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xavPa-64 6 days ago +1524

He definitely had a reputation before his death. I think he was even banned from the fan convention circuit after one too many complaints from female attendees

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +938

Yes- he was banned from the circuit con due to sexual harassment complaints. He was also convicted of choking his ex girlfriend and was charged with beating two other women. An all round awful man. This is mainly why he was banned from the 2017 Buffy reunion photo shoot. Then he complained about not being involved and how the cast ignored him- there was no self awareness.

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res30stupid 6 days ago +291

You know, I was always wandering why his character seemed to have suddenly left Criminal Minds when he was being set up as Garcia's love interest. Maybe he did something that got him kicked off the show...?

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MacaroniPoodle 6 days ago +118

He was a severe alcoholic, and I'd read that was a big reason he was let go from CM. Not sure if these other behaviors also played a part.

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Mst3Kgf 6 days ago +144

He WAS Garcia's love interest on the show for several seasons and then he was just gone. It was very telling. And he picked the wrong show to act up on since "Criminal Minds" later fired one of the original mainstays of the series after he misbehaved on set. They didn't f*** around on that show.

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MouthJob 6 days ago +24

Who was the other one?

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Mst3Kgf 6 days ago +98

Thomas Gibson (Hotch) who'd been one of the leads since the beginning. Got fired a couple episodes into S12 for being abusive on-set.

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IvyGold 6 days ago +63

He was the core cast member, and had worked with Kubrick. Whatever he did must've been awful. I really liked him on Dharma & Greg, too.

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Rac3318 6 days ago +66

He kicked one of the writer producers during an argument. Got him fired near instantly since it was one of the latest string of incidents. He had been sent to anger management already for prior stuff.

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badkarmabum 5 days ago +6

He was violent but the guy he assaulted had been harassing women on set.

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IvyGold 5 days ago +7

Huh. Did the other guy face repercussions?

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bbmarvelluv 5 days ago +20

I worked on a few episodes of SWAT and some of people on set worked Criminal Minds. This [comment](https://www.listnook.com/r/criminalminds/s/rRaVazpbNy) pretty much described why he was fired. Also the writer did have a history of being verbally abusive towards female staff for another production.

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Rac3318 5 days ago +3

That’s not why he kicked him. Even Gibson said it had to do with a disagreement over the script. He was directing the episode, went to the writer and said this didn’t work. It escalated into an argument which then escalated into Gibson hitting him. By this point it was the final straw as Gibson had already had multiple incidents similar to this and the network fired him.

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MouthJob 6 days ago +26

Ah. Remember him leaving, but guess I never looked into it, especially since he seemed to get an actual send-off. Just as well, I don't think the show suffered at all without him. Not like when Patinkon walked away.

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Mst3Kgf 6 days ago +39

You'll note his departure was all offscreen, starting with him being "on leave" while Paget Brewster returned to the show to take over as leader.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +198

There was a post about this on the criminal minds sub and it said that he was fired due to unprofessional conduct. So that’s unsurprising. After that- he was pretty much uninsurable.

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WhoCanTell 6 days ago +45

The last time I saw him at a con was DragonCon in, I think, 2018. He wasn't a guest, instead he had a booth on the vendor floor with Emma Caulfield. I thought it was odd that he wasn't at the regular celebrity area. Now it makes sense.

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Astrium6 6 days ago +17

Did Emma Caulfield also do something to get the boot from cast events?

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jessie_monster 6 days ago +20

Not that I've ever heard. Maybe she was just doing it out of an old loyalty?

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IvyGold 6 days ago +15

I thought I saw an interview with her, SMG, and Allyson together just recently.

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ThomasVivaldi 6 days ago +22

I thought he was banned from the circuit cause he was trying to get people there to invest in some grift he was doing.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +48

No it was due to multiple harassment complaints. He even complained about this in one of his unhinged Facebook rants. He stopped making money from cons and started grifting. I think he was even convicted of fraud. He was trying to scam fans up until his death.

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Detamz 6 days ago +10

> 2017 Buffy reunion photo shoot Literally looking at pics from the photoshoot right now and he is in them? https://ew.com/tv/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-exclusive-portraits/ and in BTS shots as well: https://ew.com/tv/buffy-reunion-instagram-twitter-photos/

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +67

He was photoshopped in. He wasn’t actually present. If you look at the actual bts video of the shoot on YouTube- he’s not there. This was a big deal at the time because he went on a public rant about how his costars didn’t fight for him to be in the shoot. He went hard on David Boreanaz especially claiming he was turning everyone against him. He claimed David said he wouldn’t go to the shoot unless he was banned. Then it came out that he was echoing the cast’s feelings because a lot of them felt the same way. During the interview part where he was sectioned off from the rest of the cast- Nicholas claimed the entire cast ignored him apart from Emma (Anya).

