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brickyardjimmy Apr 3, 2026 +78

Canada has a big southern border problem.

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Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +19

We’re living above an insane crackhead

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AnticPosition Apr 3, 2026 +7

Build a wall!

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TeeDotHerder Apr 3, 2026 +99

So using the USA's logic, Canada can now bomb the country and overthrow the dictator since they are sending drugs across the border? Cool.

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Toginator Apr 3, 2026 +17

Canada will be welcomed as liberators. / Le Canada sera accueilli en libérateur.

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Bangkok_Dave Apr 3, 2026 +1

Will the Canadian Prime Minister pardon the drug smuggler if he gives him a few million dollars?

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VanCityPhotoNewbie Apr 3, 2026 +19

Well...most drugs come from the south.....logistically it makes sense for cocaine to come from USA to Canada.

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Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +13

98% of the guns used in crime also make their way up from the south. The other 2% can’t be accurately traced to their origin

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ghaj56 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Wow they are a horrible neighbor

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Ellusive1 Apr 3, 2026 +1

They’re the methhead that lives in the apartment below

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drunk_haile_selassie Apr 3, 2026 +10

I would be surprised if less than 95% of drugs in Canada came from the US.

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Outlaw_Josie_Snails Apr 3, 2026 +5

Canada has become the number one supplier of pure Metheapetinme to New Zealand. International gangs, including Mexican cartels, have been increasingly using the Port of Vancouver as a launching point for shipments of methamphetamine. RCMP have dismantled 11 meth labs across Canada, including a bust in 2024 that dismantled the largest most sophisticated lab in Canadian history, linked to a Mexican cartel. https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2025/10/16/mexican-cartels-listed-as-terrorist-groups-using-canada-as-transhipment-point-for-drug-trafficking-rcmp/ ---- Between 2018 and 2023, Canadian law enforcement dismantled 40 sites where evidence of illegal fentanyl production was present. https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/trnsprnc/brfng-mtrls/prlmntry-bndrs/20250402/52-en.aspx

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Suspicious_Tell_7854 Apr 3, 2026 -5

Cocaine? Sure. Fentanyl? Not a chance. The majority of fentanyl in major cities in Canada is produced domestically. Criminals know getting busted running a fentanyl lab in the US = automatic life sentence and there’s much higher chance of getting caught with them having much better intel than we do up north.

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drunk_haile_selassie Apr 3, 2026 +10

Any evidence of that? It's exactly what Trump said and I'm generally inclined to believe everything he says is a lie. Also, there's mountains of evidence that says that long prison sentences don't reduce crime. Why would this be different?

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Suspicious_Tell_7854 Apr 3, 2026 -9

Your problem is thinking every single thing he says is a lie, which is literally DTS. It’s just not true, and you don’t have to like the guy either, I also don’t like everything he says. Look at fentanyl prices in America. They have plummeted. Also, why do you think it’s always been cartels bringing fentanyl pills up from Mexico into America? It’s also fact that America has much better intel on busting large scale criminals than Canada is. And do you honestly think international criminals and orgs are lining up to start fentanyl labs in America? Obviously not. Everyone know Canada is lax on crime, including international crime orgs and criminals.

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drunk_haile_selassie Apr 3, 2026 +3

I think international criminal organisations move fentanyl from Mexico to Canada through the US because any other situation would be much more expensive. I'm happy to be proven wrong but you are the one making an outrageous claim. The burden of proof is in you. My claim is common sense.

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Suspicious_Tell_7854 Apr 3, 2026 -4

If you want to find anything out there’s plenty of info out there. What I am saying is the vast majority of fentanyl in Canada is illicitly produced domestically. Canadian authorities have stated many times on record that a significant portion of fentanyl seized in Canada appears to be produced domestically, imported aspect being the precursor chemicals that come from abroad. It’s also a fact that organized crime groups in Canada are known to operate synthetic drug labs, that’s no secret and I know that you know that

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026 +1

You are correct fentanyl is made domestically in Canada. It’s also made domestically in the US. Same with crank. Cartels figured out they could give various organized crime groups instructions and precursors/ingredients so they could make it themselves to spec rather than smuggling the finished product across borders. The price of both meth and Fent plummeted as a result because production and transport costs were decimated. To imply that the organized crime does not operate in the US to the same level as Canada is absurd based on population density alone. 10x more people, 10x more criminals.

