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flint_tower Apr 11, 2026 +562

It’s wild watching states double down on fossil fuels while insurance companies literally price climate risk into everything. Easiest quiet protest: move your money and retirement funds out of fossil-heavy portfolios if you can.

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talligan Apr 11, 2026 +64

You'd think that people would want to move away from the boom bust cycle of a hydrocarbon economy to energy that has a much more stable price, but that's apparently woke

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MeesterBooth Apr 11, 2026 +62

You should see what the Utah legislature said about Pacificorp (a power company) selling off their assets in Washington state.

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FontMeHard Apr 11, 2026 +26

well, what’d they say?

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Fall_Harvest Apr 11, 2026 +13

[https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2026/02/18/utah-applauds-pacificorps-energy/](https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2026/02/18/utah-applauds-pacificorps-energy/)

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FormerTesseractPilot Apr 11, 2026 +11

You should see!

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Fallouttgrrl Apr 11, 2026 +7

I dunno Somehow I think - if I could afford a retirement fund - that it's likely to be doing fine in fossil fuels right up until the world ends :/

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louslapsbass21 Apr 12, 2026 +1

Ok but insurance companies will take any possible excuse to charge more, so saying they've priced it in doesn't make it real. And retail money does not compare to the amount of investment in fossil fuels so the quiet protest does nothing significant sadly

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joepez Apr 11, 2026 +66

No industry should be shielded from negligence or willful harmful actions.

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DicemonkeyDrunk Apr 11, 2026 +28

Let me introduce you to Police Unions and qualified immunity….the more you know the worse it gets.

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joepez Apr 11, 2026 +2

Police officers have qualified immunity not the unions but I get your point. That said police officers are not an industry. Gun manufacturers, AI or any other business should not have government sponsored protections. That’s an uncapped subsidy paid for by the public. If an industry has, or is seeking it, that means they know they have liabilities they can’t defend. And at the end of the day you get that subsidy so you can turn on a continuous political donation spigot not to protect a nascent industry.

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DicemonkeyDrunk Apr 11, 2026 +2

Police officers have qualified immunity because of unions and government protection.

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National-Law-458 Apr 10, 2026 +233

Utah is turning into a cesspool.

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junkyard_robot Apr 10, 2026 +287

Turning into? I'll give you the great salt lake is turning into a cesspool. But, Utah has been a cesspool of mormon weird american jesus religious control since the beginning.

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DoomguyFemboi Apr 11, 2026 +30

A cesspool would be several steps up. What that lake is turning into is something so deadly it's really hard to comprehend. When it dries up a huge part of the state will become uninhabitable.

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BooobiesANDbho Apr 11, 2026 +26

As a Utahn. I can confirm

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twarthbn Apr 11, 2026 +12

It’s always been surprising to me that right-wing mainline Christianity allows the mormon church to exist. The fact that the church’s investment portfolio controls over 100 billion USD probably doesn’t hurt

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GetsBetterAfterAFew Apr 11, 2026 +151

Utah is a state because mormons murdered innocent people and basically declared war on the US Military 1857-1858 and eventually signed a pact to stop warring in lieu of being given Utah after they found incredible amounts of gold. They killed 1000s of innocent people moving to the west coast. Monsters.

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 Apr 11, 2026 +53

There's a Netflix miniseries called American Primaeval that is all about this. A woman from the east trying to escape from the law and get to Cally with her young son after she killed her abusive husband. Their path west led them directly into the 3-way conflict among the Utes, the Mormon militias, and the US Govt. Brutal scenes.

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two4six0won Apr 11, 2026 +29

I keep meaning to watch that. I vaguely remember the Mormons being upset by it, so it's probably more accurate than usual lol.

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Prin_StropInAh Apr 11, 2026 +10

It is a fantastic history series. I DO NOT see it as historical fiction

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Ravenkell Apr 11, 2026 +7

Not speaking of this show in particular, I haven't seen it l, but a representation does not have to be realistic to be an accurate portrayal. And most outside looks into mormonism have not made me sympathetic to their party

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 Apr 12, 2026 +1

The woman and her son trying to get to California is just to add flavor.

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 Apr 11, 2026 +4

Well worth a watch.

