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News & Current Events Apr 9, 2026 at 11:45 AM

Britain condemns Israeli strikes on Lebanon in split from Trump

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Criticall16 Apr 9, 2026 +2447
Even Marine Le Penn is condemning them bruh. They even lost the French anti Muslim right
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crowwreak Apr 9, 2026 +1249
How the f*** do you lose Le Pen on drone striking Muslims?
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0xc0ba17 Apr 9, 2026 +329
More war in the Middle East means more Middle Eastern refugees in Europe.
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tophernator Apr 9, 2026 +112
Yeah, but more refugees means more anti-immigration sentiment that can be weaponised by far right parties. I would think Le Pen has just realised that going against Trump is the popular move in Europe right now.
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PreWiBa Apr 9, 2026 +60
Yes, but at some point your voters understand that too, and dont want you to support it.
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Darth_Nox501 Apr 9, 2026 +21
>means more anti-immigration sentiment that can be weaponised You don't need physical immigrants in your country in order for you to spread anti-immigrant sentiments. There are most definitely some rednecks in bumfuck Nebraska that haven't seen a non-white person in the flesh, and yet still are shaken to the core about "immigrants stealing our jobs," and thus vote MAGA. I'm sure you see similar in rural France.
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DramaticStability Apr 9, 2026 +4
That's always been the case yet now they speak up
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ritonlajoie Apr 9, 2026 +398
they also drone strike Christian neighbourhoods
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Free_Aardvark4392 Apr 9, 2026 +124
Marine's party has close ties with Lebanese Christians.
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aaegler Apr 9, 2026 +5
And even synagogues in Iran.
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WellsFargone Apr 9, 2026 +106
By being unmeasured and bringing too much attention that you can’t do it anymore
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Maneisthebeat Apr 9, 2026 +285
Nope. Otherwise Gaza would have been enough for this already. Countries are speaking up now because the Strait of Hormuz being closed affects them directly and financially. It's nothing to do with human life, morality, war crimes or ethics. It's about money, the most important thing in the world.
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Krags Apr 9, 2026 +14
And big business has ever backed the far right when feeling threatened (or when they felt like they could get away with it.) Business Plot for example.
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Ferelar Apr 9, 2026 +26
I mean just generally they always do, one of the core tenets of fascism is privatizing, elevating, and empowering businesses (over and above the indicidual with the sole exception of party leadership), whereas the left tends to regulate, curtail, and stop them from abusing people. Of course the corposcum are gonna go hard right whenever the option prevents itself. So for them to split with the far right even a bit, just because said far right is being SO brazenly stupid about their immorality, that's actually pretty major.
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Krags Apr 9, 2026 +2
Well, it's just that the ideological edge of the far right has become distinctly *unprofitable* now. It turns out that sometimes, when you get somebody pretending to be a clown, it turns out that they aren't just pretending.
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cantadmittoposting Apr 9, 2026 +11
i mean... fwiw it's also the lives of "their own citizens" instead of people far away from them... oil and the rest of the trade through Hormuz has real impact on people's lives, but now those people are struggling citizens of their own nation.   Also to be clear i think ignoring Israel's atrocities just because they aren't killing your citizens is short sighted and stupid. Without building a whole philosophy, in short, it's very clear that the less we spend on killing each other anywhere on the globe, and the more we spend raising our standard of living and peaceful uses of resources, the better all of us will be globally.
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Doxjmon Apr 9, 2026 +19
Bingo. They only give a shit because they're not getting their oil. They'll also only give a shit again when Iran get nukes and starts threatening terrorist attacks on their soil.
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4Rascal Apr 9, 2026 +16
I had a similar thought. Wasn’t this one of the, if not the actual, largest strike they’ve done in Lebanon? Surely it must have been some kind of statement of their rejection of Americas ceasefire/negotiation period? What’re the odds they would randomly do that right after the start of some kind of agreement? They had to have at least considered the implications
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_throawayplop_ Apr 9, 2026 +22
She's not her father and anyone with a brain realizes it's bad for France even if you like to see Muslims being bombed. I even did not see Eric Zemmour the most pro Israel politician supporting the current war (but I could have missed it) By the way even her father wasn't especially against Muslims as long as they were not in France, he was friends with Saddam Hussein for example. Which is very ironic when you know he fought to keep Algeria in France, which would have added 40 million Muslims to the country.
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Whiterabbit-- Apr 9, 2026 +7
they don't mind colonies of Muslims as long as they don't live next door to them.