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Shamelesspromote Apr 3, 2026 +1

Its so crazy that you support Trump still even though you know he's a piece of shit. Just on the cusp of figuring it out but stuck out of reality and you can tell from "thinking every single thing he says is a lie, which is literally DTS." Nobody that is against Trump uses DTS only his followers. No way anyone can have a good faith argument with someone who is apart of a cult of personality, let alone someone who has no facts to post and instead rely heavily on emotions. So close, yet so far away.

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Adept-Donut-4229 Apr 3, 2026 +4

Is funny, because in my province, cocaine seizes you!

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UFOdealer Apr 3, 2026 +14

We should force the US to appoint a Cocaine “Czar” now, and threaten to tariff the shit out of them until they become the 11th province.

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Aznkyd Apr 3, 2026 +4

I assume this is from Montana until Alberta?

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ah_no_wah Apr 3, 2026 +23

Yes, from Tony Montana.

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rinseandrepeatagain Apr 3, 2026

Bravo

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VanbyRiveronbucket Apr 3, 2026 +3

It’s Jrs. He meant to send it to the *Cabana*, and some how wrote *Canada*

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wejustdontknowdude Apr 3, 2026 +2

Good thing we’re building a wall at our southern border!

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commentman10 Apr 3, 2026 +2

I heard a wall does wonders! And make them pay for it!

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RayTDaIio Apr 3, 2026 +1

Good. The human and environmental toll of cocaine is terrible. Dont claim to be an environmentalist or complain about your country killing people overseas if you do coke, because these are things you directly contribute to when you buy an 8-ball. Every gram that crosses the border is paid in blood. Are Cartels not infamously violent? Or does it not matter to you because coke is fun and it’s brown people being skinned alive and hung from overpasses so you can party? Search for the Funky Town video if you want to see what the cocaine trade involves. (Don’t.)

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026 +2

You can apply supply chain guilt to several industries. Avocados? Blood. Bananas? Blood. Limes? Blood. Coca Cola? Blood. Oil? Blood. Instead of applying an aesthetic quality to your morality, develop policy to undermine the black market. If western countries developed a framework to legalize, tax, and regulate party drugs and used the revenue to fund social services it would be a net positive. However, drugs like fent, meth, and crack have no value and should always remain illegal and heavily enforced.

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RayTDaIio Apr 3, 2026 +1

That doesn’t make those things great either. Avocados, bananas, limes, Coca Cola, and oil are not illegal commodities. While yes there is human suffering in these supply lines, there are regulations and laws. You can come back to me with this argument when the majority of the country agrees to legalize cocaine. Your argument is an aesthetic argument. The reality is that the cocaine trade is incredibly lucrative and illegal which makes it particularly deadly, and demand drives supply. The more coke you snort, the more people die. It is a much more immediate and visceral violence and comparing it to something like the banana trade is specious. Total deaths in 2025 for the banana trade is in the low hundreds and indirect. Total deaths related to cocaine was 40,000-60,000. “Both sides” arguments are useful if you want to feel good about yourself and justify real harm. I wouldn’t have a problem with drug use if the human toll weren’t so severe, so no, it’s not really an aesthetic moral argument on my behalf.

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026

Hate to break it to you, the drug with the most aggregate negative impact on human health is alcohol. The harm cocaine causes to society is because it is illegal. If those supply chains were state run, taxed, and regulated it wouldn’t be nearly as bloody and organized crime profits would be decimated.

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RayTDaIio Apr 3, 2026

Cocaine IS illegal. So all the “if” arguments are not relevant. We’re talking about real-world consequences, real lives, not hypotheticals.

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026

Prohibition clearly doesn’t work to curb demand given the current illegal status of drugs. It didn’t work with alcohol in the prohibition era. Why not treat cocaine and other recreational substances that have objectively less impact on the human body the same as alcohol? If the argument that cocaine is a societal negative because illegality makes the production and supply chains ultra violent, then perhaps another approach is needed. Demand clearly isn’t dropping.

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RayTDaIio Apr 3, 2026 +1

Alcohol can be made with sugar, water, a sock, and some time. Cocaine requires very specific ingredients. It is a multi-stage toxic chemical refining process. Coca leaves only grow well in a few very specific regions of the world. They are not the same. “Prohibition doesn’t work” is a lazy argument. How are people going to make cocaine without Coca leaves and knowledge of pre-cursors and industrial labs? Everybody has access to sugar and water. Prohibition doesn’t work for alcohol, sure no argument there, and that’s why alcohol is not illegal.