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Statertater Apr 11, 2026 +8

Dude that was such a great series*. Thanks for commenting this, i never did catch why she was running

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 Apr 11, 2026 +3

It's not really revealed until the last few episodes.

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memrph Apr 11, 2026 +37

A monstrous religious group? No that can’t be! /s

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NeighborhoodFew7779 Apr 11, 2026 +26

I dunno... I thoroughly enjoy watching the MAGA Mormons cozy up with the people (MAGA Evangelicals) who hate them the absolute most... all because they think they finally have a seat at the *cool kids'* table. MAGA will happily poop knife the Mormons like a stuck turd... **after** they achieve their ultimate goal of a white, Jesus-jerking ethnostate. There is literally no single group that hates Mormons more than white Evangelicals. Not even the ex-mormons that Mormon leaders have propped up as their favorite strawman. It's not even close. If these folks get what they're all hoping for, it's going to be the mother of all "leopards eating faces" bombs. The corrupted DOJ will come after that sweet, sweet $250B that the Mormons have amassed, and they'll easily do it with the justification of "cult"... once the levers of power have been secured.

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OePea Apr 11, 2026 +10

That is the most uplifting projection for the future I have read in quite some time, I thank you

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NeighborhoodFew7779 Apr 11, 2026 +5

We'll be an absolute shit show by that point... probably subsisting on dumpster rat protein, and whatever welfare crypto we can eek out of the system for "digital loyalty credits"... ...but if I get to watch Mormon temples turned into ICE strip joints, it will be some small reward.

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O_PLUTO_O Apr 11, 2026 +13

https://youtu.be/KTBkESi060k This movie came out in 1997. It’s been a cesspool for a long long time. Started around the time Mormons moved in.

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AT-PT Apr 11, 2026 +2

I wish Utah was abbreviated "Uh"

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UselessInsight Apr 11, 2026 +6

Kind of what you get when you let a church become the de facto government.

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AnewTest Apr 11, 2026 +3

It's been a cesspool since the moment the US gave the Mormons the land.

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National-Law-458 Apr 11, 2026 +9

I didn’t even mention “other people”. Between their air, water, and soil contaminations it’s literally turning into a cesspool.

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turb0_encapsulator Apr 11, 2026 +61

Republican politics is hilarious because they'll defend moneyed interests that don't even have a major presence in the state.

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redyellowblue5031 Apr 11, 2026 +10

Oh I’m so glad we’re moving the forest service [to Utah](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ywdy4lvjxo).

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Direlion Apr 11, 2026 +21

Why wouldn’t they? This is entirely on brand for Utah.

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furrysalesman69 Apr 10, 2026 +45

Did they not *just* have that train accident with those petrochemicals making a whole portion of Utah uninhabitable?!

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murrtrip Apr 10, 2026 +38

3 years ago in Ogden. Didn’t make anything uninhabitable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhvYHFoml0

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furrysalesman69 Apr 11, 2026 +18

Flip, how time passes. Still, though, they were already scaling back environmental regulations. 2023 is still relatively close. I must have been thinking of ohio.

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capt_fantastic Apr 11, 2026 +5

tim dechristopher got 21 months (several in solitary) just for bidding in an illegal land auction. utah's always been this way.

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Interesting-Prize-79 Apr 11, 2026 +8

Every Politician Who Voted For This Should Be In Jail

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Cockyidiot1977 Apr 11, 2026 +4

What did you expect, Money corrupts everything

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jabaturd Apr 11, 2026 +7

You newbs can thank your SCOTUS for making bribes legal. Reap the whirlwind. The US is definitely more corrupt than China and a toss up with Russia.

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Western-Corner-431 Apr 11, 2026 +2

This is why Utah can’t help its own working class people

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Gnostinaut Apr 12, 2026 +2

This is why I left. Utah is run by a cult that literally worships pollution.

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antisocialdecay Apr 11, 2026 +4

Republicans bowing to the money donors. Color me shocked.

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swegamer137 Apr 11, 2026 -5

"[Utah](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/utah) has made it nearly impossible for residents to hold [fossil fuel](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/fossil-fuels) companies legally accountable for climate damages" Great! The idea they should be accountable for.... releasing CO2, something literally every human does every day, is absurd.

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