This is good news. It would’ve been even better if they had done it 30 years ago, but better late than never.
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sportow1 day ago
+1185
The best time to plant a tree was thirty years ago. The second best time to plant a tree is today…
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GreninjaSquirtle1 day ago
+271
Would the second best time be 29 years and 364 days ago?
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amicablehummingbird1 day ago
+146
Yeah but the saying loses footing when saying _the 10,956th best day_..
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GreninjaSquirtle1 day ago
+40
Maybe so, but I've got time and an appreciation of a good list.
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queen-adreena1 day ago
+20
Not printed on paper I hope!
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kobemustard1 day ago
+13
what were you using that tree for anyways?
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Viracochina1 day ago
+18
Just to throw shade
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IncoherentPenguin20 hr ago
+8
Oh just leaf it alone now.
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patchyj23 hr ago
+5
1. Have time
2. Get a good list
3. ...
4. Profit?
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Realtrain1 day ago
+3
Hey it's better than waiting for the *10,957th* day!
3
LanceFree1 day ago
+11
‘No man is an island.’
“What does that mean? No man is a woman, either.”
Paraphrase from World According to Garp.
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PraxisLD1 day ago
+5
“What? There’s no mayonnaise in Ireland? What does *that* mean‽”
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meeyeam1 day ago
+7
"Nobody knows. But it's provocative! Gets the people going!"
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T-Rex-Hunter22 hr ago
+3
The idea is that the 30 years is most optimal but the downside is it is in the past, so a less optimal time that also has the limitation of being in past makes it double unuseful as compared to right now, as right now has the advantage of being a point in time you can currently access.
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LSF6041 day ago
+4
also, wouldn't 30 years and a day ago be better than 30 years?
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mvschynd1 day ago
+11
I like this, going to borrow it. I hate when people argue against doing something today that should have been done years ago. What they are saying is true but focusing on what can’t be changed isn’t going to help anything.
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hakenwithbacon1 day ago
+27
We had such a fund in Alberta.
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HeavyTea1 day ago
+38
See Norway for "what it could be"
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mattw081 day ago
+11
This is also not acting like Norway or Alberta’s funds. This is specifically for domestic large scale projects. Norway is primarily investing outside Norway for long term investment gains.
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Stahl_Scharnhorst1 day ago
+39
We still do have the Heritage Fund. But due to decades of mismanagement and pillaging from the Conservative Government the fund if woefully behind where it should be. It's worth somewhere in the ballpark of 30-32 billion CAD. Should be worth at least 5 times, maybe more if it were properly managed and left alone. And we haven't even talked about the royalty rates oil companies actually pay, way too low. But like Australia is owned by mining magnates, we are owned by the oil barons here. And they'll say we're lucky to get what we get.
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ThePlanner1 day ago
+17
5 times is probably wildly underselling the squandered potential. The first operational oil will in Alberta (Leduc #1) was turned on in 1947. Granted, nobody was talking about sovereign national (or subnational) wealth funds back the , but that started the clock on a nearly 80-year provincial resource boom.
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Druncle_Stevie1 day ago
+6
Except AimCo lost it all
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PreacherCoach1 day ago
+7
... Had? I thought it was still there supporting little ralphys train and other projects...
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cbcl1 day ago
+8
Its used more as the "see the budget deficit isnt that bad" fund now i think.
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GRRMsGHOST1 day ago
+5
I see the mentality of the person you responded to so much in community groups.
A city makes an improvement in something that needed improving, then there’s all the people that complain about not doing X, Y, or Z or that they should have done it earlier.
So little people see the big picture and recognize an improvement as an improvement
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IssaScott1 day ago
+27
And there was another cbc article talking about a fertilizer factor that can't get built in Saskatchewan due to lack of funding.
These 2 stories seem made for each other.
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skeetyeeter9621 hr ago
+3
Are people that afraid of investing in Canada that we, as taxpayers, need to borrow money to do it?
Yikes.
3
IssaScott21 hr ago
+7
Fertilizer guy says he only need 50million to get going. Government paperwork is already signed to go ahead.
That's a project without the government involed.
