjackson02042 days ago
+44
No concealed carry perm even needed in FL anymore… 😎
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Drain_Surgeon692 days ago
+63
Buy a gun, master its use, and mag dump into his chest if he comes knockin.
RO’s don’t do f*** all and cops are useless. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Emarshall262 days ago
+15
Thank you friend, I appreciate this sentiment.
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spleeble3 days ago
+346
The fact that we have a word for that is so dark.
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Drain_Surgeon693 days ago
+209
It’s genuinely one of those crimes that I have a hard time wrapping my head around.
What has to go wrong psychologically that killing children, especially your own children, is the solution you get too? I just cannot imagine that.
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elvaqueroloco2 days ago
+78
Close friend of mine and neighbor -- several years ago -- her husband killed her, each of their 3 children, then himself.
Wrongly thought she was cheating.
Already dealing with combat PTSD.
Classic "if I can't have you, no one well." paranoia.
I stood outside the police barrier in front of the house in disbelief.
An ex-LEO contact got word to me via text.
"They're all gone."
I collapsed on the sidewalk in tears.
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thatissomeBS2 days ago
+11
We had a similar situation in my hometown back in like 2004. I didn't know the family super well, I know a son and daughter were maybe 8th and 10th grade, and I think there was a 3rd, younger kid (but I can't remember for sure). I guess I don't remember the actual reason but there are only so many reasons for one of them to do this.
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funlovingfirerabbit2 days ago
+11
I'm so sorry.
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theflyingratgirl3 days ago
+125
I always thought it was abhorrent, but then I had kids and it’s even more unfathomable.
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ProlapseMishap3 days ago
+114
Wasn't sure where you were going with that for a second... I was relieved to get to the end of your statement lol.
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VOOLUL2 days ago
+37
It's hard to wrap your head around if you think of it as them seeking a solution. I think the reality is more of them using it as a punishment to those that have hurt them. It's not meant to solve anything, just hurt someone else more. A type of one-upmanship.
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moon-chu892 days ago
+34
I think it's how some narcissists cope with failure and loss of control when they know they can't manipulate things to go their way anymore.
I had a former step dad who admitted to having thought about doing this after he lost his job at the bank. He said it seemed like the only option at the time. Then he said he saw an army recruitment office on the way home and stopped there instead and signed up.
He always used to make fun of me and called me a hypochondriac because I was always sick (turned out to be a bad heart valve). He had no empathy and felt no concern for my actual health.
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shizzy03 days ago
+86
I imagine you have to think of your wife and kids as property. I personally would rather die than hurt my kids. Let me push them from the path of a bus and take the hot in their stead. If I go psychotic, let me be my first and only victim.
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scourge_bites2 days ago
+26
I think family annihilators usually have a long history of controlling behavior and abuse within the home. Usually what makes them snap is something that makes them feel out of control: a kid moving out for college, a divorce being initiated, losing their job, etc.
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blizzard363 days ago
+96
And yet not dark enough that we are willing to accept them as a separate style of crime. The stats for Mass Killings are specifically set so that the standard Family Annihilation Murder-Suicide counts. This makes clear that this is something much worse than a more run of the mill crime of passion-murder suicide that will generally spare the kids.
But people who study mass attacks (like me) hate that this ends up grouping these in with our data and making it harder to parse, because they are clearly a very different thing than what everyone is thinking about when discussing mass attacks. They should really be acknowledged as their own separate thing.
But I don't think most people can accept that this sort of terrible crime could ever be in any way "normal" enough to be clearly defined and tracked. People can much more easily wrap their head around someone eventually deciding they just want to try kill everyone than they could ever accept someone deciding to just kill all their family specifically.
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throw201908202020203 days ago
+74
The fact that they’re grouped together just seems like another indication of law enforcement / society viewing harm against women and children as “just a domestic”
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in_animate_objects2 days ago
+42
I saw a stat that said there has been a new case of family annihilator violence every 5 days since 2020
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2023/07/13/family-annihilation-investigation-domestic-violence-murder-suicide/69937389007/#:~:text=The%20characteristics%20and%20prevalence%20of,The%20death%20toll:%20754.
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NothaBanga3 days ago
+435
Or the religious family annihilator spin; "We will unite in the next life but first I have to send you there."
