blog.listnook: We've revamped our sponsored links! [with an explanatory comic by TheOatmeal]

I'd vote let the purchaser decide how much money they want to spend on each one within the order, so they could say hey I want to spend $15 on /r/pics and $5 /r/some_obscure_listnook

Alright guys, it's **internet airplane** time!

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As an advertiser who uses listnook ads, I can only give 2 thumbs up to anything that would keep my ad around longer!

That's how ads are supposed to work. They plant the idea of something in your head, so when you need it you'll remember. Where did this idea that they're about tricking you into clicking or buying something come from?

Yea me too - I often seek out Internet advertisers for fun and adventure. Many times in my life I have seen an Ad for something and then later wished like hell I could find it. I click on everything btw. If it moves, I click on it. I'm actually building a database that tracks Ads I see on websites so that I can go back later and click on them. I have a custom mouse driver that clicks on shit even when I'm sleeping. How much would you guys pay for a database and automatic mouse clicker that tracks all ads?

Weird ... "403 Forbidden" for me on the sublistnook home page.

Adultfriendfinder was on here too...

Sent.

I think it'd be better if you were told what the current ad-market is on listnook, so you can estimate how much it's going to cost you to get a certain percentage of the ad-space. If I buy advertising on TV or Radio, I am told exactly how many times my ad will air and I know for how long it will be airing and during what shows. On listnook, if I put in $200/day from my budget to advertise here, then I have no idea how much ad-space that's going to buy. It could buy 10% ($2000 total/day for listnook ad revenue) or .5% ($40,000/day for listnook ad revenue) I have no idea what your ad revenues are like, but if you're making $2000 a day, and I put in $20/day, that's not going to get me a lot of sponsored ad-space/time. And it will get worse, the more people advertise on listnook. I think it's not too much to ask for an estimate of what a current ad-buy will get me on listnook. You could just put a little % thing next to the money/date box on the campaign page to give me an estimate of what my exposure will be for the dates I specified (as listnook knows it currently). Then I can just monitor that % as long as my campaign lasts, and increase my daily ad-buy if I feel it's insufficient. Edit: >Like buying an ad on the radio. You have an estimated audience, but they can't guarantee a cost per listener. > >Either the ad did what you wanted or it didn't. It's a cost of business. A notable difference in the advertisement styles: You can guarantee a known % of the audience on a radio show will hear the advertisement, and then guess what % of people on that show will act on the ad. On listnook, not everyone is being served the same ad at the same time - only at the same rate. If I buy in a daily amount of 1% of the listnook ad space/time, then I'll get exposed to 1% of the users IF they click through listnook 100 times - and because it's exposing only that person to the ad, not the entire population of listnook at once, the chance of someone clicking on my ad (or using it) is more obfuscated, and I'd expect lower % than a radio ad (for people who don't click listnook 100 times per cycle).

What's the minimum amount that can be paid? If I put in $1, am I guaranteed that only one listnookor will ever see it? Can I use this to target ads to lucky winners with whom I hope to become best friends? Any chance we can put something in our ad photo that can be dynamically replaced with the name of the currently signed-in listnookor? Maybe it could just be a pink box that gets replaced with a rendered username in a choice of colors from a palette list on the purchase page. I could put up an ad that says something like: "Hey [jedberg]. That's right, I'm talking to you, and only you in this one-time advertisement. Wanna be besties? PM me! -gfixler" Whoever had the luck of the draw would see my ad and know they had a place forever in my world, and in my heart.

There is a very reasonable estimate on what the radio audience will be. It's not a c*** shoot. And if there was a large variance in the audience due to lower than expected listeners, the advertiser receives a make-good.

Yea, I was really surprised at [the response I got from jedberg](http://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/bxeer/bloglistnook_weve_revamped_our_sponsored_links_with/c0p1seg). It started out sounding like someone that had no experience with or understanding of advertising and then ended up somewhat unprofessional.

It's just not usable info. Advertisers need to be able to control costs. That gives a range for the past week, but as you can see, today's CPM more than doubles anything before it, which if I was spending real money would be disastrous to my ad budget.

But he would guarantee a huge number of impressions. If some dude selling kitty sweaters posts an ad for $100, and Microsoft decides to drop $a bajillion on listnook ads, two things are going to happen: a) listnook staff relocates to the bahamas, and b) Mr. Kitty Sweaters gets screwed, hard.

Wow, Google really likes listnook. You posted that comment 3 minutes ago and it's already a [top result](http://imgur.com/mVCHA.jpg) for "Laser Penises" (with quotes).

Have no fear, [LaserTits are here](http://www.listnook.com/r/LaserTits/)! EDIT: THIS JUST IN: Holy shit! I made that sublistnook but it turns out there's actually [an entire site dedicated to this](http://www.lazertits.com/).

The world was just not ready for it yet

How ridiculous is it that we have web sites dedicated to one video clip. Or sound. Or whatever.

That's seriously bizarre, why not go with "hey you have a visa or a mastercard? We want your money" as almost everybody else does? Credit card fees?

Dudes, I've been wanting to spend some good money here... get this working, OK?

Understood, but to help you get some numbers to wave at your lawyers: I'm a UK user who was accepted in the beta but am still waiting to give you my money.

Really? Every time I try (this week) it says something along the lines of "our servers are too busy, try again later..."

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> listnook subscriptions First, I think the targeted self-serve ads are a good step in the right direction. (As in another thread being able to target more than one listnook, etc.) Second, why not both? Why not have subscriptions which enable more features, such as "disable promoted links" and give (optional) user page badges, etc.

wow, I was gonna make a joke about a "bacon rash" by taking a rash photo and photoshopping it into the shape of bacon, but then I googled "rash" and now.. umm... not feeling so funny anymore.

Well....how much do they pay you? :-P

UPVOTED THIS SO HARD.

I get that a lot.

I dislike Dane Cook a great deal. +1

I suspect it's only a matter of time before a bunch of ads for porkchop milkshakes start appearing on listnook, live site or not..

Freeman: "Follow the trail of pony farts to your pork chop milkshake..." ...?

Everyone wants me to narrate their life. My inner monologue is beautiful.

RAZZLE DAZZLE!

Is it the shoes!?

That would be me. :) As soon as the whois info filters though, it will point to something cool.

The real karma thresholds are much more lenient than the numbers you give.

That's exactly what TheOatmeal would say if Saydrah used her admin css hack to grant him entry to MercurialMadnessMan's raldisphere. Nice try, TheOatmeal.

[Official statistics to back that up](http://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/bnskk/youve_just_been_drafted/c0noiqk?context=1)