Supposedly government interference is the reason people don't invest in other Canadian projects...
Seem they really just want somebody else to take the risk and be on the hook for failure.
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silicondali1 day ago
+409
Twenty years ago industry was lobbying the Harper government to deconstruct federal oversight and limit the scope of public participation in major projects. Industry has been pissing and moaning and screaming that they can't get anything built, and it's usually the broke ass b**** companies that would never have the liquid cash to bankroll a major project.
It's very cute to hear people saying in this year of our Lord 2026 that Canada should have done something 20 years ago when at that time they were voting for the government to strip us for parts and auction off to the highest bidder.
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wayoverpaid1 day ago
+167
I'm sure there are some people who voted for Harper and are upset that he did what he did.
But it's also very possible to have voted *against* Harper *and* to have spent the last two decades looking wistfully at Norway's SWF and to be happy that we're now, finally, doing something remotely similar.
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ImSuperSerialGuys1 day ago
+61
Many of the people saying we should have done this 20 years ago weren't old enough to vote for it 20 years ago.
Almost like the people saying we should have done it 20 years ago may not the same people who voted against it 20 years ago.
You're telling me that "other people" aren't just a monolith and Im not the main character who knows better than everyone else?!?! SCANDALOUS
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jovin491 day ago
+32
While your point is valid, in my experience, a lot of the people I hear saying things like, "we don't build anything in this country anymore" are precisely the same people who were hellbent on not building anything for the last couple decades because they'd rather have lower taxes.
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silicondali1 day ago
+15
Oh no, they're worse. They're the ones who made their fortunes when you didn't need to follow environmental rules and could just walk away to let the province deal with it. But now they can't fathom seeing windmills from their homes.
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jaymickef1 day ago
+3
And twenty years before that industry was lobbying the Mulroney government to have free trade with the US and be allowed to sell to US companies.
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Electronic-Mix-86381 day ago
+20
This isn't the Norway kind though. This is the national budget without interference or delays at a lower level.
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bobdotcom1 day ago
+18
Yeah, I'd want more details for sure. Where is the funding coming from? Can the federal government start requiring a royalty style investment in the fund as a requirement for project approvals? I think Norway has it right for sure, and want something similar here, so that if we're selling off our resources to private companies, the whole country is getting better for it.
Unfortunately, direct resource royalties are provincial domain, and places like alberta that have a lot of those would rather use it to reduce taxes in the short term instead of invest in the province or the country long term. Not sure how we can work it within the constitution as currently existing to allow for federal investment like Norway.
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remixclashes1 day ago
+7
Something about planting a tree yesterday or whatever.
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jigglesworthy1 day ago
+3
They did 50 years ago but our politicians were spend happy with our resources; Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund was created in 1976, 30% of all revenues went into said fund but over time contributions slowed/stopped.
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dj_fuzzy23 hr ago
+4
This isn't like Norway's sovereign wealth fund. We aren't using resource revenues and putting into a fund. This is something for people to invest into.
4
ptwonline1 day ago
+5
I love the concept but I do worry that over time it will be a fund to enable corruption or else a Conservative PM will come along and sell it all off for tax cuts or because "government is inefficient."
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blankarage21 hr ago
+2
foolish Canadia! The US already has a sovereign wealth fund but for only for billionaires and implemented in the form of massive tax breaks/loopholes! Don’t you know that money trickles down!
/s
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-tpz17 hr ago
+2
It's ironic because Norway's sovereign wealth fund is based off of the Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund
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Flimsy-Ad27011 day ago
+631
Lets follow Norway's strategy in resource extraction.
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CipherWeaver1 day ago
+200
The horse has left the stable on that. Canada operates a very *laissez faire* resource extraction model where foreign investment is welcomed and is not obligated to have government involvement. We presume that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and if foreign companies extract our resources they are employing locals and paying local taxes.
That said, we're no chumps when it comes to resource extraction, and some of the world's largest oil, gas, and mining companies are Canadian. We have the local know-how and skillset.
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Turbulent-Company3731 day ago
+58
Petro-Canada was originally supposed to have been a hedge against this situation.
