From the AP News article:
>TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — The plane carrying about 150 Palestinians from Gaza came as a surprise to everyone on the ground when it landed in South Africa in November.
>It wasn’t the only one. Since May, at least three flights filled with Gaza residents who’d signed up to leave the war-torn enclave have landed in Indonesia and South Africa.
>An Israeli group whose founder adamantly supported U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal to resettle Palestinians from Gaza is behind the flights, an AP investigation has found, raising further questions about the motives behind the evacuation of hundreds of people from the strip.
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Osiris32Mar 15, 2026
+401
> whose founder adamantly supported U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal
Maga has infected the f****** world.
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CyborgTigerMar 15, 2026
+86
Everything that happens in the us happens in the rest of the world 5-10 years later
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randynumbergeneratorMar 15, 2026
+78
IDK, MAGA explicitly has taken lessons from Hungary among other places. Republicans have literally had conferences in Budapest.
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thenoidednuggetMar 16, 2026
+40
Right? Its like people dont remember the Golden Dawn movment either
Yeah, because they couldn't book the Nuremberg rally after the allies blew up the decorations there in '45.
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arahdialMar 16, 2026
+1
And Brexit happened right before Trump. We should have seen it as a warning.
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LampshadebestshadeMar 15, 2026
+1
Can you explain this more? I'm just curious.
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CyborgTigerMar 15, 2026
+2
It’s not a fact, just a little theory I have. Like America got fat first but it’s becoming a worldwide issue with obesity trending up. My theory is because it’s a rich country, the USA gets access to things sooner and then it’s phased into the rest of the world in the following decades.
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SentientCrisisMar 16, 2026
+1
Don’t flatter the US as some sort of trend setter.
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TangledPangolinMar 16, 2026
+39
Can you take your Murica glasses off just for a minute? The Israelis have been trying to ethnically cleanse Palestinians way before MAGA, and will happily continue to do so even if Trump is out of office.
Trump is politically convenient for Israel, but every US president has been openly supportive of Zionism for decades.
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eaglealMar 16, 2026
+4
No lol it’s not Maga that has infested the world, is merely Maga is one of the symptoms of a specific group of worldwide associations, think tanks, and financiers trying to have a new World Order by using alt-right/far-right constituents.
I’ve identified a few of them like Heritage, Congress of world families, Molofeev’s associations, etc.
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smughippieMar 16, 2026
+1
I enjoy an Australian reality show, and its most recent season features a MAGA dude. I was so upset because as an American, i just wanted some silly reality TV. There is no escape. On the bright side, he got an edit that made him look like a total buffoon.
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
+538
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Far_Radish7752Mar 15, 2026
+137
(Laughs silently, cynically, sadly…)
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Odd-Neighborhood8740Mar 15, 2026
+110
In my country this comparison is anti Semitic and people have lost jobs due to it. Insanity
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KiwizooMar 15, 2026
+21
As an accusation, Anti-semitism has basically lost all its power. It’s been so overused, especially when anyone *justifiably* criticizes Israel or Netanyahu, that it’s become essentially meaningless. People just do the eye roll thing now.
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WilliamInBlackMar 15, 2026
+7
Sorry completely misunderstood your point of view
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Adventurous_Tea_2198Mar 15, 2026
+4
Same here
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
+4
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WClandMar 15, 2026
+40
It’d be more familiar if they put the Palestinians onto trains rather than planes.
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abudhabikidMar 15, 2026
+67
The parallel is old timey Americans trying to send ex slaves “back” to Liberia, etc.
So the “more familiar” would be boats. Not trains or planes.
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riversidebumMar 15, 2026
+36
No the parallel is the state of texas recently bussing immigrants to democratic cities to over flood their services and turn members of the community against immigrants (which unfortunately worked).
South Africa spoke up as a supporter for the Palestinians so this Israeli group is saying "oh you like them so much, but how much will you like them when we send a bunch for you to deal with"
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Bodark43Mar 15, 2026
+3
> oh you like them so much, but how much will you like them when we send a bunch for you to deal with"
'Especially after we've smashed their houses, killed their friends, neighbors, and families, starved them, forced them to constantly flee our constant airstrikes...you really think you will like these people?".
