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News & Current Events May 1, 2026 at 4:15 PM

Camp Mystic says it won't reopen Texas camp this summer

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Camp Mystic says it won't reopen Texas camp this summer
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Camp Mystic says it won't reopen Texas camp this summer
The camp said it informed the Texas Department of State Health Services on Thursday that it is withdrawing its application for a summer 2026 camp license.

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rightious May 1, 2026 +2507
Working a senior level director position at summer camps for over a decade, it is sickening to read how low the bar is for texas state approval and that the camp was not ACA certified. This tragedy could have been avoided in so many ways. The American Camp Association can sometimes feel like the no fun fun police and their requirements can "overreach" at times but I would NEVER send anyone I know to a camp that wasn't certified by them.
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take_care_a_ya_shooz May 1, 2026 +1646
People hate regulations until they learn why they exist in the first place.
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sir-winkles2 May 1, 2026 +584
except even the people who sent their girls to this camp, almost to their deaths last summer, were still supporting them opening this year. it's absurd
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FraterSofus May 1, 2026 +554
My boss is friends with the owners. Her child survived the flood. She still fully supports them despite everything. Stupid can't be fixed, unfortunately.
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Prophet_Tehenhauin May 1, 2026 +377
If she didn’t support them she’d probably have to confront the fact that she sent her kid to a camp run by incompetent morons that apparently even a tiny bit of research could’ve alerted her too. And idk that fact might make her feel like a bad mom or something. Better to just hope there isn’t a second flood. 
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FraterSofus May 1, 2026 +86
>incompetent morons Birds of a feather and whatnot.
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tom90640 May 1, 2026 +23
> Better to just hope there isn’t a second flood.  In a camp in a flood plain.
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Seyon_ May 1, 2026 +109
"god's plan" probably comes out of their mouth every 2 seconds.
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swolfington May 1, 2026 +56
its always part of god's plan unless they don't like the people telling them what to do.
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Alphaspade May 1, 2026 +9
"If there is a god, the god is either not all mighty, or not all good. Can't be both"
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SkunkMonkey May 1, 2026 +9
If that's the best their god can plan, I want nothing to do with them.
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pfannkuchen89 May 1, 2026 +40
It’s like the parents in Uvalde re-electing the same people that enabled the deaths of their kids and did nothing even afterwards.
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Ri-Sa-Ha-0112 May 1, 2026 +23
Out of curiosity, did she intend to send her daughter back had they re-opened this year?
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FraterSofus May 1, 2026 +22
Yes, I believe so.
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hastypeanut May 1, 2026 +51
Jesus, imagine the trauma for their child. Having your parent sign you back up for a place where you lived through seeing your campmates swept away and die.
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JealousAstronomer342 May 1, 2026 +42
People that obsessed with image and “tradition” genuinely do not care how their kids feel or are doing. They care about whether their behavior reflects well on themselves as parents and that’s about it, and even then they usually spin it like the teacher is biased for punishing their angel rather than take accountability and help their kids grow into functioning human beings. 
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gentlecrab May 1, 2026 +27
That is wild aren’t there bodies still buried they weren’t able to recover? Hey kids remember that camp? Well you’re going back except this time it’s haunted.
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LogensTenthFinger May 1, 2026 +32
And that's why regulations exist. Morons can't be trusted to make the right decisions.
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TriceCreamSundae May 1, 2026 +21
It’s their place to be exclusive and to shun all the poors who can’t afford the 5-figure sum for a few weeks at camp. Without it they might have to admit to themselves that they’re just like the rest of us.
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eXecute_bit May 1, 2026 +86
Can't let a little tragedy stand in the way of multigenerational TrAdItIoN
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Calm-Ad-7928 May 1, 2026 +28
I know one of the girls whose daughter died in that flood and she most definitely is not supporting them opening
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EquipLordBritish May 1, 2026 +24
Probably some 'it all turned out okay for me' mentality. They won't actually give a shit until real consequences hit them in the face, i.e. their child actually dies there.
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khinzaw May 1, 2026 +19
Sometimes not even then, like the anti-vaxxers who don't regret their position after their children die of measles.
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pfannkuchen89 May 1, 2026 +13
Or the parents of the kids who died in Uvalde. Turned around and kept on voting for the people that enable it and refuse to acknowledge it’s a problem. “Oh shit, our kids got gunned down in yet another school shooting. Better change absolutely nothing and buy more guns. That’ll surely help.”
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Noclevername12 May 1, 2026 +36
It’s how they justify sending them in the first place. Not sending them would be admitting they sent them to an unsafe location and did no diligence about it.
