“A lot of countries rushed into deals with the US. They weren’t really worth the paper they were written on,” Carney told.
Damn he is dropping truth bombs left and right !
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cinnyc17 hr ago
+44
He’s a boss. Best man for the job at this time. I’m so happy he’s my prime minister.
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hhaattrriicckk21 hr ago
+512
I wish the rest of the g7 would follow Canada's lead when dealing with this psychotic man child.
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Patsanon121220 hr ago
+200
Other G7 countries have way worse leverage, sadly. They're all exporting primarily finished goods. It's a lot harder to leverage handbags and machinery than it is to leverage oil, softwood lumber, natural gas, cheaper steel and aluminum, potash, and rare earth minerals.
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sleepingmime16 hr ago
+32
Stop importing luxury goods from Europe and watch the rich go insane.
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Black_Moons15 hr ago
+16
TBF, it doesn't really matter what they cost, the rich know nothing comparable is made in the USA and will buy them at any price.
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Sweet-Competition-1514 hr ago
+2
The visually wealthy, perhaps. The truly wealthy shall have no difficulty acquiring all the finery they desire, irregardless of tariffs or other speed-bumps.
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Dashyguurl10 hr ago
+1
The largest driver of consumer spending in the US right now is the millions of new multi millionaires they’ve minted over the past decade. Luxury everything has exploded since Covid , I don’t think even Americans themselves understand how insanely wealthy they are
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MercantileReptile8 hr ago
+1
If they understood, torches and pitchforks would find a modern equivalent in a hurry.
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+47
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ThePickleConnoisseur20 hr ago
+18
The companies would never do that. They’d lose out on too much money
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Patsanon121220 hr ago
+4
What makes you say that and why would it be true to negotiators?
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+24
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itsamurdermarge20 hr ago
+10
They’re very shortsighted. In 2008 when gas was over 4 bucks the vehicle changeover was insane only to rollover neg equity to buy back the new version of the car they just traded in. The same people who buy cars at monthly payments vs knowing the true value of their vehicle. Take away their convenience and illusion of wealth (designer hand bags) and you’ll see the shift.
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ThunderChaser18 hr ago
+8
Yeah it was funny during the opening stages of this trade war I got a right wing American influencer’s video recommended to me for some reason where she was at a grocery store saying “I don’t see anything from Canada, what do we buy from Canada?”
Meanwhile right behind her were cases of pop. The fertilizer used to grow the corn to make corn syrup? Canadian potash. The aluminum used to make the cans? Manufactured in Quebec. The wood pulp used to make the cardboard box? Came from Canadian forests and sawmills. The fuel for the truck that carried it to the store? More likely than not Albertan crude oil.
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Kenevin19 hr ago
+7
To add; just look at how people reacted to empty-shelves at the beginning of Covid.
Americans H.A.T.E empty shelves. They'll pay more for something they want, but they can't stand the thought of it being unavailable to them.
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h3rpad3rp17 hr ago
+2
It would never happen, but depending on the country fulling pulling their consumer goods would be insane. Imagine you went to Walmart and everything they sell that is made in china just isn't on the shelf. People would lose their f****** minds.
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DemosthenesOrNah19 hr ago
+2
these are the people who were outraged and confused why bread was costing more, without connecting the dots that the land war in ukraine was disrupting the grain exports and..
the avg american cant connect the dots
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Patsanon121218 hr ago
+2
We don't negotiate trade deals with the average American.
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Skate4Xeno8 hr ago
+1
America is our only neighbor (excluding fights over the North Pole).
The rest of the world has the rest of the world to trade with. If we can pivot, so can they.
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JamesTheJerk20 hr ago
+64
Canada and Carney are in a better position to play hardball than all other countries with the possible exception of Mexico. The economies of the US and Canada are so intertwined (due to geographic country boundaries) that mucking about too much has immediate consequences on both sides of the border.
People don't have much time to adapt to 'immediate consequences'.
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tetrasodium18 hr ago
-61
Canada is on the verge of hardballing their own tool and die industry out of the country. There was tesrimota couple days ago. Mexico however seems to be making progress on actually establishing a trade deal
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turtle-berry18 hr ago
+49
Canada’s basically accepted that Trump has no interest in ever negotiating in good faith and that any “deal” would not be worth the paper it’s written on, anyway.