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sh4d0ww01fMar 15, 2026
+2
Trains where going to the KZ in germany.
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expectingthexpectedMar 15, 2026
+4
Missed the “signed up” part eh? Or would that just skip the chance to do the Holocaust Equivalency that you were jonesing for?
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Ok_Weakness8518Mar 15, 2026
+5
Signed up under what conditions? Because of? For what purpose? Who wanted this? Why did they want this? You think any of them thought getting deported was better than a bomb?
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arielsosaMar 16, 2026
+2
*Gime me your wallet willingly or I'll stab you and your family 70 times.
-Say less! Would you lile my phone as well?
See? That kind of diplomacy can make anyine play along ;)
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ICPcrisisMar 15, 2026
+82
Clethnic Ensing.
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KaiisimMar 16, 2026
+8
Yeah that's called Ethnic cleansing.
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DarthWooMar 15, 2026
+3
Well, it's not Madagascar, but pretty close.
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magnuman307Mar 15, 2026
-3
A bit of a long shot but I wonder if there are some legacy ties to Apartheid there.
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AquaD74Mar 15, 2026
+2179
Jesus the fact that my brain went from "wow what good samaritans trying to organise safe routes out of Gaza for refugees" to "oh these people want to ethnically cleanse them and steal their land" is so depressing. Genuinely monsters.
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PantsickleMar 15, 2026
+454
"Congratulations! You're the lucky recipients of an all-expense-paid ticket to Get Right the F*** Out of Here and Die!"
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zzzzaapMar 16, 2026
+24
Sounds like cities that buy homeless people one way bus tickets to other cities.
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RhamniMar 15, 2026
+14
Four stars average? I don't know... Everything is astroturfed to hell these days, anything under a 4.5 probably isn't very good...
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brazendynamicMar 15, 2026
+208
I \*fully\* thought they were just helping people escape somewhere dangerous. I can't believe I'm still this f****** naive sometimes.
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Miss_Maple_DreamMar 15, 2026
+31
Same. I thought it was like Schindler’s smuggling the vulnerable out of harm’s way.
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sidviccMar 16, 2026
+13
It's not you, it's the wording: "evacuating" should be replaced with "exiling"
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digiornoMar 15, 2026
+104
Exile is better than a bullet, I suppose. But yeah, this is all incredibly fucked up.
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NiobiumThornMar 15, 2026
+107
And it was also the first plan the Nazis came up with. Didn't work. Nor will this.
We know what happens next.
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oh_crap_BEARSMar 16, 2026
+6
I literally went, “Finally, good news” and then realized the headline mislead me a bit lol
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LiteratureOk2428Mar 15, 2026
+9
Yeah went through the same mental process there.
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LunaMJ21Mar 15, 2026
+26
It's literal Holocaust shit, except being done BY jews this time
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bluemitersawMar 15, 2026
+10
And these are the "nice" monsters because they are relocating them. Plenty of Palestinians are just being killed wholesale.
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Big-Option3118Mar 15, 2026
+3
I'm honestly surprised that so many people had such a reaction. When I read that it was an Israeli group, it was instantly apparent that this would be an act of ethnic cleansing. I wouldn't expect anything else from them.
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Disasterhuman24Mar 15, 2026
-1
The entire genocide is Gaza is because the Israelis want the land under them. People think they are killing them because they just hate them and they are evil. They feel nothing for the Gazans except indifference. They are exterminating them because it was the most cost effective option to them. They would have done this to anyone who was living on that land.
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mercsetMar 15, 2026
+12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum
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Disasterhuman24Mar 15, 2026
+3
This exactly
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No-Tie6765Mar 15, 2026
+3
Maybe that’s how the leaders ultimately see it, but the average Israeli absolutely hates Palestinians and Muslims.
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eran76Mar 15, 2026
+3
Exactly, that's why Israel withdrew its settlers and all its soldiers from Gaza in 2005.