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MadMaticus3 days ago
+34
That’s so dangerous.
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GeomonLover2 days ago
+12
Not to compare tragedies or anything, I do think this is one of the worst family annihilators ive ever seen though. How demented do you need to be to not only kill your kids in your home, but then proceed to drive to 2 other locations to make sure you got them all? Like the one location is bad enough, but its just a whole extra level of awful that he went out of his way to go to find his other kids to kill them all. Normally its only 1 location in family annihilators…its just a whole extra level of depraved
12
osuisok3 days ago
+669
Police confirmed that some of the kids were his own. I imagine trying to hurt the children’s mother and the other kids were also family.
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aftergaylaughter3 days ago
+33
sounds likely. i have a similar story in my extended family, though thankfully he didn't go on a killing spree with everyone else's kids too like this guy did. his wife finally left his abusive ass, so he decided to get his revenge by kidnapping their kids and killing them and himself in a really horrific way, all to punish her for leaving him and keep her from having her way.
obviously we know nothing about this guy yet except that he's an adult male, depraved enough to kill his own children *and* other people's, but it seems like he'll fit into a similar profile.
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Apart_Dentist91963 days ago
+67
I saw a report that used the word "descendants" were some his grandkids too? Like this guy went after his kids and their families?
Or did they just mean his kids? Maybe with multiple mothers.
Horrific either way, I'm just wondering what the dynamics are.
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randynumbergenerator3 days ago
+184
I will never understand this impulse. Whatever dispute you have with a partner, leave the kids out of it. (Ideally, don't engage in violence against your partner/ex either.)
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BoringMcWindbag3 days ago
+351
Of course you don’t understand this impulse, you have a normally functioning brain. Can’t apply logic to someone illogical.
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GoldandBlue3 days ago
+91
The "logic" they have is the family is their property. I would bet big money this was an abusive relationship and she was trying to leave. *oh you think you can leave me, you can just walk away. Well try walking away without the kids. This is your fault. You made me do this. If you just knew your place, this would never have happened*.
Thats the mentality of these sick fucks. He didn't "kill his kids", he is punishing her.
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Powerful_Potato78292 days ago
+13
Exactly 💯. Those sick bastards
13
animalloverforlife222 days ago
+9
It’s sick. To take your own kids life because your mad at thier mother
9
willybestbuy863 days ago
+55
Exactly this normal people don't commit these actions that's why it's hard to come to terms with
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SmooK_LV3 days ago
+30
I am reading a book that was reflecting on mental health institution patients. A good way of thinking (as a psychiatrist) is that they are not illogical, they have logic of their own, logic of feelings mostly but once you bring yourself in the individual's logic realm, you too can find cause and reason for their actions. And thus, can try to help them get better.
Your statement is still correct, I am not refuting it, I am just adding to it, that abnormally functioning brain still has understandable cause and effect. This man probably will be tried as a full criminal, understandably, but no healthy, normal person murders, all of the murder cases aside from self defense are mental unwellness cases.
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similarbutopposite3 days ago
+970
8 kids and 2 adults died. But I do agree with you, the fact that most of these victims were children is wild. It seems like the killer might have been targeting the children specifically.
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pancakedemon33 days ago
+180
This article doesn’t say two adults died. Just that 10 total people were shot and 8 children died.
180
o_lilac423 days ago
+155
just saw in a local news report that two adult women were shot, one with life threatening injuries (allegedly shot in the head). 💔
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Coriolanuscangetit3 days ago
+29
The suspect died
29
Wyden_long3 days ago
+1046
>“No way to prevent this.”
- Only nation this happens in
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ciaomain3 days ago
+606
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.
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cchesters3 days ago
+176
If only those children were armed to defend themselves.......
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Chicken_Chaser_4203 days ago
+358
"Counting or not counting gang violence?" *Neck squirts*
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SierraXIII3 days ago
+317
I’m not saying I support what happened to him, he himself supported it. “Acceptable amount of gun deaths” was his own position and it’s just beautiful that he was able to support his ideals to the end, becoming himself what he so dearly loved. Just gorgeous.
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JehutysErectCockpit3 days ago
+151
And I don't assign a moral difference between executions and assassinations.