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drailCA14 hr ago
+15
Lol. As if anything Trump says is worth its weight in human shit.
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Sweet-Competition-1514 hr ago
+6
'tesrimota'?
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JamesTheJerk18 hr ago
-10
I'm dorry bunt I donair what you're spleaking abroute.
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FuzzyLaughTwo20 hr ago
+46
I will gladly sacrifice almost anything to hurt/punish/stop that freaking monster.
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ImaginationSea276719 hr ago
+32
He went after Venezuela 4 months ago, has fucked over the worlds oil supply by invading Iran and is planning to go after Cuba already.
The guy is more of a insane monster then people think. I see constantly everytime hes does something bad or evil, people undermine the evil, insane and awful things he and all the people around him are doing by just pinning it as a distraction from the Epstein files.
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Maxamillion-X7218 hr ago
+8
He had to be forcefully restrained from accessing the nuclear codes recently because he wanted to launch against Iran.
It was barely mentioned in the news only to be quickly forgotten when the next crazy thing happened. It should have been a bigger deal, because it's absolutely batshit insane. The man is hell bent on destroying the world in order to boost his ego and profits.
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Sweet-Competition-1514 hr ago
+2
And he seems to be doing a fine job of it, so far.
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ImaginationSea276716 hr ago
+3
Even if it the news did make it a bigger deal, from what I have seen online people would still dismiss and bury it under the rug and say "wow he taco's again!"
Trump (and all the major people around him) are insane.
He is f****** crazy, unstable, heavily ego driven and insane. But, people still seem to refuse to admit it. Which I dont think helps the poltical climate in America. It makes Trump seem stable to the American voter and gives fox news and other more room to hide from the trurth.
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Desperate_Nothing15217 hr ago
*Americans
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FrogMasterOfficial21 hr ago
+22
They'll catch up eventually. We have an advantage because we're so culturally close we know how to deal with these nerds right away.
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Patsanon121220 hr ago
+38
No. Our advantage is that our raw materials and natural resources are much better leverage manufactured goods.
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indigo-alien20 hr ago
+4
We could still do a much better job than we do, at producing value-added finished goods.
I believe it was China who insisted on only buying logs and doing the mill work on board ship while sailing back to China. That mill work should be done by Canadians, and then at least ship the 2x4's.
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RarelyReadReplies21 hr ago
+64
I mean, if Carney hadn't saved us from the Conservatives taking office, we would be having a very different discussion. Poilievre would have been a disaster. As opposed to Carney, who seems to be the perfect man for the times we are currently in.
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Charybdis15020 hr ago
+15
Ironically, wasn’t it Trump that saved you guys from the Conservatives?
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CanadaisCold720 hr ago
+26
On the one hand, yes, we voted in the Liberals because we saw Trump get elected and he immediately started the 51st state bullshit. On the other hand, if Trump wasn’t in office the first time, our Conservative Party wouldn’t have gone off the rails to the right, and Mark Carney or someone with similar political leanings would have been the Conservative Party leader. So in the end, all roads lead to Carney.
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Rusteeshaqlford20 hr ago
+20
Canadians remember when Carney was the Governor of the Bank of Canada and the conservative rhetoric about lowering interest rates as well as loosening financial restrictions. Carney’s refusal to allow gov’t overreach is what lead Canada through the 2008 financial crisis. We maintained or AAA credit rating and came out of the crisis financially stronger than any western democracy. Trump is a hated for being a b**** but I do believe that you underestimate how useless, willfully negligent, and slimy Pierre Poilievre actually is.
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Joe_Jobs_16 hr ago
+4
If PP took office he would have provided Trump the boat to float Canada down the Mississippi.
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citizen_of_europa15 hr ago
+1
So, I think Carney is probably one of the finest economists alive today. But we were saved from the 2008 financial crisis because Brian Mulroney placed stringent capital requirements on Canadian banks (requiring banks to keep a much higher percentage of the capital they lend out). Bush gutted similar requirements in the US which is what led to the asset-backed commercial paper products (sub-prime mortgages) consequences. Look very carefully at Carney when anyone asks him about it — he is very careful not to take credit for that.
