Are we the baddies? I was in college during the start of the last middle east invasion by US. At least the bush admin lied and got Congress and allies to approve it. This admin just goes in without even a care.
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Hardly_lollingMar 31, 2026
+353
Trump does it because he is allowed to.
Checks&balances was always a house of cards, and now it is wiped away by relatively small gust of wind.
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[deleted]Mar 31, 2026
+110
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Suspicious_Radio_848Mar 31, 2026
+2
Also the voters put them there, this is on them too.
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Plus-Visit-764Mar 31, 2026
+7
Wrong.
This isn’t going to end because Trump and Republicans want to end now. The ball is in Irans court now, and they get to choose what they want to do now with our economy. Having republicans kick Trump out isn’t going to reverse the clock and save us.
If Iran wants us to suffer, we will suffer. The only way out of this is through force (which means boots on the ground and lives lost) or Iran somehow forgiving us, which we all know they won’t.
This isn’t “liberation day” where he can backtrack tariffs because the market is spooked. Republicans, yet again, have caused our economy to splinter, with little to no regards for us.
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burradasMar 31, 2026
+9
> The only way out of this is through force (which means boots on the ground and lives lost) or Iran somehow forgiving us, which we all know they won’t.
Actually, Iran has made their demands pretty clear, and they're more than reasonable. And given history, they'll be more than willing to negotiate. But there's stuff they won't budge on. They want a guarantee that the US won't attack them again. They want a guarantee that they can pursue their civilian nuclear program in peace. They want to keep their deterrence (missiles). Those are red lines that they're not willing to cross, and those are extremely reasonable. They are also asking for war reparations, which is also extremely reasonable, but I'm sure that can be negotiated away, they know the US will never agree to that. And also lifting sanctions, which again, more than reasonable, but they probably can live with that being denied anyway, since they've been there for decades now.
So Iran is more than ready to end the war. They don't want the war. Their demands are extremely reasonable. The problem is that they look like defeat for the US and Israel, and US and Israel won't be willing to accept that. Not even if you change the people at the top, the US needs to show they come out of the war with something, and they have nothing so far.
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girlnamedJaneMar 31, 2026
+7
You watch. This is the era of malice and malevolence winning. Everything he wants he will get as good people already decided in 2016 to stand idly by
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Plastic-Industry5673Mar 31, 2026
+4
If he’s a Russian asset they have 2 goals:
Either maintain a puppet state of that size which is a large risk
Or
Balkanize the United States
Right now this war leads to balkanization if the fed is too poor to continue holding the states together and one rich state gets tired of suffering for no reason.
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JFConzMar 31, 2026
+78
No, by literally millions of dollars spent by only hundreds of owners all being supported by hundreds more people hoping to be elevated to the owner class to manufacture consent and muddy reality.
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Different_Victory_89Mar 31, 2026
+23
You mean billions?
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DevilahJakeMar 31, 2026
+11
The billions was spent on buying up all the corporations and media so they could consolidate power and wealth while millions was spent bribing and blackmailing politicians
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McGrathsDomestosMar 31, 2026
+2
Plus election spend (supporting both parties).
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NeedNameGeneratorMar 31, 2026
+8
Congressmen are relatively c****.
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Hardly_lollingMar 31, 2026
+5
Sure, ~~bribery~~ large donations do play a huge role in US politics. And unlike countries that are usually deemed corrupt in US it is perfectly legal.
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ribald_jesterMar 31, 2026
+8
took 250 years for the thin veneer of "a system of checks and balances" to be ripped away.
Congress is impotent, mostly doddering elderly getting good federal healthcare, lobbying bribes and insider trading.
Supreme court is run by the Federalists and the Heritage foundation. The ruling on unfettered dark money donations was truly obscene.
The rest? Religious grifters, social media psychopaths, and other mentally damaged people. A few standouts scattered throughout of course, progressives mostly.
The defense budget/military apparatus is an o*** of greed and incompetence. Funneling billions of tax dollars into the coffers of bloated industries that would collapse under their weight it they were forced to compete in the real world.
The few agencies of value, that managed to provide small shreds of service for citizens have been destroyed by doge, and relentless GOP cutbacks.
America - you've been coup'ed.
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LazyDynamiteMar 31, 2026
+5
When you're a star, they let you do it
5
sinfulfngMar 31, 2026
+5
Trump isn’t concerned with concepts like permission or consent
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XSinTrick6666Mar 31, 2026
+18
Checks&balances was purchased by Israel decades ago, but we really should have perked up when GOP went after Int'l Rule of Law w Dumbya's "Hague Invasion Act" (2002), threatening to possibly 'invade' The Hague if they detained our (or Israel's) war criminal(s).
30 Dems voted for that so let's not pretend the rats haven't been circulating in our house for decades...
Blue Tsunami needs to repeal this ASAP.
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TheDevilsAdvokaatMar 31, 2026
+3
Yes. And of course how can you govern if you cannot govern yourselves? And yet for decades the US government has been ignoring its own laws by declaring wars were "police actions" and that kidnappings were "renditions".
There is no rule of law when you can weasel word your way around the laws. Trump is bad but he is following a precedent set by decades of American governments that cannot even govern themselves.
Yes, rats have been in the house for decades.
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Sad_Locksmith_2904Mar 31, 2026
+3
The system was designed with the expectation that men had honor. Trump doesn’t care about honor.