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DisastrousAcshin22 hr ago
+26
Can't have a crown corporation eating up profits that are more appropriate going to another country
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calebmke1 day ago
+84
I’ve suggested elsewhere that perhaps resources paramount to the national security of a nation shouldn’t be owned by private entities or individuals. Apparently that’s controversial
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Turbulent-Company3731 day ago
+36
Remember the original purpose of Petro-CANADA?
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Infarad22 hr ago
+21
Or the Canadian Wheat Board.
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WadeReddit0622 hr ago
+26
Farmers have lost out on billions of dollars since Harper sold the Wheat Board but those people will still vote conservative forever.
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h0twired23 hr ago
+12
Alberta unironically hates that idea.
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_bombweed21 hr ago
+13
The foreign oil magnates in Alberta hate that idea and sows separatist dissent to ensure there is no nationalized oil strategy
13
Competitive-Bar-930022 hr ago
+10
That idea, that the public could possibly own or operate \*anything\* that they don't currently, has been made heresy to too many people by media. It's crazed that every single thing has to be done privately or with a public-private partnership, and the public workforce can't be scaled up to handle the most important resources. The only resource that doesn't work that way is weaponry, we can somehow trust the government with inter-continental missiles and to run a military, but it would be the end of the world if they extracted petrol? Canadians don't have anything to gain from letting fossil fuel extraction both screw them in the long term with climate change and in the short term when it's taken by private companies and the public only enjoys a tiny tiny fraction of all of that once-public wealth. Canadians have not seen nearly as much wealth as they could if their public resources were better managed.
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MGM-Wonder21 hr ago
+8
The horse has absolutely not left the stable on this issue, and never will imo, because the resources aren't going anywhere. Foreign investment can threaten to leave, but the oil isn't going with with them even if they do. This isn't an intellectual property that can move all operations to another country.
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Key_Ant647320 hr ago
+6
The same moronic shit is happening in Australia, just letting foreign companies gut our resources for "jobs"
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ChrisFromIT1 day ago
+17
>Canada operates a very laissez faire resource extraction model where foreign investment is welcomed and is not obligated to have government involvement.
If I'm not mistaken, Norway's oil and gas is the same way. The only difference is that any oil and gas tax revenue in Norway is sent to their sovereign fund. While in Canada, most of that tax revenue is used in the government budget.
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CipherWeaver1 day ago
+53
All oil and gas extraction in Norway is by private-public partnership. The government of Norway is a major stakeholder in every project, and there's no way for foreign companies to extract Norwegian oil without playing ball. The Norwegian state therefore gets a cut of all the profits. This is very different from how oil exploration operates in Canada.
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Turbulent-Company3731 day ago
+28
Petro-Canada was supposed to have been Canada's national oil company.
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PrimoPasta71 day ago
+26
Shoutout conservatives
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h0twired23 hr ago
+10
The kings of privatization and deregulation while still paying out billions in subsidies to private foreign owned corporations.
We need to do better as a country.
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h0twired23 hr ago
+4
Most revenue is in royalties that go into provincial income streams (mostly Alberta).
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AngryStappler20 hr ago
+3
I work im Mineral resource sector. Canadian expertise is globally recognized. We also do a lot of work outside of Canada. It would be hypocritical for us to fully control our sector while investing and profiting in other countries.
So yea your right, were so far past the point of that being an option.
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CasualFridayBatman21 hr ago
+11
We tried with the National Energy Program in the 70s, and it's the reason Pierre Trudeau is universally hated in the West today.
American companies took out newspaper ads saying it was a bad idea (because they had a vested interest in doing so) and the Western half of the country believed them.
Look at who Norway consulted to create their resource extraction plan. That's right, Alberta's own Peter Lougheed.
Today, as of last week, conservatives are decrying not having a national energy plan, while simultaneously not realizing we used to have one, and they sold off 30% of it the moment they got into power under Mulroney.
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TheSwordDusk21 hr ago
+6
>Today, as of last week, conservatives are decrying not having a national energy plan, while simultaneously not realizing we used to have one, and they sold off 30% of it the moment they got into power under Mulroney.