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eldestdaughtersunion May 1, 2026 +37
Camp Mystic was an institution. It's been open for nearly 100 years, and owned and operated by the same family that entire time. Mystic (along with the other camps like it - Waldemar, Longhorn, Stewart, La Junta, etc) was a deeply-embedded part of generational social life for upper-class Texans. The camp rosters read like a Who's Who of Texas politics and business. This was not Uncle Spanky's Summer Camp for Praisin' Baby Jesus. This was a *very* well-respected institution that cost around $2500/week to attend. Of course nobody questioned their safety or accreditation. If it's good enough for the governor's kids, it's good enough for theirs. (Disclaimer: I have no idea if Greg Abbott's daughter actually went to Mystic. But many other governors have sent their kids there. LBJ's daughters went there.)
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sm0keythebear May 1, 2026 +25
"Uncle Spanky's Summer Camp for Praisin' Baby Jesus" is sending me
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gerth May 1, 2026 +13
I was about to say something similar. It’s like a morbid form of the Sunk Cost Fallacy
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FunWrangler666 May 1, 2026 +66
Many don't understand that safety rules are written in blood
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euph_22 May 1, 2026 +26
"It's flash flood season in a place called 'flash flood alley' where we run a summer camp next to the river prone to flash floods and it's forecast for heavy rain. Do you think maybe we should plan in case there is a flood?" "Nah, we good fam."
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fresh-dork May 1, 2026 +31
/checks notes... allow power companies to offer massively expensive power, then blame the solar power providers who mostly did okay during the freeze. later on, implement exactly zero mitigations
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OfcDoofy69 May 1, 2026 +10
Policy is always written in blood.
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jaderust May 1, 2026 +580
I just can’t believe the audacity of trying to reopen. 27 girls died. They didn’t find all the bodies. And they wanted to reopen a YEAR later??? It’s ghoulish. And I can’t believe that they had so many parents looking to send their kids there despite the deaths. How could you trust those people with the safety of your children when less than a year earlier they failed so badly that kids and counselors died???
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androshalforc1 May 1, 2026 +251
Hey kids we’re going on a hike. Remember if you find a body we’re going to have to close up camp and your parents won’t get a refund so don’t tell.
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herehaveaname2 May 1, 2026 +6
I don't believe that they'd even close. "hey kids, pull out your binoculars and look up...keep looking for the next 20 feet or so...."
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zevonyumaxray May 1, 2026 +43
Saw this story a couple of weeks ago on national news. Most of the other camps like this failed the safety assessment plan for this year. So now it's something of a unified front against the new regulations. And it's Texas.
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ned_luddite May 1, 2026 +21
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/camp-mystic-floods-texas/683508/ Great article if you want to hear more about the ghouls… and parents too.
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kymberlie May 1, 2026 +33
This one’s better at explaining how the camp owner got them all killed. https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/camp-mystic-will-not-reopen-2026
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MjolnirMark4 May 1, 2026 +10
The demand for blind obedience is so stupid. When I was in elementary school, I heard the story about a teacher that was so strict, that the kids in her class would do nothing without her explicit permission. One day, the janitor walked by the class, and noticed that all the kids were sitting quietly at their desks, doing nothing. He walked in to check on the situation, and found the teacher slumped on the floor, dead from a stroke. When later asked, all of the kids knew something was wrong, but they didn’t want to get in trouble for leaving their desks. So they sat there and watched the teacher struggle, and then die.
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Skatedivona May 1, 2026 +46
Texas loves dead kids. Look at Uvalde too.
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Main-Requirement-521 May 1, 2026 +58
The people in charge should be in jail. I'd be fine with the camp reopening if it was sold to responsible people. 
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Responsible_Fuel7005 May 1, 2026 +133
The camp should never reopen, regardless of ownership. It sits in a floodplain where 4in of rain upstream can lead to a 30+ ft wall of water in less than 45 minutes. It is inherently an unsafe location.
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Carrue May 1, 2026 +13
From what I saw looking at the topo, the camp is built on the actual riverbed. I assume that spot is typically dry, but has everyone in Texas LOST THEIR F****** MINDS?
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fractiouscatburglar May 1, 2026 +30
Who’d want to buy it?! I think there are still unrecovered bodies!
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InvidiousPlay May 1, 2026 +37
They could be anywhere between there and the ocean, or indeed, in the ocean. Those bodies will never be found. Most likely buried under several feet of compacted mud miles from where they died.
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astanton1862 May 1, 2026 +19
He died in the flood.
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SantaFeRay May 1, 2026 +23
The director was the biggest problem, and fortunately he can’t endanger any more lives.
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Dust601 May 1, 2026 +168
I think the thing that shocks me the most the more we learn about it is just how many people dropped the ball along the way. 25 kids died because they just had to build a children’s camp in the middle of a flood zone.  25 kids died because they refused a early warning system because apparently saving children’s lives is woke. There are so many people directly responsible for this, and not a single person involved has had to take an ounce of responsibility for it. And now parents want to send their kids right back to the exact same camp, and risk it happening all over again?  What the f*** is wrong with people?  Do these parents even like their kids?
