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News & Current Events Apr 9, 2026 at 8:06 PM

A toll for using Hormuz would be a 'dangerous precedent', UN's ship agency says

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BOPSurfcasting Apr 9, 2026 +189
From another article: "Many analysts are forecasting crude oil prices to settle at about US$80 a barrel, up 30% from US$65 before the war. That extra cost may stay on petrol pumps indefinitely." Great, just great.
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DemosthenesOrNah Apr 9, 2026 +80
Thats A. incredibly optimistic, B. on a very long time line
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Superest22 Apr 9, 2026 +99
Prices were never going to go down. Companies would find an excuse for a new baseline regardless. Thanks Trump you colossal c***.
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Angry_beaver_1867 Apr 9, 2026 +66
Why ? Oil prices drop all the time.  High prices stimulate supply which lowers prices.  Otherwise we’d still be living with $150 oil from post 2008 or post the Russian invasion of Ukraine 
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Otterfan Apr 9, 2026 +17
Yeah, people have forgotten that we had average $5.02 per gallon gas in the USA just four years ago, a full two dollars higher than the average gallon the day before the current war started.
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Nedshent Apr 10, 2026 +16
I think some people genuinely think that monopolies are the norm and that price discovery is a myth. Even if they wouldn't use those words and are just using their intuitions.
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happy-cig Apr 9, 2026 -2
Fearmongers gotta fear. 
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WhatD0thLife Apr 9, 2026 -3
Fearmongers gotta mong\*
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OneMagicMango Apr 10, 2026 +2
I mean it happened in other areas like groceries. The pandemic raised prices but yet they’re still high today. So wouldn’t surprise me if something similar happens. Would love to be wrong though
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Superest22 Apr 9, 2026 -2
They drop but the price at the pump steadily increases above inflation. This just pushes that price up further. Bring back Covid prices lol. I will ack that we’ve had a few wars etc since Covid which obviously drives it up further tbf.
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Horat1us_UA Apr 9, 2026 +18
During Covid there was really low demand for oil, it’s never coming back if we don’t experience another pandemic
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Into-the-stream Apr 9, 2026 +8
With the cost of gas this high, EVs become more and more viable. I’m in Canada and we were already heavily pushing EVs with government grants and the new Chinese EV deals. The gas prices and the insane prices of used cars are kinda a big tipping point for people buying a vehicle. So, I don’t know what’s going on with the United States, but it feels inevitable that gas vehicles are being phased out here. Demand will drop.
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Horat1us_UA Apr 9, 2026 +4
They’ll rather go for coal trucks then electrify there
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Maximum_Indication Apr 9, 2026 +3
IMO a lot of people want an EV but can’t afford it. The upfront cost is just too high. And yes, a lot of people want a truck or SUV that they already can’t afford and then want to complain that it’s over a hundred to fill it up.
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Ediwir Apr 9, 2026 +2
$1000 upfront here, with tax free loans available. Granted, I’d rather pay the cash myself, but the upfront price is not the issue.
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Common-Concentrate-2 Apr 9, 2026 -6
Was there a pandemic here? Are you talking about SARS? Low oil prices in the late 1990s, particularly in 1998-1999, saw crude oil plunge below $13 a barrel. This crash was largely driven by the Asian financial crisis reducing demand, while overproduction, particularly by OPEC, kept supplies high. The slump caused severe industry cost-cutting, job losses, and mergers, benefiting transportation and manufacturing sectors.  **Key Factors for Low Prices** * [**Asian/Pacific Financial Crisis**](https://www.google.com/search?q=Asian%2FPacific+Financial+Crisis&rlz=1C5AJCO_enUS1192US1192&oq=low+oil+prices+in+late+90s&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigAdIBCDk5MThqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfBn25hAW2zRw6FzPtm-xrJ6crbqXxvICuadGZpB7TKpAgNvmHk-ijSBW5zk8YhcephyyZ_yWRDIfevyvFjxx-WGrk9nQS6Q_QK0kwkrL7VGpYb0MejuvT4HsFxXO8s3XLNFbvhv2DPzPXQ82RV6G47EFO7alEaqE2MdvnSaFHhdkqJHWX6XsxoPP5HBnUNv6xKaD2MosDlZsq66o-3flhJJ1OPNvn7cccXlmy_QMYztNmWchc5LxrmJWcaApedeUAzXK4jYSrBiP39GNOUSiYg4iW-1ai95GEu0AZK6RpKc1sPjvCA4rUZK3kCjNwkjRkR_J_Edi0xN2cb3AdPYRt0cydEI4Gqkam2iEjbUrOaY&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwig7e7B1eGTAxVej4kEHbFeLGkQgK4QegQIAxAB)**:** The economic downturn in the region significantly lowered global energy demand. * **OPEC Overproduction:** In November 1997, OPEC increased production quotas just before demand slumped, leading to a massive market oversupply. * **Increased Supply:** Increased oil production from non-OPEC sources, including the U.S., contributed to the imbalance
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Common-Concentrate-2 Apr 9, 2026 +7
Bro, no. I have 50 years on this planet. There are years where gas prices are half of what they were last year. [https://www.macrotrends.net/3591/us-gasoline-prices](https://www.macrotrends.net/3591/us-gasoline-prices)
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BOPSurfcasting Apr 9, 2026 +1
I think realistically the best we can hope for is Trump doesn't f*** anything else up.
