An 85 year old widow of a US military veteran being locked in immigration detention for over two weeks is the kind of story that makes America look genuinely cruel to the rest of the world.
You can support border security and still recognise theres something deeply wrong with treating elderly people like dangerous criminals over paperwork issues. The image of children crying in detention while an 85 year old woman sleeps in a crowded dorm is not exactly screaming freedom and dignity.
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Zapdo0dlz1 day ago
+533
I just recently read about a woman who was in jail in alabama for abusing drugs while pregnant- endangering the baby. , being told off for wetting herself when her water broke and left to give birth on the floor. Other inmates got the baby to start breathing. Guards punished them for helping and told them they should have shoved the baby back in.
Keep in mind that she was in jail because she was endangering her baby, and this was how they treated her while pregnant. She still has nightmares that they both died.
This is not just immigration, it is a system wide issue that dehumanises any kind of prisoner.
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smittyleafs1 day ago
+373
Okay, so this story sounds made up. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-jail-lawsuit-pregnant-inmate-birth-rcna343634 and...its not. A deputy working at the time apparently corroboratea the account. So...yeah, what the hell.
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Zapdo0dlz1 day ago
+146
Yeah its insane.
These guards of these immigration detention centers, prisons, jails… just monsters. And then they go home and kiss their spouse on the mouth and pat their kid on the head and talk to grandma.
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LegendaryTamer23 hr ago
+56
Willing to bet folding money that they think of themselves as “good Christians” also
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justagenericname21322 hr ago
+18
I mean they go to church every Sunday and buy their trump bibles, so of course they are good.
Actually I wonder if the trump Bible changes the bit about worshipping a golden idol, cause that story is a bit on the nose
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MysteriousSyrup621018 hr ago
+10
Pretty sure they are into all kinds of domestic violence, not kissing/patting. But I know how you meant it.
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ClintBruno1 day ago
+63
While we're on horrors beyond belief.....They boiled a man to death in a Dade county jail.
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Zapdo0dlz1 day ago
+38
Omg the shower. And the people responsible did not get charged with murder.
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Snarfbuckle12 hr ago
+2
Jesus, no wonder people leave the US and tourists do not want to visit.
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Spinoza421 day ago
+8
That is unbelievable. What a country.
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Coolbluegatoradeyumm1 day ago
+4
“Only the best people”
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poopoofol21 hr ago
+45
I was an EMT in a town that had a county lockup, and treated a woman who was miscarrying in the holding cell. The guard told us she "wouldn't stop having her period all over us even though we told her to hold it." She had nothing except for toilet paper available to her for hygiene. I made her a makeshift pad out of gauze for the ride, and the guard almost didn't let her use it until I screamed at him (for which I almost got fired). A decade later it still makes me furious.
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Zapdo0dlz21 hr ago
+24
oh my god.
The idea that she should be able to hold her blood in?? Shes literally MISCARRYING!
Thank you for screaming at him. F*** him and whoever thought it was a fireable offence to not rip that guy a new a******.
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ChicagoAuPair23 hr ago
+24
It’s always been about weak men controlling and punishing women.
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zad3701 day ago
+4
Just look at comments on bodycam videos on youtube, especially when the officer shows patience and gives ample time to offenders to avoid making an arrest.
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RolliFingers1 day ago
+90
We do more than *look* cruel, unfortunately.
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VariationDry1 day ago
+33
Cruelty is now the American way.
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Zombie_Cool1 day ago
+29
"Now? Should we ask the Native Americans how long they've been enduring "American hospitality"?
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bawng1 day ago
+57
Yeah. European countries have actually issued travel warnings to the US because of the risk of bad treatment by authorities.
Usually travel advisories are about environmental hazards or criminal gangs or wars, etc.
Most of the harshest authoritarian countries around the world are less likely to treat tourists bad than the US.
Or at least that's the perception it gives off.
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maxdragonxiii1 day ago
+14
even us Canadians and its those who are the whitest people ever seen, are afraid of going to the USA because of how they treat you is entirely random and nonsense and if you get deported to a random country, no one will find you.
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Particular-Ice46151 day ago
+90
Reminder Obama admin deported more people than Trump has in both terms, and it didn't require sending goon squads into cities to ask for people's papers and, dragging people into camps without due process, and denying prisoners water, and medication, while beating up and shooting civilians protesting.
It was literally done mostly through the courts and issuing warrants for arrest and deportations and targeted mostly violent criminals and immigration fraud.