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Detamz 6 days ago +3

Fair enough. I had zero idea about any of the drama. But then judging from the BTS photos, he still seems to get along with some cast members?

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +20

He claimed during the interview for that reunion that nobody actually talked to him apart from Emma (Anya) and Alyson Hannigan briefly. That’s also when he emphasized that Sarah ignored him.

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Detamz 6 days ago +1

Always sad to know that characters you love on screen aren't on good terms in real life. I guess it speaks to their ability as actors and professionals.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +41

Sometimes I find it sad but not in this case. It makes perfect sense why none of them wanted to interact with him. By that point- he already had some domestic abuse charges. He was unhinged and violent. Also just generally unpleasant to be around. This is why people believe that David was echoing how other cast members felt- particularly the women who might have been scared to vocalize it themselves. He’d already tried to fight David in the past- he was just a violent person.

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Danuscript 6 days ago +41

I don't know anything about the second link, which looks more candid/casual, but the story with the EW photo shoot was that David Boreanaz refused to be in the same room with Nicholas Brendon and because Boreanaz is the bigger star they took the photos of Nicholas Brendon separately. His appearance in the large group photo is him photoshopped into the picture. Fans speculate that David Boreanaz might have stepped in and made the request knowing that other cast members were uncomfortable with Brendon but didn't want to say anything themselves. There's no proof of that though.

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Detamz 6 days ago +5

Thanks for the info. I genuinely don't follow a lot of this gossip, so this is the first I'm hearing there was even any drama. I just vividly recall seeing the EW photoshoot years ago and I know he was there, so I was confused.

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magus-21 6 days ago +5

I seem to remember that Boreanaz had his own reputation, albeit more on the "party boy" side rather than the "sexual predator" side.

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jessie_monster 6 days ago +15

But also the sexual predator side. He was sued by a PA on Bones for sexual harassment.

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magus-21 5 days ago +1

Welp, I can't say I'm surprised. I guess it makes sense for the sexual predator thing to go along with the party boy thing. I just remembered something about him, Christian Kane, and Glenn Quinn (RIP) having wild nights during that first season of Angel. I'm really hoping Nathan Fillion doesn't turn out to be an a******/predator/etc., too.

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Silver-End9570 5 days ago +6

David's problem is his constant affairs. Guy got caught and nearly lost his marriage, and then he keeps doing it. Dude even has n*** photos and videos rolling around the net too.

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ogmarker 6 days ago +10

For the filmed interview portion, he shot separately from the main group - his takes were just him, Emma Caulfield, and another actor. These two, iirc, still sat in on the main group one, with SMG, David Boreanez, AH, etc. From what I’ve read online, he didn’t film with the main group at David Boreanez’s request. The big group photo he’s definitely shopped into.

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Detamz 6 days ago +6

I had no idea about any of this; I just vividly recall seeing the big group photo and I know I saw him there, so all this drama is news to me

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IvyGold 6 days ago +13

This just made me snort beer: https://ew.com/thmb/W-A43TlDHTsoF2Xhwfey-Z_IQhw=/2000x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/000252708_23823487342-2000-1e1f49feb51b43488dcdaca89c807589.jpg

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BenderBenRodriguez 5 days ago +2

Apparently David Boreanaz specifically refused to appear if Brendon was there at the same time. At least according to Nicholas Brendon himself, but there's an oral history book about the show which goes into this and more or less verifies it.

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xhable 6 days ago +80

Yep, he hassled a friend of mine and wouldn't take no as an answer at one I was volunteering at, was definitely somebody to watch out for. He was also a menace to one of the acts John Robertson while he was doing his set, drunkenly heckling and somewhat spoiling the show.

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GoodOmens 6 days ago +162

>“When I heard the news that he died, I cried out of pure relief,” Doe 1 — who is among the almost **9,000 members of a Nicholas Brendon Awareness Facebook group**, where alleged victims share their stories and exchange resources — told us. Ha, yea if the abuse will get a gen Z to join facebook and post then it must be bad.

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Toby_O_Notoby 6 days ago +44

You know how addicts talk about a "moment of clarity"? It's when you're faced with a fact that says "I'm fucked up and I need help" which sends you to seek treatment for your addictions. I would think a group of 9,000 people formed just to be aware of you being a drunken creep would probably be a bullseye on that.

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jessie_monster 6 days ago +13

Well, he was probably a predator sober too.