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miklaynMar 31, 2026
+7
If they presume to ignore the constitution, then the constitution is dead, and none are bound by its laws.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, ***Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.*** Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. ***But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.***"
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Hungry_CultureMar 31, 2026
+14
Congress would have approved it anyway. There are enough Democrats that support the US getting involved in the Iran War for Israel and Epstein. The war powers resolution put forward by Ro Khanna and Massie failed in the house because just enough Democrats voted against it and they would have found more votes if they needed it.
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VanceKelleyMar 31, 2026
+2
America had an election in 2024. The federal government today reflects the choice that Americans made in 2024.
Most Americans are racists and/or idiots.
Want a better government? Start building an intelligent, informed, compassionate electorate.
Want more of the same? Allow the electorate to continue to be subjected to massive brainwashing by the a****** billionaires who control most media.
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Inevitable_ButtholeMar 31, 2026
+129
terrorists man
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choochoo_choose_meMar 31, 2026
+45
Some might call them an imminent threat.
Y'all got any more of that... regime change?
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mt6606Mar 31, 2026
+17
You got it baked in as the 2A. It's legal to remove a nutcase. It's actually your duty.
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choochoo_choose_meMar 31, 2026
+9
I'm not American, but I think it's the 25th amendment for removing a nutcase from the white house.
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SirWEMMar 31, 2026
+5
Unfortunately his cabinet would never 25th amendment his demented ass, nor would the Senate convict. While his regime holds the power.
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UnexpectedAnomalyMar 31, 2026
+4
Problem is his whole party is just like him so Vance would take over and then do everything Trump is doing only intelligently. Which would be worse for the world.
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choochoo_choose_meMar 31, 2026
+2
As much as I can't stand Vance, I'd still prefer to see Trump face some consequences, and also I would love to never have to listen to him spout idiotic drivel out of his revolting face a*** again.
2
Hot-Owl-978Mar 31, 2026
+7
lol, true
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magicsonarMar 31, 2026
+41
And just to be clear, this article was written by Robert Kagan, one of the staunchest neocons and architects of the Iraq war. He was a co-founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century and was one of the biggest advocates for American military interventions in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. His wife is Victoria Nuland, one of the main proponents for an aggressive American policy in Ukraine that sought to confront Russia.
In many ways, what are seeing now in West Asia and the Gulf is unintended consequences of failed American strategies not just in the middle east but also in relation to Russia. Trump is just putting the final nails in the coffin and now the neocons are finally seeing the fruits of their labour - which is the accelerated decline of the American empire. You can argue all you want whether the actions the neocons advocated for had the right intentions - the reality is they were strategically disastrous. If China was really America's biggest adversary and competitor, well American foreign policy has done an amazing job of scoring own goals and punching themselves in the face. As Napoleon supposedly once said "Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.’
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We_Are_The_RomansMar 31, 2026
+3
I was astounded when I clicked the link and saw the name in the byline. This is entirely you and your buddies' fault, m***********!
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Particular-Ring5110Mar 31, 2026
+7
Lmao.. a guy like that writing an article like is this hilarious. What so it was fine when they did but now he has a problem? How about this if the war in Iran goes for 10 years then he can get talk otherwise shut up
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underpants-gnomeMar 31, 2026
+10
Our top elected official threatened to destroy power plants and water desalination facilities. We allowed a chainsaw-wielding dipshit billionaire to destroy aid programs that were keeping half a million kids out of starvation. We are definitely the bad guys now.
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angrypookaMar 31, 2026
+7
Rapists don’t ask for permission.
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Money_Percentage_630Mar 31, 2026
+6
Your current leadership isn't capable of a single thought for longer than 12 hrs.
They have won the war, been neogiating, alloes aren't needed, allies are needed, the war is over, etc several times over.
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AshIsGroovyMar 31, 2026
+5
They went in without even a plan. Just bombed the shit out of them till the populace uprises. Regime change will always take boots on the ground. The Iranian regime has had 50 years to prepare for this and they have built a system designed to withstand attacks. Hell they killed tens of thousands of their own people because they were protesting the regime. Their whole goal is to outlast the US, till the political will is gone and this action becomes economically sour. If Trump was going to do this there should have been boots on the ground day one. Not over a month later.
5
Pristine-Ad74Mar 31, 2026
+63
Are you the baddies???? It's concerning you have to ask that. Surely the narrative that you do everything for the greater good wears thin doesn't it. America consistently attacks and destabilises regions. Currently you are the biggest threat to world peace and are on par with Russia and Israel. Your little endeavour is currently affecting everyone on the planet. You are damaging the whole global economy and it's going to ripple into an global recession. Oh yeah and you are killing people but that's pretty standard isn't it. There isn't one country in modern history that even comes close to the amount of people you have slaughtered
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geckodancingMar 31, 2026
+63
>Are you the baddies???? It's concerning you have to ask that
They aren't asking it as a question. They're referencing [this famous sketch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY).
The phrase 'Are we the baddies' is now shorthand for 'We are the baddies and we might as well be wearing skulls on our uniforms'.
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Don_RustMar 31, 2026
+8
add to that the biggest challenge towards fighting climate change.