All Canada’s banks were in the same scheme for as much as they were legally allowed to be — they lost hundreds of millions each. But they didn’t collapse because of their capital allocation.
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Tiernoch9 hr ago
+1
I'll note that it was honestly blind luck for Harper that his attempts to remove those banking regulations didn't progress far enough before the crisis hit.
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HouseofMarg18 hr ago
+7
Trump’s anti-Canada tirades (at least the 51st state variety ones) happened around the same time that Trudeau finally gave in to pressure from his party and the public to step down as PM.
The biggest shift in support for the Liberals happened immediately after Carney won the leadership race that followed. Trump definitely helped as a right-wing cautionary tale to avoid, but the leadership change was IMO a bigger factor as Carney is well-respected across party lines
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turtle-berry18 hr ago
+7
Ehhh, yes, but only indirectly. Had Poilievre at *any* point woken up to read the room and responded with appropriate leadership to the U.S.’s threats, he would have coasted to the victory he was convinced was already in the bag. So, major credit to him. But I’ll always give the most credit to Canadian voters for putting country ahead of party. A lot of solidly left as well as solidly right voters were extremely not-thrilled about voting for the Liberals, but recognized the best option ahead of them at that moment.
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Joe_Jobs_17 hr ago
Ironic to be sure. Like a "How not to..." manual.
It was Canadians that saved themselves from the Can Cons. Trump only demonstrated an example of how badly a country could be run.
The irony is definitely real. Even former PM Jean Chretien suggested that Trump should be considered for nomination to the Order of Canada, for uniting Canadians like none other before.
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Youah0e14 hr ago
No, the economy was already an election long before Trump so Carney would have won any way. Trump was the final nail in the coffin for Conservatives.
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FrogMasterOfficial21 hr ago
+14
Absolutely. That dog walking would have been embarrassing to watch.
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OCDCantCatchMe17 hr ago
+2
And we have a lot to lose, compared to many of you (not all).
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SmartQuokka19 hr ago
+82
Carney has a backbone, this makes me very happy.
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redloin17 hr ago
+21
To add to that, he's probably the smartest person in any room that he's in which helps. I get the sense he's thought 10 steps ahead of anyone he's dealing with.
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SmartQuokka17 hr ago
-5
I would not go that far.
Though if you speak of being in a room with Poilievre and his conservative minions then i agree.
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Gunner2217 hr ago
+30
Yet conservatives will mock "ElboWS Up" as if that isn't exactly what he's been doing
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SmartQuokka17 hr ago
+17
They want hate, lies and a scapegoat.
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-Yazilliclick-13 hr ago
+3
They mock everything, they'll say anything, and then they'll contradict themselves when challenged. Clearly the facts don't matter with what seems like the majority of them online.
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Misfiring13 hr ago
+1
Let's be real, 85% of their exports are tariff free due to USMCA. US tariffs against Canada are against goods outside the deal. It's much easier for Canada to ignore the tariff compare to Europe or others.
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cdnirene11 hr ago
+4
Not true. Trump has levied huge tariffs on Canadian steel, aluminum, copper, cars and car parts which should be tariff free under the CUSMA deal he negotiated in his first term. The deal had been ratified by Congress.
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war_story_guy19 hr ago
+46
Carney has been the right person at the right moment and it is such a breath of fresh air in the current geopolitical climate.
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wartopuk18 hr ago
+17
Don't even talk. Just tell them we'll see them in 3 years if they come to their senses. There is no point in making a deal with someone who will just tear it up on a whim.
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Silent-Obligation-4919 hr ago
+50
The US has fucked over every country and proven they can’t be trusted. So countries are being smart and making trade deals with other countries.
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chabawonka19 hr ago
+16
Not every country. Not Israel and Saudi Arabia. In fact that they've been quite friendly to the criminal governments running both of those countries.
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ElPuppyNation21 hr ago
+112
Trump is a pedophile. Pass the word.
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Castrol-5w3021 hr ago
+32
Hey, he said he was not a pedophile in answer to a different question in yesterday's interview.
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crackrabbit01221 hr ago
+13
Man that guy should work in theaters. He's one hell of a projectionist.
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DangerBay201521 hr ago
+10
Theatre wouldn't last because he'd only play the same shit over and over again.