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_coolbluewater_ May 1, 2026 +96
According to an article in Texas monthly, 25 kids died because people were afraid to defy the strict hierarchy enforced by the director. The director who had the evacuation plan “in his head” but didn’t share it with anyone until it was too late
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Archsafe May 1, 2026 +60
Iirc the counselors, who were clearly spread out around the area with the kids, had no walkie-talkies or any other way to communicate with each other or the director
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Tan11 May 1, 2026 +26
Damn, I was a counselor once, and even aside from safety, the whole operation would've been a chaotic shitshow without our walkies.
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Bagellord May 1, 2026 +5
When I was at camp I remember that every location we went, they had a radio or phone. And if we were going off the beaten path, they had at least two with us. And they checked in regularly.
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monkeypickle May 1, 2026 +30
Just to call out - It was originally built 100 years ago. And 10 years later they had a flood that didn't kill anyone, but wiped out most of their cabins. That place has been rolling the dice for a very long time indeed.
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zoobrix May 1, 2026 +50
Reading into the disaster the lackadaisical management attitude at the camp to safety, and their reactions the night of the flood, are sickening. There was time to get all those girls out, but they were more concerned with keeping the campers in their cabins instead instead of evacuating them to higher ground. However I do find a lot of people falling for the line that local and state governments in Texas push is that it was all the camp owners fault and not theirs, they also had let many camps built too close to the river where they should never have been. Inspections of the camp were cursory or non existent. Flood emergency planning at the state and local level was poor. There is a lot of blame to go around on this tragedy, both the camp itself and local and state governments were responsible for this entirely preventable tragedy.
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tiny_galaxies May 1, 2026 +25
This is what happens when the “free market” decides instead of regulation. You get people killed, or their lives permanently changed. Regulations after the fact sadly do not undo that harm, but they can prevent further harm. This is just like the Titan submersible. Let business owners usher in the unsuspecting, and the worst is going to eventually happen.
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ImportantQuestions10 May 1, 2026 +27
I felt something very similar when it came to my fraternity and anti-hazing. They took it significantly more seriously than they needed to. When I was rushing I was disappointed because yeah I didn't want anything bad to happen to me but I wanted it at least some cheeky fun shenanigans. It wasn't until later that it really clicked that the reason they need to be so strict isn't because people will let minor things slide today but because it will allow major things to snowball a decade from now and that is how you end up with dead kids. Like rules are buzzkills but when it comes to young people being unattended, you really need them.
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M1k3yd33tofficial May 1, 2026 +28
My wife was a counselor at Mystic a few years before the floods and she always came back saying that the camp was unsafe. When people tried to raise concerns the owners would always hide behind the “that’s the way we’ve always done it” excuse.
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rightious May 1, 2026 +14
The amount of staff and previous staff that have come out and said like this was not surprising is terrifying and really paid the picture of the place.
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mewmewfoofoo May 1, 2026 +90
This is very typical of any organization run by religious zealots. They hate regulations and use God as their scapegoat for any oopsies.
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beermile May 1, 2026 +23
Anything tragic that happens for them is the fault of sinners elsewhere.
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htpSelect309 May 1, 2026 +20
As a Texan, and a Boy Scout who spent many summers at various camps, this lack of competency and preparedness is astonishing. Despite many of the camps Ive camped at, as both a regular camper and as a leader, not being near flood plains or have a credible threat of flooding, if there was ever heavy rain the campers were either evacuated to higher ground, or the leaders/adults stayed awake, monitoring radio channels, ready to get the campers out if needed. Those girls that died were in cabins ON THE LAKE/RIVER. No excuse for the counselors to not have the girls do a sleepover at the mess hall or another building higher up. No excuse for there not being a counselor monitoring weather alerts throughout the night. No excuse for no phones so the director had to go from his house, to the camp to start evacuations. For that matter, no excuse for the director to be home sleeping when heavy rains are in his area. The anger I have towards the owners and leadership of that camp (and the other camps that didnt evacuate despite multiple warnings) is only tempered by the hope that other camps have learned from this tragedy and will over prepare in the future.
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astro124 May 1, 2026 +12
A lot of Scouting America (BSA) camps aren’t ACA certified, but they go through their accreditation process from the National Council called NCAP I’ve been through that process as an aquatics director, fun times
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rightious May 1, 2026 +7
Oh man, when we changed owners/directors we had to rework everything from the last cycle. I had like ten land activities....uffda.
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oniwuff May 1, 2026 +9
The bar for a lot of things in TX are low, sadly
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Mommy444444 May 1, 2026 +2295
Those USGS streamgaging stations warned everyone. They were real time.
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Married_iguanas May 1, 2026 +952
Oh they knew about them bc they decided to move their canoes and horses out of the area.
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unhiddenninja May 1, 2026 +444
The horses but not the children? How did they even have the choice to stay in business? Jfc.
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FiveCrappedPee May 1, 2026 +565
Because they are white and evangelical. That's like a free pass to do anything you want in this country.
