My favorite line is still, "you want the jews out of Israel and when they leave, you chase the Jews back to Israel. "
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JD0x05 days ago
+90
It's because they don't want them out of Israel. ***They want them out of existence.***
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HuChemistry5 days ago
+29
[My favorite video. How can we get more people to watch this? ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDd6joU9oz8)
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nukacola126 days ago
+189
That'll really show Israel! /s
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HuChemistry5 days ago
+118
They are not antisemites they are anti israel! /s
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[deleted]5 days ago
+1
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HuChemistry5 days ago
+18
> Then attack the embassy. Attacking a mosque is definitely islamophobic, isn't it?
Did you see the /s for sarcasm?
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shushi775 days ago
+16
Don't worry, it's not anti-Semitism. It's just fair and informed criticism of the Israeli government's actions. /s
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excital6 days ago
+270
Again, again, and again. I'm truly sorry for our Jewish community which is being failed, and will continue to be failed, by our inept, slimy, myopic representatives.
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Semajal6 days ago
-169
You said "our" Jewish community, then blamed "our" representatives? but we (the UK) haven't started this war, and I don't see how British Jews are being failed somehow when you can never fully stop random attacks.
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excital6 days ago
+148
Reports of antisemetic hate crimes have surged massively in the past few years, and you don't understand how the Jewish community has been failed? Really?
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Semajal5 days ago
-100
Okay so you are meaning the UK?
So what have politicians not done that they should have done to stop this? Tried to stop Israel continuing with excessive retribution and war crimes? Or pre-emptively banned anyone who might think about hate crime?
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FeedbackOther52155 days ago
+66
There’s a key link you’re mistakenly asserting: Israel, could nuke Iran, and it would still not be reasonable to connect that with justifying/supporting burning a place of worship outside of Israel. Doing so is supporting terrorism, nothing more to it. Same goes if Iran nukes Israel, can’t go burning mosques in France.
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Semajal5 days ago
-54
I am not saying it's reasonable, I am pointing to \*why\* it has been happening. Same as how anti Muslim sentiment went through the roof after 9/11. Acceptable? no. But you can acknowledge the reason why.
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One-Progress9995 days ago
+31
Not sure why you're arguing. You're basically saying:
A drunk driver killed someone in Germany. So you can understand why someone would attack someone having a beer in Japan.
Yes... there's a connection but it's an incredibly flimsy and stupidly shallow one. It's literally you trying to make someone understand a criminal and terrorist instead of just locking the terrorist up. Youre the kind pf person that would tell a woman she shouldnt have been wearing shorts when someone SA'd them because you can see what would have attracted the assaulter to that woman.
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Semajal5 days ago
-7
You’re making words up and making insane accusations against me. Are you saying that there is zero connection between the actions of Israel and rising anti semetism?
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One-Progress9995 days ago
+15
Of course there is... but like I said you're making an argument lessening the evil of terrorists by pointing out a small connection.
In fact both Anti-Jewish and Anti-Muslim attacks have risen since October 7th. However, Anti-semitism was already at very high levels pre-october 7th. Blaming Israel for the actions of terrorists attacks on people that have nothing to do with Israel other than sharing a religion is wrong.... trying to sit here an pin this on Israel when it was already rising before October 7th is wrong. Are you not blaming Palestinians for the growing anti-muslim attacks around the world???
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Semajal5 days ago
-2
So this stemmed in part from someone talking as if they are from the UK and using language that doesn't match things, and me asking WTF politicians are meant to have done to stop random or semi planned attacks, as if they have magic powers to stop people doing dumb things...
I am not stating that it is the fault of Israel, but that there is a rise of issues since this latest war which is impacting hundreds of millions of people round the world.
The comments you make stating "i am the kind of person that would blame women for clothing" are just stupid, at no point am I trying to victim blame, though trying to find out what is meant to be done and why that first person I replied to was so angry at UK politicians.
Yes, I blame Hamas/Hezbollah for a lot of issues as well, as terror groups.
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platinumarks5 days ago
+52
But don't worry folks, the anti-Israel side never conflates Jews with Israel!
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excital5 days ago
+22
Why argue with someone who's made up their mind?
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Semajal5 days ago
-5
Again, what are politicians meant to do beyond saying that it's unaccebtale, having the police do their work, counter terrorism doing their work?
Please, tell me, what have the politicians in the UK \*not\* done?
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Nukes-For-Nimbys5 days ago
+38
When people spent the last few years telling us all exactly who they are. We should have believed them.
All we had to do was enforce the law as it stands.
