Canadians are tired. It's beating after beating ( economically speaking )
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ScaryPillow4 days ago
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Canada is still one of the richest countries in the world, with an unimaginable natural resource wealth, in a relatively peaceful region of the world, and a robustly multicultural and welcoming population.
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gdex4 days ago
+14
Our government doesn’t want to pull any of those resources out of the ground to help actual Canadians and immigration fatigue has kind of ruined the robust multicultural and welcoming population thing you’re talking about
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Curious_Syrup_929123 hr ago
Funny how you rephrase racism..
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gdex22 hr ago
+1
I dont know how being objective about letting way too many people into a place with already strained infrastructure is racist. I didn’t single out a certain group of people in the slightest. Seems like you’ve got a certain group of people in mind though
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ScaryPillow4 days ago
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It’s not that easy to get the resources. Why do you think people dislike immigration?
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gdex4 days ago
+6
It was a lot easier under past governments, the current one has done literally nothing to even try. Canadas let in so many people it’s strained public services drastically. We should’ve built up
Infrastructure before we planned on letting in 10% of our total population in the past 5 years. The way they went about doing so was ham fisted as well with all the diploma mills and tfw programs
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leyabe4 days ago
-1
Small addition: "We should’ve built up Infrastructure before **or simultaneously**"
Unfortunately, neither has happened
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TPCC1594 days ago
+22
If it’s not one of the countries this whole platform is obsessed with, Listnook don’t care
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Hungry_Shake69435 days ago
+101
no one is hiring
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Legmeat4 days ago
+74
There isnt any local hiring. Looking st lima maps there are tons of job openings, but companies take advantage of things like lima and game the system for c**** overseas labor
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Entire_Train73074 days ago
+59
100%, either imported immigrants, where you allegedly can't hire, or simply offshoring jobs to places like India. I work for a Crown Corp that is doing this... this is a huge problem and brain drain offshore, while we have perfectly capable people locally, we refuse to hire/train/pay for the work.
Entry-level Service Desk IT job, 3 years experience, like WHAT!?! I could train someone straight out of highschool to do that job.
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greysneakthief4 days ago
+17
Super tough right now to get IT experience as a Canadian. I have about 3 years of IT and DevOps experience and need a chunk more for my ambitions (pivot into cybersecurity), but competing with TFW or offshore labour is impossible right now. Honestly feels pretty hopeless.
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Relative_What4 days ago
+11
same here but i have 15 years of IT experience, it's been impossible to just get a simple pre-screen phone interview with HR or a recruiter, let alone a interview. and all job postings come with stupid low wages. 55K/year CAD is an insult in this economy
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Legmeat4 days ago
+17
Yeah ive seen kitchen mamager jobs running 50-70k yearly salary. Its not the most knowledge intensive jobs. I find it hard to believe they cant find someone to fill thr position
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TheRealAbiril4 days ago
+23
Outsourcing to India is the single biggest drain on our job market.
I have had multiple friends who had good jobs here move back to India because that's where there's job growth and the companies they're already working for want to move people to India. They personally don't have to take a paycut so they live great, and they'll be put in charge of the outsourced employees as managers who have "learned" Canadian standards. The employees they hire in India are of course paid a pittance.
It's to the point that now all intellectual tasks are being outsourced to India and all manufacturing tasks have already been outsourced to China that there is quite literally nothing but resource extraction and existing hoards of wealth that the country is trying to live off of. Frankly if we want to go down this road we should eliminate immigration altogether and accept that the country is essentially one big natural resource work camp, and everyone who wants to build a life should move to the United States
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codecrodie4 days ago
+2
That means the infrastructure is there to unhuman the roles and when that finally does happen, there wont be a backlash here in canada because it's just some foreigners getting laid off
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GarbageCG4 days ago
+1
lol build a life in the United States
Can’t do that here either. Almost the exact same problem as you described, plus even in the boondocks rent is still 2grand a month, and you won’t have any health insurance
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Broad_Mushroom_80331 day ago
+1
The US definitely has cost issues, but saying rent is $2k everywhere isn’t really accurate, there are still plenty of areas well below that outside major cities. I would actually find it difficult to find a 1bd apartment over $2k in my very large metro area lol. And most Americans (~90%) actually do have health insurance, so it’s more about cost and quality than nobody being covered
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SufficientProof403 days ago
+1
That’s why Canada is “insourcing” to India, we’re bringing India here instead. /S
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MyHeartIsAncient4 days ago
+8
Out of work for 3 years now, game developer with 15 years experience.
The hell is a st lima map?
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Legmeat4 days ago
+13
Its a program run by the government. Its meant to bring in skilled workers from outside of canada, when they are not able to find employees. But instead employers use it as a work around to 1. Get c**** labor. 2 use it as a loophole to get friends and family into the country. They say they cant find people, but in reality they choose not to hire. It shpuld be used for more skilled jobs like engineers, doctors, etc. But instead its for jobs like kitchen managers, low skilled jobs. (Comes back to the loophole). So its a map with circled areas on what places have lima jobs listed
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MyHeartIsAncient4 days ago
+5
Ahhh ... ok thanks for the clarity. Interesting in that I applied for a role a few months ago, at a big box Canadian store, and the position was being back-filled (potentially by me), because the guy in the role currently was expected to not be able to stay in Canada through 2026, as a result of changes to work permitting.