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Embarrassed_Quit_450 Apr 9, 2026 +11
Trump not f****** up anything in 3 years is not realistic.
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All_Hail_Hynotoad Apr 9, 2026 +7
Trump not f****** up anything in three weeks is not realistic.
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blankarage Apr 9, 2026 +7
realistically the best outcome is the orange clown dies from a heart attack triggered by obesity
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100farts Apr 9, 2026 +5
Not gonna happen. 100% hes going to f*** up as much shit as he can, thats his job. Every appointee is antithetical to thier appointed positions.
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Embarrassed_Quit_450 Apr 9, 2026 +1
If only there were some kind of alternative to burning dead dinosaurs for moving a vehicle.
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BagRight1007 Apr 9, 2026 -6
Why would you thank Trump instead of: - oil companies - your local government that got too reliant on a resource they do not posses? Why are you suddenly ok buying oil from the Gulf states which are all but a democracy but not Russia? I'm not even defending Trump and the question is meant more for the general public
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LeagueofData Apr 9, 2026 +9
$80 more like $100. 20% of the world oil supply vanished and has not returned with no end in sight about when it will return and with the best case scenario being that it will return with a permanent Iranian tax. By the end of April, this will be covid levels of disruption in the daily life of every human in the world.
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atreidesspirit Apr 9, 2026 +1
Like everything else. Corporations are squeezing us.
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Ars2 Apr 10, 2026 +1
I love winning so much 
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fafnir01 Apr 10, 2026 +11
At the office, you have to go by my cubicle to get to the bathroom... Everyone pays a toll starting on Monday...
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mteir Apr 10, 2026 +1
By next week, you will be working between the toilet and a Mountain of shit.
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Bruvvimir Apr 10, 2026 +10
A “toll” on a natural strait is an absolutely ridiculous concept, in the context of traditional maritime laws. The Hormuz strait is not a man-made efficiency multiplier like the Panama or Suez canals, and Iran (or Oman) do nothing to warrant paying them. It’s a stupid precedent to set, and possibly the worst consequence of this manufactured conflict.
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AdPure5645 Apr 10, 2026 +3
Time for Australia to start taxing the bass straight imo
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Bioschnaps Apr 10, 2026 +1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Dues I mean, Denmark did exactly that for more than 400 years, there's certainly historical precedent for it
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Better-Ad3339 Apr 9, 2026 +101
Suez and Panama canals do at least require upkeep and maintenance from their governing states, which makes tolls realistic.  Iran have done nothing with Hormuz. It's just "You are near us, so give us money" aka modern piracy. If they can do that, that will give all sorts of stupid ideas to stupid governments. 
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Ericridge Apr 10, 2026 +3
China now considering tolls for use of their coastline for trade. :p
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[deleted] Apr 9, 2026 +22
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 10, 2026 +7
Not correct, they don’t extend 12 miles when another country is within less than 24. They split it. Another Sea Lawyer
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Irr3l3ph4nt Apr 9, 2026 +29
Imagine if Morocco and Spain started charging every ship that goes through the strait of Gibraltar because they cross into their EEZs.
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 9, 2026 +22
It’s called innocent passage on a natural occurring waterway that has not been modified by man or machine. It’s basically piracy to charge for passage. This will not end well for any party involved in charging. Suez and Panama are totally different as they have been modified by man/machine for the purpose.
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Lespaul42 Apr 9, 2026 -11
I mean your definition of piracy is pretty loose. But also like countries have a right to who they let through their territories. I mean it would likely do more harm to Morocco and Spain to charge tolls but it is within their rights.
