"Strangled" sounds terminal, but Margaux Mirkin, the 70-year-old heiress, is not dead.
> After the incident, Kristen Stavola, executive director of We Are Laurel Canyon, spoke to NBC4.
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>"She's pretty shaken up, as anyone would be after being assaulted in your home and watching your valuables get stolen and driven away," Stavola said.
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Time_Explanation121220 hr ago
+160
There is the phrase strangled to death.
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skinnies20 hr ago
+94
Luckily she was just strangled to life
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18voltbattery20 hr ago
+43
Strangled to annoyance
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Septopuss718 hr ago
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I hope it didn't awaken anything in her...
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PressureMuch534017 hr ago
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I heard "strangled to o*****" recently
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noots-to-you14 hr ago
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I read, “I was strangled to o***** recently”. I was about to congratulate you until re-reading.
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PressureMuch534014 hr ago
That's close enough.
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TThor19 hr ago
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This reminds me how the punishment of hanging had to be rewritten to "hung until death", after a man sentenced to hanging survived it and they had to let him go free.
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Cottagecheesecurls15 hr ago
+7
That mans name? Frank Reynolds.
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Fallouttgrrl14 hr ago
+3
He knows the loopholes!
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Lads-0919 hr ago
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Except that the word strangle means "to choke to death by compressing the throat with something (such as a hand or rope)" similar to electrocution which also specifically has death in the definition
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BygmesterFinnegan18 hr ago
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If you look there is actually more than one official definition
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Lads-0918 hr ago
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Very few dictionaries have strangle defined without killing (I checked 9 before I found 1) and even then it's a secondary definition. That suggests that it's a colloquial definition added due to common usage. Someday "to lie" might be listed under cap in dictionaries as well. Words collect new meanings over time because they are used incorrectly by people for so long that it becomes correct. Again, similar to electrocution which, I won't check, but I'm certain has a colloquial definition "to shock" in a dictionary somewhere.
Tldr: we're both kinda right
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Astrium614 hr ago
+2
Drowning is similar. Technically, you drown any time you take water into your lungs whether fatal or not.
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chigoku17 hr ago
+3
If you don’t die, is it not just assault then?
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StrategicCarry13 hr ago
+4
Assault, battery, attempted murder, and if you use something as a ligature then you can add "with a deadly weapon" in most jurisdictions.
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hamsandsteam13 hr ago
+1
Assault/ assault with a deadly weapon doesn’t actually mean you touched the other person though, they’re probably looking to potentially lay an attempted murder charge if they catch em.
So many legal terms sound silly, “on his person” is always one that makes me lol.
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StrategicCarry13 hr ago
+1
You would charge with all three to raise the chance of getting a conviction. Some combination of attempted murder, battery/aggravated assault (with a deadly weapon) and regular assault (with a deadly weapon).
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hamsandsteam13 hr ago
+2
“Assault by force likely to cause great bodily injury”.
[I’ve dealt with this division before](https://imgur.com/a/vQcRCU1) and the DA assigned to the case charged the defendant way differently to what the cops initially told me.
*Offense: cnt 1 f PC 664/211” = Count 1 felony attempted robbery* yet a weapon was involved and way more went down lol. Gets confusing!
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justbrowsinginpeace10 hr ago
+1
there is also partly strangled
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L_Cranston_Shadow15 hr ago
+6
It doesn't help that it is being handled by the homicide division, which for the LAPD is the squad that handles all high profile crimes. Most other police departments have changed the name to major crimes or something similar.
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Quenz13 hr ago
+3
Strangulation is death by constriction of the neck. Doing the same act without killing someone is "throttling." Like the difference between getting shocked and being electrocuted is the death.
Edit: which /u/Lads-09 in the thread right below me said. Go upvote them.
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No-Arm-550322 hr ago
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Not a heiress but me too exactly one week ago :( just want my dog returned safely
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barbariantrey22 hr ago
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I’m so sorry
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IAmTheGoomba18 hr ago
+57
Who the actual f*** breaks into someone's home and steals a pet?! What in the actual f***.
I am sorry that happened to you and I hope you get your doggo back safe and sound!