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Fit-Let81751 day ago
+41
One difference is that Obama did this in a reasonable and respectful manner. Not showy. Trump makes this about him: a show of his rule and strength.
It was never to make America great again. It was always, and still is, to make TRUMP great and ONLY him. And I doubt that the Presidency will satisfy him.
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Evil_Hank_Scorpio1 day ago
+8
But Obama was brown. He was very very bad man. /s
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breadandbunny1 day ago
+7
I sincerely hope the rest of the world does not trust us ever again.
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kinglouie49321 hr ago
+5
Elderly, children, adults, everyone deserves to be treated humanely.
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Stray_Neutrino1 day ago
+3
You say “cruel”, I say “idiotic”.
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VariationDry1 day ago
+15
Idiots support the cruelty.
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Guilty_Cattle_51651 day ago
+137
Ah. The stepsons had a hand in this. Probably screwed her out of inheritance, too.
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sprintercourse1 day ago
+119
One stepson is a former Alabama state trooper who “now works for a federal agency.”
Things that make you go “hmm.”
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FaerieKnotz22 hr ago
+61
He "contacted a colleague to request that his stepmom be detained, Calhoun County Probate Judge Shirley Millwood wrote in a court order.
The request came after Bill's death when Tony and his brother Gary Ross were trying to take control of their late father's estate, the filing said.
The estate consisted of Bill's modest $172,000 home, roughly $1,500 in cash and about $10,000 in personal property, including his Mercedes-Benz C300 and a truck.
Marie-Therese told Tony and Gary, a US Coast Guard veteran, that she did not want her late husband's assets, and only wanted enough money to return to her France to be with her children, the judge wrote.
But a dispute quickly arose, with Tony and Gary having taken both of Bill's vehicles from the property the day after his death, according to the documents.
Roughly a week later after the brothers tried to force their stepmother to turn Bill's phone over to them, Millwood wrote.
Tony and Gary then had the water, electricity and internet at the home turned off.
They also had all of the mail rerouted from the residence, which included notices from immigration services that were sent to Marie-Therese, the judge said."\*
He did this to an 86 year old widow, and she can only speak of the babies inside the Louisiana immigrant detention centers. the difference in their priorities is astounding.
\* from Daily Mail
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monogramchecklist22 hr ago
+21
I hope they both lose everything. What awful people.
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Guilty_Cattle_516520 hr ago
+7
Worse than I thought.
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thebarkbarkwoof13 hr ago
+1
It goes to show what a POS one must be to join ICE at this point.
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Zapdo0dlz1 day ago
+38
They “transformed” after he died. I dont doubt it. Death really brings the worst out of families.
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BlackStarBlues1 day ago
+23
Mrs. Ross should be receiving her husband's Social Security benefits. So now I guess she's not.
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bpetersonlaw22 hr ago
+8
I believe they were only married for a few months. Probably needed longer to qualify for benefits
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Guilty_Cattle_516520 hr ago
+2
One year.
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MadRaymer21 hr ago
+11
Yep, article says the sons rerouted her mail, leading their stepmother to miss an immigration-related appointment.
Also says that one of the sons is a former Alabama State Trooper who now works as a federal employee, so the whole thing stinks. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they intentionally sent ICE after this old woman because of the estate dispute.
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Fantastic_Acadian21 hr ago
+9
If her husband was a Trump supporter as she said, pretty sure the acorns fell close to that tree. Little rat bastards.
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MilkImpressive14601 day ago
+89
And Trump is wondering why nobody wants to attend the FIFA World Cup! 🤣🤣 This administration did everything to determine people to even consider visiting the "Divided States of America!"
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galaapplehound1 day ago
+40
Honestly I'm glad. I don't anyone to attend the f****** thing; f*** FIFA and f*** us. I didn't vote for the Trashman but there were enough people that abstained or did vote for him that we deserve it.
I only hope that the lack of immortality technology frees us sooner rather than later. It won't fix a damned thing but maybe it will collapse the far right's power structure.
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InstructionPurple9111 day ago
+15
There are enough conservative minded people across the globe who support what America is doing.
Granted, they think these immigration detentions won't apply to them because they internally wear red hats, but either way.
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Xanikk99920 hr ago
+6
Any normal person living here should be extremely ashamed the way this government is acting towards other groups and foreigners. The abuse this woman received is horrific and the vitriol aimed at immigrants is just the tip of the iceberg. It reflects badly on us and quite honestly I can't blame anyone for having very negative perceptions of the U.S now. If you are an American like me and have any sense of dignity or shame you should be outraged. I sure as hell am.
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vipzon22 hr ago
-2
This happened in 2024..
