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Announcements Oct 18, 2016 at 7:03 PM

Adding r/baseball as a default community for the remainder of the postseason.

Posted by sodypop

The baseball postseason is already underway! As such, beginning today r/baseball will temporarily be added as a default community to users in the US and Canada for the remainder of the fall classic, which is expected to end by early November at the latest. What does being a default community entail, you ask? Defaults are the set of communities displayed on the front page of listnook to logged out users, as well as to logged in users who have never altered their sublistnook subscriptions. This means posts from r/baseball will begin to appear on the front page for these users through the end of the World Series. *But … I hate baseball and don’t want to see it on my front page.* I regret to inform you that there is, in fact, [no crying in baseball](https://i.redd.it/gt2irz27xvrx.gif). However, we are aware that not everyone finds baseball to be the perfect combination of skill, athleticism, and statistical analysis. For those of you who do not wish to see r/baseball on their front page, simply visit the sublistnook and click the “unsubscribe” button. You can also review a list of your subscriptions all at once on [this page.](https://www.listnook.com/sublistnooks/mine) How to unsubscribe instructions: * [Listnook for iPhone](https://i.redd.it/twmz4we0vxrx.gif) * [Listnook for Android](https://i.redd.it/mevalxso6asx.png) * [Mobile Web](https://i.redd.it/b78l1boopxrx.gif) - via https://m.listnook.com/r/baseball * [Desktop](https://i.redd.it/hhqgvj7kpxrx.gif) - via the r/baseball sidebar * [Desktop](https://i.redd.it/q51dpz81pxrx.gif) - via [/sublistnooks/mine](https://www.listnook.com/sublistnooks/mine) **tldr: r/baseball will be a default community through the postseason for visitors from the US and Canada, which is expected to end by early November at the latest. The vast majority of the people affected will be logged out users.**
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camdoodlebop Dec 6, 2016 +169
I like this post is still at 0 after the new upvote count update
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donuts42 Oct 18, 2016 +1768
Why just this sport and not other sports during their postseasons?
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PRAISEninJAH Oct 18, 2016 +52
Perhaps this is the start of a new trend where they do indeed make other sport sublistnooks default during their respective postseason. Or maybe they are testing the waters.
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Mispelling Oct 18, 2016 +31
I believe that other sports *do* have this happen for them. I know /r/Olympics was made a default during those couple of weeks.
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sodypop Oct 18, 2016 +863
Temporary defaults are a fairly new thing we're trying, starting with r/olympics earlier this year. We want to continue to experiment with changing the defaults for seasonal events. Do you have any other sports or events in mind?
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donuts42 Oct 18, 2016 +483
I mean the big ones have to be nba, nfl, cfb, nhl, but you should probably talk with the mods of those sublistnooks before you add them to this list of temporary defaults.
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TCMoose Oct 18, 2016 +242
/r/hockey is far more active than /r/NHL and would probably be a better default.
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Lord_ThunderCunt Oct 19, 2016 +88
Shhh, let them let them default NHL, we don't want hockey defaulted. Nothing good can come of it.
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +25
Any time generic Listnook users come to that sub it just goes to shit.
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Shwingdom Oct 19, 2016 +37
NHL has one mod, who doesn't even mod. It's spam city over there a lot of the time. /R/hockey is awesome.
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GryphonNumber7 Oct 18, 2016 +16
/r/CFB should never be a default. That sub is garbage. The mods have no clue what they're doing, they enforce the rules selectively and wield the banhammer with reckless abandon. They delusionally pretend to crack down on shitposting while actually encouraging it whenever a shit post gets popular (which is every f****** day at this point). I don't even think they have actual objective standards. It's just however they feel that day. The average user has no idea what they're talking about and just use the sub as a platform to either see their own words on a public screen or make jokes. They have the exact same discussions week after week after week. And because the CFB season is only ~4 months long the vast majority of the year is offseason fan wank bullshit. And it's a sport that has absolutely no appeal, or even logical basis, outside of the United States. At least baseball is popular in some parts of Latin America and East Asia. CFB should never become a default.
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LiptonCB Oct 19, 2016 +12
[deleted] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^0.2843 > [What is this?](https://pastebin.com/64GuVi2F/26511)
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GryphonNumber7 Oct 19, 2016 +8
Oh I'm totally serious CFB should never under any circumstances be made a default please no don't do that no way that would suck.
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okiewxchaser Oct 18, 2016 +118
Please leave /r/cfb out of it
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Onwisconsin5 Oct 18, 2016 +97
There is no sub called /r/cfb. Nobody saw a thing.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +57
/r/CFB? Never heard of it
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lawltech Oct 18, 2016 +26
Its never even existed to my knowledge
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Avengedx Oct 18, 2016 +9
NFL, NBA, and Soccer are the 3 largest by far and large with all over 500k members.