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nessman930Mar 16, 2026
+1
“There’s no place here what were you expecting? No room for both, just room for me”
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mido_samaMar 15, 2026
+672
There are two words that describes this.
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Incestuous_AmoebaMar 15, 2026
+366
Hmm… Perhaps some sort of scrubbing or cleaning of a group of people sharing racial and cultural traits….
_But what could we call it?_
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
+151
Demographic washing?
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GrepekEbiMar 15, 2026
+20
Racial Laundering?
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Then-Understanding85Mar 15, 2026
+22
Electra Washing Machines: Now with enhanced Ethnic Cleansing mode!
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
-12
I decided to learn whether the Torah supports this. It turns out they predicted Israeli foreign policy.
Joshua 11:20
"For it was the Lord himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the Lord had commanded Moses."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua%2011%3A20&version=NIV
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feltmanMar 15, 2026
+14
I’m sorry this is some straight up racist cherry picking. Just as bad as those who like to quote “violent passages” from the Koran to malign Muslims.
Read the whole chapter and learn who the Anakites were and where they lived if you want a good laugh.
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Practical_ChemtrailMar 15, 2026
+4
Read the whole chapter and honestly cannot say it reflects better in context. My favourite line is probably about how the Israelites didn’t burn all the cities but definitely killed all the people who lived there…
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Aporkalypse_SowMar 15, 2026
+2
I do believe laundered is the word we've chosen to describe dirty cleaning
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Incestuous_AmoebaMar 15, 2026
+4
Oooh see, now, “Demographic Laundering”, that’s thinkin’ with optics! Sprinkle in some “cultural shift” and we should be able to spread far and wide!
(Edit because accidentally some words)
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Lower_Excuse_8693Mar 15, 2026
+140
Forced Relocation?
Ethnic Cleansing?
Cultural Genocide?
F****** Batshit?
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KingMario05Mar 15, 2026
+33
"All of the above!"
-Likud
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SaneForCocoaPuffsMar 16, 2026
+11
While Israel deports Palestinians en masse through these supposed "humanitarian flights", thousands of Palestinians are trapped in Gaza unable to leave due to Israeli restrictions at the Rafah border crossing.
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2muchnerdMar 16, 2026
+1
also egypt
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AtticusxjMar 15, 2026
+178
So they're totally gonna get their homes back after the war, right?
*so they're gonna get their homes back after the war, right?*
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starfreak016Mar 15, 2026
+7
Um history is a hell of a redundancy
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KingMario05Mar 15, 2026
+330
Jesus, now even Israeli *charities* are ethnic cleansing. Something is deeply, deeply wrong with Bibi's Israel, and the world better prepare before it finally goes mask-off crazy.
...Even more so than it is now, I mean.
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I_SawTheSineMar 15, 2026
+185
There's [another Israeli charity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yad_L%27Achim) that specialises in breaking up interfaith marriages. Under the guise of saving women from abuse.
But it's only ever Jewish women, and the men are always from another religion, and usually Arab.
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Terrible_Ice_1616Mar 15, 2026
+34
Interfaith marriages which must be performed outside of Israel, as it is against the law there (same goes for gay people looking to get married)
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KingMario05Mar 15, 2026
+16
F*** me...
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MonochromaticPrismMar 15, 2026
+4
Not unless you're Jewish, apparently.
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freebirthMar 15, 2026
+16
and if you are jewish and a young adult. they will fly you to israel for free. supply you with free parties and alchohol and even have members of the military attend the parties to hook up with the people on their free tour to encourage them to move and start a family.
birthrigth israel is literally just a government funded ploy to increase the ethnic "purity" of israel.
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RakastaakissaMar 15, 2026
+8
Not all Jewish young adults though. I had two friends denied birthright due(we assume) one, to having a Latin American last name and skin tone, and the other being of non-white South African nationality.