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L3onskii18 hr ago
+31
Not justifying it but some dogs are worth a lot of money. I've heard French/English bulldogs whose bloodline can be verified are worth thousands of dollars
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ClandestineOtter13 hr ago
+6
Can confirm. My English Bulldog was $3,500 w/ papers… and that was in 2008
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MommyLovesPot8toes11 hr ago
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We had an English who had a champion bloodline. The breeder told us not to post anything on social media for the first month or so, and to be exceptionally vigilant about who has access to our dog while he was a little, adorable puppy. There were (15 years ago) crime rings that targeted bulldog pups.
The really good breeders (like the one we used) are very strict about who they'll let their dogs go home with. The people buying these stolen pups were usually people who couldn't qualify for one thru regular means.
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Temnothorax9 hr ago
+1
Wouldn’t that make it kinda trackable?
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Donnicton8 hr ago
+1
People are goddamn animals moreso than the dogs sometimes. Used to live in a two family house decades ago where the family downstairs from us owned a gorgeous purebred Chow-Chow, some fuckers stole it right out of their yard one day. Unfortunately in a way, the Chow-Chow was extremely socialized so it wouldn't have gone after the intruders like a typical Chow-Chow might, so they were able to steal it without much issue. This was unfortunately before microchipping really became a thing, so there was basically no chance to ever find it again.
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Pledgeofmalfeasance22 hr ago
+61
That's so horrendous. I can't begin to imagine, but I'm so very sorry holy shit. You poor things!
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MrBobSaget22 hr ago
+48
That’s awful. I’m so sorry that happened to you. But glad you were able to walk away from it!! And I have my fingers all the way crossed that you get your pup returned back to you asap
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butttabooo15 hr ago
+9
Oh my god. That’s horrible. Anyone who steals a dog is so mean.
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Inedible_Goober14 hr ago
+4
I'm so sorry. I'm hoping for the safe return of your dog and for your healing. Don't be afraid to seek help to help you regain your sense of security and control.
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ResolveRoutine931122 hr ago
+201
I hate these stories because it’s only news because they have money
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ThatPancreatitisGuy16 hr ago
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I covered the cop and court beats for newspapers and routinely had to write about elderly people being assaulted and abused. Hope that makes you feel better.
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cantproveidid15 hr ago
+34
It only happened because she had money.
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L_Cranston_Shadow15 hr ago
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They also tend to be target because they have money.
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RoarOfTheWorlds22 hr ago
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Some of you guys have let social media give you permission to be unabashed miserable dicks
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Historical-Edge-933222 hr ago
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Seems like he was talking about the fact that it made national news. Not every home invasion makes national news. Although, imo, the national reporting in the case of this home invasion probably comes more from the fact that she’s the heiress to Budget Rent a Car, and less from her money.
“Rich lady gets strangled in home invasion” doesn’t sound as good as “Budget Rent a Car Heiress strangled in home invasion.”
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idiot50000022 hr ago
+4
Year your not hearing about Abbot Zalensky floor wax and sealer heiress strangled! Are you?
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dragondice352122 hr ago
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Quick search says 1.6 million home invasions happen each year. Unless you live in a backwater town, they definately aren't all reported on by the news. The other poster is right.
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dragondice352122 hr ago
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The original person was talking about reporting in the news. I asssume you can read.
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bimbo_baggins_20 hr ago
+7
You assumed wrong.
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Osiris3221 hr ago
+15
And how many of then end up as headline news?
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blah19120 hr ago
+7
As proof that this is not the case, there is literally a commenter above saying the same thing happened to them and they lost their dog. I didn’t hear about that one and you’re wrong, it is true that these cases only make the news because the people have money. Sure, they sprinkle in some poors when bad things happen to them, but the news largely reports on the wealthy.
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squeezemachine20 hr ago
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If I said Peter Nobody was attacked in a home invasion would you care? Would you buy a newspaper with articles describing all 2M home invasions as they happen. Not interesting. You know what’s interesting? Commenting how you think rich people get more attention. See, you got more entertainment and gave more engagement because the victim was rich.