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pepcorn 6 days ago +20

That's what I'm thinking too. Only the very worst circumstances could land a teen or twenty something in a Facebook group. Poor thing :(

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HolyDoucheBags 2 days ago +1

Gen Z? Am I missing something? They said Doe 1 is 30 now so isn’t she a millennial? 30 is a pretty common age for Facebook.

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poop_snausages 6 days ago +24

Did he ever say anything about Joss Whedon after he went on a ramble while preparing for back surgery? He's one of the few along with Alyson Hannigan that I recall who didn't call out Joss Whedon after Charisma Carpenter opened up about it all. Considering Xander was essentially Whedon's self-insert, I've always wondered if Brendon got preferential treatment compared to the rest of the cast. He seems to be like Whedon in some ways.

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360Saturn 6 days ago +17

Hannigan was Whedon's favorite on set and got a pay bump in the later seasons

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Kalse1229 6 days ago +17

Think she and Alexis Denisof are his kids' godparents.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +39

He went on a rant on Facebook live where he celebrated the sequel being cancelled and called SMG a traitor for hijacking Joss’ work. He was pretty disparaging of her and very defensive of Joss. He claimed they were still in contact. He’s always defended him from the allegations his costars made and he’s been vocal about thinking SMG dogpiled on him.

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360Saturn 6 days ago +16

Crazy to think that he must have died just a few days later. What a shame.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +28

Yeah that’s what shocked me. The last time I heard about him was because of that rant. Then a week later- I saw that he’d died. He spent most of his life being hateful and abusive. It was very graceful of Sarah to pay a brief tribute to him even though he’d spent so many years insulting her.

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poop_snausages 6 days ago +18

Not surprised whatsoever. What a massive choad.

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BenderBenRodriguez 5 days ago +3

IIRC Whedon introduced Hannigan to her husband (Alexis Denisof who played Wesley, mostly on Angel) and is the godfather of their child, so they're still close with him. There's a few other Buffy/Angel actors who are still friends with him, from what I know J. August Richards and Amy Acker, though I don't think it's a lot of them anymore. Which, yeah, I think maybe speaks to those actors getting preferential treatment while they were working with him. I really respect the ones who didn't have a bad experience but took that new information and actually denounced him; I know Danny Strong was especially vocal about it.

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TheCrushSoda 6 days ago +7

Probably wanted to be like Whedon and emulate him to a degree. He never seemed like he was in their little group tho, probably just wanted to be. Whedon also has a history of reusing his actors so maybe he didn’t want to speak out in case that ever happened again

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Kalse1229 6 days ago +11

> He's one of the few along with Alyson Hannigan that I recall who didn't call out Joss Whedon after Charisma Carpenter opened up about it all. Can't speak to him, but I don't blame Alyson Hannigan for not speaking up about it. She and her husband were close to Joss. Think they're godparents to his kids. It probably sucks to learn someone you love does shit like that, so I don't blame them for not getting involved in the court of public opinion.

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DramaBrat 4 days ago +1

It’s possible she held back because of her relationship with his kids. I have no evidence to back this up, but it makes sense.

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Kalse1229 4 days ago +1

Yeah. This kind of thing is complicated.

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name-classified 6 days ago +355

The f*** is wrong with these people?!

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futureformerteacher 6 days ago +415

Wait until this guy finds out what America does with serial child rapists who are also convicted felons.

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CaptKangarooPHD 6 days ago +226

We give them the nuclear codes?

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PunkandCannonballer 6 days ago +76

And defend them with every breath.

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centran 6 days ago +14

It's really the safest people to leave them with. Why would they dare to use the codes when there are still kids around. We just have to watch out for childless nations.

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Love-That-Danhausen 6 days ago +7

No wonder he’s so mad about the Vatican. Japan and Korea need to fix their birth rates quickly.

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GoodOmens 6 days ago +19

Well he's dead. So he's got that going for him

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dwpea66 6 days ago +15

At least we're not putting these guys in office right

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holdmypurse 6 days ago +7

Of course not. Who would vote for such degenerates?

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the__ghola__hayt 6 days ago +1

We only elect the most Godly and holy of men to lead this great nation. It's like the Bible says in, I think, Psalms: "And shepherds we shall be/ For Thee, my Lord, for Thee..."

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tele_ave 6 days ago

Yup not at all. The halls of elected office in America are clean of sexual predators.

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Retro1989 6 days ago +9

Can't be anything bonkers like making them president.

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name-classified 6 days ago +5

Elect them President

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dkarlovi 6 days ago +22

You have a life most people dream of, money, fame, can't you just do weird shit with consenting adults, that's all you have to do, it's one thing FFS.