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AlfalfaKnight Oct 18, 2016 +21
Don't forget /r/RuPaulsDragRace. Still time to become a temporary sublistnook for a week before the reunion next week!
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sodypop Oct 18, 2016 +179
Thanks! I think those could all have potential as well. And I totally agree, we definitely checked ahead of time with this one to make sure the moderators are on board and willing to take on the additional traffic.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +14
The first one temporarily added was the r/olympics sub, so I'd say they have it in mind.
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sodypop Oct 18, 2016 +632
Good news! This change is only affecting people visiting from the U.S. and Canada.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +363
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McFlyyouBojo Oct 18, 2016 +11
I know I would be interested in a temporary default sublistnook that informs me of a current sports season or event that I might not know about. People who want to come here for the default sublistnook of baseball can easily just utilize the search function. Inform me of an event I don't know about and subsequently don't know to look up! THAT is what would be awesome.
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LoganPhyve Oct 19, 2016 +5
That is not good news. I don't want more c*** added to my feed I'm not interested in, nor that I had no wish to subscribe to.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +76
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zaviex Oct 19, 2016 +22
No. they asked and r/soccer declined for 2014. Default subs go to shit quickly. Not worth ruining any good subs
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kingofuslesinf0 Oct 18, 2016 +4
Are the defaults normally different by country?
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +109
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ReachFor24 Oct 18, 2016 +150
Do not make /r/cfb a default for bowl season. We really don't need that for a month. Half of the users (me included) are already insufferable. Don't need people who will only be there for one month out of the year.
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Deerscicle Oct 18, 2016 +42
/r/nfl specifically stays off of /r/all because of how terrible the game threads ended up being when people from outside of the sub started commenting.
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burritoxman Oct 19, 2016 +20
DAE think the big 12 should disband?
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ReachFor24 Oct 19, 2016 +3
I'm a WVU fan, so my team is in the Big 12. Big 12 members are making bank without expanding, cause networks (ESPN & FOX) paid to have them not expand. The Grant of Rights, the document keeping the members in the conference, expire in 10 years, so if nothing happens in those 10 years (2025), they will continue to make money until they can jump ship to a better conference. The conference will probably disband, but in 10 years.
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Elephant_Baseball Oct 19, 2016 +46
DO NOT DO THIS FOR THE NBA PLAYOFFS. /r/NBA already suffers a huge decrease in quality during the postseason, it doesn't need to be made any worse with uninformed people from /r/all being forced to see posts.
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downd00t Oct 18, 2016 +55
please dont do that to /r/cfb, its already being brought down by the growing numbers, you will hasten the destruction of a pretty solid community
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +217
Please do not do this to CFB.
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halfstaff Oct 18, 2016 +70
Seconded. The amount of shitposts could be catastrophic.
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Faps_to_Ducks Oct 18, 2016 +62
Thirded. I'm more concerned about amazing community that /r/CFB has being diminished by being made a default. If anything make /r/NFL the default football sub. Edit: Great community besides Florida fans I mean. Go Dawgs!
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The_Decoy Oct 18, 2016 +20
Which sub should I go to to see manningface?
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Faps_to_Ducks Oct 18, 2016 +36
/r/manningface
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The_Decoy Oct 18, 2016 +12
Perfect. Thank you.
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ironwolf1 Oct 19, 2016 +14
/r/NFL doesn't want that shit. I'm pretty sure the mods purposely exclude themselves from /r/all, so no way in hell they would become a default for any amount of time.
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Faps_to_Ducks Oct 19, 2016 +9
Ha, it's like a game of hot potato. You be the default football sub! No you be the default football sub! No you!
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CarlGauss Oct 19, 2016 +10
I'm sure this is way to late to be seen, but I can tell you that /nfl mods would be against being added as a default. /nfl (and i presume many of the other sports sublistnooks) are considered safe spaces against much of the bickering, trolling, and otherwise unfriendly behavior pervasive throughout default sublistnooks. By being a non-default opt-in sublistnook, every subscriber is on /nfl because they love football, and not just because some post appeared on their front page. This promotes quality submissions and discussion, while minimizing trolling. Its not a perfect system, but it is a potent firewall against sublistnook degeneration.
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IneedmyFFAdvice Oct 19, 2016 +3
/r/nfl is the main reason I visit listnook every day. Even the offseason "If your QB was a sandwich..." posts are wonderful. One of the big reasons I love it, is because it's non-default. I know everyone there is either just as obsessed with the game as me, or more.
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wellyesofcourse Oct 19, 2016 +3
Please discuss this with the mods of /r/cfb and /r/nfl. Gameday threads are already a clusterfuck and I know that the mods of at least the /r/nfl community have specifically asked not to trend on /r/all because of the influx of shit posting and non-football related posts that happen because of it. I highly doubt that either community (as a member of each) would enjoy temporary default status during the playoffs.
