Canada's Carney on verge of majority government after another opposition member joins ruling Liberals

The problem with the leadership review is that it was done in Alberta at a time when they knew Ontario conservatives would be too busy to attend and unable to cast their votes.

It was a sham. I think it was 2500 people -ish total, and he won with 87%. According to Wikipedia, 678,708 members in the CPC. To attend, it was $1000 and pay your own travel costs.

Cons in Canada will never get a majority going that far right. Canada for the most of its history is either left or centre. Going far right is completely out of the question I think for most Canadians. Old school Cons might just continue voting Liberal if the Cons just try nothing and are out of ideas.

And it’s funny that these far right conservatives consider the moderates to be far left.

But the odd thing is that this lady is a social conservative by Canadian standards.

All of this just screams desperation from all these conservatives in different countries trying to cling onto whatever flavor of "maga" in their country and just reeks of lack of imagination on how to actually properly reinvent themselves following the disastrous 2nd Trump term.

Ya that’s the crazy part. The guys horny for pollievre are mostly repulsive racist homophobic bigots. I don’t think pollievre is necessarily that or would govern like that but he would be forced to answer to that base. In another world health crisis Hed be forced to answer to that base. In another American war escalation Hed be forced to answer to that base. For these reasons I can’t see any path to him forming government.

Got any examples of going too far right?

Their Leadership review had capped participation and cost $1000 to attend, so... it was pretty stage managed.  

It's also funny that Poilievre of all people was the dude the conservative party chose to stick with again after losing an election (in spectacular fashion too) when they didn't do the same with Scheer or O'Toole following their losses in the elections in 2019 and 2021, immediately dropping them. Especially O'Toole who iirc was considered a pretty moderate conservative and probably would've done well (at least much better than Poilievre) last election of they kept him on, as long as he positioned himself against Trump instead of cozying up with him and that brand of politics.

That's the thing, is if anti vax doesn't want to stay at the party, what the hell else are they doing? 

As someone from her riding. She is more than an anti-vaxxer. She is also a goofy religious nut who has voted to keep conversion therapy legal and has been pro-Donald Trump for the last 10 years. My Mom texted me about this yesterday and I thought she was falling for an April fools joke a little late. Honestly, I'm disappointed that the Liberals would have accepted her crossing the floor. Any common sense Liberal should be upset by this.

Are we talking about wrestling, or good government? It's not a f****** game.

It’s more complicated. Trudeau got elected in 2013 based on a platform of expanding government services and spending more after years of government austerity under the CPC Harper government following the 2008 financial crisis. As with any leader Trudeau started to become more unpopular. The CPC would have probably won in 2021, but they lost enough votes to a further right party (the PPC) that the Liberals were able to follow a coalition majority government with the NDP. During this time the CPC elected Polievre as their leader, and he went all in on the culture war and being anti-Trudeau. There were a lot of slogans. It worked to keep the PPC from siphoning off their votes. However, following Trump’s election and subsequent tariff/talk of taking Canada and voters seeing Polievre as being too cozy with Americans Carney was able to gain a minority government and Polievre lost his own parliamentary seat. Since then Carney has done a great job on the global stage and has bern gaining in popularity at the expense of the CPC. It’s not just that Carney is a breath of fresh air, but that Polievre has shown himself to be an empty vessel. He was re-elected as leader of the party, but IMO he was really the only option. The CPC are now stuck in a tough place as the Liberals are taking their voters that held their nose for the social policies while voting based on the economy platform. If they elect a moderate leader like they had before with Andrew Scheer (Conservative leader during 2021) the maple MAGA people will move back to the PPC; effectively fracturing the Conservative Party and reverting them back to being two fractured parties of social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. However, Polievre is also apparently a complete a****** and pushing away his own party members; who have been jumping over to the Liberals. Carney will gain a majority government within the next week after the 3 by-elections and I expect we will see a fracturing of the CPC as the Liberals no longer need new parliamentary mebers but people want to get away from Polievre’s leadership.

He's not a typical bleeding heart liberal. He's really a posterchild for what Canadian conservatives are supposed to be. Or as I like to say, I want a conservative prime minister even if I have to vote liberal to get it. Plus, the conservatives aren't going right, they're going socon. And a lot of Canadians who lean conservative are not socons.

Yes, very much so. While the Trump factor did have a colossal impact on Carney being elected, and he would not have been elected without Mango Man, I think Carney would have been elected eventually. He is very much what the average Canadian prefers in a politician - pragmatic, socially progressive, and, time will tell for sure, fiscally conservative. We like our politicians to stay out of the spotlight and get to work.

I am Canadian. I voted for Trudeau back in the day but soon realized it was all gloss. I do like Carney so far. I feel he is making hard but needed decisions and genuinely looking to build Canada for the future.

That's exactly it. The previous leader, Justin Trudeau wasn't a great leader, so they learned from their mistakes. The CPC didn't learn anything

He is the Oprah for sad insecure men.

If she waits it out until the next election, her pension is secured^^ this ensures a potential LPC majority and guarantees her a tasty pension

Bro just how bad is PP's leadership that he's caused this much turmoil within his own party in like just a year? 💀

This comment is so underrated.  It is obvious Carney will go a long way and do whatever it takes if it means 4 years of majority. 

It's not even a political alignment issue, really. It's more that Gladu brings some serious skeletons, risks needless controversy if she pulls any similar stunts while on their side of the aisle, and her very willingness to join them comes across as suspicious.

So basically "f*** this I quit and im going over to the competition!"

still can't believe that's real. the EX-CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA DATING POP STAR LEGEND KATY PERRY. that's some tomodachi life stuff right there

Summary: if the result of an election is changed soon after an election, it's ok cuz you have another election 5 years later. It's a feature!

This is definitely a big part of Carney's appeal especially in this current political environment and why he won the last election (with assist from PP's good buddy Trump). People are just severely culture war fatigued

I agree. The momentum was absolutely with the conservatives. It was a shocking fumble given how much the country was tired of the Liberals under Trudeau. 

Yep. Nailed it. Harper was a smart and savvy politician (not saying I like him. I don't). The only time the CPC won was under him. We're pretty centrist as a country. Stay out of the culture wars, and leave people alone and you're fine. The CPC doesn't understand that.

She probably would if all candidates had been independent. They just have to put the "conservative party" logo under her name to help the people who don't understand the electoral system. It's too much of a hassle apparently for the average voter to spend a cupple minutes looking up who there candidates are and what views they have on topics. If you don't trust the MP to not walk to the other side then perhaps the voters should not have voted for them. Or more accurately perhaps the conservative party should not have endorsed there position in that riding. There are party politics people can engage in that decide these things. If you want to make a change get involved.

you only proved the guy’s point lmfao

Yes this is very true but even the American system was envisioned this way. That is why they have the electoral college. I think the system has broken with our lack of strong community and the growth of news and instant communication. This allows national leaders to communicate with us and we never meet our local leaders.