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mira_poix 4 days ago +1

It's because it's about power & control

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youtocin 6 days ago +27

Sad thing is it's nothing new. A huge part of the film industry defends Roman Polanski who drugged and raped a young teenager when he was in his 40s. He fled the country and continues to make movies.

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Batbuckleyourpants 6 days ago +5

Narcissism. [Celebrities have more narcissistic personality traits than the general population, and people with narcissistic tendencies seem to be attracted to the entertainment industry rather than the industry creating narcissists, according to a groundbreaking study conducted by researchers Drew Pinsky of the Keck School of Medicine of USC and S. Mark Young of the USC Marshall School of Business and the USC Annenberg School for Communication.](https://today.usc.edu/usc-study-celebrities-really-are-more-narcissistic-than-the-general-public/#:~:text=Individuals%20with%20Narcissistic%20Tendencies%20Appear,celebrity%20personality%20is%20really%20like.%E2%80%9D)

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Pacmantis 6 days ago +23

something funny about the celebrity study being conducted by celebrity doctor Drew Pinsky. I wonder what he scores on that narcissism test.

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Cigaran 6 days ago +7

It’s over 9000!!!

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MissNancy1113 6 days ago +2

I feel like I read a study about female vs. male narcissism in entertainment.

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bigbeefer92 6 days ago +19

I'd take this whole study with a truckload of salt. Dr. Drew is a conservative grifter with no training in mental health and the other guy has an accounting masters, neither seem to have the credentials for this type of study.

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TheElusiveFox 5 days ago +2

I know, if he weren't dead people would be electing him for president...

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SustainedSuspense 4 days ago +1

Power and influence corrupts most people. You think celebrities are different than any other human?

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scalablecory 6 days ago +184

So much of my formative TV years have been tainted by this stuff. Really sucks that all these creeps were around in those years. I feel like I’m going to learn some dark secret around Hey Arnold! at some point.

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MumblingGhost 6 days ago +37

Don't you dare speak that into existence bro. Hey Arnold is a masterpiece of children's television. Essential viewing for any kid who grew up in an urban environment!

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Nassuman 6 days ago +14

Hey Arnold! was sort of a sister series to the Simpsons, since a lot of the writing staff co-mingled with each other. And the people who worked on it went on to make their own shows just as iconic, like Dan Povenmire.

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CompetitiveProject4 6 days ago +2

Wasn't Hey Arnold's creator married to Matt Groening's sister at the time?

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BenderBenRodriguez 5 days ago +2

Yes, Lisa Groening. They're not married anymore, but the connection at the time was strong enough that IIRC Hey Arnold first appeared in the Simpsons Magazine as a series of comics.

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hislastname 6 days ago +8

Stoop Kid’s afraid to leave his stoop!

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ronbiomed 6 days ago +35

A tale as old as time in Hollywood. Was happening way before and will happen well into the future. Cosby, Weinstein, Whedon, et al. It will never stop.

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baskaat 6 days ago +23

It was literally called “the casting couch“ back in the golden era of Hollywood.

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SonovaVondruke 6 days ago +33

The casting couch is still a thing, it's just quieter and less explicit. I spent a few years in LA adjacent to the film industry and had a lot of friends in it. The only actress I knew who worked consistently bragged openly about how the first dozen roles she booked were mostly or entirely because of who she was f****** or willing to f***, and that she saw it as an investment in her career and that she "was always the one in control." Yet that obviously creates the expectation that other women who do not feel the same way will have to do the same to compete.

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bristow84 6 days ago +28

Whedon was an all-around a****** but was he a sexual predator like the other two mentioned?

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Saratje 6 days ago +14

From what we know not sexual harassment/assault but he was inappropriately cruel to the young cast, in example he kept calling Carpenter fat until she developed an eating disorder which she blames on him. If I'm wrong anyone do please correct me. From what I remember from one of the interviews when Carpenter came out about what happened, the actors later corrected that him not being allowed to be alone with a teenage Trachtenburg was for another reason, namely that when the cast were teens themselves during the production of the pilot season they'd often be taken aside and bullied 1-on-1 by Whedon when they didn't perform the way he wanted (often being expected to proceed without safe working conditions in example). By season 5 they had some weight in the game as the show was successful and they demanded that Whedon not be allowed to traumatize her the way he had them. The showrunners agreed. Everyone probably knew Whedon was a piece of work but as he made successful shows and films Hollywood kept it under wraps until canceling became more commonplace and people such as Whedon were held responsible for their actions. He's clearly a disgusting human being either way.