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andy1112319 hr ago
Welp, case closed then. He wouldn't lie
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Trytek198618 hr ago
+1
Trump is a pedofile. Purple monkey dishwasher.
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SigmaHouse2817 hr ago
+9
Every country that rush to make a deal with Trump look like fools now.
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T0Papi21 hr ago
+29
We need to stand I wish other countries would do the same. I am proud he is standing his ground.
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punkasstubabitch18 hr ago
+9
Stand up to Trump. He’s a bully and he will be scared. His brain is mashed potatoes. Look how much Iran owned his ass.
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Red_River_Metis21 hr ago
+22
Good. F*** Trump
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PolloConTeriyaki21 hr ago
+17
Carney from the top rope!
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Happinessisawrmgun21 hr ago
+1
Watchoutwatchoutwatchout
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imjustsurfin21 hr ago
+12
Go Carney!!!
Give the temper tantrum-throwing tangerine toddler, and ADJUDICATED RAPIST, the middle finger!
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HolidayEntire645615 hr ago
+1
The only way to win is to not deal with the orange turd at all.
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Sweet-Competition-1514 hr ago
[Trump] certainly respects strength, and lots of people like to be flattered, but he can see through obsequiousness, *(Quote)*
That's truly debatable, and I'm guessing that the PM is buttering donnie's bread a bit for him. *Even if he could* see through shallow flattery, donnie would still use it to feed his ego, and for bragging rights.
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LePouletPourpre21 hr ago
-92
Uh oh. Here it comes. Brace yourselves!
"As a Canadian, I am never going to the US again!"
"Good! I am so proud of Carney!"
"We need to join the EU!"
"I was going to go to Disneyworld this year, but instead we are going to Sweden!"
"I never buy anything American anymore!"
"We need to build a trans-pacific pipeline from Vancouver to Sydney!"
"We got silver in the Olympics on purpose! Gold reminds us of Trump!"
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Apprehensive-Care20z21 hr ago
+40
every one of those is AWESOME!
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moosemanwich20 hr ago
+21
Hell ya. Props to you having them saved for easy copy paste.
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Moist-Ninja-633820 hr ago
-42
Tiring isn’t it
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DontJudgeMeMonkey19 hr ago
-6
[Meeting No. 33 INDU - Standing Committee on Industry and Technology](https://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Harmony/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20260420/-1/44817#info_)
Regardless of political alignment I think it's important to hear what the people closest to the consequences think.
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GoalNo321415 hr ago
-9
About to get laid off at work so I hope this elbows up genius you all support has an actual plan
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Moist-Ninja-633820 hr ago
-64
Carney talks hyperbole and out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. What a load of BS. Yes Mark, the US is the problem and Canada is the pragmatic side with all the solutions. Give me a break.
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+25
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Mushroom_Tip15 hr ago
+5
I mean, isn't he 100% right? Trump negotiated the replacement for NAFTA and said it was the best deal ever made.
But now the US is being ripped off and the entire thing needs to be renegotiated?
Maybe the solution is to send the orange pedophile into a nursing home and get someone competent to address the issue. Because if Trump was responsible for such a bad trade agreement then he isn't competent to do this one either.
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snahp88820 hr ago
-99
Canada broke the USMCA agreement.
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LifeGainsss20 hr ago
+56
How exactly? Be specific
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Juliuscesear199020 hr ago
+44
They won't have an answer because their knowledge on the topic is not even surface level but they heard it on Fox News and didn't look into any further.
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hallerz8720 hr ago
-6
Dairy back in 2022. They failed to mention that the US broke the USMCA regarding solar panels that same year.
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snahp88820 hr ago
-64
A simple Google will answer you.
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Nintenuendo_20 hr ago
+41
So..... you don't know? Or is it because fox news only gave you 1/8th of the story, written in a way that skews the reality of the situation?
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quixotik20 hr ago
+19
What? Because of retaliatory tariffs? RETALIATORY… HMMM who broke what now?
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biscuitarse20 hr ago
+22
You're only googling the 2022 decision that favoured the US on their complaints about our dairy industry. You need to google the final resolution of the dispute from 2023. There's a twist you may not enjoy seeing.
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