It’s always projection - the admin screaming about free speech elsewhere just wants to distract from their own efforts to curtail it
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Fit-Let8175May 6, 2026
+140
Remember that Nazi Germany also had free speech provided that the speech was in praise and favor of Hitler and the Nazi party.
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fredbubblesMay 6, 2026
+54
They want the freedom to lie to us and not be called out on it. They don’t care about your average citizen’s right to free speech.
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tonic613May 6, 2026
+133
DHS will argue:
No full First Amendment rights abroad: John Doe is a Canadian resident/citizen outside the U.S. The government would cite cases saying foreign persons abroad generally lack U.S. constitutional rights.
Administrative summons power is broad: they do not need probable cause for an administrative summons. Under Powell, agencies generally need only a legitimate purpose, relevance, information not already possessed, and procedural compliance.
Not retaliation for speech, but an inquiry under customs/homeland-security authority, and that Google, not Doe, was the summons recipient.
The big challenge for DHS is:
summons reportedly relied on 19 U.S.C. § 1509, a customs-records statute, while Doe lives in Canada, has not entered the U.S. since 2015, and the demand sought broad Google identity, location, activity, etc… That makes the “legitimate purpose” and “relevance” defenses look weak.
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BasicPhysiologyMay 6, 2026
+25
Thank you, that is great insight.
I expect we will later learn that this administration is using the levers of power to identify, and then dox names of their 'enemies' to their white nationalist supporters, in furtherance of stochastic terrorism. Attacking people outside of the US using lawfare, or targeting them online with attacks and disinformation is a likely tactic. Like this DOJ, the DHS has no care about the law.
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BodaciousFerretMay 6, 2026
+11
DHS ain’t winning this unless they find a very sympathetic, very braindead judge. Even if this guy is associated with undeclared cross-border imports, it is the importer who is required to ensure all the customs declarations and fees are handled. His identity won’t help HSI figure that out at all.
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Morat20May 7, 2026
+2
I've got some bad news for you about a specific federal judge in Texas, and the 5th Circuit as an appeals court.
The ones that aren't brain dead just don't believe in federal law or the US Constitution.
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willunMay 7, 2026
+4
>No full First Amendment rights abroad
Though the first amendment makes no mention of limiting it to US citizens.
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luvalteMay 7, 2026
+7
It’s the abroad part here. The Constitution requires the US have jurisdiction, and while the US has jurisdiction of **anyone on US soil** and, in some instances, citizens living abroad—think tax law—it has no jurisdiction on non-citizens outside the US.
So you must be **either** a citizen of or physically present in the US for its laws to apply to you. No, you don’t need both, but a Canadian not in the US has neither.
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OkBuy4754May 6, 2026
+230
Good. People need to push back legally when governments overreach.
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Clearwatercress69May 6, 2026
+74
That pushing back works out quite nicely in the US.
Hint: A convicted felon is still president and is seeking a third term
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RagnarawrMay 6, 2026
+42
He’s also a big rapist, according to the files he’s suppressing.
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James-W-TateMay 6, 2026
+45
Courts have already determined that Donald Trump is a rapist.
The files he's suppressing show he's also a pedophile.
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RagnarawrMay 6, 2026
+4
Yes, of course, this is the president after all, I should have known better.
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ImpulsE69May 6, 2026
+3
Only the best!
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Ok-Grand-1492May 7, 2026
+1
And murderer and/or accessory to murder.
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wickedsmahtMay 7, 2026
+2
Supreme Court shadow docket: “LOL GET FUCKED. Beautiful little trumpty dumpty can do whatever he wants.”
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KimJongFunkMay 6, 2026
+251
If you cut out a man’s tongue, it is only because you fear what he has to say.
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rockmasterflexMay 9, 2026
+1
I mean he could also have had some kind of gangrene infection right?
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lII1lIIl1IIll1Il11lMay 6, 2026
+24
Canada should develop soverign search, citizens data should never be at will to the trump admin
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KittySharkWithAHatMay 6, 2026
+20
As a Canadian and for the record ICE can go f*** themselves and I hope I get the opportunity to tell them in person sometime in the future.