He advocated making children watch public executions to teach them not to act like the person executed, which I see as no different from having children watch public assassinations to teach them to not act like the person assassinated.
So he absolutely advocated for what happened.
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Badloss3 days ago
+119
He advocated that there was an acceptable number of school shooting deaths, and as someone that works in a school it's hard to not take that personally
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phluidity3 days ago
+87
See, I agree that there is an acceptable number of school shooting deaths. Zero. That number is zero.
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Normal_Community17543 days ago
+24
I don’t even work in a school and I take that personally.
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JehutysErectCockpit3 days ago
+25
That too, but specifically the execution part really gets me. That he framed it as an initiation that would deter children from criminal activity and lead to a lower crime rate.
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ProfessionalFlan31593 days ago
+10
It's makes me infuriated that there are school staff that support TPUSA and starting chapters knowing that CK advocated that. Absolutely infuriating
10
_Burning_Star_IV_3 days ago
+120
One of the most ironic deaths can think of in recent memory.
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Agitated_Ad_58223 days ago
+17
I read that some of them were his descendants.
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meowmeow_now3 days ago
+56
Article said 10 people shot total so two adults were shot somehow.
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collarboner13 days ago
+17
The authorities are asking the public for any photos or other evidence that could help per the article (along with local and state investigators present), so the scope of the investigation must be immense. It may take awhile before too much definitive becomes available. Poor kids
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gracecee2 days ago
+249
This was someone who wanted to hurt the mom. I hate these annihilators. It's part of the reason why immconflicted about just the person doing suicide and just leaving the rest of the people alone. You don't have to take all those people with you.
When I was 12 my 22 year old cousin was gun down by an ex boyfriend. I've never forgotten and have been always pushing my boys hey if someone dumps you its okay. Celebrate that relationship
And the life span of that and make that an opportunity to find someone new and different. Or vide versa make sure the person you may potential date is okay. Nornobsessive or co-dependent.
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TraditionalSong90792 days ago
+146
I work in family law. We’ve had a few (abusive) opposing parties kill themselves (mostly after our attorneys have made it clear that they’ve done this dance before, they’re going to win for our (victim) clients). I always say “I’m just glad they didn’t take anybody with them” because they are 100% the type to kill our clients/the children (one had literally gotten jail time for attempted murder of our client in front of the kids).
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littlepup262 days ago
+42
My abusive father killed himself less than 2 years after my mom finally left him and I think about this often. I'm so glad he didn't take us with him.
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rosysredrhinoceros2 days ago
+50
It read to me like he shot the kids at two locations and then the third was the one where he ultimately was killed by the police.
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loslednprg3 days ago
+277
"Everything is fine", most US politicians
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ShimReturns3 days ago
+513
"It's a mental health issue not a gun issue so don't touch gun laws but we're also not going to do anything about mental health"
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ak47workaccnt3 days ago
+205
Also, the military needs another 100 trillion dollars.
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Deruji3 days ago
+50
Or they’ll be really sad.
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No_Replacement43042 days ago
+17
And Palantir will go broke.
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_Lucille_2 days ago
+21
Lots of countries have mental health issues but only the country that prides itself with the best healthcare ends up having so many mass shooting events that the public is numb about it.
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raspymorten3 days ago
+47
"What? Do something about mental health? *What do you think we are? Some sort of fruity DEI woke bluehaired people????*"
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Rounder0573 days ago
+1938
SHREVEPORT, La. (AP) — A gunman in Louisiana killed eight children in domestic-related shootings at different homes early Sunday, said Shreveport police chief Wayne Smith.
The victims ranged in age from one to about 14 years old, Smith said. A total of 10 were people shot.
The gunman later died after a chase with officers who fired at the suspect, Smith said.
The suspect stole a car while leaving the scene of the shootings and was followed by police, according to Smith.
Officials said they were still gathering details about the crime scene, which extended across three locations. Some of the children shot were related to the suspect, Smith said.
“This is an extensive scene unlike anything most of us have ever seen,” Smith said.
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ChardComfortable39323 days ago
+860
Rest in SHIT. Good riddance. Utterly horrific. Cannot imagine how you could do something to innocent young children. Awful.
860
InBetweenSeen2 days ago
+423
I wish he didn't die and had to face other people after what he did.