I wish more Canadians were aware of this. There are concrete reasons Canadian wealth leaves the country. Conservatives sold it off for peanuts
6
CasualFridayBatman19 hr ago
+4
The first 30% was sold off by Mulroney who set the precedent, Liberals under Cretien and Martin sold off the other 70, so I mean yes, but the lion's share was sold off by the liberals.
None of it should've left in the first place though.
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one-happy-chappie1 day ago
+20
Careful with that communism
(Joking, natural resources and other things like, healthcare, should be considered a utility and owned by the citizens)
20
law900261 day ago
+434
Boggles the mind that Canada doesn’t have one tbh.
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MetalMoneky1 day ago
+253
You can probably blame our ridiculous constitutional division of resource income, NAFTA developments that made us sell off our resource crown corps as to why we don't have one. But really almost all natural resource development should be heavily taxed and put into those funds to fund long term growth.
Unfortunately we're letting private investors get most of the gains from these resources.
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Nervous_Recover_61521 day ago
+127
Ironically, it was all the 51st state threats that finally set us on track to not be a colony of the united states
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GriffinFlash1 day ago
+65
now if they can stop trying to take alberta all will be great. So sick of seeing these US funded and backed separatists in my neighbourhood. Some of the dumbest most racist motherf\*ckers around.
Also not just saying that, they're literally full MAGA racists as seen in a news article from someone who attended one of their rallies.
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AgreeAndSubmit1 day ago
+15
That's gross af and I'm sorry it's spilling over. This ideology struggle is alot like kudzu. You have to get out there, trim, dig up, and be on watch for it all the time. It's best if you can pull most of the root system out. Then you have to remediate the damaged forest where you cleared out.
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morfraen1 day ago
+12
It's not just spilling over, it has been for years. The swamp has fully crossed the border and spread the maga infection to our weak minded conservatives.
12
AgreeAndSubmit1 day ago
+5
We all need invasive species help. How utterly tiring it is too.
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bobdotcom1 day ago
+4
Yep, unfortunately resources are exclusively the powers of the provinces. Would love to see some constitutional lawyering that would allow the fed to collect something to invest in a sovereign fund somehow. I like that ostensibly this fund is run by a 3rd party, so hopefully protected from the whims of changing political parties (though I guess that depends, if the next PM can replace whomever runs the thing, it isn't actually protected)
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Electronic-Mix-86381 day ago
+7
Natural resources i.e. Energy resources will still not be under the purview of this fund. Still corporate and not fully national.
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Komodo01 day ago
+56
In my opinion not really, a sovereign wealth fund is used to invest surpluses in the budget. When's the last time we even broke even and had a balance budget? How are they going to fund this sovereign wealth fund when there's a massive deficit? It makes no sense.
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Previous-Space-70561 day ago
+51
Ding ding. Reading from the article, it implies citizens would invest in a fund .. profits would be used to invest in canada..
Seems more like a bond than a fund. Unless he releases more info
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Altruistic-Ad-4081 day ago
+12
Idk the Australian sovereign wealth fund has been around for 20 years and we weren't really known for breaking even either, and we also don't get most of the money directly from our resources.
But the fund is really more meant for social programs, and this one is supposed to be more infrastructure by the sounds of it. People think sovereign wealth fund and everyone thinks the Middle East or Norway, the margins you can get on oil and gas is insane, when private companies own the countries resources, the money doesn't go to the people.
On the other the reason their margins have always been so good isn't just the factors you'd think, the shipping is pretty simple.
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lochonx71 day ago
+2
90 something percent of all out mines, water, oil are already owned by foreign companies
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Turbulent-Company3731 day ago
+2
It was originally supposed to be Petro-Canada as Canada's national oil company.
2
CommercialComputer151 day ago
+563
Smart. Every nation should have one.
563
BiBoFieTo1 day ago
+286
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith reportedly countered with a plan for a sovereign "Lifted Ford F-250" fund.
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cinyar1 day ago
+94
Ontario Premier Doug Ford responded with "hold my jet"
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h0twired23 hr ago
+5
This just makes me happy to have Wab Kinew as my premier
5
TheRC1351 day ago
+13
"The government could never operate an F-250! We need to give tax breaks to giant private companies to buy their own F-250s."