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wagon13 Oct 19, 2016 +8
Id recommend r/rhockey not only just r/nhl for playoffs.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +5
as someone who browses CFB and NFL this is an awful idea, and no one in the subs would like it.
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firesofpompeii Oct 18, 2016 +39
r/soccer during World Cup/Euros maybe?
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AbideMan Oct 18, 2016 +12
Soccer can be a tough one when it comes to anything other than international tournaments. Obviously the Champions League is huge but it runs the entire year. I think that sub might be fine the way it is, all of the important posts find their way to /r/all anyway.
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Psykodamber Oct 18, 2016 +12
Only American leagues... Feelsbadman
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +97
I understand it for the Olympics because it's one of those huge unifying things which even people who usually have zero interest in sport can get excited about. It also encompasses sports which have no significant following between Olympics, so fans aren't likely to be subscribed to anything already. The football world cup and (in North America) the superbowl might also qualify on that first point- again, huge events which draw in non-fans. Baseball doesn't do that. No-one who isn't already interested in baseball is going to suddenly get into it for the playoffs, and anyone on listnook sufficiently interested in baseball to actually follow it week to week will likely already be subscribed. Who exactly does this help?
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winch25 Oct 19, 2016 +12
I agree. Every sport has its big games and competitions, and I feel that it should only be the events of worldwide interest on the front page. I know nothing about Baseball, and other users will have no interest in the sports I like.
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Tyaust Oct 18, 2016 +7
You should see all the bandwagon Jays fans in Canada the past couple years.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +74
World Chess Championship is coming up, but I don't assume r/chess will be welcoming.
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UnityNooblet Oct 18, 2016 +67
Sure they will, just remember your hijab
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IvyGold Oct 19, 2016 +7
r/Superbowl... Anyhow, I was one of the mods at r/olympics when this happened to us. I thought it worked out very well, but boy oh boy that increase in traffic. I didn't expect that kind of an onslaught.
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spencercross Oct 18, 2016 +30
If you start adding *temporary* defaults that are essentially just rotating through major sports as their seasons come and go, you've essentially added a second *permanent* /r/sports default. Please don't do that.
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unixwizzard Oct 18, 2016 +18
just spitballin' here.. Why not do this with "regular" sublistnooks? Something like a sublistnook of the week.. could be determined different ways.. mods and or users could submit their sub for consideration, or even users could nominate a sublistnook for consideration. some sort of criteria would be needed to be made of course, that would help select a w*****.. that sub, when chosen, becomes a default sublistnook - for a limited time.. 1 or 2 weeks maybe. things like newness (how better to get a new sub to grow than make them a default for a week), number of users, overall contribution quality.. those would be among the qualifications..
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +25
Many (most?) (large majority???) of people don't want their favourite subs to go default because it tends to have a very negative effect on the quality of the content.
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +9
Ruin 'em one week at a time.
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lolwaffles69rofl Oct 18, 2016 +34
The opposite has shown to be true almost unanimously. Nobody wants people like you coming into our game threads and crying about it being on your front page. It's why /r/NFL has opted out of similar scenarios. I don't think I can name a single user on any of the sports subs I frequent that want their sub to be a default. Other than /r/avfc since everyone there including me is delusional
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Tyaust Oct 18, 2016 +8
Us in /r/hockey love hitting /r/all because the reactions of non-fans are usually hilarious. Unfortunately with the change of the /r/all algorithm thanks to a certain other sublistnook we'll never have another John Scott day. Though I definitely see where you're coming from, especially during Superbowl season.
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FIRE_PAGANO Oct 18, 2016 +35
Sports sublistnooks are the best of Listnook. That being said I don't appreciate good communities becoming defaults, although I'm sure there was communication between the /r/baseball mods and the admins. I feel like it only serves to make Listnook as a whole look good, while default status hurts sublistnooks.
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Simmo5150 Oct 18, 2016 +42
/r/afl. One of the highest attended sports in the world. Australias finest sport. Come and have a look!
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MillorTime Oct 19, 2016 +5
I love Aussie Rules Football so much. Shame the only time it seems I can catch it on tv is 6 am on weekdays when I need to get ready for work.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +19
But...the Olympics were an international event/competition. Baseball has nowhere near the same following.
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ZombieAlpacaLips Oct 18, 2016 +563
Is there going to be a rotating calendar of temporarily-default subs? If so, who makes the calendar, and can we see it? Or instead of temporary defaults, how about a dismissable message at the top of the front page? "Recommended sublistnook for the baseball postseason: /r/baseball"
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sodypop Oct 18, 2016 +123
Currently there isn't a calendar as this is more of an experimental thing we did with r/olympics, and now with r/baseball. If we find that these experiments are worthwhile we may consider more of them in the future.