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TheGuri422 days ago
+256
True death by cop is way too easy a way out
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bypopulardemand2 days ago
+59
at the very least, atleast the court system can’t fail here, he will never see the light of day again
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sadboybrigade2 days ago
+45
Sometimes I feel this way, but on the other hand, I really doubt that someone who's capable of doing this would be capable of feeling remorse if he survived. He was clearly able to justify it to himself while doing it so I've no doubt he'd continue justifying it to himself after. In which case I do think it's better that he's dead.
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ShortBusBully2 days ago
+46
Yea, he stole justice away from those families too. That coward like many many before him ran away like a little b**** and died. Moments like this can infuriate us all.
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jdubzakilla2 days ago
+10
There is no such thing as justice. Him in jail does not bring the kids back.
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Scrimshawmud2 days ago
+15
I wish people like this did not have access to firearms.
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JimJimmerson12 days ago
+138
This guy deserves far worse than his fate.
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simple_champ2 days ago
+13
It's not often that I hope that hell is real, but this is one of those times. An eternity of pain and torture would be a good start for this guy.
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FarceMultiplier3 days ago
+470
"Unlike anything most of us have ever seen", meaning that some of them HAVE seen events like this. F***.
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ginger_whiskers3 days ago
+124
Decent chance some of the responders were former military, and some of those had seen some shit.
Of course with the prevalence of such events here, it could well have been a former survivor or people who *have* worked similar scenes
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FadedDanny22 days ago
+31
I imagine seeing small children and infants ripped apart by bullets is utterly horrific to see. The article specifically says ages *ONE* to fifteen. That's not something you can unsee.
First responders deserve a lot of respect and empathy.
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JJfromNJ3 days ago
+182
It's possible none of them have ever seen it and the dude just didn't phrase it the right way. It's common enough especially under emotional circumstances.
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TheMoves3 days ago
+3796
>Authorities say eight children were killed in a domestic disturbance in Lousiana.
>The shooting occurred around 6 a.m. on Sunday in Shreveport, according to Police Chief Wayne Smith. The victims ranging in age from one to about 14 years old.
>He said a total of 10 people shot.
>Officials said they were still gathering details about the crime scene, which extended across three locations.
Crazy, some kind of family thing?
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RealWord57343 days ago
+2147
"Some of the children shot were related to the suspect, Smith said."
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papalovesmama2 days ago
+225
Article updated. 7 of the 8 kids were his.
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DecadentLife2 days ago
+127
If there were three scenes to process, it sounds to me like he hunted his children.
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above_average_magic2 days ago
+150
It's says they found a dead child on the roof and another went up and jumped off, escaped and survived
WHAT THE F***
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LordVoldemoore2 days ago
+47
That’s so traumatic for all of them omg ☹️☹️☹️ some people don’t deserve to be able to have children, what a monster
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1Dive1Breath2 days ago
+41
Oh man, that poor kid... F***, my heart hurts for them.
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mintbasilmoth3 days ago
+1159
I wouldn't be surprised if half/step siblings were caught up in this. So incredibly tragic.
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Environmental-Car4813 days ago
+460
Or cousins
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eeyore1343 days ago
+260
Or worse, if it was a sleepover.
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briggsy1113883 days ago
+146
Just as bad, but I see your point
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BeneficialChemist8742 days ago
+68
Not worse, equally as bad.
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One-Confidence-42082 days ago
+49
I believe 7 of the 8 children were the shooter's kids. I believe the 2 adults were women. I live only a half hour from where this tragedy occured.
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PsyckoInferno2 days ago
+28
Title says 7 of his own children. This world is truly awful.
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human_nature853 days ago
+211
Domestic violence is prevalent here in Shreveport. There's been several shootings in the past few years. One guy didn't even shoot his girlfriend. He beat her to death over 18 hours and then pretended she fell or something and lost consciousness. Called the girl's mom to help get her into the car for the hospital. The girl's name was Heaven Weed and the man had been in jail for assualting other partners. There's so many others.
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digitalime2 days ago
+151
If he was assaulting other partners he should have been in prison longer.