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SaveDMusicianMar 31, 2026
+4
We are the terrorists. Josephine Guilbeau, former intelligence agent. This is heartbreaking 💔
Source: YouTube https://share.google/AHqH7SROyUJUUSTVO
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veratheneMar 31, 2026
+3
The Bush Administration manufactured consent from the US. The Trump administration doesn’t even bother to do that.
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Particular-Ring5110Mar 31, 2026
+2
Lied. Not manufactured consent just lies
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veratheneMar 31, 2026
+2
Bush and Trump both lied. But only Bush manufactured consent. I’m pointing to an adjacent thing to the lying. Bush built up the support of the American people to invade Iraq by lying. That’s called manufacturing consent. Trump lies continuously but he didn’t manufacture consent for the invasion of Iran, i.e. he didn’t bother building up support from the American people at all.
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lawrencecoolwaterMar 31, 2026
+3
Worse, they f*** everything up with no plan, and leave the adults of the world to pick up pieces and try fix it. And then cry about not being helped. Scummy selfish PoS. Pariah nation
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ashurbanipal420Mar 31, 2026
+2
We've always been. We're just not hiding it anymore and in the stupidest ways possible.
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Upset-Government-856Mar 31, 2026
+2
Yes and your appethetic majority is why.
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RealSuggestion9247Mar 31, 2026
+3
Nor a thought
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TheBeardPlaysMar 31, 2026
+2
Yup, have been for a long long time. Glad you are catching up though.
2
jerpearMar 31, 2026
+110
The greatest achievement of American propaganda is convincing the world that a country with 11 carriers, 5000 nukes and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined is somehow not a threat.
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[deleted]Mar 31, 2026
+5
shelter boat piquant dazzling lock imminent saw recognise nail humor
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fatty8me2Mar 31, 2026
+3
Surely the f-35b’s can take off and land on those, correct?
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GriffinFlashMar 31, 2026
+595
Honestly, you guys are f****** terrifying right now. Just straight up doing whatever to disrupt nations and the entire world and not even hiding it anymore, and for what?! Overthrowing leaders, bombing countries, threats of annexation towards allies. What's next, nukes? This is scary.
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lurkylurkerooMar 31, 2026
+259
I think nukes are 100% on the cards.
You can't tell me that Trump and Kegsbreath aren't itching to press the big bomb go boom button.
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PacmanNZ100Mar 31, 2026
+105
Yep.
Trump either admits they fucked up, will never happen.
Puts boots on the ground.
Drops nukes.
My guess is they take kharg island in an absolute blood bath, then resort to nukes.
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BleachedUnicornBHoleMar 31, 2026
+48
In my mind, it’s going to be invasion of Kharg Island that fails or has heavy casualties. Public opinion goes even more negative and Iran hits desalination plants and oil fields in response. Trump nukes Iran thinking he can save face from doing so.
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PacmanNZ100Mar 31, 2026
+5
Like island hopping works right, we know this.
But this particular island is way way up the straight. He cant sail the fleet through there he might lose it
So it could be taken by paratroopers which would potentially be a disaster depending on troop numbers defending it. An airborne assualt in ww2 on the Japanese islands would've been horrific for example.
But say they take it. It needs supply by air and would be exposed to drones.
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witchofpainMar 31, 2026
+31
That’s what I think. Kharg will
Be disastrous for us. And rather than crawling back home Kegsbreath and Stinky will launch a nuke or 3.
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shinyplantboxMar 31, 2026
+2
They can take the island pretty easily, they just can’t hold it. They’ll be as vulnerable to drone strikes as the ships in the Strait, and then we’ll have the right wingers say that we have to invade the mainland to ‘honor their memory,’ or some shit.
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Bishop084Mar 31, 2026
+43
Trump would do it for no other reason than to get his name in the history books.
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FlashGenMar 31, 2026
+21
What history books? There won’t be anything left.
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Academic_Carrot_4533Mar 31, 2026
+12
We know that, but he doesn’t.
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primax1ukMar 31, 2026
+16
Why'd you think he's making a nuke proof bunker under the East wing ballroom? Funded by himself. He's not leaving peacefully.
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TearsFallWithoutTainMar 31, 2026
+10
...There's already a bunker under the white house mate
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UnexpectedAnomalyMar 31, 2026
+10
Knowing Trump the above ground ballroom is likely built on top of a below ground ballroom attached to the existing bunker. Because even in the apocalypse you need a ballroom.
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Cock_BrokerMar 31, 2026
+2
Trump needs one for his legacy
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witchofpainMar 31, 2026
+68
Yep. I think he will nuke Iran. If he keeps getting smacked with high gas prices, he will do it. There is literally no one to stop him. His first adm General Milley was there to make sure everyone knew that if the order didn’t come from him (Milley) don’t follow through. Now all of them are trumps ball washers. So that guardrail is gone.
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KonnnanMar 31, 2026
+25
Congress could stop this
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Sillet_MignonMar 31, 2026
+42
They support this. Republicans are a legit Christian death cult.
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MikeyLew32Mar 31, 2026
+12
See: Hegseth calling it a holy war to bring on Armageddon.
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3McChickensMar 31, 2026
+3
Some are. Some are opportunists who would lose their seat opposing Trump.
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Sillet_MignonMar 31, 2026
+2
99% are and 1% are fine with the death cult
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Basic_Yam_715Mar 31, 2026
+16
It's a coup...