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mlc885Mar 16, 2026
+2
>They claim these operations are initiated based on requests from the women themselves or their concerned family members
Your "concerned family members" should not get to decide if you are able to marry outside of your birth religion or race, wtf
"Clearly she doesn't know what she is doing since she is dating a Black guy"
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Max_D_LuffyMar 15, 2026
+75
Nah it's not specifically bibis israel
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BeIgnoredMar 15, 2026
+35
Yup. Ehud Barak was a close Epstein friend and almost certainly client.
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
+29
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BeIgnoredMar 15, 2026
+39
During the creation of modern Israel, the new Israelis would call Holocaust survivors "soap" because of a rumor that Nazis turned their victims into soap. They looked down on Holocaust survivors for supposedly being weak and victims.
Edited to add sources, since I realize this sounds insane:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/26330024231219030
Sage publication that opens a PDF article:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/07255136211042453
Book: The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust
By Tom Segov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaSela_haAdom
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/Olive-Press/2013/1115/Why-Auschwitz-survivor-frowns-at-Israeli-plan-to-teach-Holocaust-to-1st-graders
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MonochromaticPrismMar 15, 2026
+19
I'll throw in that I've come across this in previous reading about that era as well. While this sounds extraordinary it's not actually surprising, as the non-western Jews were overwhelmingly deeply conservative. It’s the same fundamental thread of belief that lead to Trump saying "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured." and not losing any conservative support.
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NiobiumThornMar 15, 2026
+8
That sure could use a source.
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BeIgnoredMar 15, 2026
+27
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/26330024231219030
Sage publication that opens a PDF article:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/07255136211042453
Book: The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust by Tom Segov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaSela_haAdom
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/Olive-Press/2013/1115/Why-Auschwitz-survivor-frowns-at-Israeli-plan-to-teach-Holocaust-to-1st-graders
Lmao my sources are getting downvoted.
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Shady_FallMar 15, 2026
+11
They really don't like being confronted with sourced facts lmfao.
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BeIgnoredMar 16, 2026
+5
Right? It did turn around after an hour or two. I've commented before on how interesting it is that anti-Zionist comments are often met with an initial and swift flood of downvotes until everyone else comes along and changes that. Fast and simultaneous downvotes sure don't look suspicious or anything lmao.
Edit: Lmao
https://imgur.com/a/FIol4as
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Great_Northern_BeansMar 15, 2026
+4
There's no such thing as a "government only" genocide. Genocide is a whole societal action against an ethnic group that can only be completed with the cooperation (tacit, or otherwise overt in some cases like this one) of the population.
As the saying goes "if 10 people are sitting at the table and one of them is a Nazi, then you have 10 Nazis" (the irony is not lost on me that this phrase was coined by the very genocide that created Israel). Obviously this doesn't mean that *every* member of the society, or even the perpetrating group agrees with it (see: Oskar Schindler - there were even good Nazis). But the phrase exists because genocide doesn't happen without a very large support base in the population.
As such, it should come as no surprise that the Israeli people are pro-genocide too. They're sitting at the table.
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MonochromaticPrismMar 15, 2026
+5
No, it's definitely possible. The Vietnam war, the bombing of Cambodia, supporting the Bangladesh genocide, were all deeply unpopular government actions, however the time it took for information to proliferate and democracy to react left an ample window for horrors to occur. They were all also heavily influenced by a single unelected individual, Henry Kissinger, without whom those events would have played out very differently.
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freebirthMar 15, 2026
+5
and all of those actions happened because people did not STOP them. society knew what was going on. there were people calling it out as it happend. it wasnt done in secret. it wasnt a suprise.
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gandhibobandhiMar 15, 2026
+1
My views aren't aligned with the group who planned these flights. But I don't see how letting people leave, of their own volition, is ethnic cleansing?
And if Palestinians aren't allowed to leave then its an "open air-prison"... so what's the ethical choice here?
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PetrolheadPlayerMar 15, 2026
+14
Would the Palestinians have left under normal circumstances?
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gandhibobandhiMar 16, 2026
+2
What does that matter? Their government started a war and they want to be somewhere else. Germany took in millions of syrian refugees for the same reason.
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freebirthMar 15, 2026
and the jewish ghettos in germany were voluntary.. at first.