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AssuredlyAThrowAway Oct 18, 2016 +283
In the interest of full disclosure, does listnook inc have any advertiser contracts with MLB?
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sodypop Oct 18, 2016 +207
Nope, we currently do not have any advertising deals with MLB.
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GoodKidSpence Oct 18, 2016 +79
A legal contact is not valid if the concessions are illegal. You can sign that contract, but it is not legally enforceable. edit: that's exactly what you said XD sorry I'm watching baseball.
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IAMA_Draconequus-AMA Oct 19, 2016 +4
Spez is an a******, I hope listnook burns. -- mass edited with redact.dev
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Vakieh Oct 19, 2016 +4
The term is 'severable', and ironically it itself is usually unenforceable, since it prevents the meeting of minds requirement for contracts.
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FlowingSilver Oct 18, 2016 +31
In that case I think the question would have remained unanswered
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TyCooper8 Oct 19, 2016 +12
They wouldn't have responded to the question in that case.
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jon1228 Oct 18, 2016 +348
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
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sodypop Oct 18, 2016 +217
What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on that early?
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wttk Oct 18, 2016 +77
Thing about Walcott is... he's kinda good this season, so he's probably thinking he'll turn the game around.
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m0ondogy Oct 18, 2016 +673
Is this a sign of things to come where the defaults are to be switched out on a semi predictable level like star wars becoming a default around episode 8 time or soccer around the next world cup? Edit: it looks like this was answered above in a less direct way. Partial yes, if you missed it.
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blind616 Oct 18, 2016 +98
> Is this a sign of things to come where the defaults are to be switched out on a semi predictable level like star wars becoming a default around episode 8 time or soccer around the next world cup? That would be the worst thing to happen to listnook. Not sure how it happened regarding Episode 7, but I'd rather avoid the sublistnook until I've seen the movie. Having it switched on by default would leave me prone to spoilers (it's hard enough to go to the internet without being spoiled...) edit: Honestly this makes no sense at all, why would sublistnooks like those be opt-out considering the majority won't care about the sublistnook (not specifically /r/baseball, but also others)? If the fans are interested they'll go to the sublistnook, that's how I do it anyway... edit2: Ok I seem to be misunderstanding some things. 1. The sublistnook will only be on by default for users located in the US and canada 2. This seems to be only for new accounts, not old accounts? It's really not a big deal if it's for new accounts.
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juicemagic Oct 18, 2016 +13
Yes on your edits. Not just new accounts. If you always browse listnook while logged in, and you created the account before the change, you won't see anything from /r/baseball (or any other sub they temporarily make a default sub). BUT if you like to browse listnook not logged in (like some lurkers do), then you will see posts from that sub. If you're concerned because you aren't interested/don't want to see these posts, just go to the sub and double check you aren't subscribed.
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tuturuatu Oct 18, 2016 +9
>or soccer around the next world cup? They made /r/worldcup a temporary default for the last world cup. They were going to make it /r/soccer but had a change of mind at the last moment. This is why the banner at /r/soccer still says "/r/soccer: the back page of the internet"
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PM_PICS_OF_ME_NAKED Oct 18, 2016 +299
This and the shady sponsored post policy make it look like listnook is making a cash grab IMO.
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m0ondogy Oct 18, 2016 +121
That's really what I was hinting at with the Stars Wars thing. It seems like a great way to advertise. Like they could have made PSVR a default for the last few weeks leading up to its launch. More market penetration that way.
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PM_PICS_OF_ME_NAKED Oct 18, 2016 +51
>Like they could have made PSVR a default for the last few weeks leading up to its launch. They'll be doing it soon enough and claim that they thought there was enough interest to warrant it. Listnook is a company, we all get that, they can choose to make money off of their product however they like, but doing things in a shady fashion like this puts a bad taste in my mouth. They are trying to be devious instead of forthright, and that worries me a bit.
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MrDeepAKAballs Oct 19, 2016 +13
I don't know, man. Out of all the monetization schemes I've heard them toy with, this has to be the most palatable to me. Predictable traffic spikes and targeted marketing? Like, that's pretty straight up actually. That's preferable to site wide ads or a subscription fee or least favorable of all, selling user data for to advertisers (which I would be surprised if that isn't already happening to a degree)
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A_plural_singularity Oct 18, 2016 +275
Oh just wait. I've been part of some smaller sub's that had the perfect population to quality ratio. Then it happened. A top 25 post on r/all. Massive influx of shit and people. The purists leave. The sub becomes general. If it doesn't appeal to the masses? Quality true to the spirit posts get downvoated to hell. Discussion ceases. Wading through shitpost karma whores happens. Then all you can think is how it used to be. When it was fun and warming. It WILL happen to you.
