To the surprise of literally no one.
Electric planes are doomed to remain novelty items limited to very short routes and “green fuels” are just “compliance fuels”, incredibly expense and in very short supply.
If you want to reduce airline emissions, you reduce the number of flights either through :
\- regulation : like outlawing short routes when alternatives (usually high speed trains) exist
\- market contraction: by increasing ticket prices through taxation.
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xX609s-hartXx5 days ago
+4
I mean, you'd at least expect it to go down a bit with more expensive fuel now...
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hornswoggled1114 days ago
+2
A large universal carbon tax on jet fuel would have the same impact.
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Notre-Dame-Gremlin5 days ago
+4
Yes and multiples airlines are cancelling flights…or going out of business altogether (Spirit in the USA).
Though presumably it won’t last.
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Leverpostei4144 days ago
+2
I don't think that is true. I do think they will be limited to short routes but that might not be a novelty when they become way cheaper
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Notre-Dame-Gremlin4 days ago
+2
Currently what I mean by short route , is REALLY short routes. They are absolutely not able to replace let’s say AIRBUS 320 on regional routes.
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Leverpostei4144 days ago
+1
Sure, they won't outcompete in 5000km routes in any foreseeable future. But a lot of routes are shorter than that, and there are good reasons to belive they will become significantly cheaper and then we go from long routes being less expensive per kilometer to short routes being the cheapest. That could change up the marked.
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Notre-Dame-Gremlin4 days ago
+2
I wasn’t thinking 5000 km routes…I don’t think electric planes could a 500 km flight with a hundred passengers.
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Impossible-Ground-981 day ago
+1
Private jets are mostly short flights and benefit almost no one. They're almost 2% of all plane emissions! We should tax this shit heavily and put it forward replacing the short flighs with train connections. 2% for a tiny portion of people, it's ridiculous.
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imaginary_num6er4 days ago
-1
This is the reason why people who claim Europe will be able to move away from fossils fuels are full of shit.
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Notre-Dame-Gremlin4 days ago
+4
I don’t think such a sweeping statement makes much sense.
Hydrocarbons are used in many industries.
Some easier to displace than others.
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Old_Soc5 days ago
+4
Yeah.. until we find another "greener" propulsion system for airplanes, we're still gonna pump massive amounts of carbon into the air.
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Initial-Return88025 days ago
+3
A small nuclear reaction to spin the turbines?
Edit: Huh I was joking but the US and USSR did attempt it:
> Both the US and Soviet Union experimented with nuclear engines. The goal was to develop bombers capable of staying aloft for weeks.
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Old_Soc5 days ago
+8
Yup... How crazy is that. I kinda miss the wild crazy ideas of the 1950-1960's. They just tried everything and anything.
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konart4 days ago
+1
Not just then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik
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tvtowers5 days ago
Does this include Russia still using coal-burning Soviet era aircraft?
"Russian Minister Says Building Airliner From Scratch Could Take Over 20 Years - The Moscow Times" https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/05/05/russian-minister-says-building-airliner-from-scratch-could-take-over-20-years-a92690
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