Domestic violence almost always escalates. It’s really easy to not attack a significant other. So when the law gives these men a slap on the wrist, it just creates more risk for the partners and children. Any pattern of domestic abuse needs to be taken seriously from the beginning.
There are so many others, its like a repeat. We are failing women and children in this country.
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human_nature852 days ago
+67
He should have but it's a pattern around here. They go to jail, get out, do it again, go to jail, get out, and it repeats until someone is seriously injured or dead.
Not to mention, services for families around here are lacking. There's no easy access to mental health support or anything that could help. It's very limited.
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lucky_ducker3 days ago
+379
Such perpetrators are called "family annihilators." Something triggers them to kill their partner / ex partner and their children.
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mooncrane6063 days ago
+290
It's the loss of control that triggers them
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One_Potential_67682 days ago
+90
Yes, “if i can’t have them no one else can either.”
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koalakalamity2 days ago
+13
He and his wife were separating... They were due in court on monday
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ucsbaway2 days ago
+7
You have to be absolutely fucked in the head to do this. Completely mentally ill. It’s sickening.
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meowmeow_now3 days ago
+820
It’s probably some angry loser man who’s wife left him, shot all his kids in his house, then went to her relatives house and started shooting there.
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madogvelkor3 days ago
+146
Yeah, that seems most likely. Or possibly one location was a birthday party while the other was to finish off the rest of the family.
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Hedgehogahog3 days ago
+66
Normally sure, but the disturbance was at 6am, so it would’ve had to be a slumber party.
Could also have been ahead of some event, though. Like a first Communion, that would bring regional family together for the weekend.
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thesteveurkel3 days ago
+116
kids birthday party? that hurts my heart. the mental health situation in america is beyond despair. we all hate each other, and ourselves, and the billionaires puppeteering our news, social media, and government are delighting in it. they don't want us learning to communicate beyond violence. my heart breaks for all families who lost loved ones here, and for the innocents who had their lives taken too soon. goddamn.
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have-u-met-teds-mom3 days ago
+1197
This guy posted a pic of him taking his daughter out for a lunch date like he was dad of the year, right before he killed her and her siblings.
Peace be with these mothers!
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KingAltair22552 days ago
+383
>Seven children were killed inside the second house, and one was found dead on the roof after apparently trying to escape, Bordelon said.
Man, this entire story is f****** heartbreaking. Poor babies.
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Radiant_Efficiency732 days ago
+93
And the kid that survived jumped off the same roof to minor injuries and safety. Just an awful story
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bcastro122 days ago
+36
I can’t imagine the trauma this child will have… So tragic
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Ranulf_52 days ago
+21
This poor kid will likely have some crazy survivor’s guilt
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_MooFreaky_2 days ago
+86
I wish I hadn't f****** read it. I actually feel physically sick right now.
Those poor kids. I need to go and hug my boys.
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-Kalos2 days ago
+39
So close, yet so far. That poor kid
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Tyrrox3 days ago
+553
According to another article, the suspect is dead after a carjacking and some of the children were his "descendants". Absolutely despicable
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-shreveport-mass-shooting-rcna340868
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Fsharp7sharp93 days ago
+2062
If things at home are so bad that you’re considering wiping out an entire family, *just f****** leave instead.*
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Helpfulcloning3 days ago
+166
Family annilators don't want to leave through proper means, they know that exists. They either are very angry at the (usually wife) other partner leaving or very angry that they ever got married in the first place and wish to take it out on their partner.
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onegumas3 days ago
+608
Extended suicide is the best started from yourself.
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weary_dreamer3 days ago
+35
pretty sure the ones doing the shooting are the people that didint want to be left and wanted to stop others from leaving, or at least punish the other person for thinking they can leave.
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finnjakefionnacake3 days ago
+341
you can say suicide.
also it's a nice sentiment, and i wish people did that instead of mass shootings, but their goal isn't just to take themselves out, it's to inflict pain on a bunch of people they misguidedly consider responsible for the problem, or to send a message. the people who want to commit suicide without hurting anyone else already do it.
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foundinwonderland3 days ago
+231
And to exert power and control. Family annihilators are, above all, just like other abusers in that they feel the absolute right to exhert their will over the autonomy of their victims, just taken to the most extreme. It’s not that they’re suicidal and want to die. They want to make the ultimate power trip — controlling whether their family lives or dies. The suicide is just a way to escape consequences, not an indicator of major depression or general suicidal ideation. Just another way for them to show power and control.