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fiction8 Apr 9, 2026 +6
France has always liked to claim their colonies are part of the metropole, a vestige of morality from the French Revolution. A consequence of that is they allow free travel in between all territories they categorize as a department. So if they did still control Algeria then they wouldn't be able to stop anyone living there from moving to France any time they wanted.
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PreWiBa Apr 9, 2026 +7
Bruh, they didn't even allowed Algerians to get proper education. Algeria was an equal part of the Metropole on paper only.
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Arexander00 Apr 10, 2026 +2
You're assuming Monsieur LePen was in favour of granting them equal rights. The whole Algerian War happened explicitly because it was de facto apartheid/segregation, Muslims in French Algeria were not granted full citizenship rights and equality
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Standard_Region555 Apr 9, 2026 +2
Algeria was a part of metropolitan France, not just a normal colony. DeGaulle realized France would be majority Arab if they didn't give the Algerians the independence they fought for lmao
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Leomonice61 Apr 9, 2026 +50
The U.K., Poland, France and Italy are disgusted with the actions of the USA and Italy and Poland are run by a right wing populist PM.
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xorgol Apr 9, 2026 +17
> Poland are run by a right wing populist PM. What? Donald Tusk?
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Brief_Hospital_1766 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Donald Tusk does not run Poland. EDIT: nm he said 'PM'
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Leomonice61 Apr 9, 2026 +4
Point taken, my understanding is that Poland is sure leaning away from liberal or centrist policies though, that’s understood by talking to the numerous Poles I work alongside
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xorgol Apr 9, 2026 +11
My understanding is that their government was leaning away from liberal and centrist policies before they elected this government.
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xixbia Apr 9, 2026 +2
Donald Tusk is prime minister of Poland. Meanwhile the prime minister of Italy was literally part of a neo-fascist party as a student (and her current party is very much a far right populist party). So I think you got the countries switched up there.
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BallsInSufficientSad Apr 9, 2026 +87
Because Le Penn is in Russia's pocket and russia is on Iran's side.
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mincepryshkin- Apr 9, 2026 +28
Are the French, British, Spanish, and Australian governments also in Russia's pocket? It's not a conspiracy. Most people in the West want the war to be over, and dont like seeing images of flattened apartment buildings when they've just been told there's meant to be a ceasefire. So supporting the bombing is a vote killer, and nobody wants to be associated with it. It's that simple. If anything, Russia benefits from Hormuz being closed, so it's in their interest that the ceasefire fails and Iran keep the straights shut. Energy scarcity increases the chance of more people de-sanctioning Russian energy.
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Bitter_Tea442 Apr 9, 2026 -2
It amazing how easily the left is tricked when they think a right winger like Le Pen is agreeing with them.
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human-in-a-can Apr 9, 2026 +3
It's like making a fat guy hate all-you-can-eat buffets. Something had to go *really* wrong.
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Friendly-Fuel8893 Apr 9, 2026 +123
It's not that surprising. Israël's constant bombing could create new refugees, a lot of which will flock to Europe. That's not something Europeans are waiting for, especially not on the right.  On the other hand another migration crisis will be great for the far right parties when it comes to votes. But since le Pen was convicted of embezzlement I'm not sure she could even run again even if she wanted to so I doubt she's got elections on her mind. I honestly don't think she's that concerned about Muslims getting bombed, she just doesn't want more brown people at her border.
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hiddenvalleyoflife Apr 9, 2026 +20
> constant bombing could create new refugees It would be nice if other Europeans realized that this is exactly the plan, and that if they want fewer refugees (and less immigration in general) it's in their best interest to support parties that don't have close ties to war-hungry autocrats in other countries. Most people don't want to leave their home country if their home country doesn't suck.
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johnbarnshack Apr 9, 2026 +3
You are assuming that the far right anti-immigrant rhetoric is in good faith, that they actually want to prevent / solve that problem. I'm not sure that's true.
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BaldFraud99 Apr 9, 2026 +46
Populists are gonna populist and Israel/US popularity is deservedly at an all time low. Crazy how much soft power and sympathy those two have thrown overboard in these past few years.
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airship_of_arbitrary Apr 9, 2026 +5
The only electable politicians in 2028 will be those that condemn Israel's atrocities.
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Gentle_Snail Apr 9, 2026 +1106
The UK have been increasingly distancing themselves from Israel, they ended trade negotiations, put limits on exports of offensive weapons, and have sanctioned major Israeli politicians such as the head of National Security and the Head of Finance. Starmer has also changed Britains UN policy from automatically voting in defence of Israel, recognised Palestine, and has refused to help shoot down Iranian missiles heading for the country since Israel instigated the 2025 Iran conflict (which the UK previously did).