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choppytehbear1337Mar 31, 2026
+3
That would require 2/3 of them to have a spine.
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hopefeedsthespiritMar 31, 2026
+3
They abdicated their duties. Honestly, they are just as culpable.
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StiffardMar 31, 2026
+6
To anyone reading this comment -- you have to understand that listnookors who write this sort of stuff come here to spiral and bring others down with them. Nothing is impossible, but the number of people involved in actually launching a nuke is not as simple as 'cuz daddy Trump said so.'
The world has been in this position before, and the goodwill, forethought, and bravery of the individual averted disaster.
That is not to say we won't see nukes in our lifetime -- but I am sickened by these comment chains which seem to count on it happening.
That's some pretty unconscionable rhetoric to just be slinging between one another, but go off.
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BoticelliBabyMar 31, 2026
+22
I feel very certain a nuke will happen. Trump wants to do anything shocking, outlandish, and unheard of in modern times. No matter the outcome, nuclear warfare is a historical event and he’s rabid to liquid-cement his name onto anything of historical note. Plus big boom boom big boy ker pow
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InTooManyWaysMar 31, 2026
+13
And we are only 14 months into Shitler’s term. God help us all
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Traditional_Sign4941Mar 31, 2026
+3
Trump had to be talked out of nuking a hurricane in his first term.
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CHSummersMar 31, 2026
+15
I agree that the U.S. is terrifying right now. But, just like during the Vietnam War era, a lot of individual American citizens not only did not vote for the country’s leadership, but are also trying to stop the madness. It’s scary for us, too.
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The_Nice_MarmotMar 31, 2026
+8
Really? What are you guys doing in the face of this utter madness? Because I don’t live there and I didn’t get to vote, but I have to wonder if each day will be the last for the planet. Meanwhile, you guys have a protest every few months and that’s it.
I’ve suggested at least engaging in consumer boycotts and almost to a man, Americans have 50 reasons why they’re not doing it. VERY few of you get how dire this is. God forbid you give up shopping.
There’s a lot of whining about how dangerous protest is. Yeah. No shit. That’s how this goes down, but what I see is Americans cowering in fear and pre-complying with the regime. They complain congress or the Dems aren’t saving them, but they’re acting like scared little rabbits themselves. Nobody is coming to save you. Nobody can.
This is it. Show us the strength and rugged toughness and individualism you’ve been crowing about for decades. The rest of the planet is disgusted because we know that was always a lie you told yourselves. Even those who didn’t vote for Trump are often cut from similar cloth. A country of paper tigers. Step the f*** up.
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Lopsided-Rough-1562Mar 31, 2026
+2
I'm in Canada and because Trump 45 was saying shit about us last term I subbed to this sublistnook to make sure I had my ear to the ground. Like, I don't care about other issues with us politics like the redistricting battle or how somehow Chuck Schumer has a job and does little but capitulate..
I unsubbed about Feb 2021 as it went back to normal and man I wish it had stayed normal. And now that we're in Trump's final term and he no longer has hilariously incompetent people around him like the press guy who was hiding in the bushes, or The Mooch, but rather scary f****** Nazis, I'm just terrified. I live on the West Coast in the direct flight path of any shit should this turn into ww3 and being middle aged I would rather not have to go out and fight because a bunch of f****** idiots voted in an obvious documented grifter conman who also sexually assaulted women (and now it turns out, children).
The United States lost its damned mind and the rest of us are all paying for it.
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crowhopsMar 31, 2026
+3
There's no "us guys" lol. The US is the third most populated country on earth, and there are already entire demographics here who have been resisting the US's white supremacist tyranny since before it was a country. People are organizing all the time and making moves in their local communities and elections where they can have impact, but expecting the entire deeply-divided and geographically separated US to spontaneously coordinate on a level that doesn't just end in mass execution is expecting something that would be the first of it's kind in modern times
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The_Nice_MarmotMar 31, 2026
+6
Zero f****** accountability and you wonder why you are where you are politically. The population that takes no accountability has a leader who does the same.
This is the same tired argument I hear every time. We can’t all unite, so we will sit on our hands. Other countries doing a better and more effective job of protesting your government ought to shame you, but like POTUS, you don’t seem capable of feeling that.
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Suspicious_Radio_848Mar 31, 2026
+3
Same here, I’m so tired of the excuses and “not all of us”. It doesn’t matter anymore and the world is tired of America’s shit. They can make excuses all they want, the old status quo is over and not coming back.
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[deleted]Mar 31, 2026
+8
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lotepMar 31, 2026
+6
Exactly this. No one remembers the Germans who didn't want the Nazis in charge either.
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Beautiful_Welcome_33Mar 31, 2026
+2
Sure they do, lots of folks know about Sophie Scholl
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got-trunksMar 31, 2026
+6
for what? they are lining their pockets to do the bidding of powerful backrooms-character-level cultists and bigots. It can be a bit hard to sort out some of what ideas are from where are pure convergence and which are just tangential requests from individual parties, others are more obvious. at the end of the day they just needed someone with their head this far up their own ass who enough people listen to. Everyone else is just clinging on to do their own personal work, financial, racist, just to promote their podcast, whatever. The whitehouse is part marketing agency now.