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Pledgeofmalfeasance22 hr ago
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Are you even trying
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mofa9027722 hr ago
+43
You can tell because they have M S 1 3 tattooed on their knuckles in Times New Roman font.
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LaForestLabs22 hr ago
+42
Nice dog whistle
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spinnyround22 hr ago
+18
It’s like racist/nationalist shitymorph anymore with comments
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Osiris3220 hr ago
+3
But /u/shittymorph is wholesome!
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Th3FinalStarman21 hr ago
+78
More than anything else: crime is correlated to poverty. Decrease poverty, decrease crime.
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GenChadT18 hr ago
+28
Poverty is on the rise. As more people start to go hungry and stare homelessness in the face it'll continue to drive poverty and desperation and as a result property crime and violent crime are going to sharply increase. If you think you've seen a crackhead do some crazy shit for Crack wait until you see what a hungry person will do to feed themselves or their kids. I honestly don't believe most Americans are ready for it. Those who lived through the 70s-90s will have some understanding but IMO the next "crime wave" is going to be worse for a multitude of reasons which are unlikely to be addressed by the conservatives in power. Not only that, criminals here are better armed now than they ever were back then.. Instead of knives and 38s it's going to be ARs and glocks with switches.
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Smodphan16 hr ago
+13
Poverty is also relative. Our poverty seems less extreme, but people arent stupid. They see inequality everywhere they turn, and they start looking to seek advantage.
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Expandexplorelive7 hr ago
+1
>Poverty is on the rise.
[No it isn't](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States).
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whiteguyballin21 hr ago
+6
The poor, poor heiress
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Silly-Supermarket-6317 hr ago
+10
Why go out of your way to mock a 70 year old woman who was just physically assaulted and, as far as we can tell, did nothing morally wrong? Genuinely.
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StinzorgaKingOfBees20 hr ago
+2
We must ask, why are they resorting to home invasion? What caused this?
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EmployeeNo424122 hr ago
+63
Been a rash of home robberies in LA county recently. Hopefully they’ll want to put violent or repeat criminals in prison again.
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turb0_encapsulator20 hr ago
+16
in some of these cases the suspects have been an organized crime syndicate from Chile.
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[deleted]22 hr ago
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boston_homo22 hr ago
+17
He “can’t” pardon state crimes, technically, but I’m sure he could convince any R governor to do it for him.
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Nugur21 hr ago
+17
CA does not have a R governor
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stillavoidingthejvm21 hr ago
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They might next year, with the way the governor's race is going right now.
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EmployeeNo424122 hr ago
+10
He pardons his corrupt or nazi cronies but not these street thugs.
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tunamctuna21 hr ago
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Hey guys, Tuna here. I’m running in 2028.
Do you know whey drives crime?
Inequality and the feeling of despair associated with the constant enshitification of our lives for more record profits.
And what happens to those profits?
Apple has spent 764 billion buying back its own stock in the last decade, which is direct wealth increase for those who own the most, the executive suite.
We can fix this, I just need a little help from my friends!
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FriendlyDespot20 hr ago
+5
The more they concentrate the problem, the easier it becomes to solve it.
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guntycankles20 hr ago
+3
Just whey? Or curds AND whey?
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tracyinge20 hr ago
+1
[maydaystrong.org](http://maydaystrong.org)
SPREAD THE WORD!
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LoosenGoosen18 hr ago
+10
Why no description of the attackers?
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Silly-Supermarket-6317 hr ago
+6
Whole lot of “Money Ambivalence” going on in this thread
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xXbean_machineXx16 hr ago
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Yeah cuz idc about anything that happens to the rich and their… ilk
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Silly-Supermarket-6315 hr ago
+10
And yet, I guarantee you would not turn down money if you won the l******. Perfect example of the concept, ironically enough lol.
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xXbean_machineXx14 hr ago
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Yah no shit bro im not rich
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Silly-Supermarket-6312 hr ago
+3
You would be if you won the l****** though, and by your logic, you would then not care about yourself or your “ilk”either. That is exactly what the concept of money ambivalence means lol
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Sonifri21 hr ago
+12
How rich is she again?