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026

It requires high humidity, altitude, and iron rich soil, all conditions that can be replicated outside of South America. Surely the American war machine could sort out the cartels running the show in short order if they wanted to control production in order for legal, regulated, taxed distribution. The political will simply isn’t there. Prohibition _doesn’t_ work. If it did cocaine and every other illegal drug wouldn’t be an ever-growing multi billion dollar industry. You’re a businessman, quite a successful one apparently. You know that supply *always* meets demand.

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RayTDaIio Apr 3, 2026

Here’s an AI summary on why it can’t just grow anywhere. Not to mention the issue of processing and refining that you skipped over. While altitude, humidity, and iron-rich soil are the "big three" requirements, the coca plant (Erythroxylum coca) is notoriously finicky. It requires a very specific ecological "sweet spot" that is surprisingly rare globally. Even if you have the right soil and altitude, a dozen other physiological and climatic barriers prevent it from thriving outside its native range. 1. The Missing Factors (The "Hidden" Requirements) Beyond altitude and iron, there are several strict biological constraints: • UV Exposure & Photoperiod: Coca is an equatorial plant. It requires roughly 12 hours of consistent daylight year-round. It is extremely sensitive to seasonal shifts in day length found in non-tropical regions. • Temperature Stability: It thrives in a narrow band between 14°C and 27°C (57°F–80°F). While mature plants can survive a brief chill, a single frost (0°C) will usually kill the plant. This rules out many "high altitude" locations in temperate zones (like the Rockies or the Alps). • Specific Acidity (pH): It doesn't just need iron; it needs highly acidic soil, typically with a pH between 4.5 and 6.0. If the soil is too "sweet" (alkaline), the plant cannot synthesize the alkaloids (cocaine) that it uses as a natural insect repellent. • The "Amazon Moisture" Paradox: The plant needs high humidity but superb drainage. It often grows on steep 45-degree mountain slopes where heavy tropical rains wash over the roots but never sit still. In flat areas with high humidity, "root rot" kills the plant almost instantly. The only other regions it could possible grow are Java, Cameroon & Nigeria, Sri Lanka/Southern India, and Madagascar. I’m sure the time and energy would be better spent trying to improve life in other ways beyond making cocaine legally available. If supply ALWAYS meets demand, explain the current oil crisis away.

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026 +1

My guy. We put men on the moon. The Chinese have developed passive greenhouses that can grow most things in any climate. If the main argument here is that cartel-run supply chains for illegal drugs are ultra-violent, and demand for those illegal drugs is showing no sign of dropping, then what’s the argument for not legalizing, taxing, and regulating those substances past puritanical morality? You want alcohol also made illegal, but we can look at how bloody the prohibition era was when the mafia and other organized crime groups were in control of production and distribution during that time. Have this discussion in good faith - is it better organized crime reap all those profits, or should it be the state who could then use the revenue to better society? I’m willing to bet the US could fund universal healthcare without touching a single taxpayer dollar if it ditched its current policy.

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SadZealot Apr 3, 2026 +3

The only people I've ever known to do coke in Alberta were oil field workers who wanted to still pass drug tests. The overlap of environmentalist and cocaine user can't be that big

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soscbjoalmsdbdbq Apr 3, 2026 +5

I mean if you are in the western us theres alot lol

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fishscaleSF5 Apr 3, 2026 +1

Apparently you don’t know anyone in the service industry.

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BigAlcapone65 Apr 3, 2026 +1

It's almost to the point where the cocaine has become as expensive as the coffee now 😉

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Concentrateman Apr 3, 2026

What about all the fentanyl we are supposedly exporting to America? /s

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2026 +1

“Fresh produce” 💀 bro was delivering organic Colombian snow instead 🥶🚛 Customs be like: sir why do your tomatoes smell like a Netflix crime documentary?

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RoleTall2025 Apr 3, 2026 +1

not cool. give it back

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cantproveidid Apr 3, 2026 +1

Those Montanans, calves the size of cantaloupes. Maybe the smugglers were from Iowa. We should ask former Representative Steve King.

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darth_voidptr Apr 3, 2026

So where did the other 13kg go? What kind of monster ships 87kg of cocaine!

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cantproveidid Apr 3, 2026 +2

Tariff.

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n1gr3d0 Apr 3, 2026 -1

I've read all the top-level comments and there is no "50 kilograms of cocaine" thread. That's a first.

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87 kilograms of cocaine seized at Alberta's busiest border crossing | CBC News

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