Should be noted that although the soldiers were in Morocco for the training mission, they were believed to have gone on a recreational hike and officials claim one of the [soldiers fell into the ocean and the other dove in to save him](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/missing-us-soldiers-morocco-one-tried-to-save-another-officials-say/) :(
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t53ix35May 6, 2026
+211
The ocean doesn’t care if you can swim. It just takes longer to die that way.
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TobysGrundleeMay 6, 2026
+123
My teenage son is a high level competitive swimmer and I remind him of this all the time. All your training and strength doesn't mean a god damn thing in the ocean.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-110
They were not in the ocean when they went missing..... read the article... it is a lot more sus
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tepkelMay 7, 2026
+66
From the article:
>They are believed to have been on a recreational hike and may have fallen into the ocean.
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ShadowNickMay 7, 2026
+37
"read the article" 🤓
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squatchsaxMay 7, 2026
+17
Such confidence... yet wrong.
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Im_better_than__uMay 6, 2026
+159
Money is no object... unless it's for healthcare or housing.
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Playful_Rip_1280May 6, 2026
+39
More than enough money for that, just terrible execution, policies and regulations.
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Any-Captain-7937May 6, 2026
-68
Bot ass comment
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[deleted]May 6, 2026
+5
[removed]
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Any-Captain-7937May 6, 2026
-13
No but it's hardly relevant to the article...
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Im_better_than__uMay 6, 2026
-13
Could very well be something a bot might say.
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DustonredMay 6, 2026
-28
It seems like all huge portion of America tax payer money always ends up in the middle east for some reasons..
Edit: I know Morocco isn't in the middle east, they weren't going to Morocco, just passing off it's coast you smart asses.
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baseketballMay 6, 2026
+28
Morocco is in western Africa
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DrunkenDegenerateMay 6, 2026
+25
North Africa. Directly on the mediterranean sea
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DustonredMay 6, 2026
Which they were on for reason that have nothing to do with the middle east..
Anyway yes I do know that Morocco isn't in the middle east, I never said I was American.
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Specialist-Affect-19May 6, 2026
+22
The money definitely isn't going towards education
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DustonredMay 6, 2026
+1
On that we can all agree.
Healthcare either if you look at your average American..
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Honest-Boysenberry96May 6, 2026
+16
North-Africa buddy.
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imnotslavicMay 6, 2026
+2
Northwest Africa buddy
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Honest-Boysenberry96May 6, 2026
+9
Oh yeah if you want to be geographically precise: Western part of the Northern-African region.
Geopolitically though, no one has ever referred to Morocco as being part of Northwestern-Africa but just North-Africa. I could tell you that because I’m Moroccan myself.
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zsmittyMay 8, 2026
+3
I've been to Morroco, it is northern coast of Africa. Check a map if you doubt it.
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Jollygreen182May 6, 2026
-5
Defense industry lobbying
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
-67
The US spends more per capita on healthcare than any other country in the world…
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Yardsale420May 6, 2026
+73
The high spending is driven largely by higher prices for medical services, drugs, and administrative costs, rather than higher usage. For instance, MRI scans can cost 420% more in the U.S. than in Australia.
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
-60
None of which changes the fact that any notion that the US refuse to spend money on healthcare (like OP is suggesting) is 100% false.
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flpa1060May 6, 2026
+53
They refuse to spend it on actual healthcare. Giving it to unnecessary middlemen who then deny coverage is something we love to do.
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
-41
No one is arguing that the US healthcare system is efficient. Just that the notion they are willing to spend is 100% untrue. Not sure what point you think you’re arguing against?
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FlugelnullMay 6, 2026
+15
It seems very clear to me that they're saying that the spending, which is the highest per capita, goes to support inflated service and supply costs due to the insurance system. There is a lack of political will/action to eliminate or reduce middle-man costs that keeps those per-capita costs very high, and a refusal to implement single-payer options that would reduce healthcare costs for the state/people.
If your point is "but the government does spend money on healthcare ergo you are wrong" then sure, but that misses the entire context of the comment that the government doesn't seem to be helping people directly. So you're technically correct, but I'm not sure what point you're making by choosing a literal interpretation of a comment expressing a common/general POV?