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TheWhiteJoetus May 1, 2026 +164
Paraphrasing Christopher Hitchens: you can get away with the most appalling offenses to truth and decency in this country if you just cloak it in religion.
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Zafnick May 1, 2026 +97
Especially to children
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meowser210 May 1, 2026 +43
Because the people that are sick enough to send their kids there still are ok with it.
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hamburgerjesus May 2, 2026 +25
Well yeah horses are expensive and those girls are up in heaven having a blast now /s
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jfsindel May 2, 2026 +46
I didn't even hear that part. These people should have been charged with a counts of manslaughter or something.
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Married_iguanas May 2, 2026 +31
They should 1000% be charged with negligence
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Raumteufel May 1, 2026 +60
"Horses? We can't afford to lose no horses."
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PhilosopherFLX May 1, 2026 +48
"dog-gone near lost a $400 handcart"
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euph_22 May 1, 2026 +795
The county was offered money for automated warnings and sirens. They initially refused because it was the Biden administration who offered it. Then they decided that they should accept but use it for something else because they didn't want to take part of his communist agenda. They gave the sheriff department raises and build a walking trail with the money instead. The utter lack of any duty of care from anybody in a decision making position related to this is just disgusting.
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ZyklonCraw-X May 1, 2026 +276
Killing your kids, to own the libs.
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HrhEverythingElse May 2, 2026 +104
I can't believe that anyone would ever be willing to send their kids there after last year. I heard that they expected *nine hundred campers* this year. Parents of nearly a thousand children wanted to put them in that place, what the actual hell. I'm so relieved that they won't be open
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New_Improvement9644 May 2, 2026 +43
The camp fee is over $6k...........
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Sugar_Kowalczyk May 1, 2026 +211
The camp itself had claxons that they chose not to activate to warn, and instead had teen children delivering instructions door to door between cabins.  How there aren't dozens of negligent homicide charges against this family astounds me.  Good old Christian Texans. 
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jaderust May 1, 2026 +114
Honestly, probably because the patriarch of the family who owned the camp was something of a tyrant who didn’t try to evacuate the camp until it was far too late. He died in the flooding, presumably trying to make it to a cabin to evacuate it, so he had a hero’s death on paper because he was trying to save kids. Nevermind that he was the one who made the call to move both canoes and horses to higher ground before they even tried to move the kids. But he’s the one that would be most at risk of facing charges and he’s dead. It’s harder to go after the rest of the family as they can point to the dead man and both blame him for every bad decision and cry about the state being mean to them even after they also suffered a loss.
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HIM_Darling May 2, 2026 +31
It’s absolutely wild that they didn’t have walkie talkies for emergencies. I have a feeling this place has some long buried skeletons in their closet because you can’t tell me in all the years of its operation, not one emergency came about where someone needed help and it was delayed because they had to send runners to the office before emergency calls could even start to be made? Not one kid had an asthma attack, anaphylactic allergic reaction, seizure, etc in the middle of the night and didn’t get help right away because there’s no way for them to call for help and apparently the counselors don’t go through any emergency training?
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TooTameToToast May 1, 2026 +9
This story just keeps getting worse and worse.
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Annual_Strategy_6206 May 1, 2026 +35
This is one of the worst parts of this story. Another reason that came out during the investigations was the complaint that if the sirens went off accidently,  it would wake people up.
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Revolution-SixFour May 1, 2026 +115
"Hey! How were we to know it would happen while we were still in office?!"
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rrrrrivers May 1, 2026 +12
Man if someone were a believing Christian, they might read into all that as God telling them they were wrong for their actions and they should work together with one another for the greater good...
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IAMA_Plumber-AMA May 1, 2026 +87
These people have the minds of f****** toddlers, I swear.
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ModishShrink May 1, 2026 +40
Even a toddler would take free f****** money
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truetalentwasted May 1, 2026 +13
With no context and context this is a wild comment.
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StingingBum May 1, 2026 +24
Politics before saving lives from disaster.
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oatmealparty May 1, 2026 +57
They also planned to take the money and just not do anything with it, to prevent it being used in a liberal state.
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Miguel-odon May 1, 2026 +15
Even then, automated sirens would probably not go up every branch, usually just near populated areas. But it doesn't matter, because they knew the flood was coming. They moved the horses and the canoes.
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YoungRichBastard26s May 1, 2026 +10
The people responsible should have been fired those kids deaths are on they hands
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jefbenet May 1, 2026 +81
Also, the camp is and has been built in a LITERAL river basin. Last year was not their first catastrophic loss/destruction. Maaaaaybe it’s time to relocate the camp.
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BrothelWaffles May 1, 2026 +50
More like maaaaaaaaaaaybe it's time to shut the f****** camp down for good because these people shouldn't even be allowed to be responsible for a goldfish, let alone children.
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SureWtever May 2, 2026 +8
I’ve been there in person. The most difficult to believe thing is how close it was that they would have had to move to be out of harms way. Like you stand there and look to your left and it’s where they all drowned - you look to your right and had they just moved there they would presumably be alive. Yeah, it’s was a storm and raining but it wasn’t miles they needed to evacuate.