The picture is a little clearer now.
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Legmeat4 days ago
+4
A small fact. Even if thr job posting is in the lima system, i believe local canadians can still apply for said jobs
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Maximum_Error30834 days ago
-7
Not true. My firm has been hiring all year.
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GarbageCG4 days ago
+2
Hiring Canadian?
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TheBestintheWest115 days ago
+37
applied to over 80 jobs last month and nothing. I heard some foreign students were getting jobs at hospitals before me tho.
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Dragonasaur5 days ago
+26
1400-1500 before I got mine, tech
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poopey_doopey_Sr4 days ago
+7
Same and now might have to deal with layoffs... I dunno if I have an other 1500 in me...
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verardi4 days ago
+14
LMIA scam, nothing new unfortunately
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bhumit0124 days ago
+2
Stop "hearing" things and rely on some data, students can only work part time, meaning the employers dont want perm people.
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ScaryPillow4 days ago
Conservatives advocate for 'personal responsibility' but they sure are quick to blame immigrants for everything wrong in their lives.
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Foreign_Milk49243 days ago
Keep carrying water for the corporations, brave altruistic listnookor.
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ScaryPillow3 days ago
-2
I ain’t carrying water for you, that’s for sure. If you want to elaborate, let’s talk.
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gearstars3 days ago
+1
There's been a ton of posts about Canada today where the top comments are all anti-migrant sentiments. Seems....sus...
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Sharkpg133 days ago
+5
sad because lot of people are suffering. but those of us with jobs and investments are doing incredibly well. tsx and spy are both up like 30% in a year. incredible wealth creation while housing is dropping all around.
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bigmandave2x24 days ago
+6
Jeez. I just moved to Canada, rough reading!
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Naive-Chain28304 days ago
+10
Bringing way too many people in from India , all you have to do is look around and see the issue.
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bhumit0124 days ago
-6
always that one guy
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Rohit_Rah4 days ago
-9
This implies the opposite lmao
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Foreign_Milk49243 days ago
+8
No, it doesn't.
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[deleted]4 days ago
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Ponster3 days ago
+10
No it isn’t
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Ornery_Tension32573 days ago
+1
The unemployment rate in Canada using the US methodology is actually lower than the Stats Can figures. Although there has been a recent increase in the existing gap.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250509/dq250509a-eng.htm
"In April 2025, the unemployment rate in Canada (adjusted to US concepts) was 5.8%, 1.6 percentage points higher than the rate in the United States (4.2%). In comparison, the unemployment rate in Canada was 0.9 percentage points higher on average than in the United States over the 2017-to-2019 period."
Also:
....employment rates have historically been higher in Canada than in the United States, reflecting in part the higher labour force participation rates of women. In April 2025, the employment rate was 61.5% in Canada (adjusted to US concepts) compared with 60.0% in the United States. The gap was most notable among core-aged women; the employment rate for women aged 25 to 54 was 79.6% in Canada in April, compared with 75.0% in the United States."
That is the denominator or baseline for the calculation along with the participation rate is proportionality larger in Canada.
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Miss_L_Worldwide4 days ago
-20
Canada is circling the drain
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Mother_Tune_31984 days ago
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I’m in trade. A machinist and programmer. Was looking for a potential new job. Put out 5 inquiries. All 5 msged me. Went to 3 interviews. 3 wanted to hire me in the spot.
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jupfold4 days ago
+54
Problem solved folks!
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fujidust4 days ago
+17
We did it again, Listnook!
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dontcryWOLF884 days ago
-9
Well...hes not wrong....
The average age of a journeyman these days is around 57, and is actually increasing. There is a significant retirement gap, and not enough young people are stepping into these positions to meet demand.
If you want job security, and a position that is relatively safe from AI replacement, it's a smart route to take.
(Edited because my original comment was...not great)
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jupfold4 days ago
+5
Which is great, congratulations; it just doesn’t change the fact the eighteen thousand hard working people lost their livelihoods last month.
Coming in and being like “look at me! I’m so great”. Isn’t really a solution, and certainly not in the near term.
Yes, more people should be directed toward the trades. But it’s hilarious to think it’s a panacea and anything other than him just bragging about himself.
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dontcryWOLF884 days ago
+3
You're right. That comment was not in good taste.
I didnt mean it as it sounds....I just feel sometimes people are looking for jobs in the wrong industries, and need to consider that not all industries are having the same issues.
The trades can be a bit tricky to break into; however, once you get your foot in the door, and make some connections, there are a lot of options for you. There's a reason the government is spending a lot of money to get more people into the trades. There's just not enough of us to replace those retiring.
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Quarterpinte4 days ago
+2
What was the pay and work life balance for these jobs? There are always factories hiring, but you will get paid poverty wages and have no life.
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Impossible_Rip4184 days ago
+1
Ahh the old trade of “programmer”
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Alone-Bug43284 days ago
-41
What did our Prodigal Leader say awhile back ? Employment is up? Hmm.