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gandhibobandhiMar 16, 2026
+3
I don't think they were... Why would anyone voluntarily move to a ghetto? but it doesn't sound like these palestinian refugees are being sent to a ghetto anyway.
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Diplomatic-ImmunityiMar 16, 2026
+1
It’s been that way since 1948, you were just asleep at the wheel.
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TheMoorNextDoorMar 15, 2026
+81
So they were deporting them not saving them.
The people setting up these flights are full fledged Zionist that want to get rid of the people of Gaza one way or another.
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Decent-Ganache7647Mar 15, 2026
+16
And hardly “evacuating” them, as AP inaccurately describes it.
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fragbot2Mar 15, 2026
-24
Deporting implies it was involuntary. This is more like paying for a greyhound bus ticket for the homeless guy camping in the green space behind your house.
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TheMoorNextDoorMar 15, 2026
+32
Green space behind your house?
It’s more like buying tickets for your neighbor’s family one at a time, interrupting their lives along the way (turning off utilities, playing loud music, damaging their cars) until eventually you’ve moved everyone in and you take over their house and land. Not all at once, just slowly enough that it feels legal even though it’s clearly not.
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Moxtar1092Mar 16, 2026
+1
>interrupting their lives along the way
Oh please, like they're angles that did nothing wrong
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_ECMO_Mar 15, 2026
+1
Paying the bus ticket for the guy whose house you just blew up so that he doesn't bother you.
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
+29
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Canuck-overseasMar 15, 2026
+14
It was no great mystery; most people knew what was up.
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somedaveguyMar 15, 2026
+30
Now this is confusing -
Should we be upset that someone put up the money to take Palestinians who wanted out of Gaza to South Africa? (nothing about this story suggests they were coerced or tricked)
Or should we be upset about policies that force Palestinians to stay in "the world's largest open air prison"?
Must they stay or can they go?
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Accomplished-Cup8182Mar 15, 2026
+18
This might be the most disingenuous, cynical, and dark false binary I've ever seen.
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thatmarcelfaustMar 15, 2026
+9
I mean they were coerced by the whole living in the world’s largest open air prison thing. If I come into your home and point a gun at you and offer to call you a cab to go somewhere else are you freely making the decision to take the cab?
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somedaveguyMar 15, 2026
+2
I just don't think it's fair to blame Israel for the 'being stuck in Gaza' situation. None of the other Arab countries will grant Palestinians citizenship - if they leave Gaza and go to the UAE (etc) they'll be unable to own property or work in most professional positions.
They don't have passports - travel to (and certainly residence in) many other countries is prohibited. altogether.
I'm not trying to push an ethnic cleansing agenda, but, after so many years of Hamas leadership and it's pretty likely SOME Gazans would welcome the opportunity to live somewhere else. Even if it means they lose their right of return (which most refugees do).
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randynumbergeneratorMar 15, 2026
+6
>I just don't think it's fair to blame Israel for the 'being stuck in Gaza' situation. None of the other Arab countries will grant Palestinians citizenship.
Sorry how are Arab countries culpable for Israel's decision to conduct mass displacement?
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somedaveguyMar 16, 2026
-1
Didn't say that -
The Arab countries are responsible for refusing to absorb the Palestinians into their countries and for making their absorption into other countries unnecessarily difficult.
The Arab League has been collectively pushing the refugee agenda for generations while simultaneously supporting Hamas leadership in Gaza (which has not been a good thing for Gaza - ever).
Israel pulled out of and handed Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005. Rather than enjoy it, they spent 20 years planning a war.
I believe there are many families in Gaza who are not interested in war and would much rather move on.
If the Arab countries won't take or help them, how many options do they have?
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thatmarcelfaustMar 15, 2026
+1
But they wouldn’t want to leave Gaza if Israel wasn’t making living conditions there intolerable. The blame fairly and squarely lands at the feet of Israel. I mean sure the other Arab countries should perhaps behave differently but then you are blaming third parties for not responding appropriately to the ethnic cleansing and apartheid perpetrated by Israel.