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MightB2rue2 days ago
+62
Such a great way of putting it. The suicide is the final “f*** you I can do whatever I want”. It’s not some plea for help. These are psychopaths and sociopaths. Let’s not compare them to people that are in extreme pain and have zero desire to hurt anyone else.
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rebeccanotbecca3 days ago
+86
They want to inflict pain so they hurt as many people as they can. It comes down to being entitled and selfish for the perpetrator.
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shinyplantbox3 days ago
+28
He wanted to punish his ex. Suicide was secondary.
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VelvetDreamers3 days ago
+332
This must be the work of a family annihilator; 8 children are dead in a domestic setting so we can surmise some of the children must be his own.
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chele683 days ago
+93
*SHREVEPORT, La.* (*AP*) — *A gunman in Louisiana killed eight children in domestic-related shootings at different homes early Sunday, police in Shreveport said*.
*The victims ranged in age from one to about 14 years old, said Shreveport police spokesperson Chris Bordelon. A total of 10 were people shot*.
*The gunman later died after a chase with officers who fired at the suspect, Bordelon said*.
*The suspect stole a car while leaving the scene of the shootings and was followed by police, according to Bordelon.*
*Officials said they were still gathering details about the crime scene*, **which extended across three locations. Some of the children shot were related to the suspect**, *Bordelon said*.
eta: From a different article: *Police did not share any information about the suspect, but Bordelon said some of the children in the homes* “**were his descendants**.”
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OgthaChristie3 days ago
+115
It doesn’t tell y’all that the area it happened in is Cedar Grove, which is a predominantly low income, older, black neighborhood which does add some context. We live in Shreveport and 8 dead kids is just awful.
Also, I just learned that the shooter’s mother’s house is on fire in Cedar Grove right now, so this whole situation is escalating.
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fedswatching21212 days ago
+50
Bruh how the f*** you gonna look a child in their eyes and tell yourself that you have to shoot them. Rest in peace to the children. They couldnt even defend themselves
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Evil_Sharkey2 days ago
+30
People who do this don’t love their children. They may think they do, but it’s a superficial, selfish love, like the love one has for their favorite food.
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_Vaparetia2 days ago
+51
Had a prior gun problem in 2019 according to the article…. Pretty sure we need actual accountability and not just releasing and ignoring people who commit crimes.
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OlDirtyJesus2 days ago
+42
gun offenses should be 1 and done.
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Great_Hambino20223 days ago
+727
These people need to just start offing themselves and leave the innocent people alone
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TheVintageJane3 days ago
+988
They aren’t committing suicide in this scenario in the traditional sense. They are committing one final act of absolute control/abuse then killing themselves because they’ve lost the ability to abuse anymore and don’t want to go to jail and possibly be subject to abuse themselves
It’s part of the reason I wish we’d stop saying this is “murder-suicide” because it’s not. It’s domestic homicide, an escalation of domestic abuse, where the perpetrator maintains control by killing themselves after killing their family members.
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AP_in_Indy3 days ago
+144
This is so hurtful but I also think true
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UglyMcFugly3 days ago
+93
Perfectly put, thank you. The phrase murder-suicide in family annihilation cases always bothered me but I couldn't put my finger on why...
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TundieRice2 days ago
+18
I do understand the difference in implication and motivation in situations like this and traditionally-recognized suicides that are due to depression and stressors in life, but the term “murder-suicide” isn’t incorrect in this case at all.
“Suicide” simply means a person ending their own life intentionally, the motivation and mental health situation of a person doesn’t really factor into the wording (although obviously the person in this case was very mentally ill, even if not mentally depressed.)
Again, I do understand what you’re all getting at, I just think everyone is focusing too much on how the word “suicide” makes you *feel* versus what it actually *means.*
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greenappletw2 days ago
+17
Yes exactly. That's why I wish people would stop framing it as a men's mental health issue as well. As if the lifelong abuser only needed a hug and someone to listen to him.
An abuser who does not want to change will not change.
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Sea_M_Pea2 days ago
+46
“Seven children were killed inside the second house, and one was found dead on the roof after apparently trying to escape, Bordelon said.”
