BB-8 puppeteer Brian Herring says the Star Wars sequels are "no more polarizing than the prequels were" and "in 10 years' time" they'll be loved like the prequels, too

I don't think anyone ever grew to love Jar Jar Binks, even with all this extra time.

This arguement strikes back

The prequels I think were hugely salvaged by the related media (comics, The Clone Wars, etc), and Disney just can’t make that work for the sequels. Even Mando feels more like an OT sequel than a ST prequel

Ouch… This will be the part when we come to the conclusion that perhaps George knows what’s he is doing when it comes to his OWN lore? Nah!!!

Exactly lol

And that's a thing. The Prequels WERE a MESS--but underneath it all were some great things. It's George unleashed, when they needed someone to reign him and create coherence. They ended on a high note with Revenge of the Sith. It's messy, rushed at points, yet it was, even at the time, considered a fitting end to the Star Wars saga. The Sequels were always a blatant corporate product designed to milk a franchise. We're still flying X-Wings. The bad guys are still Storm Troopers. There are STILL no Jedi. And that's because, again, it's trying to nostalgia ride the Originals. Without a plan.

The complete and total waste of every single person's time. And I guess Luke Skywalker trying to kill a kid

A random kiss they inserted without any romantic buildup and a incoherent story and also the emporer survived somehow!

Don’t forget pod racing

“Anyone can be a Jedi.” “Nah, you actually are kinda usually born into it after all.” “Snoke is this trilogy’s Palpatine.” “Uh, this is a tough one but please stay with me - Palpatine is actually the Palpatine of this trilogy too. We’re as surprised as anyone.” “Finn is a great representation of how even a bad guy can become a hero and help save the universe.” “Wait, who is Finn? Who is the Rose lady too? Who is Officer Fantasm? We genuinely don’t know what to do with these nobodies.” “Rey and Kylo have this really interesting dynamic based on their opposing views of the force.” “People just really wanna see em smooching though, so that’s how we’ll end the trilogy.”  The entire trilogy is just so fundamentally disjointed, I don’t see how it’ll become a beloved  but flawed classic down the line like how a lot of people think of the prequels. JJ and Rian Johnson delivered almost nearly zero cohesion from one movie to the next and it legitimately made the overarching message of the sequel trilogy a lot of contradictory nonsense. I also think that media is so disjointed now with the internet and streaming, it’ll be hard for any movie or TV show to carry the same cultural phenomenon that Star Wars had back when in the 90s and before. 

Prequels also have loads of supplemental material from books, comics, on top of animated shows and live action series.

Yes, the prequels were a trilogy. The sequels were three movies with some of the same characters.

Yeah one was a sincere effort from a man who can't write dialogue, the other was corporate slop

Literally one of the most common criticisms of the prequels when they came out was how convoluted the plot was

This is one of the dumbest arguments for the prequels. You could absolutely drop the phantom menace from the trilogy and lose nothing. The rest of the story is told in a cartoon between the other movies. The "cohesive" part of the story was told in A New Hope by ObiWan in 2 minutes. George couldn't even be bothered to make any of that story fit with his prequels. The argument that "at least the prequels had other media to fill in the blanks" is a positive is wild to me. The other media was REQUIRED because the prequels fail on just about every level of cinematic story telling and they needed all this extra nonsense to work (and they still don't). I have a lot of things to say about the sequels, but it's a complete story that doesn't need anything else to help it out. It might be a stupid story, but it's as complete and cohesive as the original trilogy was (which was also made up as they went along).

And the prequels still had classic characters to rely on in major roles. Sure the sequels had Han, Leia etc but nobody enjoyed how those arcs went. So you're left with Rey Palpatine (f****** ridiculous) cast aside Finn and Han Solo 2.0  (Poe) Nothing very memorable there and no lasting endearing characters like Yoda, Mace etc. 

Divisive is an understatement lol

People don't give TFA enough shit tbh, it's recycled garbage with barely a unique thought

The prequels were original and came from a place of creativity. They were still trash, but they were an honest attempt by Lucas to make art (which he failed.) This is why they are still remembered as flawed but memorably quirky. The sequels were corporate garbage made by cobbling together open nostalgia bait and the best focus group tested moments an army of accountants could buy. They will be remembered only as an example of corporate greed attempting to buy goodwill by weaponizing people’s childhood memories. If they are remembered fondly it will only because open public conversation has been subsumed entirely by Disney Corp’s army of astroturfing and bots to create an artificial consensus.

The problem with the prequels is that they have large portions that are very boring. I don’t give a rat’s ass about trade federations. It made sense, unlike portions of the sequels. I just didn’t care.

Eloquently put

I don’t think any of the people who have put the prequels on some weird pedestal have watched them since they were 11. They are god awful movies on basically every front, except for the duel of the fates score.

The prequels were iconic

But the prequels were also a complete mess qnd f****** terrible films

It's been ten years, and opinions haven't shifted much.

If anything for the subtile and the closing scene should make it live in infamy. It should have been Legacy of Skywalker.

Na the last jedi is terrible, the f****** holdo maneuver working means they should have been sending suicide ships at all the big bads.

If it ended after the fight in the throne room and Rey had joined Kylo it would’ve been a great movie. Rey joining the dark side is an awesome unique concept for the star wars trilogy series. Maybe have Luke try and bring her back from the dark side in the 3rd movie or something like that. But no. We need a Mary Sue and to sell merchandise! She has to stay pure…and boring.

In ten years people aren’t going to ‘appreciate’ The Last Jedi, they’re just going to remember it as the movie that derailed the franchise and fractured the fanbase. It’s not some misunderstood masterpiece aging like wine.

And where's the kids who now "love" the sequels. Cause as someone who watched em during middle and high school, I can tell you they were my first ever time realizing "wow, just because its on theaters doesn't mean its good" No it wasnt my first bad movie, just the first boring one

If kids liking something is a determining factor to if it’s good, you could say any movie is good.

A lot of kids like the sequels too. When the prequels came out adults were sending death threats to child actors and George Lucas. The kid who played Anakin had to drop out of school and had a mental breakdown in part because of the harassment. Star Wars has always had a large, toxic element in it's fanbase that don't really represent reality, no matter how loud their tantrums are.

Same. I liked Force Awakens even though a lot of people were hating on it. I thought it was a decent start of a new trilogy and that it would go places because, hey, it’s Star Wars! Of course it’s all planned out right? Then I saw TLJ and pretty much stopped caring entirely about Star Wars overnight. I wasn’t super pissed, I wasn’t ranting about it online. I just stopped giving a shit. Didn’t even watch ROS.

People will study the failure of the sequel trilogy in film classes.