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News & Current Events Mar 25, 2026 at 8:56 PM

As ‘Fargo’ turns 30, William H. Macy shares surprising stories behind the Coen brothers classic:

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TripleSingleHOF Mar 25, 2026 +152
Jerry Lundegaard has to be on the shortlist of "Most pathetic characters in film history".
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Mst3Kgf Mar 25, 2026 +73
Everything about his plan is a disaster waiting to happen. Especially how he never considered that his stubborn father-in-law, who is not shy about showing his disdain for his son-in-law, might insist on making the ransom delivery himself. "Damnit, Jerry, you're not selling me a damn car!"
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jzakko Mar 26, 2026 +16
It's banal stupidity all the way down, he never even considered that he couldn't get away with stealing the car, if the kidnapping worked perfectly he still would've been caught by the insurance men.
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monsantobreath Mar 26, 2026 +7
And he's an old hand at the car business and it's the old days. How can he not have a better way?
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JustTheBeerLight Mar 26, 2026 +4
> banal stupidity Like Jerry asking Wade for money so he can invest in "his deal"?
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lilpump_1 Mar 25, 2026 +22
he couldn’t even lie properly lmao
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Mst3Kgf Mar 25, 2026 +48
One little bit I love is in his final scene when the cops at his hotel door ask for "Mr. Anderson" and he goes, "Who?" The dumbass can't even remember his own alias.
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TheGRS Mar 26, 2026 +16
I took that as him buying time. He’s constantly trying to keep the ruse going. He knows it’s all paper thin.
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TripleSingleHOF Mar 26, 2026 +9
"Just a second ..."
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MumpsyDaisy Mar 25, 2026 +21
It's amazing, he fucks up just about every social interaction he has. It's a miracle he got married and managed to have a kid, you have to imagine he found some sweet but slightly stupid woman and made her feel so sorry for him she couldn't *not* marry him.
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WorthPlease Mar 25, 2026 +19
Funnily enough, Martin Freeman's character in the first season of Fargo is up there for me. His character even has a similar name.
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TheGRS Mar 26, 2026 +12
I mean it’s pretty much the same character with a different arc.
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Kalabula Mar 26, 2026 +1
Carl (Buscemis character) isn’t far behind him.
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vroart Mar 26, 2026 +1
“True coat”
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Mundane-Dare-2980 Mar 25, 2026 +228
Interesting that he approached the character that way. And it makes sense, I mean almost nobody thinks they’re a bad person; but I actually started to appreciate Fargo more my second watch, when I considered that Jerry actually wasn’t a fairly decent guy in a situation that spiraled out of his control. He was almost entirely made up of his “Minnesota nice” manners, and when those were stripped away he was every bit at deplorable as someone like Carl. It really helped unlock my appreciation of the movie.
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Mst3Kgf Mar 25, 2026 +127
It's interesting how he said Jerry's motivation is to provide for his family and very early on, Wade says "Jean and Scotty never have to worry." When Jerry means "family', he really means himself. Macy clearly understood this guy was a master of self-delusion from the get-go.
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holman Mar 25, 2026 +57
> When Jerry means "family', he really means himself. I’m rewatching BCS/Breaking Bad right now, and it’s interesting to read this as the exact same rationale behind Walter White, too (and many other characters over the years, too). It’s a rich characteristic to base a main character on.
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AngryGames Mar 26, 2026 +1
I believe that in the very beginning, Walt truly did convince himself it was for family, so they wouldn't have to worry one he was gone (and he was quite sure he wasn't going to survive - and as someone who went through stage 3 colon cancer treatment a few years ago, I feel like I understand even deeper about all those feelings, fears, etc).  But as the show goes on, regardless of his dark turn once he tastes power and money, we begin to get glimpses of his life before the cancer, the company he helped found, and we see that he was always a narcissist, not really a good person. All the dark aspects of his personality that become front and center by the end... that's who he always was, but for some reason, maybe having a kid, especially a special needs son, maybe having a wife who, despite all the hate from the Internet, was one of the only truly good characters, he just hid it well until circumstances brought it all back out.  BCS, which I love just as much, is similar. Except I always felt like Jimmy was not a good person, but was nowhere near as dark inside as Walt.  I've seen Fargo probably 40 times, and I've always assumed Jerry believed himself to be the hero of his story, but was such a pathetic idiot who thought himself smarter than everyone. 