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moose098 May 1, 2026 +116
They also tried to blame the NWS, despite the NWS doing everything it’s suppose to do.
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boyyhowdy May 1, 2026 +225
Sounds like communism to me.
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Annual_Strategy_6206 May 1, 2026 +45
The gubmint caint tell us what to evacuate!
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BeGneiss May 1, 2026 +30
USGS has also suffered immensely under the current administration. They’re having to cut streamgaging efforts in a lot of states because they just don’t have the staff they need to run them anymore. Really discouraging.
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Highbynine May 1, 2026 +782
Camp mystic should be permanently shut down. 27 girls died last year because of their gross incompetence and these selfish greedy fucks tried their best to reopen this year. Their own lawyer even told the opposition to “burn in hell” (christian camp btw). Edit: Thank you for the awards kind strangers!
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thatoneredheadgirl May 1, 2026 +276
Some of them mentioned it was god’s will for the girls to die. WTF.
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[deleted] May 1, 2026 +82
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Ok-Stranger-7072 May 1, 2026 +22
No need to wonder.
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Msdamgoode May 1, 2026 +20
Can you imagine being a parent and giving your money AND your child over to these goons?
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thatoneredheadgirl May 1, 2026 +18
That camp wasn’t c**** either so it’s not like they didn’t have the money to make it safe
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PrestigiousWear7235 May 2, 2026 +14
It’s estimated the camp would make about $10 million every summer!
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greentea1985 May 1, 2026 +33
Plus, it’s the second time a camp in the same area has lost campers during a flood. It’s an unsafe area to put a camp, period. Why try a third time?
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mjones8004 May 2, 2026 +6
Because flood plain lands are c****? 🤷‍♂️
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bannana May 1, 2026 +30
they never should have reopened after the first flood or the second *The camp is in a high-risk zone, experiencing severe floods in 1951, 1978, and a deadly incident in 1987*
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Valaseun May 1, 2026 +19
Its also important to note that the bunk houses that the children were in were actually on the old river bed. Its pretty apparent in the satellite imagery. Any large influx of water would obviously overflow into the old path of the river.
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Feisty_Yes May 1, 2026 +36
I recently learned about the freethinkers in Texas. Christians did vile things then wrote their own history about it, people of Texas have no idea of what happened to the people who built some of their longest standing buildings.
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bogz_dev May 1, 2026 +6
can you link me to a source to read from? this sounds very interesting
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LiluLay May 1, 2026 +477
They should never reopen. That place should be reclaimed by nature.
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Any_Asparagus8267 May 1, 2026 +163
I have seen I bunch of interviews from the local wealthy parents who's kids were unaffected, they could care less and want it reopened so they have somewhere to dump their kid for the summer.
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LiluLay May 1, 2026 +93
Wealthy people really can’t find anywhere else to send their kids? Mongo is appalled.
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Pangolemur May 1, 2026 +16
r/unexpecteddungeoncrawlercarl
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Pseudoboss11 May 1, 2026 +18
Kiwi is even more appalled.
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LiluLay May 1, 2026 +13
Kiwi is a mother. She understands.
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cpslcking May 1, 2026 +28
Most of these parents don't care or give a shit about their kids. Kids are just things you have because it's a checkmark in being a good Christian family. Get married young, spawn kids, buy a house. Realize you didn't want any of those and cheat on your spouse, neglect your kids and struggle to pay a mortage while complaining about Biden for the cost of things.
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robotjyanai May 1, 2026 +5
Why am I not surprised… I live in a popular tourist destination and in local groups I see tourists ask if anyone can babysit their kids for the entire trip. They’re completely fine with leaving their kids with literal strangers in a foreign country.
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208breezy May 1, 2026 +149
Imagine trying to send your kid here after what happened
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Mingus-S May 1, 2026 +52
anyone that was even considering sending their child needs to give their heads a serious check…
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Economy_Bite24 May 1, 2026 +33
Wait until you learn about how parents continue to send their kids to Christian summer camps that are still run by people who covered up sexual abuse for decades under their watch. Cough cough Kanakuk.
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salted-swan May 1, 2026 +20
My partner has an uncle in Texas who was planning to send his youngest to Mystic lmao. It’s a combination of being deeply religious and having a view of life that’s less sacred compared to the idea of eternal life after death (not for his daughter ofc, but it makes thinking about the 20+ dead other little girls easier on his soul) + the hubris of the wealthy, where he genuinely think that while what happened was very sad, bad things have never happened to him or his family and there’s no reason to believe that will ever change + a general unwillingness to let go of tradition.