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Impossible-Editor908Mar 31, 2026
+326
I’ve said this before elsewhere; I’ve spent my entire life hearing how evil China is and we need to be weary of them lest we all end up speaking Chinese and I’ve spent my entire life watching f****** yankees invading other countries, bombing other countries or otherwise violently meddling in their affairs and all of it obviously (but not until now so blatantly) in aid of capitalism and the control of oil.
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Livie_LovesMar 31, 2026
+94
Yeah not gonna say China handles things correctly, but we Americans should absolutely not be judgingthat shit. We're arguably worse because we're meddling with everyone else and under false pretense a lot of the time...
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barrio-libreMar 31, 2026
+57
People b**** about the Belt & Road initiative, but building a bridge with somewhat shitty financing terms is still better than blowing up the bridge with no terms.
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Impossible-Editor908Mar 31, 2026
+29
We as a species at large could be living it really f****** easy, all of us right now. Yet somehow we’ve all let ourselves become governed by technocrats and eco barons who openly collude against us for their own betterment. How god damn crazy.
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megapillowcaseMar 31, 2026
+2
It’s insane, absolutely insane.
2
Ok_Dentist_9133Mar 31, 2026
+2
Racism does a great job of enforcing this system
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AerhyceMar 31, 2026
+15
Plus the "somewhat shitty financing" is actually just industry standard that everyone does, including the US.
A lot of China criticism is just some vague allusion told to people who don't know how anything works.
"But they're only doing it for profit!!!!"
Yes, and? that's all everyone does. It's the entire foundation of capitalism. Nobody is building hospitals to be nice or to help, they do it to profit from it. The people on the ground aren't being scammed by some debt trap, they know that the hospital is there for profit and they don't mind, because they get healthcare out of it. And Americans with their most expensive healthcare on the planet should really fix their own shit before criticising anyone else.
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RibsNGibsApr 1, 2026
+2
China leading the way with solar panels and renewable energy while the US goes backwards - in a decade or two they'll have fully won the PR war - they'll be the good guys for sure.
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flipflapflupperMar 31, 2026
+27
I’m European and same.
China is a much more stable partner at this point. At least they’re rational. I don’t agree with a lot of things they do, but at least they’re aren’t f****** up other countries just because.
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SminahinMar 31, 2026
+18
China is 100% the most responsible world superpower right now. Obviously no idea if that'll still be true in the future when China is the dominant, unchallenged superpower and we're fading. Maybe they'll go full us. But for now, they're winning the science war, the culture war, and the diplomacy war fair and square. Because for the last \~20 years, it's like the US was winning a Civ game and someone decided to let their little kids take turns playing instead. Because our general foreign policy the entire 21st century has been straight nutso.
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FallouttgrrlMar 31, 2026
+76
Superpower *for now*
We're rapidly trying to dismantle that, it seems.
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bagofodourMar 31, 2026
+40
First - alienate all your geopolitical allies.
Second - unite all your enemies around the world.
Third - create fictional enemies within the country.
Fourth - declare yourself king in order to "protect" your people from fictional internal enemies and the newly united external enemy front
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iyamwhatiyam8000Mar 31, 2026
+81
It is a rogue, dysfunctional nuclear armed failed state under the control of a crazed super-criminal.
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Starscream147Mar 31, 2026
+6
Avengers, assemble…
😭
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TuffGrittsMar 31, 2026
+107
You, the media, have no right to say this. The media has downplayed/normalized his behavior
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Samcc42Mar 31, 2026
+67
I’m with you in terms of sentiment, but The Atlantic is perhaps a poor target.
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SonicZephyrMar 31, 2026
+7
It's actually one of the best targets.
The Atlantic loves to play enlightened centrist while blaming everything on democrats and the woke.
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ThuraashMar 31, 2026
+7
What are you talking about? The Atlantic is one of the most consistently progressive publications in the country. They just also call bullshit in the progressive camp when they see it.
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SonicZephyrMar 31, 2026
+8
If you really believe that, then I'm starting to understand why your the USA is like this
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Ragerik2Mar 31, 2026
+6
The editor in chief said that settler colonialism is a concept used to further antisemitism against Israel - i think that gives you a good idea that they are hardly 'progressive', if being progressive means condemning the destruction and murder of peoples livelihoods in Gaza and the West Bank consistent with post ww2 humanitarian standards. They are imperialist and supremacist media which masquerades as woke when it suits them. Powell Jobs is also Ghislaines bestie - I wish I was making that up.
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xXxT4xP4y3R_401kxXxMar 31, 2026
+3
No! At IDF guard Jeffrey Goldberg's *The Atlantic*?! I refuse to believe it.
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xXxT4xP4y3R_401kxXxMar 31, 2026
+6
The author of this particular piece, Robert Kagan, is a lifelong neoconservative, particularly influential in the Bush administration. He's one of those never trump republicans. Given neocons' track record in, oh all modern history, people like Kagan here explicitly paved the way for America to be a rogue superpower; Kagan is just whiney that it's being done without his precious pretenses. The man adores imperialism, he just doesn't want it to appear distasteful.
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TheRopeWalkMar 31, 2026
+11
When’s the last time you disengaged in anything to do with the Redhats ? It’s everyone’s job to distance themselves from r*** apologists. They should be pariahs in every walk of life.
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Single-Refuse174Mar 31, 2026
+16
I stopped speaking to my entire family man.
