Canada will not let US dictate terms of USMCA review, says Carney

Trump saying our current trade deal with Canada is terrible when it's HIS deal.

What is the point of reviewing the USMCA when we all know Trump's words and signature are not worth the sharpie he uses to sign it. In a few months, he'll come back and say that we (Canada) ripped him off, even though not only did he sign the revision BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO NEGOTIATE THE FIRST USMCA BECAUSE HE DID NOT LIKE THE NAFTA. What a senile stupid narcissistic pedophile grifter...

It would be pretty silly to make concessions to get a deal after they pissed all over the previous deal that they signed with us. Trump's signature isn't really worth anything at this point. Canada should just deal with issues one by one as they come up and keep shifting trade towards other partners.

Why Canadians have a negative view of the US now: * The US has threatened to annex us * The US is waging economic war aginst us * There is a movement in Alberta (a province in Canada) to separate from Canada. Those separarists met with people from the Trump administration * Ths US has threatened to invade Greenland, a NATO territory, through Denmark

I have seen, across a number of subs in the last few days after Carney’s Sunday speech, some people (Americans? Maple MAGAtes?), seemingly gleefully cheering about how the “US will hammer Canada”. I find it strange how some people seem to derive such joy and glee from such things; meh, it is what it is. Anyway, Canada would certainly be hammered into a recession for the succeeding 5 years as we shift our logistics infrastructure from a north-south orientation to an east-west orientation. This would be in parallel with the already started re-industrialization of our security and defence sectors (shipbuilding, ammunition, aerospace, satellites, etc.). Regardless, those five years would be very, very ugly for Canada. However, despite what Trump says, the US actually does need a lot of what Canada has. Luckily, so does the rest of the world, both now and definitely into the future. -Water. -Uranium. -Potash. -Critical minerals and rare earths elements (Lithium, Graphite, Cobalt, Nickel, etc.). These are going to be huge with the recent discoveries in Saskatchewan, Manitoba and the just-started development of the Northern ring of fire. -60%-62% of the US’s oil imports (4 mb/d). This has increased since the last data set I have (late 2025). -10% of the US’s NG Imports, although higher by certain regions due to infrastructure. And once Canada has solidified its shift to the aforementioned east-west (and north) orientation, then the diversification takes on a momentum of its own. Fascinating data point: Canada has, in the last 14 months, already diversified its economic dependency on the US from almost 76% exports to now at 64% exports as Canada shifts to a more diverse economy and export model. 12% in almost 15 months, even before the nation-building projects start up (first one at the Port of Montreal has started). StatsCan & GAC have immensely comprehensive and objectively factual data sets in this kind of stuff. None of the above is intended to be “crowing”, simply context. Yes, the US can / would brutally hurt Canada over the next 3-5 years as Canada diversifies and builds its infrastructure. That would suck. Not much that we can do about the US becoming an adversary of Canada in its attempts to economically subjugate us. Endure the attacks, continue to diversify and never, ever allow ourselves to be in such a strategically vulnerable position again. The irony is that if Trump had come to Canada in January 2025 with the aim of more closely integrating the two countries economically as well as in terms of defence and security, we would have probably done so. Instead, here we are, becoming active adversaries if not outright hostile to each other. Interesting times.

The US already violated the last USMCA agreement. What's even the point of negotiating a new one any time soon. May as well wait til they get their shit figured out first.

Trump will renege on the deal immediately…why make a deal?

A bunch of people in this topic are missing that this literally isn't a renegotiation or renewal, this is a review. There's nothing to negotiate on the agenda. By default the existing agreement has a 16 year duration and will expire in 2036. The 2026 meeting is a very preliminary talk to discuss whether it'll be allowed to expire in 2036 or whether it'll be amended. Changes for the 2020-2036 agreement are not a part of this and there is no leverage or mechanism to make any changes. The US can show up and demand this change or that but it's literally not on the agenda for this meeting, this meeting is about 2036.

Continue to have great success in reaching out to the rest of the world and building up Canada Or Submit to a bunch of additional stupid demands from the US and work on keeping the dependency on an untrustworthy belligerent nation.. I'm glad we're branching out.  America should honor the deal it created only a few years ago and consider getting something out of this year. Otherwise, America's only achivements for 2026 will just be being starting an illegal war, losing a ton of allies and money, and looking like a failing institution.

As usual, americans will whine that our trade situation is unfair to them and they will try to push even more concessions on us while giving nothing in return.

It's hard to believe that in just over one year, the collective West went from trying to appease the Orange buffoon to not giving a shit anymore about what he says and what he does. You can only try for so long to convince Donny not to c*** into the same sandbox that everyone plays in, but after a few attempts, the other kids just turn away from the lunatic and let him play by himself in the corner, crying his eyes out and stomping his feet and punching against the sand with his tiny hands and insisting he’s the smartest, the most important, the best, the best, the best… But no one really gives a shit anymore about Donny. The other kids build their own sandbox, have their own parties, forge new friendships from which Donny is excluded playing alone with his toys in his great big empty mansion.

Carney is a f****** stud

Trump's asking price to start negotiations: four 13 year old girls.

Why would anyone make a deal with us when Trump doesn’t honor existing deals? The trust is gone and countries realize that appeasing him doesn’t work.

Good for you Canada, standing up to the shitty yanks ruining this planet. Kind regards A Brit

I'm waiting for the headline: Dateline: January 21st, 2028. "Canadian Government declares former President Donald Trump, persona non grata. Trump now barred from Canada."

Don’t worry there are Canadians who have no idea how trade works and are out there blaming Carney despite the fact that US is doing this to every ally

It's a review, not a negotiation

Good, obviously. Adults talking.

Canada will just wait the dipshit out and talk to an adult in 3 years.

Us Canadians are some of the friendliest people…. Imagine pissing us off, you must be really bad lol

Interesting how carney is making the US leadership look weak and panicked - he's pushing back where they thought he'd cave

The writing is on the wall. The only way to break from the USA is to make the break. This is when it happens. We elected Carney for this reason. To guide us through the break. It won’t be painless but our kids will thank us. Do not bend the knee. 🇨🇦

It's mind boggling hypocrisy. They want Canada to stop "Canada first provisioning" whilst the US government does it. And multiple states. And they want us to force provinces (like Ontario) to allow US alcohol.

Brit here. Canada has a friend in us, let's get rid of this tyrant together

ok but why is he doing the macarena

Is there even any point in trying to negotiate USMCA when Trump can just unilaterally tear it up with no consequences?

Good for Canada. As an American I've encountered far too many Canadian MAGA people.

It is incredibly unbelievable that anyone would make a deal with Trump. This has been the M.O. of his life. A deal with Trump is an imaginary idea that you have to be a fool to believe in.

Americans have no honour.

Trump is the worst deal maker in history. Everything he does is shit on old agreements, blow it up, then when it’s all done, gets basically the same deal. Only kinda worse and he says he wins and everyone believes him.

Carney has been a significant inmprovement from Trudeau. I like this guy.

Trump is a notorious bad faith negotiator. No one should deal with him.

Were good no booze no travel no deal until America wakes up and removes the orange elephant regime

Carney immediately recognizing what was going on and going on the offensive has been a blessing. Usually it takes politicians 10 years to catch on