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FentFloyd69 Apr 10, 2026 +5
Read UNCLOS, then speak.
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Irr3l3ph4nt Apr 9, 2026 +8
No they don't with commercial ships transiting to somewhere else. It's literally the maritime law.
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 9, 2026 +7
Not for innocent passage, that’s why it exists
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Olcur Apr 9, 2026 +7
Wait you guys are onto something. I’m going to start charging anybody that walks down the sidewalk adjacent to my property!
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[deleted] Apr 9, 2026 +4
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blankarage Apr 10, 2026 +1
don’t forget Gibraltar means the UK could charge for passage as well as Spain and Morocco, controlling ports/waterways has always been geopolitical!
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Irr3l3ph4nt Apr 10, 2026 +1
" Gosh! Why are guys always so geopolitical?"
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Slow-Recipe1438 Apr 9, 2026 +9
The shipping lanes are in Omans waters and the underwater terrain is deeper close to Omans coastline, [as the map shows.](https://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=8&lon=56.20637&lat=26.22025&layers=TFTFFFTFFTFFFFFFTTFFFT)
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quiplaam Apr 9, 2026 +5
The strait is controlled by Iran and Oman waters. Ships can pass though Omani water if Iran charges a toll in theory, but Iran illegally threatening to blow up and civilian vessels that do so
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Terriorist
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tofu98 Apr 10, 2026 +1
I mean arent they only in irans territorial waters now because they put mines all over the place so people have to come closer to shore?
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Embarrassed_Quit_450 Apr 9, 2026 +10
To be fair to Iran they didn't ask to be attacked by Israel and its b****.
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AdPure5645 Apr 9, 2026 +36
They've been funding terrorism against Israel and it's b**** for a while. The war is dumb but Iran aren't some innocent victim.
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Embarrassed_Quit_450 Apr 9, 2026 +28
Not saying they're innocent. More that kicking a wasps nest has consequences.
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mollila Apr 10, 2026 +3
Passing on a wasp nest like a hot potato. International maritime law isn't a trifle matter. Sure they're using this as a bargaining chip now. But it just cannot stand.
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unematti Apr 10, 2026 -3
There's a distance from shore that belongs to the country on that shore by that maritime law, if i recall... The canal is like 50km wide. Sounds reasonable honestly.
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Juris_footslave Apr 10, 2026 +2
UNCLOS says there should be right of passage as it’s a vital waterway.
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1oser Apr 9, 2026
The best thing to do when you have a wasp's nest outside your house is to let them be.
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Triggr Apr 10, 2026 +7
Since when? Every wasp nest near my house I destroy so it doesn’t get big enough to be a danger to me or my family. I don’t think your metaphor works the way you want it to.
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1oser Apr 10, 2026
We’re on the same side bud
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bsnimunf Apr 10, 2026 +3
Not me I strip naked rub myself in sugar then spend the afternoon prodding it with a stick. 
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kahiny Apr 10, 2026 +2
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EnoughEngineering306 Apr 10, 2026
So have Israel and the u.s.
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eorlingas_riders Apr 9, 2026 +2
I mean… they were bombed pretty aggressively. Considering other places need to upkeep and maintain, would it be ok for Iran to issue a toll to those countries that bombed them (and/or those that supported bombing them) until they are restored?
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blankarage Apr 9, 2026 -11
i mean getting bombed for no reason is pretty good justification of charging a toll
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1oser Apr 9, 2026 +9
No reason? The glazing of the IRGC is wild
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unematti Apr 10, 2026 -3
If nothing else, until they recoup the damages from the bombings and some extra for the civilian casualties, I think it's fair. It's not like they just closed it without a reason.
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ezagreb Apr 9, 2026 +31
Everybody here should go watch Fox News for 24 hours And see what they’re talking about because it’s not Trump taking the blame for higher prices and Middle east conflicts. Their viewership is completely brainwashed
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jawndell Apr 10, 2026 +8
They’re still talking about trans athletes and woke-ism.  Even an opinion segment about how higher gas prices might be a *good* thing because it’ll help you save more. 
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Longy_LTB Apr 10, 2026 +2
That's just wild. And people wonder how he got back into power. I assume he owns or has affiliates in Fox?
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stonertear Apr 9, 2026 +17
UNRWA also set a dangerous precedent when they were more than happy to hire terrorists.
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Playing-Eve Apr 9, 2026 +21
Allowing a felon to run for office of president of the United States was also a dangerous precedent, but here we are.