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Monsieur_Skeltal Oct 19, 2016 +24
R/dota2 r/learndota2 r/truedota2 r/dota2pubs r/dotacirclejerk True dota 2 is still pretty good, but less so than about 5 months ago when there was a mass amount of people who left the main sub because of too many memes. Learn Dota 2 has had a sharp increase in posts about people whining about bad teammates and coaching ads, both of which are against rules. FeelsBadMan
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +124
Which is why you need authoritarian moderators like at r/askhistorians
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Hero_of_Hyrule Oct 19, 2016 +189
As much as people joke about it, sublistnooks with benevolent but fascist moderators tend to be the most well kept despite numbers.
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MrDeepAKAballs Oct 19, 2016 +66
It's true. /r/askscience is a refreshing breath of spring mountain air.
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imbaczek Oct 19, 2016 +5
Moderators should be wary. There are communities that handled the transition very well (e.g. r/spacex), and some that took a while to figure out (r/science comes to mind). The point is that at some point you have to moderate or the sub becomes a meme gallery.
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +45
It happened to /r/dataisbeautiful
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Yodiddlyyo Oct 19, 2016 +41
"Check out this black and white pie chart I made that breaks down the percentage of farts in my house between me, my cat, and my girlfriend."
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phl_fc Oct 19, 2016 +48
The scary part is that once the playoffs are over the sub switches to offseason-mode. Now we aren't going to be able to tell which shitposts are normal offseason shitposts vs default sub shitposts. I think /r/baseball will be fine though. They have awesome and very active mods that I think can handle the volume.
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TehMulbnief Oct 18, 2016 +508
r/baseball is literally one of my favorite sublistnooks precisely because, for the most part, only sincere baseball fans take the time to visit it. This is probably going to ruin the incredibly high quality-to-shit post ratio.
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Elephant_Baseball Oct 19, 2016 +39
Yeah I've lurked on /r/baseball for a few years and only comment very sparingly. I have too much respect for /r/baseball after spending so much time on /r/NBA.
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Lord_ThunderCunt Oct 19, 2016 +15
With only a couple of weeks left til shit post season!
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_depression Oct 19, 2016 +18
We added a couple more moderators just in the last two weeks specifically for this temporary change, and we all decided as a group that we were willing to try this out and were happy to put even more time into moderating to make sure the sublistnook stays at the same quality it has been.
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Uncle_Reemus Oct 19, 2016 +27
Tell your new mods I'm on my way with my shit talking and my incoherent drunken opinions about something I know nothing about!
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gigimoi Oct 19, 2016 +10
The Cubs did 9/11
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Joliet_Jake_Blues Oct 19, 2016 +3
I can't sub in sports subs for teams I care about because listnookors are way to optimistic about our chances, and I'm a Chicago fan. This offseason people in /r/Chibears thought we were going to the playoffs. Smh. And fellow Cubs fans, I love you and all, but we're never winning a World Series. There's no curse, but we're never going to win in our lifetime. There's no curse preventing man from walking on Pluto, but that shit is never going to happen.
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braves5 Oct 19, 2016 +8
I'm not worried about this having a negative effect on post quality in /r/baseball. Our mods are top notch. I also appreciate that it will only apply to logged out and new users. /u/sodypop I do have a question/suggestion for the admins though. Listnook is miles ahead with it's algorithm for sorting comments, but still pretty bad when it comes to live threads with a high level of participation. My gut reaction to this announcement was that it was going to ruin the live game discussion threads, but if I'm being honest I think it's already a problem. For the wild card games alone there were ~60 new comments per minute, and it's impossible to keep up and have a discussion at that rate. I'd love to be able to sort by the best comments in the last 10 minutes or something similar. Is that something you guys are currently working on? If not, listnook definitely has the right minds to come up with a good solution, and I think all listnook live threads from /r/politics debate threads to GoT live episode discussions could benefit from it. Thanks for all the hard work you guys do :)
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ShAnkZALLMighty Oct 18, 2016 +723
This seems like a bad idea. Everyone's bitching aside, you're going to polute a smaller sub with the general public of people who genuinely don't give a f***. I understand baseball is huge, but it's not Olympics huge and people threw a tantrum about that being default as well.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +45
>This seems like a bad idea. Everyone's bitching aside, you're going to polute a smaller sub with the general public of people who genuinely don't give a f***. To add to this, the larger the sub, the more the common denominator get to decide what to see. If the baseball sublistnook is typically inhabited by h******* fans who have engaging discussions about statistics, players, and strategy, an influx of people who don't really care are going to start posting/upvoting trash content, like "Omg, funny reaction after being struck out!" This will hurt the sub's quality, and there's nothing the old guard can do about it, unless they've got some killer moderators.
