Britain condemns Israeli strikes on Lebanon in split from Trump

Well, it's just that the ideological edge of the far right has become distinctly *unprofitable* now. It turns out that sometimes, when you get somebody pretending to be a clown, it turns out that they aren't just pretending.

Finally someone who actually read some history. You're very level headed about this, but I assure you that most people absolutely have that intent. Most of these online arguments stem from bots trying to destabilize the west.

Doesn't excuse all the non-Israeli Jewish supporting them just because of religion. I edited my previous post because I didn't want to sow discourse but I changed my mind after all. F*** religion and their religious zealots.

Your last point is really the crux of it. Republicans have figured out how to have everything in lock step - donors/lobbyists paying off the politicians also control the media that the voters watch and follow without question. A perfect loop. Though it's nothing new, it's just how fascism works - lowest common denominator is the easiest thing to sell. With Dems, most of the politicians are also taking Israel money as well as many of them are old and thus come from a time when Israel support was unquestioned. But modern Dem voters are watching the news and reacting in what I believe is quite sensible ie horrfied. So there's an extremely frustrating disconnect. But I believe over the next 4 main election cycles, many Dem candidates will need to rethink their stance on Israel.

I'd love to think they're "seeing the light" but that's never how it goes. However, history has shown that there can be macro shifts in societal sentiment that creates an inevitable shift in terms of political platforms and policy. If you said to someone in 1938 that black people are going to have more legally obligated equality and Jim Crow would be outlawed, you'd have been laughed out of the room. I think it always starts with a minority of people saying "this isn't right", and as they keep pushing, sometimes broader society goes "this doesn't really make sense" or "yeah this thinking is outdated." It happened with civil rights, feminism, gay marriage, etc. It doesn't always stay permanent, and not all movements become successful. But I think right now, more and more people are looking at Israel and saying "this doesn't really seem to benefit us in any way, and by the way, all these dead innocent people sure does look bad." However we're in the messy middle and will be for a while. However, once dead soldiers start popping up on the news (I'm convinced Trump won't be able to help himself and will absolutely put boots on the ground), more people are gonna get even more frustrated.

They killed 500 or so civilians as well but I take your point. The ironic thing is that if the IRA had actually been a true threat to the UK, they would have quite probably been destroyed. Because they remained fairly minor and didn't push too hard, there wasn't enough justification or public pressure for the British to prosecute them more vigorously.