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curiousthoughts20Mar 31, 2026
+47
The United States is basically a shitty, backwards version of the Empire from Star Wars.
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ExxInferisMar 31, 2026
+28
Imagining the Imperial March theme, only played through a kazoo.
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RocketsAreRadMar 31, 2026
+9
Absolute gold, well done
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willuleavemealonenowMar 31, 2026
+2
Banjo
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meryl_gearMar 31, 2026
+2
For the south
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Niceguy955Mar 31, 2026
+10
The US always was a rogue superpower. Look at most of the post WW2 history. The regime changes, meddling, useless wars, bombing campaigns.
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AgnosMar 31, 2026
+58
Always was but we cared about the appearances...
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d0ntst0pmeMar 31, 2026
+6
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀
*"Always has been."*
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ChrissWayneMar 31, 2026
+93
I don’t know why you still pretend it wasn’t always like that. America was always evil, seems like you don’t know your own history
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Floreat_democratiaMar 31, 2026
+9
\> I don’t know why you still pretend it wasn’t always like that. America was always evil, seems like you don’t know your own history
Look, I only came to this realization a year ago. I think most Americans like myself are completely brainwashed by our culture. But once you see it, you can't unsee it. For me, the last straw was when I was reading about American culture and foreign policy in the 1880s. That's when a lightning bolt hit me in the back of the head. Almost nothing has changed in a 140 years.
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ChrissWayneMar 31, 2026
+4
You know what, you earned my respect cause it’s the first time ever that an American person gave an somehow satisfying answer, don’t know how to phrase it better. There’s one thing that really bugs me at the moment, even the left side of your country has the audacity to play the victim all the time. It’s true you were it for a while but the real victims are 180 little girls that never will experience another day, 360 parents that are devastated cause they never will see their daughters again and many more who lost their lives or family members in a completely bat shit crazy war that doesn’t have any purpose than covering up what everyone knows already. It’s so fuxking saddening how self centered American people are, you can at least live another day, no matter how fucked up your situation is right now. It’s not only the MAGAts who brought this nightmare to other countries, it’s every American that didn’t vote or tried to prevent it. We all know that not every American is a bad person but you make it hard for us to feel sympathy when you act like your the victims and not all the innocent people that got dragged into this and every other unnecessary war before. But still I’m aware that you got tricked into believing that you’re in the right side of history, like the vet that screamed at George bush a few years ago cause he lied about Iraq and many of his friends died over there. Thinking about him always gives me chills. But even with the thought you were right your treatment of the people you attacked was extremely cruel, Guantanamo Bay shouldn’t have existed. I know two German soldiers who served along your army in Afghanistan and what they told about American soldiers was so extremely cruel. One of them will never recover from this, he became an alcoholic cause he saw a bunch of children burning to dead, screaming for their lives, children are not the enemy. Thinking about this twists my stomach and I could cry right now, for them and for what our world has become or maybe always was and will be, I don’t know
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ilir_kycbMar 31, 2026
+4
> I don’t know why you still pretend it wasn’t always like that. America was always evil, seems like you don’t know your own history
Yes, it's absurd how obvious that should actually be.
No country or society/culture has brought more death or misery to the world than US America that is just a fact:
[American exceptionalism on trial (Endless Holocausts reviewed in 'Covert Action') - Monthly Review](https://monthlyreview.org/american-exceptionalism-on-trial-endless-holocausts-reviewed-in-covert-action/)
> A new book by David Michael Smith, _[Endless Holocausts](https://monthlyreview.org/product/endless-holocausts/): Mass Death in the History of the United States Empire_ (New York: Monthly Review Press, 2023), estimated that the U.S. empire is responsible, or shares responsibility, for close to 300 million deaths.
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ChrissWayneMar 31, 2026
+3
It was fucked up as soon as Europeans arrived and the worst thing is that natives and black people suffer the consequences till today. I made a short summary which isn’t even the complete timeline, you can literally make a timeline from arrival till today with all the atrocities that America brought over the world. There’s not a single year without some really really fucked up stuff happening. 300 million is insane and it’s brushed off like it wasn’t that bad by so many people. I sometimes wonder if there would have been a single terrorist attack without their concept of „foreign politics“. It’s hard to believe that 9/11 would have happened if America wasn’t like that, what comes around goes around they say but refuse to recognize that it was them who started all of this. I’m from Germany and thought a lot about the atrocities that happened here, I really tried to understand why all of this happened and what my role is in this. There’s a very big misconception about this in our country too and some people talk about guilt culture but that only means that they didn’t understand what they role is. It’s not about feeling guilty, the job of younger generations is to recognize the evils that happened and to prevent it from happening again with fighting them. It’s so simple but so important, if American people would start to understand this and to fulfill their role, we could build a so much better world for future generations and for ourselves but a lot of people just don’t get it, they think they should feel guilty for things they didn’t do and that’s the biggest mistake in history.
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RedditTrespasserMar 31, 2026
+22
Many of us do.
I know it’s a lot to ask, but please don’t hate my countrymen. At least, not all of us.
You have to understand that our culture has been hijacked by an uber-rich class of oligarchs that has been destroying our education on purpose for about 50 years.
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JohnnyDDoeMar 31, 2026
+12
If you think 50 years is the cutoff the he’s right.