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nixolympica Mar 26, 2026 +1
>maybe having a wife who, despite all the hate from the Internet, was one of the only truly good characters Sure if you just ignore the laundry list of fucked up things she did (including, ironically, laundering drug money). But then we could do that for every character, couldn't we? Poor Tuco just wanted to take care of his ailing tío...
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holman Mar 26, 2026 +1
Really good comment (and f*** cancer! Hope you’re good now.) I’m not a Lord of the Rings fan, really, but there’s something to be said for its explicit embodiment of desire, and wanting More. Once you get a little taste of that power, you just want More and More. I think it’s so compelling — in many mediums — because the initial goals may be moral, and just, and good, but they quickly bend and break. It’s a fascinating view, because I think everyone knows someone who has dealt with the same thing. And many of ourselves have, too.
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scowdich Mar 25, 2026 +38
Jerry was prideful. He wouldn't accept Wade's help to support his family, but he'd gladly steal from him.
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Murba Mar 26, 2026 +14
It's not a detail that is brought up, but the ending >!with him in the motel heavily implies that he abandoned his son as he went into hiding. His son just lost his mother, his grandfather, and now his father left him for his own cowardly purposes. He doesn't get much screen time, but when you consider all the things that happened, he absolutely got the worst outcome at such a young age.!<
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illegal_deagle Mar 26, 2026 +1
He got such an inheritance though probably.
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GoodGoodGoody Mar 25, 2026 +13
Nah, Jerry meant provide as in all. He just wasn’t any good at it. His father in law obviously saw that and warned him there were only two seats on the lifeboat.
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George__Parasol Mar 25, 2026 +30
I really love listening to good actors talk about surprising or unexpected or otherwise fascinating details that they specifically add to their performances. Clint Eastwood is mentioned in the article which is funny because I recently read that Carrie-Anne Moss said she really took a lot of influence from his iconic roles earlier in his career when she played Trinity. You probably wouldn’t see it on first glance but it makes a lot of sense once you realize it. It makes for an interesting character when familiar tropes or roles get reinterpreted into brand new things and ideas and by actors you may not first think of.
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zotboi Mar 25, 2026 +12
I’d never heard of this but that’s so interesting. Next time I rewatch the matrix I’ll have to look for the Trinity-Eastwood comparisons. They both exude a very cool and collected demeanor, with subtle face expressions rather than big emotions
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Prior-Program-9532 Mar 26, 2026 +7
"Dodge this"
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Irie_I_the_Jedi Mar 26, 2026 +1
Holy shit. Is that from Unforgiven?! Never made that connection. Cool
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vincentvangobot Mar 26, 2026 +11
I think most if not all Coen movies are about losers and f*** ups.
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click_butan Mar 26, 2026 +10
The intersection of great ambition + poor decision-making
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cornucopia090139 Mar 25, 2026 +13
And I’ll still hear people defend Walter white and c*** on Skyler because they think Walt is a good guy put in a bad situation, when he was already an arrogant prick before he was ever diagnosed, his cancer just gave him a release to be a shitty person. These all feel like different branches of Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde
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Mst3Kgf Mar 26, 2026 +12
FFS, Walt literally admits in the finale that it was all about him. It's pretty much the culmination of his character arc; admitting he did it all for himself in the end. The whole point of Walter White's story was realizing that he was a monster all along just waiting for the chance to emerge.