All the people marching with Hamas and Hezbollah flags, should have been actioned.
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Semajal5 days ago
+3
[https://news.met.police.uk/news/woman-charged-with-inviting-support-for-hamas-507693](https://news.met.police.uk/news/woman-charged-with-inviting-support-for-hamas-507693)
[https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/man-who-wore-hamas-headband-central-london-rally-convicted](https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/man-who-wore-hamas-headband-central-london-rally-convicted)
Now I can't say if I did see Hamas/Hezbollah flags being flown with no consequences.
OFC if this instance (as referenced) is a specific Iranian group then it's tough for anything to happen till they hit the radar of law enforcement. Again though, I don't see what more politicians can do?
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Nukes-For-Nimbys5 days ago
+2
Those were very much the exception not the rule.
TBF the politicians have gotten better in the last year or so, they have been quite on it with the "Palestine action" idiots. They were very slow to react.
The latest moment they should have been coming down hard was when this happend.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68856360
What's deeply frustrating is that the office wasn't even incorrect in the moment. They had lost control of the street.
That should have lead to a massive crackdown starting that very day. Instead the low ranking constable got blamed, apologies issued and f*** all was really done.
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Semajal5 days ago
+1
TBH I don't agree with the way Palestine action were proscribed, it gave no real option but to proscribe them as they were put in with two other groups in a vote. It felt a bit of a grey area and certainly caused a ton of frustration as the messaging became very confused. I would have been happy if there had been debate about them to make a decision, vs it being part of a collection of groups, since there was no real debate.
Crackdown on what btw? People can protest in support of the Palestinian people, and being opposed to the actions of Israel is also totally fine, as is being strongly critical of the countries actions in various instances.
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favecolorisgreen5 days ago
+13
Nothing about it is random.
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Araminal6 days ago
-154
And how do you propose that a random arson attack be prevented?
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TheColourOfHeartache6 days ago
+133
Well declaring the IRGC/Iran a terrorist organisation and sweeping arrests of all known assets in the UK would be a good start.
(I think declaring the IRGC a terrorist group would be symbolic, its been made illegal under a different process used for states. But the mass arrests would be significant, and symbolism matters).
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Araminal6 days ago
-117
The UK doesn't do "mass arrests". It isn't a fascist country yet.
The irony of apologising to the "Jewish community" and then calling for mass arrests of another group is amusing.
Edit: my apologies. You were not the person apologising to the Jewish community.
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TheColourOfHeartache5 days ago
+80
> The UK doesn't do "mass arrests"
The UK, like all countries, has occasionally rounded up a criminal network or foreign spying network when it has the evidence needed to do so.
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Araminal5 days ago
-69
Arrests where there is evidence of criminal activity or active enemy intelligence operatives is very different than calling for "mass arrests".
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TheColourOfHeartache5 days ago
+46
"Arrests of all known assets". And pray tell, how can they be a known asset without evidence connecting them to the IRGC?
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Araminal5 days ago
-14
> But the **mass arrests** would be significant, and symbolism matters
Would you require evidence of any laws broken?
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FriendlyJewThrowaway5 days ago
+7
If IRGC assets in the UK aren’t universally banned, then that’s part of the government failure right there.
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FeedbackOther52155 days ago
+25
That’s just plain untrue. The UK has a long history of mass arrests if we reasonably assume mass = > 100 people. 500 people were arrested at an event THIS MONTH. Last September there were almost 900 arrested at a protest, in operation Demetrius (sp?) they rounded up almost 2k claimed IRA connected individuals which is a straight comparison to what the other person proposed. I mean really there are many examples of mass arrest in the UK, as there are in almost every country.
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Gold-Return6315 days ago
+40
“Another group” is a very disingenuous way to speak about this. The Jewish community and the IRGC are not remotely the same type of group. Is it wrong to arrest ISIS members while supporting black communities, just because both are groups?
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Araminal5 days ago
-13
There are members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in the UK?
Nice straw man, btw.
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Gold-Return6315 days ago
+43
The comment you replied to literally said IRGC. Did you read it? You do not have to be a direct member of the IRGC to be an asset. People willingly assisting the IRGC is a drastically different type of group than an ethnoreligious group of citizens. You’re obviously not commenting in good faith though
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Araminal5 days ago
-1
So how would you quantify "asset", and would you require evidence of any laws broken or just do "mass arrests" (which was the point I was replying to, if you weren't following)?
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Gold-Return6315 days ago
+17
I am simply pointing out that there is a massive difference in the type of group that the IRGC is and an ethnoreligious group, and that you could not compare the two in good faith, but I realize you are either not commenting in good faith or are deeply troubled. Are you not following?