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QuerulousPanda Apr 9, 2026 +357
if the world ever actually wakes up and turns against Israel, it's going to be a landslide of absolutely insane proportions. Once the public is allowed to have an actual honest, moral understanding of what Israel has been doing to their neighbors and their supposed allies, it's going to be really bad for them.
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ballisticks Apr 9, 2026 +224
It's honestly amazing how shielded that country is by people just throwing the word "antisemitism" at any legitimate criticism
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kaisadilla_0x1 Apr 9, 2026 +126
Unironically speaking, Nazism shocked the West so much that we just allowed Israel to do whatever they wanted with no question, and that already started bad, but has been evolving for the worse for decades. If you take the last 20 years alone, when Israel wasn't threatened by anyone anymore, what they've done to Palestinians is horrifying and not above Nazism. Israel clearly wants their land but not their people (as that would turn Israel into an Arab-majority country); so they instead make the whole place unlivable. They shoot kids dead not because they want to exterminate them (they want, but they can't) - but simply so Palestinians know their two options are to leave, or to remain in a place where your kid may be killed for no reason and without consequences.
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ballisticks Apr 9, 2026 +42
Yeah its like "you guys have been treated horribly in the past so we're literally going to let you get away with murder now" It's just frustrating that when it comes up in conversation, I have to reiterate over and over again that I: a) do not have a problem with Jews, b) do not have a problem with them having a nation, and c) am not an insane Hamas member just because I don't condone the wholesale eradication of another people. It's exhausting.
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cubedplusseven Apr 9, 2026 +31
> Yeah its like "you guys have been treated horribly in the past so we're literally going to let you get away with murder now" This is a pop-cultural understanding of geopolitics that doesn't reflect reality. Israel's allignment with the West cemented during the Cold War. Both British and American intelligence leading up to the 1948 war predicted Arab victory. And the British, in particular, weren't particularly concerned about what that outcome would look like. Neither did anything to stop it - it was Czechoslovakia that sent weapons. The US remained politically distanced from Israel until 1967, and it was really 1973 when the current relationship was formed. The Soviets backed the Arab powers, and the threat of direct Soviet intervention drew in the US - the 1973 war, along with the Cuban Missile Crisis, was a peak in the possibility of nuclear confrontation between the US and the Soviets. Since then, Israel has been an ally to the West in a region where politics is unpredictable and frequently anti-Western. Although I know it's not your intent, there's an implication to your claim that kind of uses the Holocaust as cudgel against the Jewish state.
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Explorer_Dave Apr 9, 2026 +7
Finally someone who actually read some history. You're very level headed about this, but I assure you that most people absolutely have that intent. Most of these online arguments stem from bots trying to destabilize the west.
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Edgar-Allans-Hoe Apr 9, 2026 +14
No, we are just against killing children, women, and innocents en masse to create an ethonostate. Its actually VERY, extremely simple.
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arrogant_ambassador Apr 10, 2026 +2
I think you're wrong because he world has had an actual honest, moral understanding of what Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran are capable of, and they are marching in the streets in support.
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mucus-fettuccine Apr 9, 2026 +14
Some of this can hardly be considered distancing. Suspending negotiations for an updated free trade agreement (while still continuing free trade with Israel under a previous agreement) does mean a bit I suppose. I think the bigger one is limiting exports of weapons. Are the limits on exports of offensive weapons anything new? AFAIK the UK has consistently been using a piecemeal restriction to pressure Israel into softening their aggression and abiding by international humanitarian laws.
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Gentle_Snail Apr 9, 2026 +5
Yeah it was brought in in September 2024 in response to Gaza. There had been previous much less restrictive limits before as well, however no new limits had been brought in since 2014.
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[deleted] Apr 9, 2026 +983
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IceMysterious3056 Apr 9, 2026 +359
Can't the rest of the world not place some sort of sanctions on Israel?
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Least1Difficulty Apr 9, 2026 +824
That would be anti-sematic, you need to consider the feelings of the people dropping bombs on kids. How would they feel if you said something mean to them?
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NCSUGrad2012 Apr 9, 2026 +132
I wish this was satire, but this is how we treat them
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Etheo Apr 9, 2026 +38
For a group of people with such history you'd think they have a full understanding of the pain and suffering behind these atrocities and walk away as the better person.
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Nolenag Apr 9, 2026 +27
They don't have that history, Israel wasn't founded by holocaust survivors and they still treat holocaust survivors badly.
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Etheo Apr 9, 2026 +14
Doesn't excuse all the non-Israeli Jewish supporting them just because of religion. I edited my previous post because I didn't want to sow discourse but I changed my mind after all. F*** religion and their religious zealots.
