Whenever a stampede article comes out, I have to mention that the problem is always crowd control and architecture (not group psychology).
When a crowd becomes a certain size, it becomes literally impossible to control your own movements. You are tossed around by the bodies surrounding you, and people are trampled or suffocate.
In some ways characterizing as a stampede allows officials in these situations to avoid responsibility. It might be more apt to call it a crowd crush.
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Remarkable-Guess1823Apr 13, 2026
+1
In the festival seen this is called human soup
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FootballWise1426Apr 12, 2026
+120
If you ever find yourself in a crowd crush incident, bring your arms in front of you like a “boxer’s stance," take a wide stance with feet firmly planted, do everything you can to stay upright and move diagonally to the edge of the crowded area. If you get knocked down, get in the fetal position and use your arms to protect your head and neck.
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worksnakeApr 12, 2026
+41
This guy crowd crush incident survives.
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sportsworker777Apr 12, 2026
+173
>Jean Henri Petit, head of Civil Protection for Haiti's Nord Department said the stampede occurred at the Laferriere Citadel, an early-19th-century fortress built shortly after Haiti's independence from France.
>One of Haiti's most popular tourist attractions, the fortress on Saturday was packed with students and visitors who had come to participate in the annual celebration of the UNESCO World Heritage site.
>...Petit said the stampede occurred at the entrance to the site, and that the rain further exacerbated the disaster.
Am I missing something? Why is this article so casual like a f****** stampede is just one of those things that happens? "Yeah it was crowded, and the rain didn't help." There are plenty of crowded celebrations, what happened here that caused a stampede?
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ForeverAclone95Apr 12, 2026
+112
Crowd crushes basically always happen because of poor crowd control protocols that result in restricted flows in narrow spaces. The trigger for that turning into a disaster can be many things or even nothing
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GofunkierttiApr 12, 2026
+106
Yeah much like building collapses during earthquakes they are completely preventable except for the most extreme situations with proper planning.
It's one of those things where you don't really notice how much work has gone into crowd planning every concert, arena or public event you have ever been too. Your so used to how safe you are that you don't even think of it as a threat.
Every part of your life in a western world there are so many instances where your life is saved by good government and regulations that you have never noticed. Every shock absorbing barrier on a highway, every clean and working sewer or every fire preventing regulation.
The problem is that you never noticed that your life was saved and you can't appreciate it. Your never going to notice that time good arena planning made a crush not happen. All your going to remember is being slightly annoyed by the stupid queue system they put in.
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sadriceApr 12, 2026
+27
Yup. We complain about red tape like building codes, not realizing that we aren’t complaining about losing loved ones in collapsed buildings.
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Responsible_Pizza945Apr 13, 2026
+2
A lot of tape is red because it's covered in blood
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monkeypickleApr 12, 2026
+6
Every advancement in keeping people safe was paid for with blood and suffering.
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the_corruptionApr 12, 2026
+2
This is exactly why we have anti vaxx bullshit today (among other things). We're so far removed from the actual dangers that have been prevented by all these regulations we've started to think the regulations are unnecessary.
Similar to to a common joke in IT circles. If everything is working fine people wonder why they need IT because they do nothing. If everything is fucked up they wonder why they need IT because obviously they're not doing they're job.
Idiots don't realize that if "nothing" is happening then sometimes that means people are in fact doing their job and doing it well. Sometimes the most important job is making sure "nothing" happens.
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DiarmundyApr 12, 2026
+8
I mean I'm sure a fortress doesnt have great ingress or egress. It's sort of the whole point
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dwhite21787Apr 12, 2026
+2
“We’re having visitors, hold off on the boiling oil”
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BlockatePollop2Apr 12, 2026
+12
"[Local media reported there were rumors that police in Milot used too much tear gas to break up a fight near the Citadelle, and that’s what caused the panic and subsequent stampede.](https://apnews.com/article/haiti-citadelle-laferriere-stampede-3e505492e9d43e8da7ccc3227cd85b77)"
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BlockatePollop2Apr 12, 2026
+5
Btw it turns out there was only one entrance in and out (bottleneck), and add the fact that it was raining at the time, that it had way more visitors than usual, and mass panic and shyt
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RevolutionaryStar295Apr 12, 2026
+1
They have tidied up their article already
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Kind_Commission_427Apr 12, 2026
+27
Some local media have cited unconfirmed rumours that police use of tear gas to break up a nearby fight may have contributed to the panic. The sudden deployment of gas, combined with restricted space at the historic site's entrance and heavy rain, allegedly caused the massive crowd of mostly young people to surge in panic, leading to the fatal stampede.