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feenicksMar 31, 2026
+3
It's getting increasingly difficult to be honest.
It goes against almost everything i rationally and logically believe in... but emotionally it is getting really bloody difficult to not just want to write you all off.
I have to make a concerted effort to remind myself of the USians I like, and of the good work many good people there are doing to oppose things, and remind myself of the glass house i live in myself and the historical circumstances that have led to this. But seriously, the longer this clown runs unchecked, the harder it is.
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ilir_kycbMar 31, 2026
+3
>many good people there are doing to oppose things
Many?
If you’re being unusually optimistic, I’d estimate that perhaps 5% of Americans are anti-capitalists and anti-imperialists.
The remaining 95% are liberals or fascists.
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feenicksApr 1, 2026
+2
I don't disagree with you :-(
I'm trying very hard not to write off the whole population because i have friends and other people i know who are indeed putting themselves on the line and dont like to lump them into the rest of the populace, but yeah, to be brutally honest you arent wrong
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mywifeletsmeredditMar 31, 2026
+10
As far as the rest of the world can observe; Trump has House, Senate, SCOTUS, and President. You represent a minority in America, so unfortunately don't get to speak on behalf of her anymore.
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LunLocraMar 31, 2026
+12
It wasn't a rogue superpower when it was invading and plundering Iraq in 2003 or Vietnam during the Cold War or Central American countries during and even before the Cold War? Or supporting fascist dictatorships and genocides in Guatemala (200 thousand civilian deaths), Salvador (70 thousand), Nicaragua, Peru, Chile, Argentina (30 thousand), Paraguay, Indonesia (500 thousand), among others? Or threatening to nuke India in 1971 when it was going to stop Pakistan's junta (US ally) from stopping genocide in Bangladesh? Or supporting brutal dictatorships of the Persian Gulf for decades, or supporting Israeli ethnic cleansing for decades, or droning thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Or arming both sides of the Iraq-Iran war which kiled a million people, or arming Khmer Rouge in the 80s, leading to the post-genocide war that killed 200,000 Cambodians and Vietnamese? Or embargoing Cuba until today and Vietnam until 1994, or trying to blackmail and force various countries across the world to submit to the US-based global economic regime or to the US corporate interests?
US has been militarist and expansionist empire for all its history - first spending a century conquering, opressing and sometimes genociding Native Americans, then spreading its military interventions to Central America, Caribbean and the Philippines, and then to the entire world. Donald Trump has done a great positive contribution to the humanity by fully unmasking that historical process and making many people inside and outside the US finally realize the predatory nature of the US foreign policy.
Whatever the future brings you can't convince me not to fight for the "multipolar world" that is so dreaded by the US editorials. F*** I am from Poland, one of the most pro-American countries in the globe until recently, and even we start having enough of it. China has spent decades being cruel "only" to its own dissidents, Uighurs, Tibetans and Taiwan; it has a long way to go before it matches the US scope of destruction, and if it does then the world should fight back. But the "benevolent" US imperialism is absolutely not worth it - not even to the American citizens who pay for 800bln military complex and capitalist interests instead of a decent healthcare.
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feenicksMar 31, 2026
+4
well said
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SuperSatanOverdriveMar 31, 2026
+5
Yeah, the US have had sucky foreign policies in the past - but ever since they started drinking Trump's koolaid, it's been bottom of the barrel. Not one ounce of decency from that administration. Electing the b****** a second time is just adding insult to injury.
Extra frustrating when it's obvious that the US is running itself into the ground by doing this as well. That soft power was giving them reach and influence all over the world. No nobody trusts that a deal with the US won't leave you with a dagger in the back two seconds later.
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pinkfootthegooseMar 31, 2026
+3
Here's the thing. It won't be a superpower for long because corruption makes things fall from the inside. The military will get more incompetent and ineffective as high position require political loyalty instead of actual competence. The same for economics as we are already seeing.
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Opening_PizzaMar 31, 2026
+3
Also, the last 25 years. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/15/war-on-terror-911-deaths-afghanistan-iraq/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/15/war-on-terror-911-deaths-afghanistan-iraq/)
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NewSauerKrausMar 31, 2026
+7
Now?
Lol. Lmao, even.
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ZardotabMar 31, 2026
+2
Somebody forgot about the Bush Wars. Our Constitution needs to defang the President; they keep abusing their blank checks.
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Fastluck83Mar 31, 2026
+17
Aw, cut them some slack. You can't expect people who can find neither Ukraine nor Iran on a map to understand and navigate the complex web of international relations.
They are good at other things. Pete, for example, can do 100 push-ups and then chug down the whole beer bong in one go. That's super cool, right?
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JohnnyDDoeMar 31, 2026
+3
Steve also drives a big car and has a big pool
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Hot-Owl-978Mar 31, 2026
+6
This is not new. Ever since Trump we've gotten tremendously worse than before
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RLewis8888Mar 31, 2026
+6
On the positive side, Trump has united NATO and much of the world -against the US.
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LorenzoDivincenzoMar 31, 2026
+13
Every country that's not predominantly white or a vassal like Japan considers the US the world's greatest terrorists
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MaeronTargaryenMar 31, 2026
+2
Now?
2
ging_ging_Mar 31, 2026
+2
Now?
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RamerhanMar 31, 2026
+2
Now?
