AOC vows to vote against all military aid to Israel, including Iron Dome funding

> The advantage NATO allies do receive is protection from the US military through article five, And in turn, among other things, the US gets to have its military bases practically anywhere it wants. Which for some reason Trump seems to overlook the value of. Then there's the intelligence sharing etc. The US gets the most out of the deal, so if they pay a little more, then big whoop.

considering the shit that's already come out, no chance it's just piss pics.

Why not both?

ya'll are giving Trump too much credit, he doesn't need to be blackmailed this hard to be manipulated into something stupid

Could it be Epstein sold videos of Trump to Putin and Netanyahu?

It’s not piss pics. Is teenage snuff film

Fun fact: I worked at the nightclub The Act, where Trump was peed on in public. They just don't allow photos in the club and so it's not well documented. I truly feel this is more than pee tapes... and I hope they leak them.

~~settlers~~ criminal home thieves

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Requiring them to get a job is antisemitic! American taxpayers can just work a bit harder to support more settlers.

Our final aid package should be a box of bootstraps

What, you don't think intimidating, harassing and assaulting people is a job? That shit is hard work.

Or the super-jews who don’t have to fight because they believe in god harder than others

As a vet… I completely agree. I was completely aware of it while I was in and actually thought it was kind of funny. Like America’s big open secret. It’s not just a jobs program- it’s an upside down version of Roosevelt’s Civil Service Program. While that program gave money to projects that directly benefited Americans (eg the TVA), this just goes into a slush fund for ‘defense’. Defense from what? But governors (esp in red states) love it, because it brings money to the state and looks patriotic with absolutely no effort. And dumb red voters buy into it without question. Even though I know it’s impossible. I deeply wish people would see it for what it is and reallocate the money to all those things communities really need: education, healthcare, smart infrastructure, and green energy. Boeing: we’ll let you have our bottomless defense money when you can pry it from our cold dead hands.

We should really be replacing the military jobs program with civil infrastructure jobs programs.

It's also the most socialist organization in government. The amount of members I've met who understand that, or what socialism actually is, can be counted on one finger.

Our latest military budget was $839 billion. It’s closer to a trillion than half a trillion. Yeah it’s awful.

I was in the military for way too long, every time there was a presidential election I hoped that the republican lost.

We haven't. Trump cut milllions of beneficial grants and programs that helped Americans, but we saw no benefit from that whatsoever. The deficit increased massively and by extension the debt under Trump 2.0. In fact, Trump is now responsible for around 30 percent of all the debt the US has accumulated in history.

They don’t care, they keep spreading the lie no matter how many times it’s corrected. As if there aren’t enough true things to be critical of them for.

All aid, Israel should receive NOTHING

This would require a spine.

It will be spun as anti-Semitism. Since it hurts blue votes, it will actually get media coverage. Still agree that they really should.

My partner has been forced into sex work to pay for medical bills because Anthem keeps denying treatment. Plus none of the PTs we need even take insurance anymore because they have to spend so much time and $$ fighting. You have no idea how f****** furious I am every single day that my government is willing to fund this madness instead of helping my family. Triple word score because I have a degree in ME studies focusing on this, have lived in the region, and still regularly read the Times of Israel. So I know all the deviant Nazi shit my party prioritizes funding over saving us.

No, DSA members pressuring her to earn their endorsement worked. This happened at a NYC-DSA endorsement forum last night, the context being the national DSA organization severed its ties with AOC in 2024 over her waffling on Israel.

Is it online bullying or is it applying political pressure?

Yes, in its best possible use case - keeping politicians aligned with their constituents positions

I can't wait when 2028 rolls around and this sub gets filled to the brim with bots pushing whoever is the establishment pick. You can just see the talking points that will be coming up again and again and this is one of them.

She did voted for the iron dome.

I don't even think that is an argument; it is just a fact. The issue with the law is that when it is applied asymmetrically by those with the power to enforce it, it is no longer truly law.