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +67

Nothing that Whedon did should have him uttered in the same breath as two serial rapists for crying out loud.

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QuintoBlanco 6 days ago +17

It depends on context. It's not just about what they specifically did, it's also about being part of a system that's fundamentally flawed. Whedon using his power as a showrunner to hook up with young actresses, and being emotionally cruel to women, is far removed from raping women. But it is part of a system where women are treated as commodities and men (and a few women as well) acting like they can do whatever they want.

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +16

Yep I agree with all of that, which is why the lack of context in OP is dangerous imo. It suggests one thing while ignoring the wider issue.

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Mister_Dink 6 days ago +10

Hollywood is just where we see predators we ALL recognize. American culture has always been very permissive of people in power being sex pests. You see it in churches, schools, rock'n'roll (and music, broadly), gymnastics (and other sports, too), college greek life, and on and on. We have been, and continue to, live in a r*** culture. Anyone with a crumb of power can get away with it.

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dogsonbubnutt 6 days ago +2

fred rodgers. exactly as incredible a human as everyone thought he was.

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Dead_man_posting 6 days ago +6

lumping Whedon in with serial rapists is insane. He's just a bully, not a criminal.

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Suitable-Many-8517 6 days ago +3

Well, Nickelodeon.

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Pachirisu_Party 6 days ago +8

That Helga is a predator?

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Georgie_Leech 6 days ago +26

More like abused child that latched onto basically the first boy that wasn't hurting her. Healthy? No. Predatorial? Also no.

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Kalse1229 6 days ago +1

I heard the guy who voiced Grandpa is a heavy drunk who regularly gambles with the mob. Might be why his skin is so yellow.

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Massive_Weiner 6 days ago +182

The guy with a history of sexually harassing/assaulting girlfriends and even fans? Yeah, that tracks.

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PornoPaul 6 days ago +17

Simultaneously isn't his twin a stand up guy?

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Batbuckleyourpants 6 days ago +64

>When I heard the news that he died, I cried out of pure relief,” Doe 1 — who is among the almost 9,000 members of a Nicholas Brendon Awareness Facebook group Holy shit...

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NotACatfish 5 days ago +13

I'm in the group. It's grim.

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DramaBrat 4 days ago +1

I used to lurk in the group. Grim is a good word to describe it.

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yaboyjiggleclay 6 days ago +66

Of course he would look up the age of consent laws of South Carolina. Of course he’s THAT type of guy.

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aspidities_87 6 days ago +44

It’s giving ‘laminated Romeo and Juliet laws card’ energy

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Perpete 5 days ago +2

When Mark Whalberg might become your stepfather, you want to come prepared and have law on your side. Because Marky Mark is known for respecting laws.

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TheWholeOfTheAss 5 days ago +2

Reeled of AoC’s like they’re state capitals.

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QuadraKev_ 6 days ago +26

>almost 9,000 members of a Nicholas Brendon Awareness Facebook group jfc

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Muffafuffin 6 days ago +32

Least surprising news

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bruinslacker 6 days ago +37

When he was 29 and we were 15 he hit on classmate of mine. When she told him how old she was, he said “well that’s f****** illegal” and left her alone. So at some point he had a sense of morality (or at least legality) keeping his creepiness in check. Too bad he seems to have gotten more abusive as he got older

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Kalse1229 6 days ago +36

> When she told him how old she was, he said “well that’s f****** illegal” and left her alone. I'm sorry, that's actually kind of funny. If he hadn't done all that stuff in the following years (likely exacerbated by substance abuse), that'd probably be a mildly amusing anecdote years later.

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bruinslacker 6 days ago +9

At the time we thought it was really funny. Now that I know how awfully he treated other women, my feelings about it have changed.

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pobodys-nerfect5 5 days ago +6

I wonder if it would’ve been a different answer if she was alone

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WWTBFCD3PillowMin 6 days ago +81

I remember being super confused after the announcement of his death and seeing SO MANY people just completely falling apart over their beloved Buffy actor- when last I remembered of him he was a disgraced perv that all the other Buffy Alum. had done their work to distance themselves from his toxicity so as not to taint their current projects they all had going on.

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showtimebabies 6 days ago +41

I didn't know anything about any of this until I saw this post. I had, just until 5 minutes ago, a rather high opinion of this guy lol. Somehow I managed to miss all of these stories. I also don't know his name. Just that he was in buffy and a cool micro budget sci fi movie I saw once and forgot the name of. Alas, we can't have anything nice, can we?

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uptheaffiliates 6 days ago +8

Coherence.

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showtimebabies 6 days ago +5

that's the one!

