California hit by much higher oil prices as Iran war stresses refiners

I was a child in LA in the 70s and remember the smog. You couldn’t see the mountains.

Then why are their prices always so much higher than every other state? Are they used to it, so the gas stations screw them?

That’s what the poor people are sold on. The rich that travel by private jet for 2 hours causes as much smog as 7-15 cars driving roughly 1000 miles.

Uh speak for yourself man, I hate getting gouged at the pump here.

This was true 20 years ago. Fuel quality across the country has increased a ton since then. Now it is just needlessly increasing costs.

A lot ofnit would be easier and cheaper if you just put forth not being so damn car dependent

Not gonna be many people to “enjoy” the clean air and water when people can’t afford to feed their family or have to live on the street because they paid all their income on the environment. Also much of the tax money earmarked for the environment just goes to lining politicians pockets

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'Not enough'? There's none. California/Oregon/Washington are effectively an island. Jones Act makes it expensive to bring oil down from Alaska, plus their reserves are declining. CAs are declining badly. So CA gets most of the rest from overseas, mostly South America. It's not really the direct access to Middle East oil that's the problem, but container fuel stores in the Pacific are nearly tapped out and fuel surcharges on all shipping is going up. You have 140 tankers trapped in the gulf, so the global throughput is way down, etc. This is why the US should have pushed harder on EVs and hybrids to minimize the impact from this garbage. China is going to clean up after this mess as the global supplier of clean energy, EVs, etc. Americans want to buy their big expensive trucks and complain about the price of gas. Most people complaining about gas prices shouldn't be taken seriously.

Nah 2 of the 4 or 5 refineries for our summer blend are closing this summer. One for maintenance and one is just getting out of the business entirely. We were looking at 6 dollar gas this summer before all this Iran c***. Probably 8-10 now in all likelihood.

I wonder how many people will drive from California to Iowa to gloat getting cheaper gas

Aren't most Iranians in the US, also the most vocally in support of regime change? 

And that's why gasoline prices are highest in CA?

I didn’t disagree with the article I just find it odd how much coverage California is getting of the Iran war, all I said lol

Plus California has shut down and will be shutting down a few major refineries adding to the supply pressure.

Laws could be changed to allow temporary changes for gas requirements in Calif to get through emergencies. A pipeline should have been built from the large oil tank farm at [Cushing, Oklahoma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_industry_in_Cushing,_Oklahoma) out to California decades ago.

Even if we didn't have unique requirements we'd have the same problem. There are no pipelines connecting the rest of the country to CA/OR/WA. We're an island and the formulation doesn't affect the cost of refining. CA isn't as bad off as HI which is a very small self-contained market, but that's essentially the problem.

It was about $4.50 on a good day, down inexplicably from $5.50 at the beginning of the year. Why it has been dropping is weird, other than Trump's gas and oil boy did so to make him look better with other prices going way up.

In Louisiana, a place filled with refineries, it was 4.00 last time I filled the tank (last weekend).

How much of that is a tax coming from the state of California?

OC, Riverside County for sure

> This has nothing to do with Cali MAGAs. Cali MAGAs, the largest Republican voting block in the country, voted completely in favor of trump and his policies, including but not limited to, bombing Iran. They donate to and propagate all talking points of the party. Having gas it 10 dollars a gallon is 100% on them.

Is there really a concentration of defense contractors in the bay? Seems much higher in SoCal. But I'm struggling to find a good source for numbers of people employed in each region.

Without the public transit infrastructure.

Home to the emerald triangle as well.

How can MAGA own the libs if everyone's paying the same for gas?

I don’t think you’re supposed to fire Tomahawk missiles at schools, if we wanna get technical.

Didn’t you hear? It’s no longer about defense it’s all war all the time hence the Department of War. Patriots are Air War missiles.

You are correct and I sincerely apologize

Right, you fire tomahawks at schools instead of patriot, same deduction, f****** scumbags.

You can receive your answer by searching "school missile" on any search engine.

I didn’t realize the fuel blend was different. Learn something new every day.

There's also just the fact that we get scalped here in CA. They did a formal investigation at the state level if memory serves, and couldn't account for 90 cents per gallon or so of charges. Everything else was accounted for including the summer blend. Just every level of production, distribution, and sales adds a little on because it's already more expensive.

The blend isn’t the problem. The problem is refinery closures.