If that’s not nightmare fuel, I’m not sure what is
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o_lilac423 days ago
+73
this is so horrific. those poor sweet children. 💔
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regular_john20173 days ago
+1296
F****** horrible. People will forget about this in a day.
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GreenStoneRidge3 days ago
+1505
We killed 140 kids in Iran and all we talk about is gas prices. The world is f****** sick
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IPissExcellentThrows3 days ago
+207
People bring that up all the time even though it's been over a month (as they should). This will legit barely be mentioned by people outside Louisiana after a few days except in the context of listing mass murders that have happened.
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Genghiz0073 days ago
+105
These poor kids that got their lives extinguished so prematurely. Their families!
A horrifying tragedy.
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unbuttered_bread3 days ago
+61
seeing one digit numbers for ages around stuff like this is just f****** soul crushing
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ptbogolf3 days ago
+36
The f***? This is sickening.
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vaemarrr2 days ago
+12
I cannot imagine how disturbing the scene would be for investigators and authorities.
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peva33 days ago
+87
Jesus Christ..... Wtf.
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_Azuki_2 days ago
+9
I genuinely cant understand how can someone be so fucked up in the head
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2HDFloppyDisk3 days ago
+51
That’s enough news for me today. Jfc
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+60
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occono2 days ago
+19
The weight of the news with existing issues like this on top of the trump regime, I give my courage to Americans having to read it every day. Not that isn't heavy for me but it's always at a distance from another country. You all need to hug each a lot.
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Shafter1113 days ago
+31
>> It was the nation’s deadliest mass shooting in more than two years.
It says it all.
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cxd322 days ago
+10
yeah, the forgotten olden ages of more than two years ago, who would remember what happened in 2024...
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Kirannalynne3 days ago
+18
I'm sorry, but if you can make three specific stops on your shooting spree, that is a fundamental failure of local law enforcement emergency response times.
Everywhere I've ever lived in this country, the first sound of gunfire has cops on the area like a fly on shit in less than 5 minutes, and guns aren't exactly rare here.
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ExpiredExasperation3 days ago
+9
So f****** sad in so many ways.
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adam1107852 days ago
+9
We're all slowly going mad in this country, by design. How horrible. Hug your kids.
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PigglyWigglyDeluxe2 days ago
+20
I can’t wait until we do nothing about this and see the next one
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claisen333 days ago
+443
Well, as the late Charlie Kirk would say, it’s just the price society has to pay for freedom. I’m sure he’s looking up at us now smiling with satisfaction.
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Zealousideal-Swing442 days ago
+15
For fucks sake, why can’t America put some money into their own country, help these mentally unwell people
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CheesyMcBreazy2 days ago
+8
Sorry, best we can do is 8 billion to israel
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o_Marvelous3 days ago
+7
What a damn tragedy my soul hurts for these kids
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Exact_Patience_97673 days ago
+174
Louisiana is trying so hard to steal the crown from the cracked-out, hot mess that is Florida. Your federal government doesn't even care, so why should the local ones, too.
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VanessaAlexis3 days ago
+64
I'm born and raised FL. We only get so much flack because *everything* is public record in FL. Everything. You can look anything up from official government websites. So it's super easy to look up cases from there.
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WhatamItodonowhuh3 days ago
+34
I mean, as a fellow Floridian that isn't the ONLY reason. We do some zany shit to make the highlight reel.
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holyhellsteve3 days ago
+17
You mean like the guy who bit off his brother’s d*** after he walked in on him having sex with his cousin on his favorite Dragon Ball Z blanket? Personally I think that’s just a normal everyday thing and totally not a Florida thing.
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VanessaAlexis3 days ago
+10
It was his favorite DBZ blanket!
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Scary_Firefighter1813 days ago
+229
It happened in Shreveport, too.
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson's own district. Not that he cares, of course. Not when he can go around being Trump's servant and be obsessed with stopping gay marriage.
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PhourKuhfiveSicks3 days ago
+92
Ending gay marriage won't make you straight, Mike
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drunkerbrawler3 days ago
+39
It far surpasses Florida, it just doesn’t have the same level of transparency laws that allow us to get a good look of what’s going on in Florida.
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