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs Mar 26, 2026 +9
A while ago in the BB sub Reddit there was someone arguing hard that Walt was doing it for his family. I showed them a video of Vince himself explaining how they’re wrong and they claimed I ruined the show for them then blocked me
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mitchdaman52 Mar 26, 2026 +5
Being blocked by that person is a win
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DoodleBuggering Mar 26, 2026 +1
Seriously? It's painfully obvious that Walt had years of pent up resentment and insecurity and relished finally feeling like he had power and control over his life and others. It's why he kept bringing Jesse back in, he loved someone he could control and feel superiority over. It's written clear as day, like how he got rid of Gayle because he was a peer and that's not what Walt wanted. If Walt truly cared about his family like he claimed, he would have taken up the paid treatment offer from Grey Matter, in spite of feeling like he was pushed out.
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Random-Generation86 Mar 25, 2026 +119
“And Peter just dropped the stunt guy right into the shredder.  I was horrified, but they kept rolling.  I think Joel might have had an erection.”
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SuspendeesNutz Mar 25, 2026 +24
Quiet you!
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Random-Generation86 Mar 25, 2026 +24
*is silent, but in a horny way*
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PitFiend28 Mar 25, 2026 +83
He starts to share but then flees the interview
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Ace7405 Mar 25, 2026 +38
He’s cooperating here.
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ahoypolloi_ Mar 25, 2026 +25
Ya darn tootin
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Mst3Kgf Mar 25, 2026 +11
He'll do a lot count, for Crissake!
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aeshleyrose Mar 25, 2026 +32
HE’S FLEEIN’ THE INTERVIEW!
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throwaway7826358 Mar 25, 2026 +16
Aw geez
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riftadrift Mar 25, 2026 +14
Ma'am, I answered your question!
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AF2005 Mar 25, 2026 +7
Ahh what the christ!
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Mst3Kgf Mar 25, 2026 +10
Where's an outside line?!
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MasterTeacher123 Mar 25, 2026 +38
I would’ve voted for that movie as best picture 
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bob_apathy Mar 25, 2026 +17
The English Patient won that year and it was insufferable imo but still not as big a travesty as Pulp Fiction losing to Forrest Gump.
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badabatalia Mar 26, 2026 +1
Saving Private Ryan (and the rest of the field) losing to Shakespeare In Love is by far the biggest best picture travesty of all time.
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JesusStarbox Mar 26, 2026 +1
Sorry but while it's close Forrest Gump deserved it.
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JamesHeckfield Mar 26, 2026 +7
But Forrest Gump is a classic!
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descendantofJanus Mar 26, 2026 +1
Sure but which are you more likely to put on for fun?
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JW_Stillwater Mar 26, 2026 +1
For fun? Forest Gump.
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BlueberryWasps Mar 26, 2026 +1
forrest gump isn’t some dry cerebral drama, it’s as much as dumb fun a popcorn flick as pulp fiction is with a completely different ethos
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GCDFVU Mar 25, 2026 +36
I'm surprised to see that he suggested Jerry rehearse the phone call to Wade. It's such a brilliant way to show how morally fucked up he is, I kinda can't believe it wasn't in the script the whole way
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SuperDryCider Mar 26, 2026 +11
I love that he was put on hold too lolol
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9millibros Mar 25, 2026 +27
The woodchipper is now on display at the Fargo Visitor's Center...it's also signed by the Coens.
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SuperDryCider Mar 26, 2026 +7
Stopped by Fargo on a road trip. A local brewery had a tasty beer called the wood chipper ipa
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HoamerEss Mar 25, 2026 +43
His role here is a masterclass in acting, period f*** you
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anuncommontruth Mar 25, 2026 +5
He really should have swept awards season.
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RiggsFTW Mar 25, 2026 +6
My favorite comment of the day. So aggressive. So true.