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somedaveguyMar 16, 2026
+4
Ridiculous to think "blame fairly and squarely lands at the feet of Israel".
Israel handed Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005. They promptly elected Hamas and began a 20 year campaign of terror and bombing. That's not OK.
I blame Hamas for making living conditions in Gaza intolerable. They're the elected government and they chose to make war not peace.
You want to absolve the Arab countries for not responding appropriately, but they're not the ones being bombed, they're the ones paying for the bombs and the ones supporting Hamas leadership.
They're not uninvolved third parties.
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thatmarcelfaustMar 16, 2026
The Hamas that was initially supported by Israel? Also Israel maintained control of Gaza’s airspace and maritime borders after 2005 before Hamas came to power in 2007. The UN still considered it occupied territory at that time. Hamas was elected because they advocated resistance as a means to liberate Palestine from Israeli occupation. Had Israel given actual sovereignty to Gaza instead of just conceding in part to international law after 38 years of illegal occupation maybe Hamas wouldn’t have come to power.
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kesiMar 16, 2026
+1
Right. Both sides want to use them as pawns.
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[deleted]Mar 15, 2026
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ModernLarvalsMar 15, 2026
+2
Forcefully? They asked to leave.
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CressCheapMar 15, 2026
+1
Were they forcefully relocated? Were they forced to board the planes?
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ConversationFlaky608Mar 15, 2026
+4
Maybe they wanted to escape Hamas rule.
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SchuanoMar 16, 2026
+2
This is scummy.
The problem: ethnic cleansing is bad.
The other problem: "Dear Palestinians, because ethnic cleansing is bad, please remain in place. You might die, but your heroic sacrifice is expected." Like, I can't in good conscience say that any individual Palestinians should turn down a flight out of a warzone just because it, in aggregate, facilitates the ethnic cleansing plan.
We don't describe Jews who got out of Nazi Germany as facilitating Nazi goal of ethnic cleansing even though there was a strain of Nazi thought that was happy to get people to Just leave and there were some policies to that effect.
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irishspiceMar 15, 2026
+2
The Zionists are reinforcing the antisemitism that never goes away. There has to be a lot of Jews who are against this insanity. Maybe it's not safe for them to take a stand.
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NapaAirDomeMar 16, 2026
+1
I could’ve sworn we already knew this months ago
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WildeOpenMar 16, 2026
+1
The tickets were free, but also one way.
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santz007Mar 16, 2026
+1
Sad that only the people of rhis sub will ever hear about it. People watching TV News and social media news will never hear about it
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Suspicious-advice49Mar 15, 2026
-5
Where is the moral outrage from the Israeli people? They’re committing genocide, not on a scale of the Holocaust, but certainly against the mantra of “ never again “. Over 70,000 Palestinian men, women, and children have been killed. Now Bibi is sending his war machine into Lebanon, displacing over 400,000 Lebanese people. And the world doesn’t care. More importantly, the US doesn’t care. We have become Israel’s puppet.
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BeardmantaMar 15, 2026
+25
They view it as defending themselves.
It's really tempting to ignore the innocents being harmed when you've been running to bomb shelters at 3:00AM every other night for years because Hamas/Hezbollah /Houthies have been lobbing explosives in your general direction indiscriminately, gunning down your kids at music festivals by the hundreds, or watched suicide bomber's detonate school busses full of children.
There's almost no one in israel that doesn't know someone killed or maimed in a terror attack.
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hrsidkpiMar 15, 2026
+22
Amazing that you are downvoted for this.
Somehow Hamas is justified because “of course when someone kills your family you will resist”, but when it’s Israelis who lose family members they are supposed to turn the other cheek.
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Cinnabun6Mar 15, 2026
+5
There is outrage from the Israeli people. I admit we’ve become the minority though.
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WanderhodenMar 15, 2026
+1
Man, Israelis sure are making people feel less sorry for them and more supportive of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran every day… what a feat!
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Space-Turtle88Mar 15, 2026
-2
Were no cattle cars available? I'm sure that was their first choice for transportation
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