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Raven5861 day ago
+6
And she’ll use the not withstanding clause to pass it 😂
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kermityfrog21 day ago
+67
Just have to guard it well. The next Conservative government will probably pillage it.
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Optimus_Prime_Day22 hr ago
+8
This.
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Vandergrif21 hr ago
+6
Of course, they have to have the funds on hand to give directly to oil and gas companies, those poor destitute corporations.
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WingerRules1 day ago
+25
Can't believe the US hasn't done it with their resources, especially oil. US is now the #1 producer of oil in the world and the citizens see jack shit of the benefits from it. We've allowed our natural resources to be monopolized by oligarchs, when it should belong to all citizens. 15% or so of natural resource exports should go into a fund to fund infrastructure, safety nets, college education, and investments in industries.
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philmarcracken22 hr ago
+3
kevin 07 tried that shit here in australia and it was not just political suicide, it was backstabbing murder
3
casualguitarist1 day ago
+7
\*\*\* If those countries know how to save. Canada, US etc don't and have been running on deficits and debt for almost all of their recent history. Australia created one \~20 years ago and it's now at $150 billion, that's maybe ONE 500 km highspeed railway line if they used all of it they won't. But it works for Norway and Saudi's with very high surplus and incomes.
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ScheduleGlittering531 day ago
+1155
I just can’t believe everything he has done in a year. Just goes to show what a country can achieve with a socially liberal fiscally conservative centrist PM who is more a banker than a politician.
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wayoverpaid1 day ago
+63
Is a wealth fund really fiscally conservative? Direct government investment in the economy can be a great value when deployed competently, but it's the opposite of limited government intervention.
Carney is fiscally conservative in some ways, but this isn't it.
He is proof though that there's more appeal in simple economic competence than any kind of identify politics. Most people won't care about the gender balance of your cabinet as much as they care about paying their bills. It's still very good to do socially progressive things, mind you, but it's not as broadly appealing as a healthy economic engine.
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thatsme55ed1 day ago
+54
I agree that Carney isn't as fiscally conservative as people assume. He's responding as any competent leader would when dealing with a catastrophic unprecedented crisis by triaging priorities.
But his life after running the Banks of Canada and England, prior to stepping back into politics, was marked by his advocacy for environmental and social justice causes. It's the exact opposite course taken by actual fiscal conservatives like harper who join the boards of right wing think tanks and make life worse for the rest of us.
He's prioritizing Canadians' ability to pay their bills and feed their children because making sure they can do that is the most fundamental responsibility of any leader, but I suspect (and hope) that he'll make progress towards the goals he's clearly passionate about.
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goldflame331 day ago
+13
Seems like a "fiscally conservative" vs "fiscally disciplined" sort of thing
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thegimboid22 hr ago
+9
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people who say they're "fiscally conservative" are actually closer to this, where the main issue they have with policies tends to be the lack of efficacy.
Carney tends to be pretty disciplined and efficient with money matters due to his background, so it tends to be more likely to satisfy people where that's their usual issues with politics.
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lexcyn1 day ago
+73
100%
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brilliant_bauhaus1 day ago
+159
I think it's more his economic background than being fiscally conservative. Trudeau had a teaching background and implemented a lot of social policies especially when first getting into office. So I'd say both got a lot done just in different areas of their interest and expertise.
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thrway-fatpos1 day ago
+248
Just goes to show what we can do with a politician who doesnt focus on idpol.
Both Trudeau and Trump are on opposite sides of the spectrum but the one thing they have in common is an obsessive focus on identity politics while ignoring economic or geopolitical issues.
248
Young_Lochinvar1 day ago
+325
It’s easy nowadays to dismiss Trudeau, but Carney couldn’t do half of what he is now if Trudeau hadn’t rebuilt the Liberal Party.
325
ColtonComeau1 day ago
+195
Some people can’t pass an opportunity to dunk on Trudeau.
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GriffinFlash1 day ago
+47
I live in Alberta, so many trucks with stickers. Ugghhh.
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PostwarNeptune1 day ago
+24
Still? Thats wild.