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Lopsided_Speaker_553Mar 31, 2026
+2
Destroying the economy is the end-goal so the Epstein class can buy everything for pennies on the dollar. Then they’ll own everything.
It’s a damn shame the world economy is so closely tied to the US, else it would just be karma.
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Red_Wing-GrimThugMar 31, 2026
+2
I cant wait til the world places sanctions on us 🤦♂️
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rarsamxMar 31, 2026
+2
Stop the delusion.
It has been a rogue power from the beginning.
They stole half of their territory from Mexico. They've toppled countless governments, assassinated democratically elected chiefs of government, supported brutal dictatorships just to advance their economic interests.
The only difference in international policy between Obama and Trump is that Trump doesn't overtly as a vulgar loudmouth and Obama did it behind closed doors in war rooms.
The other difference is that Obama was good for the economy and Trump is aiming to bankrupt the world, not just the USA.
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SegaTapeMar 31, 2026
+2
International law has never really applied to the US but we've usually tried to at least keep up appearances
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thejoshwhiteMar 31, 2026
+7
America's power is derived from luck and like most people who benefit from luck, Americans cannot admit it. The world is dealing with the response to that cognitive dissonance.
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CrimsonHereticMar 31, 2026
+4
Just now? It's been like this for decades.
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Kawa46beMar 31, 2026
+2
Yes but now they also decided they have to many allies so they want turn complete EU against them.
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dreaganusafMar 31, 2026
+3
Yeah thanks to 🍊💩 Pedo guy, we do war crimes now at-will.
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plastic_fortressMar 31, 2026
+2
Always has been
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Red-PerilMar 31, 2026
+3
Given the shit the CIA and the US government has been involved in over the years, it seems to me that the US has ALWAYS been a rogue superpower, it’s just that now the “civilised” façade has slipped and the current shitshow of a government is simply a lot more blatant about it.
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TheDwellingHeartMar 31, 2026
+5
USA are definitely the bad guys. This war serves no one except the elite and Trump himself.
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ElderSmackJackMar 31, 2026
+5
It doesn’t even serve the elites and it makes Trump look worse. It doesn’t serve anyone.
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getbent9977Mar 31, 2026
+2
Yeah this one is pure Trump and his goons trying to look tough after their venture into Venezuela.
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snasna102Mar 31, 2026
+3
Now? Like just now?
Or are we at a point where the media literally cannot pussyfoot their way around the truth anymore?
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ElderSmackJackMar 31, 2026
+3
Yes. Now.
God I’m over the “the media bad” takes. They’ve been screaming warnings for years. That they haven’t is Listnook fiction.
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clearcoat_benMar 31, 2026
+2
Who would have guessed that a country literally built by slavery on top of genocide, that claimed dominion over a whole f****** hemisphere, and then enforced a specific energy trade at the point of the gun would go rogue!?
I wish I had been this disillusioned 23 years ago, but internalized racism and desire to prove "American ness" does weird things.
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Sioux_HustlerMar 31, 2026
+2
\*The United States
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tinticredMar 31, 2026
+1
"Now"?
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wdomeikaMar 31, 2026
+2
Wait. I thought everyone thought our country is hot?
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olivicmicMar 31, 2026
+3
The Atlantic decrying the misuse of the violence machine they helped build.
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CozyBlueCacaoFireMar 31, 2026
+3
Has it ever been anything else?
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Disastrous-Ad1334Mar 31, 2026
+3
No
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ElderSmackJackMar 31, 2026
+3
Yes.
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AngryPoliMar 31, 2026
+1
Now?
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J_Class_FordMar 31, 2026
+1
You mean like the series Generation Kill.
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DarkChadoMar 31, 2026
+1
This is not so much about foreign politics, buy more about amassing wealth and permanent power.
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Desperate_Object_677Mar 31, 2026
+1
now?
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GazelleDelicious3135Mar 31, 2026
+1
Trump gets bored and we will all suffer the consequences. Do what you can as soon as you can, US citizens.
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Phrei_BahkRhubzMar 31, 2026
+1
Don't call us that. Sounds too cool.
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chowderbagsMar 31, 2026
+1
Don't worry. Trump's doing his best to stop that.
By making sure that America is no longer a superpower.
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ynotfosterMar 31, 2026
+1
He's rogue within the US too, look at what he did to the Whitehouse.
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clickmagnetMar 31, 2026
+1
Don’t worry, when the economy collapses America will just be a rogue.
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nlewis4Mar 31, 2026
+1
I am surprised that the rest of the world doesn't refer to this country as being under occupation
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ShadeauxmarieMar 31, 2026
+1
Are we still a “Superpower?”
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1iIiii11IIiI1i1i11iIMar 31, 2026
+1
Rogue superpower...so a supervillain. Orange Lantern? Orange and powered by greed is the lore for that part of the Green Lantern mythos, so it's pretty apropos.
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l0st1nP4r4d1ceMar 31, 2026
+1
And no one gave a shit.
I'd be surprised if the rest of the world does not treat the US like the US treats the rest of the world.
We'd deserve all of it.
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Sea-JoaquinMar 31, 2026
+1
Epstein trials please
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Ryan1980123Mar 31, 2026
+1
for how much longer?
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frozenhawaiianMar 31, 2026
+1
Let’s be honest with ourselves. The US has been a rouge superpower for a long time now….
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