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dickgilbert Oct 19, 2016 +4
I was gonna say this. Die hard baseball fans are a, er, special people. Most of them are not the same as other sports fans. I don't know how this will go. I'm subbed to r/baseball, but not frequently involved. They're a special type and I think they should be allowed their habitat.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +7
I'm a mod at /r/baseball and we're very strict on post quality. The only way people could be upvoting posts to the top is from /new, which they wouldn't be doing from the front page. The people who patrol /new are very good about only upvoting good posts and we're very good about removing bad ones. Nothing is going to change, not in two weeks. People are reacting to this as if we were becoming a permanent default.
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ElMangosto Oct 18, 2016 +70
Brilliant point. I can't think of a single sub that would benefit by having a huge influx of (by definition) uninterested parties start participating.
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adityapstar Oct 18, 2016 +10
>a huge influx of (by definition) uninterested parties start participating Why would that happen? According to the post, the vast majority of the people affected will be logged out users, who can't comment or post anyway. I doubt /r/baseball would look any different.
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illegal_deagle Oct 18, 2016 +41
/r/baseball is one of my favorite subs and I feel like I'm about to watch it burn.
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ClarenceThomass Oct 18, 2016 +440
This seems like a terrible idea for the /r/baseball community. It's fairly small and this just invites unwanted participation from trolls and the like.
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aarghj Oct 19, 2016 +111
Not to mention, it's a terrible idea for anyone who doenst give a flying f*** about baseball or any other sport for that matter, and doesn't want that shit defaulted into their sublistnooks. go go gadget RES sublistnook filter.
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onioning Oct 19, 2016 +53
Just for the record, no RES is necessary. You can just unsubscribe.
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sodypop Oct 19, 2016 +27
If you had already changed your subscription set in any way by subscribing or unsubscribing to any sublistnooks then you would not be automatically subscribed.
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nullibicity Oct 18, 2016 +29
"Tonight? Uh, yeah, they're totally going to do it—hard! No one's sexuality will be in question after tonight, let me tell you!"
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Tyaust Oct 18, 2016 +13
Careful now Cleveland, you don't want to waste all your luck in one year, just imagine how long the drought will be with 2 championships.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +8
as a cincinnatian, this is the year I envy the Cleves. You go man, I'm rooting for you guys.
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itouchboobs Oct 19, 2016 +7
Just remember golden state lost with a 3-1 lead.
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there_wreck Oct 19, 2016 +105
Seems like r/baseball doesn't want an influx of folks, and people don't want to see baseball posts if they're not subbed already. Sooo who thought this was a good idea?
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cansjdfsfj Oct 19, 2016 +8
Probably the mods of /r/baseball who agreed to try this experiment?
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palakkadan Oct 18, 2016 +787
Wouldn't those interested in baseball just...subscribe too it? Default subs are ones even lurkers on /r/all can browse. Just my 2¢
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pasaroanth Oct 18, 2016 +22
I'm interested in baseball and watch/listen to probably 90% of Cubs games. Not currently subbed to /r/baseball. There are a great many things I'm interested in that I haven't added to my sub list mainly just because I don't think about it.
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DoctorFrankz Oct 18, 2016 +68
I mean aren't only newly signed up users going to be subscribed to it by default or does it apply to all users?
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palakkadan Oct 18, 2016 +13
>This doesn’t affect users who already have accounts with custom subscriptions >This change primarily affects logged out users visiting from the US and Canada Basically if you're a lurker it is assumed that you care about baseball.
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kodemage Oct 19, 2016 +9
This is for people that don't have accounts man. The rest of us won't see it at all.
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Owlstorm Oct 18, 2016 +160
Sports subs like /r/baseball are too niche for a default, even in their playoffs. For contrast /r/leagueoflegends is having their world championship and has massively more subscribers. Would you want lol content on your front-page?
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +24
This is a unbelievably good point
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baked_ham Oct 18, 2016 +248
This definitely won't lead to more childish threads and fan-based up/down votes. Don't ruin good shit, leave /r/baseball alone.
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Hellknightx Oct 18, 2016 +41
Yeah, this sounds like a hilariously bad idea. Baseball fans don't want their community polluted by front page toxicity, and I have a strong feeling that the average listnookor doesn't care about baseball. This experiment just seems doomed to fail.
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briguy182182 Oct 18, 2016 +13
That's the exact reason /r/nfl took their live game threads off of the front page. Too many random people jumping onto a popular front page thread and cluttering it with garbage.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +12
As if "cluttered with garbage" doesn't describe every sporting event's live thread.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +19
Seriously. I love /r/baseball because it's an escape from all the neverending awfulness that pollutes large sublistnooks. This is a nightmare.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +7
Baseball has nearly 200k subscribers, it's absolutely a large sub.