Affordability is the best it's ever been ?
... Boy oh boy. Where are all the Carney supporters now? Hiding and not posting here ?
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LilLebowskiAchiever4 days ago
+11
No, this is the global stagflation rolling through. I frankly suspect US unemployment is even higher than 6.9%, we are just no longer getting accurate unemployment numbers. Plus a lot of people shifted from layoffs to the gig economy in the US, so that is masking a lot of unemployment with underemployment.
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temporary-account-4 days ago
-3
It’s not… you’re living in a bubble if you genuinely believe this. Do you not… know people?
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LilLebowskiAchiever3 days ago
Have you looked at the employment subs? Millions of people laid off in the past 3 years, and it’s accelerating.
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temporary-account-2 days ago
+1
Genuinely the dictionary definition of case studies. The sub is just getting more and more popular as time goes on… and btw, if you think everyone who becomes unemployed on that sub stays unemployed forever, you’re wrong…
Please, people on a social media page (Listnook) like to get clicks (upvotes). This is an abhorrent way to gauge American unemployment levels.
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Internal-Yak62604 days ago
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It's what canadians voted for so who knows if canadians really care at all.?
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ScaryPillow4 days ago
Canadians are not dumb, we know what we are doing.
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United-Apartment-2692 days ago
I'm so unemployed I'm going to hair school to start my own unionised workers co-op hair salon, which admittedly is going to get my flack in the city because business owners hate workers rights. Its horrible in Canada.
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Varjek4 days ago
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But isn’t Carney a UK central banker with grand designs of reworking the entire Canadian economy by cozying up to China rather than the US because he doesn’t like one US president with only a couple years left in his term? Why isn’t it working out?
It’s time to reconsider the wisdom of those moves because it’ll get much more painful over the 10 years it’ll take to make that transition. Carney and his banker buddies will all make a fortune in the process though.
Probably also time to consider limiting immigration to alleviate the surplus labor problem.
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Spirited-Car86614 days ago
+5
The war in Iran's effect on oil prices might have wiped out any potential economic growth. There's only so many levers Carney can pull and none of them are labelled "magic more oil into existence"
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gdex4 days ago
+3
We have the largest oil reserves in the western world he could absolutely fast track some programs to be pulling way more of it out of the ground and actually refine it up here. If anything all the Iran shit should be working to our advantage but he’s sitting on his hands, what are you talking about?
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StayPositivePlease3 days ago
+3
A new pipeline expansion was approved like 2 weeks ago.
More will come.
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gdex3 days ago
Yeah I’ll believe when they break ground
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ridicone3 days ago
-1
Moving pipe like you can't even believe ATM... fyi
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intoned4 days ago
-11
Carney is a Canadian banker who took a job in UK for a bit.
His economic plan is selling bad Canadian housing and other assorted debt to China to save his %1 banking friends.
Plus the usual Reagan like corporate welfare. He crows then the GDP goes up but says nothing at the job numbers.
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Varjek4 days ago
-14
I largely agree with you, but I would quibble with your characterization of him being a Canadian banker who was just in the UK for a bit. Dude spent almost 15 years living outside of Canada which is no small thing. And in his first year as PM, 1/5 of his time has been outside of Canada.
Makes one wonder who he thinks he actually works for.
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ScaryPillow4 days ago
-2
It's still a good strategy to grt leverage, and Carney isn't wealthy. That's an unjustified attack on his character, especially when I don't see you criticizing Trump. Also, immigration is important. Canada is multicultural and we will always accept people who want to come to work hard for a better life.
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Varjek3 days ago
+2
So to be qualified to criticize any politician one must first criticize Trump? That’s the definition of what the MAGA refer to as Trump Derangement Syndrome!
There are a host of things to criticize Trump about… but this post and my comment weren’t about him, were they? But since you bring him up, Trump is a lame duck this whole term and is nearing the mid-point of that term. So making decisions for Canada’s long term based on a short-term US President is foolhardy at best. Trump will be in the rear view mirror for years before Canada recovers from the short-term ‘stick-it-to-Trump’ trade deals with China MIGHT pay off.
Carney is catering to his central banker friends around the world and playing for them… not for Canadians. Check out his speech in Davos. Pretty clear and convincing.
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ScaryPillow3 days ago
Which part of his speech did you take offense with policy-wise? Also, so what he used some big words and difficult concepts. Why does that make him 'for the bankers' and not for Canadians?
The trade deals need not be long-term, they can be shredded if needed. And, like I said, in the meantime are good leverage.
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Varjek3 days ago
+2
Ha! Sad to hear you were so confused by the “big words and difficult concepts.”
Keep on learning and one day you’ll understand. Hopefully it isn’t too late by then.
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ScaryPillow3 days ago
+1
What part of the speech did you disagree with?
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RickThiccems3 days ago
-2
7% seems extremely bad but honestly I assume the us is around the same if not for them fudging job numbers constantly.
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Snigglybear4 days ago
-38
Canada and Europe are going down the drain. The U.S. is still doing okay for the time being.
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