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FentFloyd69 Apr 10, 2026 +5
Cool, I didn't know I was allowed to vote in the US election! Since Iranians are extorting all vessels, not only US and Israel, your argument is silly.
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Playing-Eve Apr 10, 2026 -3
Other governments could have flatly stated that they would not deal with a man convicted of, or found legally responsible for, financial or sexual crimes. The US has used it's "international" power all the time.
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FentFloyd69 Apr 10, 2026 +6
That's not how diplomacy works. Criminal matters are sovereign, it is up to Americans to sort it out.
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Curious_Owl197 Apr 10, 2026 +1
Bombing other countries is also a dangerous precedent
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shogi_x Apr 9, 2026 +7
If this stands, China is absolutely going to start collecting tolls in the South China Sea. ~20% of all maritime shipping goes through there every year.
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Embarrassed_Quit_450 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Of course not. China aims to increase its international standing, pissing off everybody is not the way to achieve that.
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shogi_x Apr 9, 2026 +6
And yet that's exactly what they've been doing for years violating copyrights, hacking, building artificial islands with military bases in the South China Sea, protecting North Korea, supporting Russia and Iran, and more.
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UhhhhmmmmNo Apr 10, 2026 +1
Well, we tried surrounding them with military bases and that didn’t work.
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Prestigious_Task7175 Apr 10, 2026
Yeah, but that doesn't really affect international shipping prices, and in most cases it just annoys the US and its allies more than anything. Them putting a toll would piss everyone, and people would just buy less from China and more from some other c**** labour SEA nations.
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 9, 2026 +2
It would only stand if people follow this baseless claim. It’s beyond dumb as can only be thought of by a terrorist leadership trying to do anything to stay in power. The modern world countries need to squash this non sense and just sail ships like normal. Let them attack a ship and see what happens
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Syserinn Apr 10, 2026 +4
It would be. Global shipping would go to hell for itself. No country should be able toll an international waterway. Imagine the shit that would happen to global shipping if Spain tried to do with the the Strait of Gibraltar for Mediterranean Sea Access Yemen with the entrance/exit to the Red Sea. Any country that has a waterway chokepoint near them would become fair game if this is allowed.
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dumbo9 Apr 10, 2026 +1
Any country doing that would face tariffs and sanctions from the world community. The problem with Iran is that the world has already applied heavy sanctions after Trump cancelled the nuclear deal. So there is no easy stick left to threaten Iran with. The flip-side is that relaxing sanctions is a carrot that the Iranian Regime desperately wants - and would likely exchange this toll for.
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GetRightWithChaac Apr 9, 2026 +10
This is literally just extortion. Iran also just spent over a month indiscriminately attacking practically everyone in the entire region. No one is going to want to pay this over the long term. They've burned every bridge they had. If this deal holds I think countries will look to bypass the Strait of Hormuz altogether by building alternative infrastructure. Iran can't collect extortion money from ships passing through a canal or from pipelines outside it's territory. The same geography Iran used to lock the world out can be used to lock Iran in.
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Just solidifies the regime needs to be removed for good
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GetRightWithChaac Apr 9, 2026 +7
The Iranian people deserve far better than the theocratic hell they've been put through.
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 9, 2026 +3
Sure the people but not the military regime
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GetRightWithChaac Apr 10, 2026 +1
The regime belongs in the dustbin of history. No one should have to live under an oppressive theocracy.
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Prestigious_Task7175 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Ironically paying the toll would be far easier and probably more c**** in the short term than building the infrastructure needed to bypass the strait. something like 120+ ships passed daily trough there, the pipes needed would have to be insanely costly and they would be very easily targeted by crazy terrorists anyways.
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GetRightWithChaac Apr 10, 2026 +1
It's not just about money though. There's going to be a lot of bitterness towards the Iranian regime moving forward. Sometimes spite is motivation enough. By attacking civilian shipping and demanding extortion money, Iran basically put itself on the same level as Somali pirates. They're effectively holding the Gulf states hostage with this proposal. I think they're not only going to look at the economic implications of that arrangement, but also how it impacts their national interests and security moving forward. Even if it's potentially cheaper in the short term, they aren't going to want to pay extortion money to a country that repeatedly attacked them just so it can go to work rearming itself and pose a greater threat to them in the future. It's a terrible deal.
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Forward-Ladder6157 Apr 9, 2026 +7
Lol what, no more than the rogue state US deciding they want to depose Venezuelan leaders who dare sell oil to other nations then try to install their own proxies?