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KidOcelot Apr 9, 2026 +2
Maybe some groups of people have violence and aggression so ingrained in them, that they cant think otherwise. Here’s an old 2004 interesting case study, where aggressive baboons suddenly died from tainted food. Only the calm and kind baboons remained, and the whole social structure of the troop became clam and kind too. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/get-mellow-fellow-male-baboons-cooperate-after-cultural-prodding
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TallmanMike Apr 9, 2026 +2
Never again! .. ..*to us*.
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philosophyofblonde Apr 9, 2026 +15
At some point, the post-Holocaust fig leaf will disintegrate. Maybe not today, but the day is coming.
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Slendercan Apr 9, 2026 +75
The more the world splits from the US, the more likely sanctions become. When you look at polling the vast majority of countries’ majority have a negative view of Israel or at the very least, the Netanyahu government. It’ll get to the point where it’s political suicide to continue supporting Israel.
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Gender_is_a_Fluid Apr 9, 2026 +11
America has had a majority negative view of Israel for years now but here we are. The politicians don’t listen and obey the people anymore
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swampy13 Apr 9, 2026 +12
[It's only been a majority the last 2 years](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/04/07/negative-views-of-israel-netanyahu-continue-to-rise-among-americans-especially-young-people/) But the main issue is that Republicans will never ever back down on Israel. However, the last 2-4 years have seen [major swings among independents and Dems.](https://news.gallup.com/poll/702440/israelis-no-longer-ahead-americans-middle-east-sympathies.aspx) I don't think the US is gonna abandon Israel because half the country will always support them. But losing a good chunk of the other half makes it much more precarious. And I believe that, combined with all the terrible things Israel is doing, is going to embolden their enemies in ways they haven't been before.
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Gender_is_a_Fluid Apr 9, 2026 +12
Yeah, the republican base is seriously bouying the favorability percentage, 80% of dems being against israel is crazy when you look at the dems in congress and their ardent support for israel. I do think that republican favorability is held because there are very very many republicans that allow media to completely inform their opinions.
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swampy13 Apr 9, 2026 +8
Your last point is really the crux of it. Republicans have figured out how to have everything in lock step - donors/lobbyists paying off the politicians also control the media that the voters watch and follow without question. A perfect loop. Though it's nothing new, it's just how fascism works - lowest common denominator is the easiest thing to sell. With Dems, most of the politicians are also taking Israel money as well as many of them are old and thus come from a time when Israel support was unquestioned. But modern Dem voters are watching the news and reacting in what I believe is quite sensible ie horrfied. So there's an extremely frustrating disconnect. But I believe over the next 4 main election cycles, many Dem candidates will need to rethink their stance on Israel.
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Slendercan Apr 9, 2026 +2
It has been interesting to see elements of the right pivot to an anti Israel and anti Trump approach. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones and Candace Owens have all done a 180. They can see the turn in public opinion and are trying to capitalise and ride a new wave of populism. Italy’s Giorgia Meloni seems to be going a similar route. Whilst establishment politicians look more and more int he pocket of Israel, populists will use the alternative stance as a way into power. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the right in America split in two - Vance possibly heading the new movement now that he’s getting frozen out by Trump?
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swampy13 Apr 9, 2026 +2
I'd love to think they're "seeing the light" but that's never how it goes. However, history has shown that there can be macro shifts in societal sentiment that creates an inevitable shift in terms of political platforms and policy. If you said to someone in 1938 that black people are going to have more legally obligated equality and Jim Crow would be outlawed, you'd have been laughed out of the room. I think it always starts with a minority of people saying "this isn't right", and as they keep pushing, sometimes broader society goes "this doesn't really make sense" or "yeah this thinking is outdated." It happened with civil rights, feminism, gay marriage, etc. It doesn't always stay permanent, and not all movements become successful. But I think right now, more and more people are looking at Israel and saying "this doesn't really seem to benefit us in any way, and by the way, all these dead innocent people sure does look bad." However we're in the messy middle and will be for a while. However, once dead soldiers start popping up on the news (I'm convinced Trump won't be able to help himself and will absolutely put boots on the ground), more people are gonna get even more frustrated.
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JarasM Apr 9, 2026 +5
Nobody wants to get the fallout from that. Israel is effectively the 51st state of the US.
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Vaeon Apr 9, 2026 +3
> Can't the rest of the world not place some sort of sanctions on Israel? Thank you, I needed a good laugh.
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MancunianSunrise Apr 9, 2026 -14
You do realise that Lebanon has been allowing hezbollah to attack Israel? What should Israel do? Just take it and keep their northern cities constantly running for shelter under daily rockets? So western countries can feel good about 'peace'? If there's sanctions, let's include Lebanon.