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superturtle48 May 2, 2026 +13
Apparently a huge number of the families whose kids didn’t die in the flood were prepared to sign up again, with something like 800 kids on the roster for this year, and it caused major rifts with the families whose kids did die and who wanted to see the camp held accountable. I keep reading about how this camp community was so “tight-knit” and “like family,” and yet they can’t even understand or support their members whose kids died in such a traumatic manner. The safety issues are reason alone to close down the camp, but I also can’t help but believe the camp supporters deserve to have something they cherish ripped away from them so they can feel even a fraction of the pain of those who actually lost their children. 
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alexlp May 1, 2026 +9
You’d have to hate your kid. The trauma the returning campers would feel, the dread from newcomers. Any time it rained you’d have a camp of terrified girls.
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MaverickDago May 1, 2026 +641
The fact that it was even on the table is f****** appalling. What the f*** Texas. I nailed a kid with a water balloon a little too hard one year working at a summer camp and it was a big deal. They still haven't found a dead child and someone was trying to load up the bunks again. Do the owners also sell child sized caskets?
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Yummyyummyfoodz May 1, 2026 +368
I thought the "dead child" was connected to the water balloon thing for a sec omfg lol.
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Fisherington May 1, 2026 +239
/u/MaverickDago threw that water balloon REALLY F****** HARD
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Yummyyummyfoodz May 1, 2026 +68
Knocked the kid clear into the next county, that's why they haven't found them yet.
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DocPsychosis May 1, 2026 +21
The commenter is Randy Johnson and the camper was actually just a small bird.
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MaverickDago May 1, 2026 +49
The depleted uranium water balloons were a bad call both fiscally and morally.
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swolfington May 1, 2026 +7
listen, i mean ice is still technically water.
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anthrohands May 1, 2026 +22
Getting in trouble for the way you threw a water balloon at a child is so peak camp counselor I love it
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thisismynewacct May 1, 2026 +49
I mean the Uvalde school shooting was in Texas and look what came about from that. Nothing
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SwashAndBuckle May 1, 2026 +17
After every school shooting republicans look at the pile of dead children and say “acceptable collateral damage”. No notes, no changes. Not caring about children dying is deeply engrained in their culture.
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thatoneredheadgirl May 1, 2026 +16
In the New York Times article someone in the court hearing going against the camp mentioned how if one child dies in a daycare then they close that daycare. The same should be said about camps. This entire thing is so sad. They clearly haven’t learned from their mistake either.
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Opposite-Program8490 May 1, 2026 +26
No need for caskets if you make sure the bodies are never found!
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FiftyShadesOfGregg May 1, 2026 +33
It wasn’t really on the table, their application to reopen was getting denied— two weeks ago the Texas Department of State Health Services notified Camp Mystic of dozens of issues in their license application, that they had the opportunity to respond to/fix and have apparently now announced they’re opting to stay closed rather than try. It’s not like they’re free to reopen.
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theillusionofdepth_ May 1, 2026 +30
I feel like it’s the fact that they had every intention to reopen.
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FiftyShadesOfGregg May 1, 2026 +25
Yeah the fact that they were trying despite having not addressed dozens of safety issues is clearly problematic. And to now pretend they’re withdrawing out of respect is even worse.
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KAugsburger May 1, 2026 +209
Hopefully, it never reopens. That location is too flood prone and their management seems too complacent to be running a summer camp.
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FiveOhFive91 May 1, 2026 +155
I live close to this camp. Some of my coworkers had to take time off to help search for the missing kids since the bodies may have washed up on their property. They found one of the little girls and it destroyed them. This whole area was wiped out by these floods. Can't believe they actually considered reopening the camp.
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Miguel-odon May 1, 2026 +15
There is a hill right behind the cabins that would have been easy to evacuate up. They didn't bother. They moved the canoes and the horses, though.
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Saltynut99 May 1, 2026 +103
I genuinely can’t believe how many people were still enrolling their kids for this summer. I saw a quote recently and I can’t remember the exact words or who it was from but something about how when Americans excused Sandy Hook it was over. I know this isn’t gun violence, but how many American children have to die awful preventable deaths for regulations to change? Are kids dying in horrific (often avoidable) tragedies really something that country is so desensitized to? Why was opening even a thought? Where is the outrage for the kids from the adults around the country? They were so young and had their whole lives ahead of them.
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TheAskewOne May 1, 2026 +43
That’s radical Christians for you. Dead kids are God’s will and you mustn’t go against it etc.
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PuddingImpressive389 May 1, 2026 +7
Radical Christians is definitely a bit extreme. I went to a Texassummer camp as a kid and was a counsellor to and although some people are radical christians most are just casual believers or there because their parents wanted them gone for a week or two
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eucalyptusmacrocarpa May 1, 2026 +37
Even if (and it's a big if) the camp was completely overhauled and totally safe and had flood sensors and a levee and evacuation helicopters, I still wouldn't want to send my kids there because everyone would know what happened, they would be talking about it, and can you imagine going to bed on the first night, with strangers, in the same place where girls like you died? How petrified would you be? Why would anyone want to traumatise their kids like that? 