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holman Mar 25, 2026 +34
Everyone in Fargo hated this f****** movie before it came out. I mean, the trailer made it look like it was fairly insulting. But they gave a screener in town before it came out and everyone was like… oh. It’s a *really good* movie. And strangely, even though the accents became a thing in pop culture, it kind of was complimentary to the type of person who lived in Fargo (although virtually nothing from the movie actually took place in Fargo). Anyway, it quickly became a kind of source of pride for the town, and the TV show (imho) is even better. And now every time someone asks where I’m from, they’ve always heard of it, no matter where in the world I am. Kinda cool.
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs Mar 25, 2026 +29
I hate when people try to argue the Coens were making fun of the Midwest with this movie. They are from the Midwest. This is just their experiences heightened to their style of film making. And Marge is probably the only truly good character in any of their movies. Her arc isn’t about getting better or self destruction, it’s just about realizing that there are shitty people out there that she can’t comprehend
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holman Mar 25, 2026 +16
Macy says similar in the article here, too- that the movie wouldn’t have worked without Marge. I still see her marriage mentioned in terms of “how marriages should be” kind of things. “Heck Norm, we’re doing pretty good”.
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs Mar 25, 2026 +23
I could talk about the ending and how it’s the key to unlocking Coens morality all day. It’s so good. They get called existentialists, but I think they’re more inline with Camus’ absurdism. His philosophy is around accepting that the world is a chaotic meaningless mess but choosing to follow your passions and appreciate what you have in spite of it. Her big moment comes when she discovered her old friend lied to her about something pretty serious. Before that she couldn’t comprehend someone doing something so boldly immoral. This makes her go back and question Macys character again. Then she sees the wood chipper which shows how truly depraved the universe can be. Instead of letting that break her, she accepts people like that exist, she’ll never understand them, and chooses to go home and appreciate what she has in her loving husband. They double down on the theme by having her assign meaning to the 3 cent stamp beyond its actual value. Just such a perfect and exploration of great philosophy
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Evianicecubes Mar 26, 2026 +9
The scene with her hs friend seemed so out of place at the time. fargo seemed like pulp fiction with gore and violence just for their own sake, but it’s a nuanced film and that scene is an incredible moment that really is the heart of the heart of the film.
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Evianicecubes Mar 26, 2026 +9
Criticizing the Coens for hating their own characters is a real trope. I think it’s a much more realistic representation of real life that not every protagonist is James Bond or Jesus Christ
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hi-fen-n-num Mar 26, 2026 +5
Burn After Reading is a great example of this. Even 'Spy' departments have everyday idiots somehow in certain positions that clearly aren't based on merit, or it's a great way to de glorify certain environments/cliches. A Serious Man feels like they were aware of the trope and just teased the hell out of it.
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs Mar 26, 2026 +1
A Serious Man is another great exploration of their morality. The constant refrain we hear is “I didn’t do anything” and that’s Larry’s main complaint when something bad happens to him. In reality it’s his major flaw and the cause of all his problems. His wife is leaving him because he didn’t do anything, he’s not getting tenure because he didn’t do anything, and his life is falling apart because he doesn’t do anything. He thinks because he checked the boxes of being a “functional member of society” things should just work out. It’s an exploration of Simone de Beauvoir’s Ethics of Ambiguity, specifically the bad faith of having blind faith in an inherent system of the universe (an archetype called the serious man). It’s our moral obligation to seek true freedom and Larry refuses to which is why he’s punished.
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prex10 Mar 25, 2026 +13
I lived in Grand Forks for a while. About once a month I would meet someone whose accent was truly that over the top. People hated the accents but everyone also had an aunt or uncle who talked like that too lol
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holman Mar 25, 2026 +12
I grew up in Fargo and left for school. I remember disliking the accents in *Fargo* because no one ever talked like that. First time back was Christmas and I went to the mall. Saw my absolute number one high school crush walking by so I said hi. First thing out of her mouth was “Ooooh how ya doin??” in the most Fargo accent ever. Obviously she had talked like that forever but being away made me realize it for the first time. Went from huge crush to… “hm.” real quick, lol.
