American Heart Association urges people to favor plant-based proteins, replace full fat dairy

It'd be political suicide to even joke about doing something like this, but I wonder what would happen to those prices if we removed subsidies for animal products and let the free market that we all love so much decide.

Lentils aren't the same as beef but they are c**** and savory.

But RFK told me I could just eat liver every day if I can't afford a porter house. (I wish I was joking) (Don't eat liver every day; you'll die of Vitamin A toxicity)

Actual truth.

Right now I go for whatever is cheapest. Used to be that ground turkey was c****, now it's double the price of ground beef in my store.

Just like how gas prices are encouraging more people to switch to EV now

I feel like this won't change anyones minds unfortunately. My dad has heart issues and no way he would eat plant based . I've been vegan almost 10 years and doesn't get why . For the planet and health benefits.

The actual guidelines themselves are pretty circumspect about dairy. I’m a little surprised that Reuters chose to emphasize that part, I think just because the average American would connect with it. To quote from the AHA: “The potential benefits of low-fat and fat-free dairy products compared with full-fat dairy products are not without controversy and continue to be debated … conclusions could not be drawn about the relationship between higher-fat dairy and lower-fat dairy on blood lipids, blood pressure, and CVD mortality because of inadequate evidence … Given the available evidence, it would be prudent at this time to continue prior guidance to replace major sources of saturated fat, including dairy fat, with sources of unsaturated fat and to choose nonfat or low-fat dairy products.” https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000001435 It’s not new advice, it’s not strong advice, it’s just their best read of the available science. The red meat stuff has a much stronger backing IMO.

I'm not going to have enough in my 401k to live longer

This made me chuckle and think of a joke I have where I was being held up and the guy threatened me with a slow and painful death, to which I replied “so you’re just gonna let me keep living?!”.

Ray, when your therapist asks you if you've ever had suicidal thoughts, you say NO!

Beer is plant based 

I really like oat milk in my espresso drinks but the $1 upcharge at coffee shops frustrates me (I drink my drip coffee at home black) 

I prefer the flavor of oat milk in coffee. No other reason for me.

Peanut butter is more a fat source.

Oat milk tastes a little... oaty. I find that almond milk is milder and does the job.

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also oat milk uses the least amount of water to process than ANY milk (nut or dairy). It’s truly what i would define as “guilt free” because it meets so many morals. And if it’s expensive, it’s so easy to make yourself!! 

There are also easy ways to make tofu great. Making crispy pan fried marinated tofu is super easy.

Best you can do is the middle ground, sniffing cocaine off public toilet seats

Don't forget about the raccoon p****

Well you see, science is opening to changing its mind when given new information. This means science is wrong all the time. The dead bear guy is never wrong. People who hate on the bear guy need to realize that both sides are bad in their own way.

Yup especially for us trying to gain muscle mass, Greek yogurt breakfasts are a must

I really wish I liked Greek yogurt, but man it’s so…chalky? Idk what I’m doing wrong. :(

I love full fat Greek but something about plain fat free delights me and it's my socially acceptable sour cream product. (as in people treat you weird for just eating sour cream for some reason.)

My dad said things like that until he needed his first bypass operation. Then he realized that dying of heart disease is painful.  Unfortunately he is a trumper, so other types of trash started leaving his mouth around 2016. 

This is what conservatives thought Rage Against the Machine was singing about

Yeah, none of this limp-wristed clutching of the chest, nor the whimpering tone in the agonal breathing from me. There is going to be so much MYO in my myocardial infarction that my elevated ST segment is only gonna pale compared to how I elevate my weights in the gym. The vascular surgeon won't be able to muscle aside my hard plaque to inflate my stent in the coronary artery. Manliest death EVER.

I know this isn't what you meant but I LIKE CHEESE AND I'M NOT SORRY would be the funniest culture war ever.

I’m not even kidding, if you quit dairy products long enough, it’s starts to taste weird.

> You will pry my cheese out of my cold dead *~~hands~~* arteries I kid. Cheese is amazing.

goat athlete Djokovic is plant based

Tofu is magical because you can make it taste like basically anything. I ate a lot of it when I was in college, there was a stir fry place in the dining hall next to my dorm, my meal plan covered it which was such a life/money saver as a severely broke student.

Tried it once…besides the allergic reaction it wasn't half bad for a few seconds. I hate how political food is now because sometimes people take my food choices to be political instead of it being me trying to avoid breaking out in hives and shitting my pants.

Tofu is finally clicking for me. Smash it up into little bits, lightly toast in a pan with a little bit of oil, and it's like ground chicken. Excellent tacos Best is it's like 4 pounds for 7 bucks and it keeps in the fridge for months

And lentils. Not plain but if you add them to stuff they can give food a very meaty flavor.

My wife is vegan. I do all the cooking. I've learned to prepare tofu, mushrooms, and lentils and they're delicious and c****. Like super c****.

I made a mushroom and asparagus stroganoff the other week and it was so close to a beef stroganoff, it was crazy. Like you could tell there wasn't beef if you sat and thought about it, but it definitely wasn't the first thing to notice about it.

The French eat more butter than anyone, and they've had the lowest rates of heart disease in the world for decades.

The almighty dollar

I think the news media gets more clicks by emphasizing very specific diets but it's in the context of people failing not shoveling salt and sugar on a day to day basis. AHA's guidance of avoiding excessive sugar and salt is much more relevant to Americans but it's "boring" and people have tuned it out.

Yea exactly, I prep most of my own meals and fast food for me these days is a california roll. I figure I eat so little fat I can have real butter for my breakfast and cream for my coffee.

step dad has serious heart disease issues but still eats pigs head and other crazy high cholesterol foods. Mom tried switching him to healthier and he kept saying, "wheres the beef" and just ate out more. Some people just dont care lol

I mean while it’s anecdotal, I’m in a family that has probably 2/3rd considered overweight, yet the 3 people with heart related disease/issues, 2 of whom have passed from them, they were definitely along the leanest and not considered overweight. All 3 even are not genetically related. My grandfather, tall and lean who would walk multiple kilometers a day, an aunt through marriage who died at 48 and had probably never been overweight in her life, and an uncle through marriage who has had to pay attention to all this sort of stuff since I was a small child, and has always been regular sized compared to my family of large giants who all probably qualify as overweight, yet the only death is from a drug overdose and old age. We all know obesity is bad but pretending the issues it exacerbates don’t affect anyone it’s ignorant and dangerous.

Reality has no bias here. No amount of saturated fat is good. Shaming "fat people" is foolish here because plenty of skinny Americans get heart disease. The job of the AHA is to point to the causes and risks.

I think you meant no reason to have a bucket of milk in your coffee?

that's awesome so you no longer have CHF?

Happy to hear that. Went vegan 5 years ago and I’ve never felt better.

Same. Been vegan for six years now. I do annual blood tests and have watched my cholesterol drop and testosterone increase over that time. Yet i still have uninformed assholes tell me about how tofu will make you grow t***. I eat that shit for most meals.