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regent040 May 1, 2026 +91
It bothers me that this is the only group of victims that the state of Texas seems concerned about. There were 119 people who lost their lives due to that flood, including other children. The area along the river refused warning sirens that other areas of the hill country use to warn people about floods because they didn’t want to be inconvenienced, they didn’t want to accept money from the Biden administration, and they resented outsiders coming to visit in their area and they felt they had a system that warned those that lived in the area already so they didn’t need anything else. That camp certainly bears a large amount of the blame for the death of their campers, but it wasn’t just them. The civic leaders of that whole community have blood on their hands.
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staticdresssweet May 1, 2026 +38
Safety regulations are written in blood.
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beastwood9498 May 1, 2026 +33
The county and its residents bear blame here too. Nobody wanted to pay or listen to a warning siren system. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/11/nx-s1-5460863/flood-sirens-texas-warning
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29187765432569864 May 1, 2026 +16
Kerr County tried to upgrade its river gauges in the decade before this month's catastrophic flood. The county sought about $1 million in funding for an updated river gauge system and better flood warnings in places where local roads cross rivers. But they were [turned down by state authorities](https://www.npr.org/2025/07/10/nx-s1-5461091/texas-flooding-warning-system-fema). ***Texas state officials repeatedly rejected requests from Kerry County*** to pay for such a warning system, estimated to cost about $1 million. This in a state with a $28 BILLION rainy day fund.
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Ohsostoked May 1, 2026 +121
The Eastlands and all their supporters have adopted the idea that this was some kind of freak, unavoidable accident. They continue to push this idea and point fingers in any direction but at themselves. The idea this was unavoidable is so far from the truth it's disgusting. There was plenty of warning on the night of the flood that flooding should be expected. They knew those cabins were in the floodWAY, not the flood plain but the floodway. Which is basically the bounds of the river. They knew this because they had asked for waivers or variances so those cabins could remain in place and be used as housing. Something that should never be allowed. If that wasn't bad enough this camp has flooded multiple times before. Locals have described the storms that were moving through the area as being as powerful as any the had seen. You shouldn't need a phone or a siren to tell you those cabins were in peril when know your cabins are in a riverbed and there is torrential downpour going on. However, like any true grifter they hide behind religion and act like this is done as a test or part of a larger piece of god's plan that they just have to endure. No, you ghouls, you did this. Your decisions and action DIRECTLY LED TO THESE DEATHS. Forget opening the camp, you should spend your days in a prison cell where , hopefully at some point, the reality of you killing children will penetrate your thick skulls and you will apologize and show some form of remorse. Until then rot, assholes.
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thatoneredheadgirl May 1, 2026 +46
A New York Times article stated that the adults at the camp knew the weather was going to be bad hours before the worst of it happened and they did nothing.
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Daren_I May 1, 2026 +22
> The camp said it informed the Texas Department of State Health Services on Thursday that it is withdrawing its application for a summer 2026 camp license. Days late. The state already issued a release telling them no. > "No administrative process or summer season should move forward while families continue to grieve, while investigations continue and while so many Texans still carry the pain of last July's tragedy," Camp Mystic said in a statement. They're not fooling anyone. They were told no because another flood would still put kids in danger.
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GiantsNerd1 May 1, 2026 +21
A lawyer for Camp Mystic told a lawyer for one of the bereaved parents that they should "burn in hell." They sound like lovely people.
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Tricky-Gemstone May 1, 2026 +58
Good. Those deaths were entirely preventable. It's sick. Those kids died terrified and many of them alone, and one girl was never found.
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Left_Lack_3544 May 1, 2026 +16
1 kid is still missing?
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4oclocksundew May 1, 2026 +26
Yes. Cecilia "Cile" Steward. She was 8.
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Striking_Cook8603 May 1, 2026 +14
I hope they never re-open. They decided to ignore warnings, which led to the loss of workers and camp-goers. Some are still missing so those families don't have their closure yet. And they still decided "Screw writing up our emergency plans to be able to open." They have no regard for life.
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snidece May 1, 2026 +13
I lived in texas and know the kinds of people who can move on from something like this. there was very very little empathy except for immediate neighbors and that was short lived. Wager there are a LOT of parents screaming that this is unfair to their kid because Mystic has been a summer tradition, something like that.
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OsitoPandito May 1, 2026 +12
jesus christ....look at what one of the mothers who kid survived said: Liberty Lindley, whose 10-year-old daughter survived the flood, said confronting the experience could be empowering. "Emotionally, that's part of the work: facing the water again, the fears," she told the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/04/30/camp-mystic-license-reopen/). "It's so important for them to take their power back."
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CheezTips May 2, 2026 +6
It's crucial to their social status
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Designer-Contract852 May 1, 2026 +13
They should never be allowed to reopen in any location. None of the people involved with bad decisions should ever work in any way with children again . 25 children are dead because of the adults in charge's lack of planning or caring and neglect in passing off their jobs to mere teenagers. 