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Anonymousma Apr 9, 2026 +10
Not bomb neighborhoods and apartment buildings.
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Enshakushanna Apr 9, 2026 +6
>What should Israel do? not actively do things to grow hezbollahs popularity
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jmacintosh250 Apr 9, 2026 +14
Disagree: the better plan is someone else finally grow a damn pair and enforce the ceasefire. The problem is the Irish and others there just sit and watch. It’s why Israel feels comfortable shooting at or near them: what are they gonna do about it? They didn’t do anything against Hezbollah.
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Whatshouldiputhere0 Apr 9, 2026 +3
Ok, but what should Israel do?
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No-Bar708 Apr 9, 2026 +15
It would be a process, but ending West Bank settlements, and working towards allowing Palestinian self determination would do a lot to lower tensions in the region.
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Ok_Astronomer_8667 Apr 9, 2026 +56
They act with impunity because they know they have the U.S. on a leash.
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LittleMlem Apr 9, 2026
More likely they believe that letting Hezbollah rearm will cost them more than the political issues. Also, ballsy move by the UK to criticize the borders they made and then just abandoned
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cheshire-cats-grin Apr 9, 2026 +10
I love how you made this comment - and within 10 minutes that is almost exactly what happened.
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milkonyourmustache Apr 9, 2026 +3
Because they know that the US has their back completely.
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Viscerid Apr 9, 2026 -1
If France were launching 10s of thousands of missiles at the UK with no intention of stopping and UK then launched missiles at France, would Chile condemning the UK make them change their approach of trying to keep their population safe?
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Curious_Mind_1998 Apr 9, 2026 +287
The word condemn doesn't have any true power or meaning anymore. It's like yelling at the clouds to stop raining instead of taking any real measures.
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No_Basket_9192 Apr 9, 2026 +88
I see it more like a political stance than an attempt to stop something happening. It let's the world know where you stand.
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BallsInSufficientSad Apr 9, 2026 +39
If you read the British statement, they didn't even use that word. Title is a bit of an exaggeration.
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The_Artist_Who_Mines Apr 9, 2026 +22
This is a child's understanding of politics. A Donald Trump tier opinion.
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GreasyToken Apr 9, 2026 +1
Tell me more about these more serious measures we can take against clouds.
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TheTelegraph Apr 9, 2026 +189
Britain has split with Donald Trump over Israel’s attacks on Lebanon. Yvette Cooper, the Foreign Secretary, warned that Israel’s strikes were “deeply damaging” and risked destabilising the region. Both Mr Trump and Israel insist Lebanon is not covered by the ceasefire agreement, but Iran says it is. Ms Cooper’s comments will probably damage further the strained relationship between the US president and Nato. **Read more:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/04/09/britain-condemns-israeli-strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/?WT.mc\_id=tmgoff\_listnook\_strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel\_open](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/04/09/britain-condemns-israeli-strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_listnook_strikes-on-lebanon-in-split/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open)
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crowwreak Apr 9, 2026 +72
Yvette condemning this is super interesting because she's always been a fairly big name in Labour Friends of Israel
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jameson71 Apr 9, 2026 +7
> Both Mr Trump and Israel insist Lebanon is not covered by the ceasefire agreement, but Iran says it is. So basically there was no actual agreement? This seems more vague than an extended car warranty.
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tripping_yarns Apr 9, 2026 +76
Risks destabilising the area? Has she just got back from the f****** moon?
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[deleted] Apr 9, 2026 +139
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foghillgal Apr 9, 2026 +54
British will say it\`s a bit damp when they\`re sitting chest deep in puddles, they understate everything.
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RoughVirtual1626 Apr 9, 2026 +10
It's the UK - every thing is damp
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Rocktopod Apr 9, 2026 +5
To be fair they also have a different standard for dampness.
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Andraste_Blaze Apr 9, 2026 +20
The UK has stated the ceasefire does include Lebanon on its official government website.  Edit since it's been mentioned a couple of times: UK plays no part in the peace process but having support will keep pressure where it's needed on the countries responsible for violating the ceasefire.
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Beard_o_Bees Apr 9, 2026 +10
How hard is it for Israel to, you know, maybe *not* shell Lebanon for a couple of weeks? It's like Israel wants the violence to spread and escalate. They knew/know exactly what Iran's reaction would be, which is why they made sure it was super visible.
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Cactusfan86 Apr 9, 2026 +69
I’m not sure how much Israel cares, but they are truly becoming a pariah state.  They have totally lost the left in the western world and major cracks are forming in right wing support.  Can Israel truly go it alone if it comes to that point?  