Don’t ever listen to someone who says they’ll behave if you disarm. A disease never tells you what medicine you should take

100% every dollar given for "defensive" weapons frees up dollars to take offensive actions. When one has to take a risk-assessment of said offensive actions - having Iron Dome to allow you to offensively violate international law and strike with impunity makes it much more likely the "defended" entity will take advantage of their situation to strike offensively and violate international law. Take away Iron Dome and you greatly re-balance the risk-assessment.

Exactly. Also, they're taking the military "aid" and using it to try and ethnically cleanse southern Lebanon. F*** that shit.

Dragged? Your government leapt in head first. If the US hadn't got involved we wouldn't be having issues with critical global infrastructure being targeted.

israel should be forced to play nice too to its neighbors too. they all just have to get along!

On the contrary, Israel would be MUCH more aggressive if they didn’t have the ability to block those rockets. If they were regularly landing and killing civilians Israel would have no choice but to counter much more aggressively to stop the rocket threat.

This is the dumbest argument I've ever read. You think if thousands of israeli citizens were dying on a monthly basis from rocket attacks that would have made israel want to be **less** aggressive to the people murdering their civilians?

>The only reason Israel can be aggressive as they are is because they are confident in their ability to prevent counter attacks Honestly, this point is debatable. Israel invaded Lebanon three times between 1978 and 2011 (the year the Iron Dome was implemented). In 2006, Israel invaded Lebanon in response to Hezbollah capturing two IDF soldiers in a border ambush. The invasion displaced approximately 1 million Lebanese civilians and badly damaged Lebanese civil infrastructure. Before 2006, Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978 and 1982. The first invasion was in response to Palestinian Liberation Organization attacks on Israeli civilians such of as 1978 Coastal road massacre. The second one was purportedly sparked after an Israeli officer stepped on a landmine. After the 1982 invasion, Israel occupied southern Lebanon until 2000. Obviously, I'm not saying the Iron Dome made Israel less aggressive. Instead, I'm saying Israel was aggressive before they even had the Iron Dome's protection.

She’s faced a pressure campaign on this from the DSA for basically a year. Don’t give credit to that antisemite.

The notion that Kasparian has the ability to move anyone's political position is suspect

Ana simps for Turkish genociders tho

It's the very base of the pyramid from which all other morality is derived. You fix this issue, and all the other ones start to be within reach. If you address the Epstein/Israel/Military-Industrial-Complex, all other issues will begin to come into focus. The root cause of the symptoms you describe must first be addressed.

> Imagine this level of specific foreign policy be a dealbreaker in this political climate. I wish I was well-off enough to politically prioritize shit like this. Because it's not actually about this one policy. This one policy is tightly connected to many others. The folks who are pro-Iron-Dome funding: - Don't meaningfully fight violence in Gaza - Aren't doing jack about the Iran conflict- [some of them have been looking for an Iran war for years,](https://jacobin.com/2026/03/schumer-iran-war-opposition-democrats) and only now speak out *because Trump is bungling it* - Are soft on corruption and weak/slow to enact justice (see the past decade of Trump, and especially the Biden administration, which has brought little to no consequences against Trump) - Are quick to embrace right wing figures (see Kamala Harris with the Cheneys, or Gavin Newsom's podcast) - Are quick to distance themselves from left-wing figures, even as they expect their votes (see the pro-Palestine students a few years back and their thing about Hasan Piker right now) - [And currently, they're trying on the policy of cutting taxes](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-cuts-democrats-cory-booker-van-hollen-who-would-benefit/) when the deficit is getting worse and worse, and the average Dem is *begging* for the very rich to pay *more* so we can fund the systems and infrastructure we need.

If your leader can't take the obvious correct stance on genocide, why in the world would you trust them on any other issue? You seriously trust that a genocide-supporter would lift a finger to defend democracy, free speech, women's rights, anything?

Just disgustingly waving away a f****** genocide like it’s some minor deal. Scratch a lib….