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OakLegsMay 6, 2026
+16
The more relevant argument is that the US refuses to change its healthcare system so that it could spend much LESS for the same level of coverage
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
-4
Right. Unfortunately that’s not the argument OP made here. I corrected the comment because the insinuation is that the US should just throw more money at HC is both dangerous and untrue.
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sasha_the_impalerMay 6, 2026
+3
If the money was consolidated within the government instead of dozens of private insurance companies, it would mean more bargaining power.
It's the same logic as why unions are beneficial and lead to better pay. Who do you think would get a better deal? 10 people who say "either you pay us all more or we all quit at the same time" or 10 people who go behind each other's backs to negotiate their own deal? The latter group has no bargaining power individually.
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_KodeXMay 6, 2026
+2
There's no way you're that dumb right?
Just because you're spending the most on healthcare doesn't mean anything when that money is basically being scammed away. Interesting that you have more spending on it yet significantly worse healthcare than other wealthy nations.
The US is so so backwards in so many ways for how much great stuff comes outta there.
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
The US spends a shitload on Healthcare. Yes or no?
At what point, in any of my comments, am I arguing that the money is spent efficiently?
Do you have any other straw men you want to try to argue against?
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kyussorderMay 8, 2026
+1
You are being deliberately obtuse.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
+1
And somehow not enough....
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
+2
It’s almost like the amount being spent isn’t the problem…
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
+1
Just to be clear education has never been properly funded..
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sasha_the_impalerMay 6, 2026
+1
Individual Americans spend a ton of money on their private health insurance claims.
The government does not invest into healthcare to anywhere near the same extent as nationalized systems.
It's like pointing to government housing, and then pointing to private rentals, and saying "See, people in private rentals spend more for their apartment than people on Section 8 housing!"
Yeah, no shit dude...
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ohst8buxcp7May 6, 2026
+3
US PUBLIC spending on Healthcare is the 4th highest in the world….
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
+2
Given we are the wealthiest by a lot...that says a lot
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sasha_the_impalerMay 6, 2026
+8
Yeah because it's privatized and inflated.
Nationalize the healthcare system, cut out the insurance company bullshit entirely, and suddenly a lot less money gets wasted on administrative bullshit.
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Marston_vcMay 6, 2026
+3
And yet measurable health outcomes are worse than most other modern nations.
You’d figure spending twice as much money per capita would give you twice the results…. But instead we get LESS.
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sylbugMay 6, 2026
+10
And gets all round worse results. It’s almost as if making healthcare a capitalist industry is a bad idea.
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moreobviousthingsMay 7, 2026
+3
The waste is in the insurance side of healthcare. That’s a bloated bureaucracy that needs to end, and would, with universal health care.
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Awkward_Silence-May 6, 2026
+1
Education as well (per student). Yet it's also one of those things that usually gets harped on as not spending money towards
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
+1
The federal government spends very little on education.... we literally give more to Israel than k-12 schools
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Awkward_Silence-May 6, 2026
+1
~$20k per student per year is what the US spends. 4th most in the world on education cost (Norway and Austria recently passed the Us on spending).
Used to be only be the micro state Luxembourg spending more per student than the US on education
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
+1
And it mostly goes to greedy people and because of the system it's designed that way
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webdevopMay 7, 2026
+1
And whos coffers is it going to?
Last week I paid $250 (on top of VSP vision plan, that I believe covered about ~$300) to get a single pair of glasses.
It costs me $30 in India/Pakistan/Malaysia/Vietnam/Indonesia/Philippines to get the same thing.
Not a good comparison? Well it costs me €120 to get the same thing in the Netherlands.
US is a big scam for an average person.
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ohst8buxcp7May 7, 2026
+2
Who, anywhere in this thread, do you think you're arguing with?
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webdevopMay 7, 2026
+1
Definitely not you. There's a minimum IQ floor needed to create a useful response to my comment.
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ohst8buxcp7May 7, 2026
+2
Cool. Maybe you should spend less time posting random counterfactuals to arguments not being made in the comment you're responding to.