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disisathrowaway Apr 9, 2026 +51
They can go at it for a long time because they inexplicably own the United States. Uncle Sam is absolutely incapable of telling Israel to do anything, and instead just keeps sending them blank checks.
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flyte_of_foot Apr 9, 2026 +14
I don't know, if they keep making a fool out of Trump his vengeful side is going to come out. Trump seems to want this to be over desperately, and every time he makes progress towards that Israel is in the background undermining it within 24 hours.
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disisathrowaway Apr 9, 2026 +19
Methinks Israel has compromising material on Trump and is using that to keep him in line.
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TurboFucked Apr 9, 2026 +10
There's literally no material compromising enough to sway peoples' opinions on the guy. If anything, whatever material would paint him as even more evil would be celebrated by his base. They'll just turn it into a t-shirt.
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fratticus_maximus Apr 9, 2026 +8
"I'd rather vote for a pedophile than a Democrat!"
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niconpat Apr 9, 2026 +3
I think evidence of him engaging in a homosexual act would be too much for them.
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Cactusfan86 Apr 9, 2026 +9
Eh the cracks are showing in the us too, I’m not so sure that’s in stone either on a long term scale
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justthisoncepp Apr 9, 2026 +12
> Eh the cracks are showing in the us too Are there? Just because the people hate them doesn't mean the country will change it's stance. Israel has bipartisan support. Is there a potential candidate from either party that's at least hinted at being anti-Israel?
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silverpixie2435 Apr 9, 2026 +29
Israel is not becoming a pariah state if you look at literally anything happening with them. Defense agreements being signed. Gulf countries explicitly saying they are moving into Israel's orbit because of Iran.
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Kalsto6 Apr 9, 2026 +3
Also the interesting thing that no one really wants to talk about. Israel owns the best desalination technology in the world. Gulf states (the rich ones) will want to deal with Israel sooner or later. As soon as money and survival are at stake the biblical hate kind of goes away.
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jert3 Apr 9, 2026 +13
America is way out of control, it is such a dangerous situation. We (the world) doesn't even know who is making decisions for America. It is unlikely to be Trump, but if that was the case, that'd be f****** scary as well, like giving a senile grandpa keys to car, put above the law and strapping nukes to it. I hope this new American fascist regime is temporary and America returns to democracy, and restores the validity of its legal system. Almost the entire American system, each branch, has been compromised. Americans should familiarize themselves with the Constitution, and the rights y'all use to have. You should regain control of your government and destiny, so the world is no longer held hostage.
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MugiwarraD Apr 9, 2026 +40
condemning is like me saying ur shit. and then go back to business
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apexxin Apr 9, 2026 +19
What would you have him do? Attack Israel to protect Lebanon?
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historicusXIII Apr 9, 2026 +11
Economic sanctions, or at the very least a weapons embargo.
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notanothergav Apr 9, 2026 +3
The UK has already suspended 30 arms export licences to Israel.
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omfgeometry Apr 9, 2026 +83
We condemn shit on one arm then on the other we allow USA to take off from our country to bomb Iran
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Darkone539 Apr 9, 2026 +25
We have been separate from the usa during this whole thing. They are using our bases but that was because our gulf allies asked.
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BenTramer Apr 9, 2026 +8
The US is done, f*** ‘em.
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Xlbowlofpho Apr 9, 2026 +55
If the world can embargo South Africa for it apartheid policies. They can embargo Isreal for their muderous sprees
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Hopeless_Slayer Apr 9, 2026 +20
That's interesting, because guess which country chose to stand with Apartheid South during the embargo, trading weapons, Uranium and even tried to set them up with Nukes?
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Kataphractoi Apr 9, 2026 +15
I'm going to guess it's a country that doesn't have nukes but absolutely does have nukes.
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Best_Change4155 Apr 9, 2026 +25
>guess which country chose to stand with Apartheid South during the embargo, trading weapons, Uranium and even tried to set them up with Nukes? Taiwan.
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Shot-Toe-2884 Apr 9, 2026 +30
Hezbollah literally attacked Israel first, again. As Trump just learned, starting wars is easy, ending them is another matter. Hezbollah has nothing to do with the Iran war, sorry. Iran doesn’t own Lebanon. It’s fuckin weird that you thought otherwise.