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DestructicusDawn1 day ago
+73
# ’’There’s babies in this jail.″
F*** this evil country.
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AudibleNod1 day ago
+72
>Ross had entered the U.S. to start a new life with William B. Ross, a retired U.S. soldier she had met when he was stationed in France in the 1950s and she was a secretary at NATO.
Oh, there's here problem. She worked at NATO. [Trump hates NATO.](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/04/23/trump-attacks-against-nato-allies-painful-says-former-nato-chief)
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Lalocal4life1 day ago
+35
When the riot police in tactical gear knocked a centenarian to the ground and stepped over him as blood ran from his head...You knew.
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ClintBruno1 day ago
+8
Just conservative things
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Fit-Let81751 day ago
+44
In the comments following the article, one person said: "...she was doing something illegal... end of conversation." This mentality is how it starts.
If you review the circumstances, this was not something done intentionally, but through circumstance, which could easily have been rectified with a tiny bit of grace.
When law refuses mercy, then fascism gains strength. Germany learned this the hard way. So could we.
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Zapdo0dlz23 hr ago
+32
I saw that comment and my blood boiled.
Immigration is a nightmare. The incompetence and lack of a shred of understanding for people is just insane. Yet when they screw up it’s still somehow on you!
My mom has been a citizen for YEARS. I went to her ceremony. This year she got a reminder about getting Real ID- and it stated “as you are a non-citizen, here are the documents you should bring….”
The way we ALL showed up to the dmv with her just in case. “Oh idk must be a typo” they said.
Tell that to ICE 💀
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ReganH221 day ago
+31
After reading that her husband was a Trump supporter and her and her husband used to watch Fox news together, she just seems like another "I never thought it would happen to me" types.
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vipzon22 hr ago
-24
She was detained in 2024
So does that mean Biden admin targeted her because of that?
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No_Garden_146621 hr ago
+11
What? Did you even read this? She was arrested and detained last month
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Septopuss71 day ago
+6
I'd love to read the article but the website is a glitchy piece of shit
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FartyFartsMD23 hr ago
+7
This lady and her dead husband were tRump supporters. She really thought that made her a special exception.
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prenderg22 hr ago
+10
Please don’t get me wrong, I hate how Trump is enforcing the immigration laws. But, when that enforcement affects a white European, the media calls it out like it is a tragedy that is worse and different-in-kind from the far greater number of identical enforcement overreachs against brown, black, and yellow peoples from beyond Europe.
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NapoleonBlownapart91 day ago
+28
This lady was a proud magchudette until it affected her personally, as is tradition. Turns out vice-signaling to magchuds didn’t work for Madam. My tiny violin is not playing a song for her.
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BlackStarBlues1 day ago
+17
To be fair it sounds like the husband was MAGA and "groomed" his bride.
>Her experience changed the way she sees the United States and its immigration policies, Ross said. Her husband was a Trump supporter and they used to watch Fox News together. But she was shocked to learn firsthand how immigrants are treated inside immigration facilities.
She used to view the U.S. as a “country of freedom, where people are not arrested based on how they look, and where those who are detained are treated fairly and with respect.” But the women she met did not deserve to be detained, she said. “Their only fault was to be South American.”
As she recovers in France, Ross still thinks about them: “When I left this jail in Louisiana, I told them that if I ever had the chance to speak about them, I would do it, to help them.”
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dorkofthepolisci1 day ago
+26
I’m not sure groomed is the right word here: they were both adults when they married, and it doesn’t sound like she was particularly sheltered.
If she’s really gone from believing that France should have similar policies to understanding how dehumanizing and wrong they are, fantastic.
But decent people are able to grasp that concept without having to experience it themselves
She absolutely got screwed over by her stepsons and in an ideal world they’d be charged with something,
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palcatraz1 day ago
+11
None of that screams grooming. That just sounds like the very common conservative ‘if it doesn’t affect me, it doesn’t concern me’.
If she had been paying attention to what people have been saying for the last few decades, none of what she ‘discovered’ in detention would’ve come as a surprise. People have been talking about this for ages. It shouldn’t be a shock to anyone.
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BlackStarBlues1 day ago
-4
That's why i used quotation marks in my comment to indicate grooming adjacent. She ought to have known better growing up in post Vichy France. Instead she went along with the prevailing narrative of her surroundings in Alabama. If the husband had been an ardent defender of Civil Rights for minorities, she likely would have been fine with that too.
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palcatraz23 hr ago
+5
But it isn't even grooming adjacent.