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dnight22 Apr 9, 2026 +9
Neither Irans Terrorist regime nor orange cheeto care. These two Terrorist countries will ruin the whole world economy.
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MaksimilenRobespiere Apr 9, 2026 +4
Yeah, a dirtbag regime (supported by Putin) meets an orange wannabe dictator (supported by Netenyahu) to increase the price of oil and energy around the world. They don’t care about the cost for already struggling people. What a shitty time this is?
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Beautiful-Lie1239 Apr 9, 2026 +1
What is NOT a “ dangerous precedent”?
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InjectorTheGood Apr 9, 2026 +5
Killing a country's entire leadership?
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Big_lt Apr 9, 2026 +2
No shit, what happens if a ship refuses to pay will they bomb them, attack it, close the straight? Why does Iran collect and not other bordering countries along the straight
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splooge_mcducc Apr 9, 2026 +2
Why don’t Malaysia/Indonesia and Egypt do the same? No chance a foreign nation could topple them just like the US can’t topple Iran
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FenixOfNafo Apr 9, 2026 +9
Malaysia and Indonesia should start a (fake) war... Lobbed some missiles and drones at each other's bases(conveniently empty because they evacuated)... Destroy some radars and old jets and then say they will collect toll from all ships crossing the straight of Malacca... Hell even England and France can do the same and start collecting tolls on ships crossing the English channel 😌
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Embarrassed_Quit_450 Apr 9, 2026 +4
Nobody doing international commerce wants to expose themselves to economic retaliation.
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FentFloyd69 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Egypt does charge for Suez canal transit. Quite a lot in fact. But artificial waterways have different rules.
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FresseHexengesicht Apr 9, 2026
Foreign nations could bomb and sanction them though.   This is the essential point: Iran did not close the Strait until after they were bombed. Repeatedly.  Or in other words: Until they had more to lose from not using Hormuz as leverage.  These tolls are secondary to the closure of the Strait. Only made possible by the bombing.
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Ultra_Metal Apr 10, 2026 +1
It would violate international law. Nobody has the right to block or control an international waterway.
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MonsieurFubar Apr 10, 2026 -3
International law is dead long time ago mate. Tell me of an instant where it was applied to a superpower! It is only used against global south and non-white countries!
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Portmanteau_that Apr 10, 2026 +1
Dang. Looks like I'll be biking even more
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Doublewobble Apr 10, 2026 +1
_Denmark enters the chat._ Can we do a toll from Denmark to Sweden and Denmark to Greenland. Nothing big. Just a million dollars pr ship.
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Impression-These Apr 9, 2026 -6
The claim is that the toll is placed to collect the damages US/Israel caused by this war. If someone else has another idea to collect restitution, I guess they can tell the Iranian government about it.
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FentFloyd69 Apr 10, 2026 +6
Just because I was assaulted it doesn't give me the right to start robbing random people in the street.
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tagillaslover Apr 9, 2026 +5
They can also just not get restitution and figure it out
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ntx2 Apr 9, 2026 -7
I'm going to take your money, you can just figure it out.
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1oser Apr 9, 2026 +5
Unironically yes, sanctions and asset freezes are first line defenses against regimes engaged in state-sponsored terrorism
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alee1994 Apr 10, 2026 +1
So why are there no sanctions against USA?
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ntx2 Apr 10, 2026 +1
Might makes right sir, this space, much like the rest of the internet, is the tribune of american exceptionalism and navel gazing
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CaptainBoogieWoogie Apr 9, 2026 -4
Only charge ships doing business with Israel and US. Problem solved
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Judgeman2021 Apr 9, 2026 +1
So would nuking an entire country...
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giboauja Apr 9, 2026 +2
Theyre not wrong. As unjustyable as this war was, Iran is not innocent in interference and proxy wars regionally. A crazy US president just let it all out when the pragmatic thing was to just let the cold war there simmer.  What im saying is they shouldn't gain some long term benefit for geting kicked in the face when they themselves have been trying to destabilize and harm their gulf neighbors for decades.  Not that im against finding a solution for reconstruction, but the Gulf needs that too and without guarantees Iran is absolutely not going to use this money for internal reconstruction. There inability to use what wealth they have on infrastructure is largly why they're running out of water and why upper brass IRGC and Clerics are billionaire. 
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Griffisbored Apr 9, 2026 +1
30,000 ships traverse the straits per year under normal conditions at the proposed $2M per ship that is $60B in new revenue for Iran per year. For context that’s more per year than Iran made from all of its oil exports prior to the war and Irans entire government budget was about $100B. Iran is going to leave this conflict with the regime intact, full control of Hormuz, and a giant new revenue source to rearm and rebuild. What an absolute failure.