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RemnantEvil 5 days ago +5

I'm in the midst of going through the series again, and the Xander character has aged absolutely atrociously, especially in light of both Joss Whedon and now Brendon's behaviour.

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shadowndacorner 5 days ago +3

I didn't see Buffy until a couple of years ago. Xander was annoying, but in a way that felt fitting for a high school loser dude. I remember thinking he was so obviously channeling Chandler from Friends that it was grating, but even that kinda makes sense for a 90's loser in high school using humor as a defense mechanism. At least some episodes of the show were seemingly aware of how much Xander sucked. Sucks that the actor was a creep.

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ulong2874 6 days ago +81

A lot of people just aren't staying informed about every actor in everything they watch, right? For many many buffy fans they watched the show and moved on. Maybe every now and then they rewatch the show either on streaming or dvd. If you weren't engaging with online fan communities, or googling "hey what is nicholas brendon up to these days" you'd never have had an opportunity to learn about him. Then you'd just see a random post that he was dead and think "aw man, that guy was a part of my favourite show as a teenager, that is sad"

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WWTBFCD3PillowMin 6 days ago +2

I’ve only watched it back when it was first coming out, but then I would see his picture next to the headline and think “Oh my gosh that’s the dude from Buffy! What is he up to? Oof! Nvm…” so I get it, I’m just the reverse of your example! Lol

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APiousCultist 6 days ago +32

People don't stay that informed over every actor or celebrity. Listnook mourned William Hurt because they presumably didn't know Marlee Matlin had accused him of violent r***. Brad Pitt still has a flourishing career after physically abusing his wife and children on a plane. Kirk Douglas died a beloved actor, despite allegedy raping a 16-yo Natalie Wood in 1955. If I included every actor that I know had some form of sexual accusation or unpleasant tie to Polanski I'd be here an hour. A lot is ignorance, some is doubt over what is almost always unproven allegations, and some is people just not finding it in themselves to care (whether that be inconvenience, empathy exhaustion, or just genuine indifference). But in the case of someone only really known for a supporting role in a 2000s TV show? Yeah I think the majority of people just didn't know about Brendon's crimes.

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yanginatep 6 days ago +11

For a moment I got William Hurt and John Hurt confused and I was sad. Then I realized who William Hurt was and that yeah, I knew about him. Always made his inclusion in the MCU movies feel really uncomfortable.

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Heisenburgo 6 days ago +5

Yeah the fact he kept showing up in the MCU was lowkey awful, then for Cap America 4 they replaced his character with Roman Polanski's number one fan, absolutely nasty behaviour from Marvel execs right there

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APiousCultist 6 days ago +7

Number one fan would be tough, given how many actors and directors signed that f****** petition. I think it might be easier to count the number of people in Hollywood actual critical of Polanski at this point.

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afty 6 days ago +7

He used to do Facebook lives in various states of inebriation. I tuned in occasionally out of curiosity and it was honestly kind of pathetic and sad. It was also pretty public he abused his ex's, so I never had a high opinion of him to begin with. He was really erratic

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Judson_Scott 6 days ago +3

> uper confused after the announcement of his death and seeing SO MANY people just completely falling apart over their beloved Buffy actor I go to horror cons, and meet and occasionally hang out with the actors. I know literally nothing about their personal lives, because why would I know or care about that?

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TheElusiveFox 5 days ago +6

I feel like this is old news - like wasn't he prosecuted for something like this more than a decade ago? I remember he wasn't at the reunion because he was charged with doing something to his ex or something like that...

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bravetailor 6 days ago +28

When you can't turn off method acting

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +41

Joss Whedon has never been accused of anything like what Brendon has been accused of. This is a pretty irresponsible thing to suggest.

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +66

All evidence points to this being because of his awful temper, rather than what you’re suggesting. Trachtenberg was deliberately and understandably not specific, and other cast members have spoken in the past about protecting her from his tantrums. Just because he’s an a****** that doesn’t make it okay to imply that he’s a paedophile.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +13

Yeah he was bullying her instead- it was SMG that didn’t want him near her unless she and others were also in the room. Sadly between that and James Marsters writing a jailbait song about her- she didn’t seem to have a good time on that set. That probably explains why she always placed emphasis on SMG protecting her and treating her like her real little sister.

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +22

Yeah to be clear, I’m not trying to absolve Joss. But I do think accuracy matters. Glibly implying he’s a paedophile is deeply irresponsible because people will believe it. But he was clearly a bully who fostered a toxic work environment. I think Michelle and Sarah knew each other from before Buffy as well so they were already close.