First of all, you cannot just assume she knew better. France still had a lot of racist folks post Vichy too.
Secondly, grooming (or even something adjacent) implies concentrated effort on the husband's part to change her views. Which wouldn't be true if either she already shared his views before the marriage, or if she changed her views on her own accord.
Calling this grooming, without any indication that there was pressure from another person, just gets to close to absolving this person from her pretty rancid views.
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BlackStarBlues23 hr ago
-3
My goodness. Why on earth are you arguing semantics with me for like you've got nothing better to do with your time? Agree to disagree and enjoy the rest of your day.
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motaboat20 hr ago
+5
Details I am going to include from the early news stories. The widow stated to some reporter that she wanted nothing from the estate and all she wanted was to return to France. Meanwhile, the step children had offered her some amount of money (I think it was $10,000), which she rejected. This money would have be sufficient to "return" to France if she were sincere in this statement, so clearly she had some additional financial expectations that she did not share with that reporter. Meanwhile, she overstayed her Visa, missed her hearing, and "somehow" ICE learned of her and we know the rest.
As for being a veteran's widow, yes she was, but she was only a wife of a veteran for 10 months when she was already 84 after moving here from France (wedding April 2025 - death Jan 2026). I think AP News is milking the term in this case.
Not taking sides here, and the step kids sound like shits. But I get annoyed news articles pick and choose the details they publicize.
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MsMoreCowbell82820 hr ago
+5
Her stepson, a state trooper turned her in to ICE when there was an estate dispute when his father died. He denies it but sure did get rid of her, huh.
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ClintBruno1 day ago
+10
Conservatives are sick f****** people
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RLewis88881 day ago
+5
Just look at those beady eyes. You know she's plotting to murder school children and steal millions in food stamps.
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jethroguardian1 day ago
+9
Well she did support those who are doing that.
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Fomdoo1 day ago
+8
The fact that it takes an old white lady to see how fucked up the treatment of everyone they take is f****** crazy.
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SierraXIII1 day ago
+4
Brown people have been saying for it years, black people decades, whites live in a different country than everyone else and it’s very open and blatant that the US is an apartheid country.
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versus_gravity23 hr ago
+1
And now her late husband's ghost has some rotten souls to haunt! Everybody needs a pastime.
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Nemodin22 hr ago
+1
I cant really say what I think since I would be banned. I read the article and the only thing that came to mind is that anyone that joined ICE is a f****** pig. I really hope this shit comes back in their lives, when they are wiser and have families, and they get royaly fucked.
US, land of the Shame.
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Corprusmeat_Hunk22 hr ago
+1
Can Donald Trump microwave a burrito so hot that even he couldn’t get it down in one swallow?
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gnanny021 day ago
+1
Clearly got rid of another of the worst of the worst. I personally feel much safer having her gone.
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Ok_Sentence_576723 hr ago
+1
America is a deeply rotten amoral and evil country. We have been taken over by moral degenerates who call themselves christians but they truly lack any of the empathy and compassion that Jesus taught. They are wholly evil and cannot be negotiated with
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Full-Check725823 hr ago
+1
Trump is a vile piece of shit.
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vipzon22 hr ago
-8
**Citizenship and Status Timeline**
• **Citizenship:** She is a **French citizen**. She has never been a U.S. citizen.
• **Arrival in U.S.:** She moved to the United States in **1982** with her husband.
• **Legal Status History:** \* She initially entered the U.S. on a **B-2 (Tourist) Visa**.
• She lived in the U.S. for approximately **42 years** (from 1982 until her detention in early 2024).
• During much of this time, she lived as an "undocumented" immigrant after her original visa terms expired.
**Visa Overstay and Legal Issues**
• **Period of Overstay:** While the exact date her original B-2 visa expired is not specified in public reports, she was effectively in overstay status for several decades.
• **Previous Legal Action:** In **1997**, a federal immigration judge ordered her to be deported. However, that order was not executed at the time, and she remained in the country.
• **Reporting Requirements:** Prior to her 2024 detention, she had been under "orders of supervision." This meant ICE was aware of her presence but allowed her to remain in the community provided she checked in regularly with immigration officials.
**Date of Detention:** She was taken into custody on **January 23, 2024**, during a routine check-in with ICE in New Orleans.
1997 - Bill Clinton
2024 - Joe Biden
Bottom line - this has nothing to do with presidency. It’s all bout rules and enforcement.
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heyheyhey2721 hr ago
+10
"Hey ChatGPT, please write some extremely stupid shit that helps me justify immigrant concentration camps"
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