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Initial-Lead-2814Apr 12, 2026
+2
it rained
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bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Apr 12, 2026
+2
It can be anything. Imagine a massive group of people too tightly packed together. Some people slip and as they go down they fall on others or start pulling other people down with them. You then have a domino effect where people move all at the same time, desperately trying not to fall or let others fall on them. In a large crowd, people will notice some commotion and instinctively try to get away and panic when they realize they can't. Then the effect amplifies and pretty soon people start getting crushed.
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ssssharkattackApr 12, 2026
+3
I don’t want to be nonchalant, but it is Haiti. Information coming out could be incomplete for a while. And sure, there are plenty of crowded celebrations, but they don’t all take place in one of the most lawless countries on Earth.
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LwyrUpAmrcaApr 12, 2026
+1
As bad as it sounds, with all the horrors going on in Haiti atm, this barely cracks the top 100
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Ocarina-of-liesApr 12, 2026
-1
A stampede would be a frequent occurrence if they don't practice fire drills, which they clearly don't
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Maxamillion-X72Apr 12, 2026
+31
What a confusing article. There was a "stampede" and presumably it was people stampeding but I'm not sure. It talks about a tourist destination/UNESCO heritage site but doesn't say if the stampede was to get in or to get out or if it was just in the general vicinity. What caused the stampede, how many people/animals were in the stampede?
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MyAnusBleedsForYouApr 12, 2026
+30
It happened at the entrance of a popular tourist spot (fortress), and was possibly exacerbated by the weather. I'm gonna assume it's people, and more of a crowd crush than a stampede.
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SeanspeedApr 12, 2026
+2
Also looking at pictures of the place, I can see why people might get frightened and panic, as it's very high up and lots of places to fall if you're getting pushed around and without anywhere to go. Walkways are generally quite narrow as well. Not sure how effective any kind of crowd control could really have been other than simply refusing to let that number of people up there in the first place.
Really sucks.
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Initial-Sherbert-739Apr 12, 2026
+11
It says in the article - the stampede occurred at the entrance to the event. It was annual celebration at a popular attraction and there was heavy rain. aka big crowd in a limited space and people pushing to get inside to avoid the rain.
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Eager_PurpleOverdoseApr 12, 2026
+5
Stampede?
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azhillbillyApr 12, 2026
+10
Stampede doesn’t always mean fast running, it just means stepping on people.
When the crowd is too tightly packed people overheat and faint, fall down, and then people that can’t see what they are stepping on step on the fallen.
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xXxDickBonerz69xXxApr 12, 2026
+9
And they can even get packed in enough the crowd starts acting like a fluid and people are suffocated while standing up.
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Eager_PurpleOverdoseApr 12, 2026
+2
I didn't know that, thank you
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QuentinMagicianApr 12, 2026
-1
It sez stampede but not if people, cattle or why or how
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MyAnusBleedsForYouApr 12, 2026
+3
People. Happened at the entrance to a fortress that's a popular tourist spot. Possibly made worse by the weather.
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Redlight_GreenliteApr 12, 2026
+5
Number one tourist site? Who holidays in Haiti?
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unoriginalusername26Apr 12, 2026
+2
Cruise ships make stops.
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fireice113Apr 12, 2026
+3
Not in that area, I can assure you
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SeanspeedApr 12, 2026
+2
May shock you to learn that plenty of people vacation and travel in their own country. I live in London, but if I go visit Liverpool, I am still a tourist there.
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JazzScholarApr 12, 2026
+1
The north of the country where this happened is not where the violence is. Gang activity is very low here. - also, many people live in Haiti and inter country tourism still exists.
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CompetitiveLeague338Apr 12, 2026
+2
Horrific news from a constant struggling nation
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salaried_staffApr 13, 2026
+1
Nation struggling so much, there´s not a single image of the disaster itself.. I assume that poverty is so high, nobody had a cellphone with a camera to record it at the moment.
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SquirllApr 12, 2026
+2
For this article it seems Stampede = Crowd Crush incident. Probably some kind of translation issue, like a game of telephone.
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