An “asset” would be someone providing material support, and if designated as a proscribed (terrorist) organization, as the other commenter said, then being involved is a crime that requires evidence. Is that simple enough for you to understand?
My comment had nothing to do with if arrests should be made. It is about how you are trying to compare an ethnoreligious group to the IRGC by calling them “another group,” which is absolutely ridiculous.
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No-Scientist37265 days ago
+27
Yeah. Because arresting fascists is the most fascist thing to do. /s
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Araminal5 days ago
-6
In the UK it's not against the law to hold fascist political leanings, or shit loads of supposedly "right minded" people would be languishing in overcrowded prisons by now.
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Extension-Toe-70275 days ago
+35
I think a listnookor said it better, there are 2 Nations currently engaging in war in the middle east, opinions about the conflict vary and there are strong positions of outrage that spill over to direct action however nobody is protecting the American section of a supermarket. Besides the embassy, that always carries an elevated grade of security, there are probably hundreds of soft targets with direct and obvious connection to American culture business and government and yet none of them are targeted. You ask what what to do, ok why don't we start by having a good look at who the green party is fronting as candidates and we take it from there.
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Araminal5 days ago
-9
Okay, we take a "good look" at the green party candidates, and then what do we do?
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Extension-Toe-70275 days ago
+27
Well I guess not asking your opinion in what to do would probably be a good start.
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Araminal5 days ago
-3
So you don't have an answer, apart from a soundbite "having a good look at"?
It's okay not to have a formulated solution to something, but let's not obfuscate that with an ambiguous phrase.
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Extension-Toe-70275 days ago
+22
Yeah most definitely I stand by my last comment. Thank you clearing that out.
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Normal-Ear-57575 days ago
+18
Not really random tho
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Araminal5 days ago
+1
Random in as much as you don't know when or where it will happen, so random enough. There are over 140 synagogues in London alone.
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Semajal5 days ago
+2
Just thought id say hi to someone else who has also been downvoted to hell on this and it feels rather like it's botted or directed because damnnnn :o
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HuChemistry6 days ago
+62
A synagogue in northwest London was targeted in an arson attack overnight Sunday, officials said, in the latest in a string of assaults in recent weeks that Britain’s chief rabbi called a “sustained campaign of violence and intimidation against the Jewish community.”
There was minor smoke damage to a room inside Kenton United Synagogue, the Community Security Trust (CST) said, after police and fire teams were called to the Jewish house of worship.
A pro-Iranian government Islamist group, which says it is also behind a spate of attacks across Europe on US, Israeli and Jewish targets, said on Sunday afternoon that it was responsible for the overnight attack.
UK counter-terrorism police, in the wake of the incident, said they were heading up investigations into the incidents.
“Last night yet another synagogue, this time in Kenton, was targeted in a cowardly arson attack,” Britain’s Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis said on X. “A sustained campaign of violence and intimidation against the Jewish community of the UK is gathering momentum.”
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BringbackDreamBars6 days ago
+32
Can't obviously be certain, but People of the Right Hand starting operations after the beginning of the Iran war and deliberately using Arabic language to communicate does kind of scream Iranian proxy or someone else trying to seem like Iran.
>According to the ICCT, the group's primary Telegram account was created in 2023 but remained dormant until the 2026 attacks, with claim videos often appearing there only after being disseminated by pro-Iranian channels. A second account, created on March 21, 2021, published a claim for the London attack before other channels, though it contained inconsistencies such as a misspelled Arabic name likely resulting from an incorrect English translation.
Definitely going towards the side of this being a "brand" rather than an actual organisation.
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Araminal6 days ago
+10
There is talk of possible criminal connections, with criminals being paid to start the fires. Russian Telegram channels have been proven to have used that tactic against pro-Ukrainian collection hubs in the UK.
As for the "who?" it could be anti-Jewish, anti-Israel, or false flag.
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Friendly_Estate16295 days ago
+14
lol yeah false flag… cause the idea of an Islamic extremist is basically science fiction
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odd_orange5 days ago
+1
I’m assuming you meant to write “doesn’t scream”, to which, yea I’d agree
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russellzerotohero6 days ago
-16
Proxy for what?
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TheColourOfHeartache6 days ago
+25
He means Iran is funding and directing them.
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russellzerotohero5 days ago
+2
Ah that’s what I thought. I’ve seen some Listnookors try to claim Jewish groups are doing this to themselves as staged ways to garner sympathy. And wanted to see if this guy was saying the actual proxy it could be or if he was just an antisemite.
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