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GoldberrySpring May 1, 2026 +10
The only work they should ever do again is stamping out license plates. Those people belong in prison.
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Jazz-Again May 1, 2026 +9
Who the hell would send their child there?
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clone9786 May 1, 2026 +6
900 people according to AP
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fd6270 May 1, 2026 +27
>The camp’s owner, D*** Eastland, also died in the flooding. Karma rarely, if ever, works this quickly. 
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squeamishfun May 1, 2026 +9
It’s crazy how people are willing to send their kid back there bc it’s tradition !
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BolaSquirrel May 1, 2026 +9
Any parents who would be willing to send their kids to this camp after it opens back up deserve to lose custody.
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29187765432569864 May 1, 2026 +8
It should never reopen, stupidity should not be rewarded. The owners are too stupid to be around children. Just too stupid. For thousands of years people have known that rivers flood, but these owners just decided to ignore that fact, or, they are in fact just grossly stupidi if they knew it could flood and they just ingored the obvious rain. It should not ever be reopend, turn it into a state park, in rememberance.
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shadowdra126 May 1, 2026 +7
Close it down forever.
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freexanarchy May 1, 2026 +7
I don’t think they’ve even found all the bodies? Or was that going to be one of the activities, search for the bones of the kids that went there last year?
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ZweitenMal May 1, 2026 +12
One little girl was never found.
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carolinemathildes May 1, 2026 +10
The camp's application to the state indicated that they were going to have the campers snorkel and free dive in the same river that flooded, where her body still may be stuck. Edward Eastland, camp director, testified that he didn't know those activities were listed in the application, despite having signed the application.
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Ithrinmax May 1, 2026 +8
Who the hell would let their kid go there ever again??
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clone9786 May 1, 2026 +5
900 people according to AP
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boodyclap May 1, 2026 +29
How did they even have this option?
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FiftyShadesOfGregg May 1, 2026 +43
They did not have the option. They had a pending application for a license to reopen the camp in a certain location (the Cyprus camp). Just a couple weeks ago the Texas Department of State Health Services notified the camp of nearly two dozen deficiencies in the emergency plan in their license application. Which, as part of the process, they have an opportunity to cure before the application is officially denied. Clearly they realized it wasn’t possible and rather than have a license denial on their record, they’re withdrawing the application. As the article notes in a quote from grieving parents— this has nothing to do with the camp respecting the little girls who died last year. It has everything to do with a selfish fiscal interest in not having a license denial on their record.
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CDavis10717 May 1, 2026 +13
Didn’t Texas return money to Biden Admin because they didn’t want Democrat money for an Early Warning Flash Flood Alarm system? So Texas.
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teleheaddawgfan May 1, 2026 +6
I'm amazed its even considering reopening.
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Routine-Ad-1161 May 1, 2026 +7
Telling they couldn’t do the minimum required to reopen.
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Chance-Travel4825 May 1, 2026 +5
What parent drops their kid off at a camp that had dozens of kids die BECAUSE of the camp incompetence? Gross. Why would you want your child to think about a bunch of kids dying right where they are standing as part of their fun summer camp? Hell kids could find the bodies that haven been located. Damn, Texas has special people. 
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Honeycove91 May 1, 2026 +39
How are those Texas parents supposed to send their kids off to their deaths now though?
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RuckOver3 May 1, 2026 +22
Oil rigs until they get drafted in the Pedo wars
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mabols May 1, 2026 +5
Correct me if I’m wrong, but one little girl is still missing.
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cinderparty May 1, 2026 +14
Yeah, her parents sued, and won, last month, to preserve the damaged cabins in order to not let the camp destroy potential evidence. https://www.kut.org/crime-justice/2026-04-15/camp-mystic-texas-cile-steward-victims-hearing-court-july-4th-flood
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mabols May 1, 2026 +4
I mean it’s insane to think they’d host more children when there’s a possibility of finding human remains.- of a previous camper no less.
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cinderparty May 1, 2026 +9
Yeah. It’s crazy. When I read in that article I just shared that 800 girls were signed up for this summer already, I was so baffled. How did they find that many parents willing to send their kids to them after all the idiotic mistakes they made last year ended up killing 2 dozen little girls?
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the_eluder May 1, 2026 +5
I'm guessing something like it was the will of Allah.
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Hour-School-2255 May 1, 2026 +5
This summer? How about never f****** agian
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dancingbananas25 May 1, 2026 +5
It shouldn't reopen at all, holy shit
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bionic_cmdo May 1, 2026 +6
Those grounds have been soured. Tear it down.
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GhostwriterGHOST May 1, 2026 +5
Reopening that camp is major league ghoul behavior.
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Correct_Ad6823 May 2, 2026 +5
I can’t imagine why a parent would ever send their precious daughter to summer camp there ever again? Should turn that place into some sort of place of remembrance.
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PinkPaintedSky May 2, 2026 +5
They had kids enrolled for this summer before the courts shut them down. Wtf parents?!
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