There are 8760 hours in a year. A rotating security guard position that costs $20/hr, split among three or four shifts per day would cost less than $200k/yr.
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-You-know-it-20 hr ago
+15
Avis Budget company is worth almost $11 billion net.
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Master_Editor_957521 hr ago
+26
I just can’t bring myself to f****** care bout wealthy people anymore.
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Silly-Supermarket-6317 hr ago
+2
Then why take the time to comment and give it your energy?
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TurbulentIssue617 hr ago
+5
to let other people know they arent alone in feeling that way?
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ThatPancreatitisGuy16 hr ago
+3
Pretty sure sociopaths don’t care if there are other sociopaths out there.
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TurbulentIssue615 hr ago
Being apathetic to billionaires doesn't make you a sociopath
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Silly-Supermarket-6315 hr ago
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It does if you can look at a 70 year old with no apparent moral failing getting physically assaulted and feel no empathy as another human being.
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TurbulentIssue615 hr ago
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And how many people have died of exposure or of starvation because rich people hoard resources they don't need endlessly, being wealthy is itself a moral failing.
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Silly-Supermarket-6315 hr ago
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Do you have any sources to back up your claim?
For this woman or her company specifically I mean.
Edit: question—if someone wins the l****** and decides to keep it rather than immediately give it all away, does that mean they are morally failing too? Where is the line? Genuinely trying to understand the logic here.
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Dry_Age575012 hr ago
+3
Forget it; nothing but a bunch of jealous NEETs who are exactly where they deserve to be in life.
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xX-JustSomeGuy-Xx15 hr ago
+2
The planet Earth
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DongIslandIceTea13 hr ago
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> billionaire
> no apparent moral failing
Guys, how do we break this to him? Some people just apparently have zero clue on how the world works.
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Silly-Supermarket-6312 hr ago
+1
Interesting that you assume I am a man.
But please, enlighten us about how the world works (since you seem to know all the answers)
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Silly-Supermarket-6317 hr ago
+3
Feeling like they don’t care about other people? Weird flex but okay.
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xX-JustSomeGuy-Xx16 hr ago
-2
Not about “other people,” but “wealthy people.”
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Silly-Supermarket-6315 hr ago
+11
They are not some separate species, they are still people and having your jaw broken after being physically assaulted in your own home as a 70 year old is awful no matter who it happens to. Maybe try having some empathy for another human regardless of financial status.
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RepFilms21 hr ago
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Until they start covering violent crimes against poor Black people, I'm not going to care about this
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Silly-Supermarket-6316 hr ago
+15
Idk about your city, but in mine that’s pretty much all that’s ever on the news
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StandUpForYourWights23 hr ago
+30
That would be a merkin
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Difficult_Garage_43122 hr ago
+21
That's your comment on a woman being assaulted?
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crazychild9422 hr ago
-6
The title set us up to not give a shit . An heir to money?
Yah, she can f*** right off
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Difficult_Garage_43120 hr ago
+7
You honestly think an elderly widow should have her jaw smashed in and choked because her father made money? I guess you're glad her husband died in a fire, too. F****** yikes.
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Silly-Supermarket-6317 hr ago
+3
Thank god *someone* has a shred of humanity in this thread. My faith in humanity is not completely lost.
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Difficult_Garage_43112 hr ago
+3
It is rough out here, I feel you.
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Kroniid0921 hr ago
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The social contract is meant to be a give and take, this is one of those things that happens much more frequently when it becomes only "take"
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drawmer21 hr ago
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Man, it’s bad to be a rich person these days. Oh well! Shouldn’t have fucked people over to get where you are.
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taocowboy5416 hr ago
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"choked" not "strangled"
carry on
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omi821016 hr ago
They were up set because they bought in at the high and now the stock is tanking
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BusyHands_22 hr ago
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That's what you get with Budget Security... Maybe she should spend more for better
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Terminated_Entropy16 hr ago
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Oh no, a rich hag, assaulted and strangled? Heavens! /s Im sure if she was disappeared she would be plastered all over the news like Nicole Guthrie.
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