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +14

No you’re right. It’s important to be accurate. Joss was accused of verbal abuse and bullying. With Michelle- he had reduced her to tears and was described as being cruel towards her- which is why SMG stepped in. You’re right they knew each other from All My Children. She pushed for Michelle to be cast as Dawn. They were always close and Michelle spoke very highly of her.

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aspidities_87 6 days ago +8

>James Marsters writing a jailbait song I’m sorry….*what?* Can a single male from the BtVS cast not be weird, please? Has someone checked on Giles’ actor lately? Please say he’s not a f****** weirdo. Please.

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +11

Anthony Head seems fine

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +8

https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/ok-we-have-to-talk-about-that-song-james-marsters-wrote-for-michelle-trachtenberg Nothing crazy has been said about Anthony Head if that’s a consolation. In fact- he seems to have a good reputation with crew, costars and fans. The men from this show are problematic apart from him and Marc Blucas (Riley).

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aspidities_87 6 days ago +6

Thank God for Giles I guess. And we all knew Riley was an unproblematic vanilla man, that was the problem (jk he seems like a good guy).

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Dead_man_posting 6 days ago +3

just keep him away from vampire prostitutes.

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ChickenInASuit 6 days ago +4

Yeah, the guy is *definitely* a creep towards women (like he literally confessed to it in a letter to his wife) but there’s been no indication of him being a creep towards minors.

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EchoesofIllyria 6 days ago +7

Even then, I don’t believe there have been any allegations of sexual assault or non-consensual encounters (the messiness of power imbalances aside). By all accounts he was what used to be known as a womaniser.

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PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips 6 days ago +12

RIP Michelle Trachtenberg.

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tele_ave 6 days ago

Whaaaaat goddamn that’s fucked up.

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alexlp 6 days ago +7

Majority of the original male cast seem to be!

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Anxious_Comedian_ 6 days ago +31

Crazy that James Marsters wrote this song about Michelle Trachtenberg when she was only 15 and managed to get away with it. The early 2000s was truly a terrible time for child/teen actresses. https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/ok-we-have-to-talk-about-that-song-james-marsters-wrote-for-michelle-trachtenberg

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Stellaaahhhh 6 days ago +13

Ew. 'Pretty little feet'? Ew.

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alexlp 6 days ago +19

And dated a high schooler, eventually marrying her, 23 years her senior, dumped her not long after she turned 30 which tracks cause women over 30 have no value apparently. And David Boreanaz can’t help but get his d*** out all the time. Seth Green is an abusive boss. Joss really found his guys!

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rayword45 6 days ago +3

> which tracks cause women over 30 have no value apparently These days the manosphere rhetoric is any woman over 25 lmfao I don't get it myself, literally >90% of the women I've dated have been older than me and a majority of the other Gen Z men I've known have also mostly dated women older than themselves.

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mdavis360 6 days ago +3

Seth Green? I had never heard of this.

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Charrbard 6 days ago +3

Maybe the Big Bads were the good guys all along? Anyone checked in on the Mayor?

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CynicElle 6 days ago +4

So is Anthony Stewart Head ok? (Please?)

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alexlp 6 days ago +3

Seems cool! Highly respected by others he’s worked with and no dodgy fan interactions that I’ve seen.

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scrffynrfhrdr 6 days ago +28

He used to come into a restaurant I worked at circa 2013. He was known for being kind of a d***.

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ElvishLore 6 days ago +18

Well at least he had a couple weeks of fans mourning him before we come to realize the piece of shit he was. You can’t take Xander from me, though.

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Princessformidable 6 days ago +25

He's a twin. Just pretend it was never really Nicholas on the show.

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jdbolick 6 days ago +28

I never understood why anyone liked the Xander character. He undermined and backstabbed Buffy throughout the show due to his anger about her rejecting his advances.

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violue 6 days ago +23

Yeah I feel like realizing "oh wait Xander *really* sucked" is a rite of passage we all must experience eventually.

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ElvishLore 6 days ago +11

He was a teen and had issues. And all his friends were cooler than him. I forgave Xander for his flaws.

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Kalse1229 6 days ago +10

He matured a lot after leaving high school and getting that construction job. Except for the wedding fiasco in season 6, which I wouldn't say I *agree* with him doing, but given the events of the episode I can at least understand how he came about that decision.

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Dead_man_posting 6 days ago +3

The only time he backstabbed Buffy was when he didn't tell her about being able to save Angel. After season 2 he basically gets over the crush.

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jdbolick 6 days ago +6

He undermined her throughout the entire show. In S3, he called her a s***. In S4 and S5, he deliberately sabotaged her relationship with Riley. In S6, he insulted her for being with Spike. In S7, he kicked her out of her own house.