Although on the other hand, I'm sure making snide comments in response to random strawman arguments you create is a big self esteem boost!
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you_cant_prove_thatMay 7, 2026
-23
You can’t really compare the two, there’s a huge difference between the money being spent on this search (or even the defense budget as a whole) compared to the estimated cost of universal healthcare or housing
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Notorious_Chonk_23May 7, 2026
+10
Now do per person
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Random_Words_1827May 7, 2026
+19
Why dont they use the magical "heartbeat murmur technology" lol
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True-Industry-4057May 7, 2026
+7
Can't trace a heartbeat if there isn't one
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Great-Yoghurt-6359May 7, 2026
+17
That’s a lot of missing people
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Additional_Dish_694May 7, 2026
+8
Two? They know exactly what happened… one died trying to save another.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-20
Or they both were pushed...
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Blue_Swirling_BunnyMay 7, 2026
+11
Whose a****** did you pull that conjecture out of?
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No_Wrongdoer466May 8, 2026
-7
The u.s. is very hated right now.... 30 other countries.. 7000 ppl
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PurpleCoat6656May 10, 2026
+1
There are no sharks in Dorne!
Seriously though, RIP
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[deleted]May 6, 2026
-1
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derzt1May 6, 2026
+5
This has nothing to do with who’s president
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
-7
Why would it not?
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adumbfetusMay 6, 2026
+13
They were on a recreational hike when they went missing. I hate the current administration as much as any sane person, but it’s got nothing to do with this.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-1
"with more than 7,000 personnel from over 30 nations. ".... hmmmm....
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adumbfetusMay 7, 2026
+2
Correct, that was for the military exercise. There are breaks during the exercise, during the break the soldiers went on a recreational hike.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-2
Yall didn't read the article....
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
-8
Clearly they were targeted because of who the administration is....
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neonxmoose99May 6, 2026
+12
The ocean targeted them?
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JTP1228May 6, 2026
+3
Yes, the ocean clearly hates Trump
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-1
Where did it say they fell in the ocean? They were hiking?
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JTP1228May 7, 2026
+3
The third paragraph. Does nobody read?
> They are believed to have been on a recreational hike and may have fallen into the ocean.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-2
7000 visitors... 30 nations and all think they both fell in???!!!?? Mmmmmk
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
-4
Again... we don't know.... odd they both... felll... very how many ppl fall a year here? A big convention of 30 nations... we are very hated
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Blue_Swirling_BunnyMay 7, 2026
+1
You can't hike near water?
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No_Wrongdoer466May 7, 2026
+1
How convenient.... when more than 7,000 personnel from over 30 nations.
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the_red_scimitarMay 7, 2026
+1
Wow, you'd think 600 people would be easy to find...
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Horror-Jicama8913May 6, 2026
-56
There are soldiers that don't know how to swim apparently
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imnotslavicMay 6, 2026
+41
There are people that don't know about currents and undertoes apparently
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Horror-Jicama8913May 6, 2026
-14
I'm not saying knowing how to swim would made a difference in this scenario, the article stated he didn't know how to swim. I would have assumed everyone in the military knew how to swim
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imnotslavicMay 6, 2026
+3
The article states nothing about any soldiers except that two went on a recreational hike and fell into the ocean. Ctrl+f "swim" results in nothing.
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Horror-Jicama8913May 6, 2026
+9
"Another soldier then jumped in to try to save the service member, who was known not to be able to swim, but the would-be rescuer was immediately hit by a wave, the report indicates"
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imnotslavicMay 6, 2026
-11
You must be getting this from a different article because the AP article that is this post does not include any of that.
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Horror-Jicama8913May 6, 2026
+8
It's from the link kimjongfunk posted
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Jormungandr4321May 6, 2026
+8
Yeah I can see it too.
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Select_Season7735May 6, 2026
+8
You need to do more research. Other commenter is right and includes the fact that a service member couldn’t swim.
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No_Wrongdoer466May 6, 2026
-12
They were on a hike... I think they were targeted...
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