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Ok_Reach_5004 Apr 10, 2026 +1
 Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Iraqi ships will probably be excluded from this toll. That is like 70%. The actual revenue will be far less.
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PhillyboyGW Apr 9, 2026 +1
America used to keep the waterways open and free for everyone. now trump wants to set up a protection racket with a country he just bombed
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pete_68 Apr 10, 2026 +1
Oh the consequences of electing a 34x felon, fraud and rapist.
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Virtual_Permit2761 Apr 9, 2026 -1
Allowing a genocide is a dangerous precedent
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Artcorvelais Apr 9, 2026 +1
The deal maker in chief.
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anonchurner Apr 10, 2026
I'd much rather have seen a carbon tax, but in the absence of that, I'm celebrating the higher oil prices and rooting for more. It's about time someone seriously raised the price of oil. We've been drowning ourselves and the planet in dirt c**** crude for too long.
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readytall Apr 9, 2026
Illegal assassinations of sovereign nation leaders would be dangerous president. But we've gotten used already
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LazyCondition0 Apr 9, 2026
Toll for the troll
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marqjone706 Apr 9, 2026
So was placating and sane washing the village moron, but here we are.
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008Zulu Apr 9, 2026 -1
Blame America, and sue them for reimbursement.
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worldisone Apr 9, 2026 -2
Oh no not 1% of what the ships holding in fees! I'm sure the businesses making 52% markups won't be able to survive with this! It sucks, but that's what the world has to deal with if we wanna keep zionests in power
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CumGuzlinGutterSluts Apr 10, 2026
"A toll for using an additional lane through a mandatory tunnel would be a dangerous precedent" "Laughs in american"
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Capitain_Collateral Apr 9, 2026 -5
Multiple decapitation strikes against the leaders of countries we don’t like would also be a dangerous precedent, yet here we all are.
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Plane-Breakfast-8817 Apr 9, 2026 -3
The rise of the Petroyuan and the permanent decline of the Dollar are officially here, and it’s all because Trump completely failed to predict a single thing Iran said they will do.  ​While he was staging the 82nd Airborne for a 20th-century vanity war, he got flanked by a 21st-century fintech blockade. He bet the house on Iran blinking under "Maximum Pressure," but instead, they installed a Yuan-denominated toll booth at the entrance to the Gulf. ​Now, we’re seeing exactly how the guy who bankrupted several casinos operates—by trying to sell a total loss as a "Joint Venture." By even entertaining this toll system, he’s signing the death warrant for the Petrodollar. You don't get "Freedom of Navigation" back once you start paying the IRGC in Yuan to keep the lights on. This isn't the "Art of the Deal"—it’s the Art of the retreat. 
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leisurechef Apr 9, 2026 -6
[Possession is nine-tenths of the law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_is_nine-tenths_of_the_law) You’ll probably have better chances getting Trump to quit posting on Truth Social or getting Netanyahu to stop being a serial killer. $1 per Barrel isn’t that bad, you could always not buy it?
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quiplaam Apr 9, 2026 +7
Oman possesses half the strait. The only way Iran can extract tolls is by threatening to blow up civilian who use Oman's waters
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leisurechef Apr 9, 2026 -6
Pretty sure Iran only cares about oil tankers, container cargo & bulk carriers. Domestic & Passenger can move freely.
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Still-Map-7570 Apr 9, 2026 -7
the shipping lanes literally go through just iranian waters
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quiplaam Apr 9, 2026 +7
Look at a map. The ships can go through Omani water instead
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Still-Map-7570 Apr 10, 2026
they can but they currently go through Irani waters is all i am saying
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royxsong Apr 9, 2026 -5
To show the gratitude, it’s to be named Trump oil toll
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LifeOfHi Apr 10, 2026 -4
Using the word “dangerous” here to be persuasive. They really mean $$$ as Iran has always had governance of the strait.
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JmBento Apr 9, 2026 -6
I feel like it's less bad of a precedent than letting the US double-tap civilian ships in international waters with no consequences, though.
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Bad_Day_Moose Apr 9, 2026 -11
Honestly, if they gave some concessions like you know stop being an a****** etc I'd be fine with it, $2,000,000 is way over the top but $100,000 seems reasonable...
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NefariousnessIll8730 Apr 9, 2026 +8
Nothing is reasonable, it’s innocent passage on a natural waterway
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