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Questions & Help Mar 17, 2026 at 1:39 PM

Apache women seek court intervention as federal land is turned over for copper mining

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https://apnews.com/article/arizona-oak-flat-copper-mining-apache-024697a87552094c70abf8afa0ed8241

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GnomeNot Mar 17, 2026 +169
Why does this sound so familiar? Wait, nevermind.
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Zardotab Mar 17, 2026 +56
and RFK is probably preparing more smallpox blankets.
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genericnewlurker Mar 17, 2026 +11
Jeans. Smallpox jeans to workout in
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Daren_I Mar 17, 2026 +142
> Attorneys for the U.S. Forest Service have argued in court filings over the years that the agency has no discretion because the exchange was indeed mandated by Congress when language was included in a must-pass national defense spending bill that was signed into law in 2014 by then-President Barack Obama. I wish riders were disallowed. If a bill can't stand on its own merit, it shouldn't be passed.
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DavidFosterLawless Mar 17, 2026 +23
I am from the UK, ELI5? EDIT: thanks u/tertiaryocelot + u/memberz. Yeah, this is why we have a House of Lords. You guys should look into that! 
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memberzs Mar 17, 2026 +62
They bundle multiple bills into one. Largely used to pass unpopular unrelated bills with something that is wanted. An example would be creating a green energy direct rebate bill, a bill that makes hoas banning solar illegal, a bill that offers more protections to wetlands but bundling it with a law that allows the federal govt to take native land without question. It makes politicians look like dirtbags for not passing it over that one little thing and then that gets used for campaigns as smearing targets. This exact reason is why we are in a partial shut down.
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DavidFosterLawless Mar 17, 2026 +10
Wow OK, that's mad. So your politicians happily play around with public money and statutes to score measly political points? Starting to get the impression politics is a somewhat slimy game /s
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RainSurname Mar 18, 2026 +12
This is what happens when one of two political parties is ideologically opposed to the very idea of good government. The Republicans have been breaking as much as they can every time they get in power ever since Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. Each time a Democrat got back in, it was harder to fix it, in part because an ultra-conservative society of mostly Christian nationalist judges have spent decades getting their people onto the federal bench, where they would use every opportunity to strike down any good thing Democrats did. Now we've reached a point where they dominate the Supreme Court, including three that were part of the legal team that helped Bush steal the 2000 election, and they have basically started ruling up is down, black is white, and Trump can do as he likes. And the Republicans will just shut down the government any time the Democrats actually have enough power to block an attempt to break more things, making millions of people suffer to try and coerce them.
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memberzs Mar 18, 2026 +2
It takes a weak man with strong friends to become a politician. They could have had promising, fulfilling lives if they just got real jobs.
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tertiaryocelot Mar 17, 2026 +46
a rider is an addon to another bill. So a bill to fund cancer for children can have rider added that also funds Christian pray the gay away camps. Sometimes this is added to kill the bill so the other side wont vote for a bill, its done to get what you want out of a bill that will pass no matter what, and sometimes its a quid pro quo to get the bill to pass. An i give you this and you vote for my bill that is a good thing. This article says the land was sold in a bill to fund the government during obama term. So it was shut the government down or pass a bill with a bunch of evil riders.
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hungarian_notation Mar 18, 2026 +3
Didn't you guys just kick out the hereditary peers like last week? A little soon to be on the high horse about the structure of your government.
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DavidFosterLawless Mar 18, 2026 +1
Although arcane, the HoL provided critical feedback and scrutiny to our legislative procedure. Also, our system actually achieved institutional change by abolishing hierditary peers? F*** yeah, I'm gonna get on my high horse and rant & rave about it. 
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MARPJ Mar 17, 2026 +21
> I wish riders were disallowed. In any serious country it would be, but its clear to everyone for a time that the US dont fit that category
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DarthBluntSaber Mar 17, 2026 +89
Trump and his republican regime continue to r*** and poison america. Republicans did this.
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I_Push_Buttonz Mar 17, 2026 +7
> Republicans did this. This court case has been happening since Biden entered office in early 2021 regarding a land transfer from a law signed by Obama in 2014.
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Asrahn Mar 17, 2026 +14
Remember when Obama blasted native american protesters with water cannons in sub freezing temperatures to build a pipeline? The US regime has always pillaged the land and its people.
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Asrahn Mar 17, 2026 +11
2026, and treaties are still being broken.
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TrueFakeFacts Mar 17, 2026 +3
How could the administration that venerates Andrew Jackson do this to the native population?
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theLastKingofScots Mar 17, 2026 +4
Well, the government wouldn’t have to do this if they were REAL Americans. /s for 2026
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