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t-earlgrey-hot Apr 9, 2026 +22
Serious question because I get that if a country has a terror group in it that lobs rockets at you, you can't sit on your hands. Regardless of the question of whether this recent attacks by hezbollah are prompted by initiating the war on Iran... Is Israel's approach with Lebanon going to be effective to truly stop them? Looks like more of the same, level some buildings, push in and take some land, more death...my guess is it won't be solved. I don't have a solution but it feels like the only way to lasting peace in the region is to try to build bridges and alliances over time through diplomacy.
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AhmadOsebayad Apr 9, 2026 +4
Hezbolla attacked Israel before the first war in Iran, Israel has a cold peace with Lebanon but that’s not functionally different from war when the south is occupied by an Iranian paramilitary that shoots missiles at civilians every month. So far what created the most peace in the Middle East is aligning arab countries’ interests with the west like has been done with Egypt and Saudi Arabia, who stated to normalise relations with Israel, which caused Iran to order the invasion that started this conflict
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HormuzVengeance Apr 9, 2026 +5
You cannot have diplomacy with terrorists. 47 years of “diplomacy” in Iran culminated with islamic republic massacring 30,000 Iranians in the street within a week in January.
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Panthera_leo22 Apr 9, 2026 +19
So the US’s method of destroying all of Iran’s infrastructure has allowed for the regime that killed 30,000 Iranias to fall, right? Or did the U.S. just gave Iran the opportunity to hold the world’s economy hostage as they play the single largest card they hold which is blocking the Strait of Hormuz? At the moment, the non-diplomatic solution doesn’t seem to be providing any better results.
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Panthera_leo22 Apr 9, 2026 +21
Israel has straight up said they are building a “buffer zone” where they have declared will be the new border. They have also said they are destroying all villages in the South. There is a point where you can’t keep claiming self defense; you don’t get to annex land in the name of self-defense.
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xnmyl Apr 9, 2026 +4
> Hezbollah has nothing to do with the Iran war, sorry Convenient how that's the case when we're talking ceasefire, yet we still rightly blame Iran for funding and growing these terrorist groups End of the day though, it doesn't matter what we think. It matters what the involved states think, and Iran made ceasefire in Lebanon a required part of the ceasefire. Israel was aware of the fact and continued attacking anyway, which leads us to our current situation of no ceasefire anywhere
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Anonanomenon Apr 9, 2026 +8
I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but it’s not a mystery that if it were up to Bibi, this war would not be ending without regime change. I think he’s using Lebanon as a tool to try to break the cease-fire and prolong the war.
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Kataphractoi Apr 9, 2026 +8
He wants American boots in Iran, is what it boils down to. Because he sure as he'll isn't going to send any Israeli boots.
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HormuzVengeance Apr 9, 2026 +8
Britain condemns Israel but refused to be vocal on islamic republic for massacring Iranian civilians. To the point where Starmer actually lied about the contents of the terrorist act 2000 in order to not proscribe the IRGC as a terrorist organisation. It’s almost as if their outrage is purely selective and performative without actual concern for life or human rights violations.
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IceMysterious3056 Apr 9, 2026 +12
Israel doesn't seem to respect anyone even the U.S, their best friend.
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FYoCouchEddie Apr 9, 2026 +28
The US isn’t telling them to stop. Why the hell would Israel listen to the UK or France?
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bijelo123 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Doesn't matter, they need to impose sanctions on Israel
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Over-Willingness-933 Apr 9, 2026 -18
If the UK has constant missiles fired at them by an Islamic terrorist group, they would not say the same things
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Lupercus Apr 9, 2026 +71
We had a terrorist group bombing us regularly, including almost killing the prime minister. It wasn’t until we actually started talking and came up with a peace treaty that anything changed. It will be the same with Israel and its neighbours. Violence is just a spiral. It doesn’t solve anything.
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Over-Willingness-933 Apr 9, 2026 +36
I am British. I remember the Brighton bomb and in the early 1990s when they tried to kill Major. There is a big difference, they were not sending rockets into Newcastle and starting wildfires in Northumbria.
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chu Apr 9, 2026 +7
They were bombing pubs and department stores at Christmas.
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Lupercus Apr 9, 2026 +4
As do I. I’m not comparing scale or ideology, just pointing out that eventually you have to talk. Unless you plan on killing every single last person.
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FYoCouchEddie Apr 9, 2026 +46
Hezbollah doesn’t want talks or even claim to want talks. The Troubles ended because the IRA accepted British rule in Northern Ireland. Hezbollah very publicly doesn’t accept Israel’s existence anywhere. It’s more like if the IRA was demanding that the English all move back to Northern Germany and were firing rockets at London to make it happen.
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CyndaquilTurd Apr 9, 2026 +19
Thank you. Drives me wild to read these comments making ignorant analogies between the UK and jihadists.