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adityapstar Oct 18, 2016 +5
> This definitely won't lead to more childish threads and fan-based up/down votes It's not like /r/baseball is a high-quality forum filled with complex discussions about statistics and strategy, it's already got it's fair share of memes, irrelevant tweets circlejerking, etc. Considering this change mainly affects users who are logged out, I highly doubt this would affect /r/baseball at all.
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316nuts Oct 18, 2016 +510
oh good then everyone can watch cubs fans lose their minds if they don't *finally* win the world series
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cha5m Oct 19, 2016 +19
tl;dr: r/baseball will become a temporary default community to increase the commercial viability of listnook
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UWbadgers16 Oct 18, 2016 +82
As long as /r/politics doesn't become a default every time an election is coming up. /r/politics would need a **MASSIVE** overhaul before that could even remotely be considered.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +61
If by "massive overhaul" you mean, "burnt down and we start a new one."
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Suddenly_Depressing_ Oct 19, 2016 +8
Just the first thing, please.
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LongDistanceEjcltr Oct 19, 2016 +24
I realized r/politics has been lost a couple of months ago, so I don't go there, but now that I checked back to see what they're up to these days... wow, it's like parody sublistnook pointing out the biased media coverage... except it's real. /r/Politics is very hard to describe like anything other than an extension of Hillary's campaign. It's the /r/The_Donald of the left (masquerading itself as some unbiased hub for political news... how fitting). I mean just look at this shit: http://i.imgur.com/MmZNTfv.png that is the front page of the sub on a 1080p monitor. Negatively obsessed with Trump... that would be an understatement.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +21
The way American politics works 'every time an election is coming up' is basically all the time.
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hondajvx Oct 18, 2016 +39
Feels like no one from that sub wants this, feels like no one not subbed to it wants this.
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Andy_B_Goode Oct 19, 2016 +9
In the same spirit, can we please add /r/hillaryclinton and /r/The_Donald to the front page for the remainder of the election? ^^Just ^^kidding ^^please ^^don't ^^do ^^this
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XavierVE Oct 18, 2016 +242
So instead of letting people who like baseball subscribe to it, you're making everyone who doesn't give a damn unsubscribe from it. Not too logical there.
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68Cadillac Oct 19, 2016 +42
Hey it's the finals for /r/formula1 right now too. Lets make it a default sub because one person who works at Listnook loves it. Therefore EVERYONE must love it.
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ERROR_ Oct 19, 2016 +15
i feel like the average listnookor would find Formula 1 more interesting than baseball
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kevlarisforevlar Oct 19, 2016 +14
Can we purge some of the garbage default sublistnooks while we're at it?
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AveLucifer Oct 19, 2016 +6
Not really a point. Said subs become garbage by becoming defaults, so all you're doing is making other subs shittier.
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shaggorama Oct 19, 2016 +4
Will you be doing something similar for TV shows? Will /r/ASongOfIceAndFire be made default when the last two episodes are airing? The US election is coming to a close: are you planning on adding /r/hillaryclinton and /r/donald_trump as defaults? Is there a place (sublistnook) where we can go to suggest temporary defaults, or should we just message the main admin inbox? It's an interesting idea, but I think you guys are opening pandora's box here.
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jaychok Oct 18, 2016 +146
And getting rid of r/news? Guess I'm just asking for too much here.
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cy0nknight Oct 18, 2016 +39
How about just hiding all the politics sublistnooks until the election's over?
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dam072000 Oct 18, 2016 +21
Like a nose in allergy season they'll just keep leaking.
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jmf145 Oct 18, 2016 +14
>Or we could just bring back /r/listnook.com Yeah, but that's something the users actually want.
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Hawkize31 Oct 18, 2016 +33
The MLB postseason started 2 weeks ago and ends in less than 2 weeks. Were you guys late implementing this? If not, why add it halfway through the playoffs?
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +77
F*** this shit. If people want to be read r/baseball they can, you know, SUBSCRIBE to that sublistnook.
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TofuTofu Oct 18, 2016 +49
As an avid /r/baseball poster, this is a horrible idea.
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God_Damnit_Nappa Oct 18, 2016 +18
Oh god please no. I don't want to see it flooded by people bitching about baseball.
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AnotherWorthlessBA Oct 18, 2016 +18
Why is listnook doing this? I understand that it doesn't affect most users, but that's not a justification. Supposing the primary purpose is to gather data or continue to test the model of temporary defaults, why baseball and not literally anything else? For instance, why not a sub with global appeal?
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damontoo Oct 19, 2016 +3
Probably because ads targeting US users are worth more. So they're catering to US specific niches. Increasing subs and participation in a US niche sub means more US page views for sale. But that's pure speculation.