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Fit-Let8175May 6, 2026
+36
So, because of critical social media posts, does US Homeland Security not only plan on searching the Google data of a large population of Canadians, but millions of Americans, too?
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phluidityMay 6, 2026
+19
The idea is to make a very visible example out of a small number of people so everybody else will keep quiet so they avoid playing the shitty day l******.
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im_just_thinkingMay 6, 2026
+9
Idk, hundreds of data centers and increasing disregard for human rights and constitution say otherwise
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BobTheFetttMay 6, 2026
+8
Canadian data laws are super weak too, so most of our data is already in data centres in the US
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Fit-Let8175May 6, 2026
+5
Is the very sensitive/classified data kept in a bathroom at Mar-a-lago?
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BobTheFetttMay 6, 2026
+9
Might as well be
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Ok-Grand-1492May 7, 2026
+3
They've got to find people to put in their "detention centers" somehow.
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Worldly_Anybody_9219May 6, 2026
+51
Friends don't let friends become fascists without speaking up. That's why Canadians are better allies than Israel. :)
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+52
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klaatu7764May 6, 2026
+3
I would think that hate speech and a threat of violence warrants perhaps, depending on the circumstances, a response. Not everybody is so enamored with Americans hang-up on “free speech”.
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the-fillipMay 6, 2026
+9
US law precedent has already shown that hate speech is free speech there, so America has no legal justification for censoring it as far as I can tell. I think we may soon see the government claim that shitting on ICE is hate speech that needs to be censored, but we can't let them get away with that.
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[deleted]May 6, 2026
+2
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klaatu7764May 6, 2026
+1
Look up “fighting words”.
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unfortunatelyhoemoMay 6, 2026
+7
There’s things I wanna say but gotta protect my data.
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versus_gravityMay 6, 2026
+5
I do wonder how many agents now act as Stasi-style minders.
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Aldo_saysMay 7, 2026
+6
>"An American tells a Russian that the United States is a truly free country because he can stand in front of the White House and shout, 'To hell with Ronald Reagan!' The Russian says that is nothing, because he can easily stand in Red Square and shout, 'To hell with Ronald Reagan,' too".
Yakov Smirnoff
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XanchushMay 7, 2026
+4
Man they really want us to start a revolution.
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creggorMay 10, 2026
+1
They kinda do. Easiest way to declare martial law, and suspend elections— that kind of stuff. This timeline sucks.
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firelemonsMay 7, 2026
+6
Reminder that google doesn't protect you or your data and you can do better.
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KirklistentowutangMay 7, 2026
+5
F*** ICE. Trump is a pedophile. JD Vance is a b****.
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azurepandoraMay 6, 2026
+8
United States of NK isn't just a joke at this point.
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DarrenizerMay 6, 2026
+9
Cha Ching. Also in unrelated news homeland security is a bunch of soulless scum bucket ghouls. …..
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mattloreMay 7, 2026
+3
The trump administration
The DHS for America
Infact America itself can all go f*** themselves.
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Ok_Mathematician938May 6, 2026
+2
I kinda read through the article, but couldn't find anything about what this person posted online (they shouldn't have been trying to get his data regardless).
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Addy_RoseMay 8, 2026
+1
So...our laws regarding protection of privacy and such don't apply outside our borders, but "you said mean things and hurt my feelings" does? Wild
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cribsawMay 10, 2026
+1
How do they look at people’s social media posts when they’re trying to enter the country? There’s no way that can be a quick process.
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[deleted]May 6, 2026
+1
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AnOkayMuffinMay 7, 2026
+1
They don't like burner phones, either. They see that as suspicious and worth hassling you over.
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ConceitedWombatMay 7, 2026
+1
I know of at least one Canadian employer that is asking their employees to not take their usual work phone to the US. If they must take a business trip to the US, the instruction is to ask IT for a new burner phone
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mattloreMay 7, 2026
I'd be surprised if they even let you through.
Since it's a road trip, you don't have anything on paper to prove that you're not going to stay.
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