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Unable_Flamingo_9774 Apr 9, 2026 -9
Yeah people not seeing the parallels between Israels treatment of Palestine and it's neighbours and the troubles from Ireland's perspective aren't looking very hard. 
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811545b2-4ff7-4041 Apr 9, 2026 +30
Plenty of parallels, plenty of differences. I'm not entirely sure how the UK government would have reacted, say, if the 1996 Manchester bomb had killed thousands of people, or if the IRA were aiming to take over the mainland UK. Or if the IRA was receiving a constant supply of weapons from abroad.
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No_Branch_5083 Apr 9, 2026 +31
>Or if the IRA was receiving a constant supply of weapons from abroad. It was, from the USA.
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811545b2-4ff7-4041 Apr 9, 2026 +11
Yeh, money. And it did get some arms from the Middle East. But not surface-to-surface missiles. (Although Libya did supply them with some surface to air missiles at one point). Yes, they had mortars but nothing with much range. They were a tad more discriminatory in their targeting. They at least were mostly attacking British government infrastructure, then later looking to make economic (but not human) damage to the UK. Like I said, some parallels, but some vast differences. edit: Probably the biggest is that the IRA would never have been considered an "existential threat' to the UK at any point.
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No_Branch_5083 Apr 9, 2026 +7
They killed 500 or so civilians as well but I take your point. The ironic thing is that if the IRA had actually been a true threat to the UK, they would have quite probably been destroyed. Because they remained fairly minor and didn't push too hard, there wasn't enough justification or public pressure for the British to prosecute them more vigorously.
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BallsInSufficientSad Apr 9, 2026 +15
1200 Israeli died on Oct 7th, including entire families butchered in their homes. If the Irish had done something like that, all of Ireland would be in ashes.
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fitzgoldy Apr 9, 2026 +5
There are parallels but not a lot mind. A key thing is that hamas want to destroy israel and kill Jews and Israelis, they don't want to coexist.
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fitzgoldy Apr 9, 2026 +20
Forgetting that the UK had its own terror problem, the IRA? 
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DogBarf00 Apr 9, 2026 +7
The IRA went out of its way to target English civilians?
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Over-Willingness-933 Apr 9, 2026 +8
The IRA wanted the British out of Northern Ireland, they were not trying to exterminate the British people.
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PuddingtonBear Apr 9, 2026 +19
And you see absolutely no parallel with the Palestinians here Like none at all
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silverpixie2435 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Because there isn't one.
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Gender_is_a_Fluid Apr 9, 2026 +12
Crazy how you just gloss over the troubles.
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KLei2020 Apr 9, 2026 +2
Exactly, but it's easy for them to sit on their ass, do nothing, and criticise everything Israel does
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par-a-dox-i-cal Apr 9, 2026 -21
Well, they can go and F themselves. Israel will not tolerate rocket threats from Lebanon anymore.
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Counterpoint-4 Apr 9, 2026 +39
Palestinians will not tolerate being run out of their West Bank homes... oh wait.
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ImAjustin Apr 9, 2026 -22
Israel dgaf anymore. Post 10/7 they have been on the offensive in every regard and I don’t blame them for that mentality. It’s better to be hated and alive than loved and dead.
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FinnerzTheFirst Apr 9, 2026 +21
Those aren’t the only two options
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811545b2-4ff7-4041 Apr 9, 2026 +21
\> It’s better to be hated and alive than loved and dead. This is 'Never again' in a nutshell unfortunately. It'd be nice if they found some kind of middle ground that didn't involve leveling areas of civilian homes and infrastructure. It'd also be cool if the surrounding nations didn't have military equipment and infrastructure integrated into civilian areas also.
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MegaLemonCola Apr 9, 2026 +40
The middle ground is what they have with Egypt, Jordan, the UAE and others: You don’t bomb us and in return we don’t bomb you.
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Sh00man Apr 9, 2026 +15
They are doing the middle ground, otherwise they would carpet bomb their way up to the Litani river. Instead they use house to house and early warnings before bombing
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Specialist_Dark_3668 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Why the f*** isn't leftist ire directed towards terrorists who make it THEIR POLICY TO EXCLUSIVELY OPERATE FROM CIVILIAN AREAS? They don't do this because civilian areas are hardened bunkers. They do this purely because islamist pussies like starmer will reward them when they do. They intentionally take war to civilian areas to win sympathy and support from leftists.
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psycho_terror Apr 9, 2026
You realise that when you frame decisions with only the polar opposites, you've become an extremist?
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ImAjustin Apr 9, 2026 +6
Israel is currently led by extremists. But I understand how they got there. They’re surrounded by them.
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