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dns7950 Oct 19, 2016 +20
This is a retarded decision. If I wanted to see shit about baseball, i'd subscribe to it. If I don't subscribe to it, I don't want to see it. You want to post a SUGGESTION to subscribe on the front page, then be my guest, but I don't want to be automatically subscribed to bullshit I don't want. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it. This is a terrible idea, and whoever thought this was a good idea is a complete idiot. Why would anybody think it's a good idea to forcefully subscribe a bunch of people with no interest in the sublistnook? Are the admins TRYING to piss off and drive away users? F*** this bullshit.
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Escapist83 Oct 19, 2016 +18
What is this supposed to achieve?
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Joliet_Jake_Blues Oct 19, 2016 +11
Baseball related posts will be seen by more people, and when someone outside Listnook googles baseball, the Listnook baseball posts will rank higher. Driving clicks and ad revenue. (Everything that happens in the world happens because of money.)
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WakkkaFlakaFlame Oct 18, 2016 +62
Yet another /r/Announcement post at 0 points I wonder why
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adriftinanmtc Oct 19, 2016 +32
Because Listnook has made the switch from "community" to "product".
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IcyWhatever Oct 19, 2016 +28
It's always fun to see am experiment fail before it's even begun.
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Haephestus Oct 18, 2016 +11
Could this come in the form of some kind of notification I can accept or decline? Like maybe "There's a baseball thing happening that perhaps you might care about. Would you like to subscribe to /r/baseball? []Yes []No" instead of just doing it? In theory I understand that you're experimenting with adding people to a sub like you did with /r/olympics, but this practice could theoretically be implemented for less-than-desirable purposes--for example automatically subscribing people to /r/the_donald or /r/spacedicks or even /r/gggggg). I don't personally want my newsfeed suddenly including content I don't have any interest in.
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +10
Please don't do this with /r/hockey for our postseason. Please.
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wingnotes Oct 18, 2016 +46
Please don't front-page r/cfb . It's all we have.
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kubutulur Oct 19, 2016 +15
/r/boring should be added too.
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pepperouchau Oct 19, 2016 +5
Default /r/baseballcirclejerk instead so that everyone may enjoy quality Jays content
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +31
Bring back the vote counters
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ryanb6321 Oct 19, 2016 +4
If I wanted to see more shitty baseball posts then I would have already subscribed to it or browsed /r/all. Why should I have to unsubscribe to something I didn't want in the first place?
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Siludin Oct 18, 2016 +25
I disagree with this. Sports are brands, and I don't see Nintendo or Nike or Tesla getting added when they have big new announcements. This comes off as corporatism and I don't know if it's in the spirit of default subs.
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adityapstar Oct 18, 2016 +14
But... why? If someone cares about baseball, they can just go to /r/baseball themselves... Why automatically subscribe new users to that sublistnook?
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[deleted] Oct 19, 2016 +6
So. I've had to unsubscribe to /r/baseball 3 times now. I am a logged in user who has alerted my default list. It keeps coming back up and subscribing me, and 30% of the posts on my front page are baseball. This is f****** stupid.
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the_pissed_off_goose Oct 18, 2016 +43
This is really unnecessary.
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astrodominator Oct 19, 2016 +3
Yah but this isn't really a general interest. I mean everyone can get a kick out of reaction gifs or funny(just kidding) but only baseball fans like baseball. Same as I wouldn't expect you to put game of thrones as a default sub when the show is playing
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parko4 Oct 18, 2016 +20
What a stupid idea. You dumb mods all realize that you'll have to make /r/nfl, /r/hockey, /r/nba and /r/MLS at the bare minimum all defaults as well then for their respective playoffs.
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[deleted] Oct 18, 2016 +28
Ugh. I can see this becoming yet another method of advertising.
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srslywatdafuk Oct 19, 2016 +2
Okay so, say someone makes a new account during this and they like being subscribed to /r/baseball, and they probably would have subscribed regardless of it being added as a temporary default. When the time ends for it being a temporary default, is it automatically removed from his list of subs or does it stay? If it's only temporary, it should be automatically removed, right? And if he wants to keep it, he has to go back and subscribe. If it stays, then it can't be called temporary. Is he going to be notified that the sub will be removed from his list? So that's my question. But this change is overall 0/10 very crappy idea (i've been on listnook for years, just using one of my recently created accounts)
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Mean_Mister_Mustard Oct 18, 2016 +24
Are you going to do the same thing for /r/hockey next spring?
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MisanthropicAtheist Oct 19, 2016 +18
What a f****** retarded action this is. Nobody gives a f*** about baseball. Especially America. God f****** damn this is stupid as anything i've ever seen.
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