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Dead_man_posting 5 days ago +6

that's certainly a creative interpretation of the show

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jdbolick 5 days ago +4

No, it is factual. And that's without even getting into the character's misogyny toward Cordelia and Anya.

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MarcusTheAnimal 5 days ago +2

He isn't the only misogynistic character, the show is full of them and many are adversaries. He's a deeply flawed character who struggles to not turn out like his father, who was an even bigger POS. Bad parenting was a constant theme of the show and it has it's nuances. There are hints at how terrible his home life is. Its even played for laughs, which is kind of tragic. Despite all of this, yeah, some aspects of the show have aged terribly and he's often a d*** of a character. Nuance.

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plutoglint 5 days ago +3

You are not supposed to 'like' every character in every piece of media. Xander was an excellent representation of a teenage male outcast (and had many redeeming qualities too).

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Douglasqqq 6 days ago +22

He's strangling angels now.

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Nitirat 5 days ago +2

Demons*

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nickdebruyne 6 days ago +18

Well, of course. It would have been awfully strange if he groomed a teenager years AFTER his death.

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remeard 6 days ago +5

Why do you think the show was called Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

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PSCGY 5 days ago +3

*“When I heard the news that he died, I cried out of pure relief,” Doe 1 — who is among the almost 9,000 members of a Nicholas Brendon Awareness Facebook group, where alleged victims share their stories and exchange resources — told us.* A whole community… WTF

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vocalviolence 5 days ago +4

In other words, he was perfectly cast as Joss Whedon's insufferable self-insert.

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AuburnElvis 6 days ago +6

It'd be MUCH weirder if he did it after his death.

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Well_Socialized 6 days ago +7

Oops I take back my mental "RIP" upon hearing he was dead

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tele_ave 6 days ago +2

Just make the p stand for pain

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Karjalan 5 days ago +2

Or Piss

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Lossagh 5 days ago +2

I remember there being a FB group over 15 years ago where people discussed his behaviour... I didn't think this was news.

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cidvard 4 days ago +2

Well, that's awful.

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Archius9 6 days ago +9

Definitely well cast as Joss Whedon’s self insert

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Mst3Kgf 6 days ago +1

Exactly what I was thinking. Whedon must've found him a kindred spirit.

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PropertyChemical458 6 days ago +3

no shit, eh?

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Pachirisu_Party 6 days ago +6

The dude had some pretty severe substance abuse problems. All the creepiness that came with it isn't very surprising.

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rayword45 6 days ago +25

idk about that one man I've had my bouts with addiction and binges and whatnot but I've never groomed children as a result of being high

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ryhaltswhiskey 5 days ago +4

>“So I was sending them and sending him those, and he goes, ‘That’s not enough. I want to see all of you,'” she alleged. “And I was like, ‘I’m not comfortable with that.’ And he goes, ‘I’m famous. I’m giving you attention. You should be doing what I ask you to do.'” Well that's gross

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sqwud0nmics 5 days ago +1

"I'm famous you should do what I say" I don't care how many people I upset, I don't believe he said that sentence.

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HolyDoucheBags 2 days ago +1

That was an uncomfortable read. Not just him being an all around creep but “doe 1” as a 30yro woman’s take on it all. He absolutely was a predator and groomer, no doubt. But her wording doesn’t sit right either. Not sure if it’s her calling her childhood photos as “tasteful n****” or how much she focuses on the fact she was after an acting career from him. The part where she says how devastated she was because she thought “that he was going to help me.” as in help her non-existent career, and how that caused her horrific trauma is very weird. Like him not making her famous was the worse thing he did? Being groomed is traumatic, but if that’s what traumatized her why does she continuously complain and come back to the fact he didn’t make her a star like she wanted. Would that have made what he did ok? Why at 30 is that her biggest takeaway from being groomed? Maybe it’s just the way the article is written, but it comes across like to her that’s what he did wrong, not that she was a minor. I grew up in the 90s when the internet was a free-for-all for predators so grown men were constantly trying to groom me and I can’t imagine bitching because I didn’t get all the gifts they promised me lmao. I’m more concerned by what they did, ya know? LOL

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sonic_sox 5 days ago

How about let’s convict ppl who are alive and in the Epstein-Trump files

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Anxious_Comedian_ 5 days ago +3

How about we let his victims speak out against his abuse and you talk about Trump on the politics sub. This is the television sub and he was a television star- why are you bringing up Epstein here? Yes those people need to be held accountable and convicted- that doesn’t suddenly mean a known abuser like Brendon’s victims can’t speak out about his abuse.

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