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prex10 Mar 25, 2026 +8
Yeh I grew up in Chicago and I'm out on the east coast now. When I go visit family and friends it's the same thing. You don't notice the accents until you're removed from them lol Same thing, ran into a girl, and never noticed how thick her accent was until now.
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Jealous_Lawfulness_2 Mar 25, 2026 +4
100%
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snesericreturns Mar 26, 2026 +1
Read this entire comment in my head in Frances Mcdormand’s voice.
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scarfilm Mar 25, 2026 +11
Oh what the Christ!
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GR1ML0C51 Mar 25, 2026 +11
Heck ya mean?
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dhlthecobra Mar 26, 2026 +4
(Steve Buscemi immediately mock him for his accent) - Heck ya mean?
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Deiseltwothree Mar 26, 2026 +6
They put that true coat on at the factory.
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StudentGlum8838 Mar 26, 2026 +1
Macy’s story about the wood chipper is an all-timer. The fact they used real pulp and he had to keep a straight face while covered in it is pure Coen magic.
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Keevan Mar 26, 2026 +3
Macy received an Oscar nomination for Best **Supporting** Actor What? He's the lead
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Jetztinberlin Mar 26, 2026 +1
Frances McDormand won Best Actress for this movie. She's the lead. 
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vroart Mar 26, 2026 +1
I wouldn’t call it “cult movie.” Big Lebowski is a cult movie, Fargo is their crime noire as Miller Crossing and Blood Simple. The awards it was nominated for shows where it belongs. And it’s a bleached out, repressed anger hidden in kindness. Truly a masterpiece of the modern era
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ours Mar 26, 2026 +1
30 years! I still remember watching it for English class. The teacher intended to take us see some other, more age-appropriate movie but got the schedule wrong. Good times.
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deadwood76 Mar 26, 2026 +1
GOATED movie.
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BestAccount69 Mar 26, 2026 -6
Why are we still platforming this man.
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_TillGrave_ Mar 26, 2026 +2
Oh man what happened? I googled but didnt come up with anything  Edit: oh was it the college admissions thing for their daughter? I totally forgot about that. 
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BestAccount69 Mar 26, 2026 -5
Yes. That. Fuckin rich people can do whatever they want and it f****** sucks. And I’m getting downvoted for that by some a****** who thinks William is going to f*** them one day.
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ulicqd Mar 26, 2026 +7
It 100% sucks rich fucks can get away with whatever they want. Also, his performance in Fargo is great and I'm interested in his take on it. World ain't black and white. Never meet your heros, or rather don't bother having heros, just recognize everyone can do great and shitty things in the same lifetime.
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BestAccount69 Mar 26, 2026 -1
I never said he was my hero. I think rich people shouldn’t get away with things.
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ulicqd Mar 26, 2026 +3
I know you didn't and I agree with you. The point is that it's ok to still be interested in someone's opinion or like someone's performance if they did something bad too. There are limits of course, but I don't think his shit is it. 
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BestAccount69 Mar 26, 2026 -2
Right. I get it. You can’t get away from your entertainment. I can tho.
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ulicqd Mar 26, 2026 +11
Hate to break it to you, everyone you've ever liked (including everyone in your family) has done something or said something you'd disown them for in a vacuum. Your holier than thou schtick is just a path to hating everything.  Edit: and just a path to being a massive hypocrite 
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SsooooOriginal Mar 26, 2026 +1
And your doormat pretending to be normal acceptance attitude in the face of completely absent accountability and responsibility is keeping us on this burning path down. You don't hate shit, and that's the problem. If you really hate them speaking their truth to call out the unaccountable, you very much are part of the problem.  Do you even vote?
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SqueeblyDoo Mar 26, 2026 +2
Those rich fucks...this whole f****** thing. 
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