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GriffinFlash1 day ago
+20
Yup. Or they have a "f*** carney" sticker over top.
One I saw recently was "different name, same shit" or something like that.
20
andythebonk1 day ago
+19
There's idiots like that in Ontario. This IS their identity, too stupid or willfully ignorant to create their own.
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SnacksGPT1 day ago
+12
Alberta. Canada’s Florida.
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dj_soo1 day ago
+7
Texas is closer imo. Runs in oil, beef,misinformation, and bigotry
7
CanuckBacon22 hr ago
+3
Cowboys, Christians, Conservatives, and Carbon.
3
GriffinFlash1 day ago
+5
I went to school with people who legit thought the earth was 6000 years old, evolution was a lie Darwin told to anger his father, and giants were real. It do be.
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thrway-fatpos1 day ago
+70
Trudeau was a great PM for the first term, but he honestly should not have been PM for 10 years. His heart was in the right place but I don't think he had the political know-how to run the country for 3 terms.
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phluidity1 day ago
+68
He was also the right person to get us through Covid. But doing that used up pretty much all of his political capital and the public was ready to move on.
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JokeMe-Daddy1 day ago
+21
He's great in a crisis, but not so great at actual governing. I'm still salty about election reform.
Still, he was good during COVID, and through Trump's first term.
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phluidity1 day ago
+12
I think that's a very fair summary of Trudeau. And I agree about election reform. But even there, too many people seem to want perfect instead of better.
12
obvilious1 day ago
+28
I guess we are now in the revisionist period for Trudeau, where we start saying silly trite things like he only cares about X and he only did Y.
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LeeStrange1 day ago
+20
Trudeau wasn't nearly as obsessed with identity politics as much as his detractors/Pierre Poilievre tried to twist everything he did into identity politics.
Literally in 2026 the only people obsessed with identity politics are the right, insofar as anything outside the norm of the nuclear Christian family is "OMG WOKE".
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szucs20201 day ago
+16
Trudeau raising the capital gains tax was one of the greatest achievements for the middle and lower middle class from the last administration. Nobody considers it because the next government, lead by a banker, immediately ripped it out. Not enough people consider the diminishing value of labour and the increasing value of capital, and how it hurts our economy. I agree about the focus on identity politics though.
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SportsDegen18671 day ago
+13
100% agreed. This is finally the government I was looking for.
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Strange-Salt7201 day ago
+17
I voted for a conservative last election. I was wrong about Carney. He's better than Pierre for the situation we're in right now. He's the best guy to deal with the US and also unify the rest of the world (excellent job of doing so btw). I'd still like to see more of a drastic taper off of our immigration situation compared to his consistent 5 year targets per the last budget. But, the guy is extremely qualified for the economic stuff which I'm too stupid to understand so maybe there's good reason for that. Overall, Canada got lucky with Carney and I hope he stays long enough in the seat to reshape course because we need him.
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RetroSwamp1 day ago
+16
Crazy there are people in Canada claiming he's a communist and he's ruining Canada.
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rabbitholeseverywher21 hr ago
+5
I've never been happier with a party or a politician than I am with Carney - and I voted Con in the election before last year's.
5
RetroSwamp21 hr ago
+3
So I assume you're old school conservative and not whatever they turned into these days. Interesting to see you are happy with Carney while other conservatives say otherwise.
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eipotttatsch1 day ago
+14
I don’t really see how these policies are fiscally conservative
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givetake18 hr ago
+5
It's a blanket term used by people that don't understand economics, or that choose to ignore the realities of conservative economic policies, which is austerity cuts and tax cuts for corporations and the rich.
5
Conservative-canuck819 hr ago
+2
In what universe is a 90 billion dollar deficit considered fiscally conservative lol.
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Sil-Seht18 hr ago
+2
Fiscally conservative? No, the liberals run the largest debts, and the sovereign wealth fund comes from debt too, just debt we hope gets outpaced by growth.
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dudesrock9417 hr ago
+2
He hasn't accomplished anything. Canadians are more broke than when he started. The country is running massive deficits and isn't a huge net debt position. It does not need to invest its way out of debt. He needs to perhaps look at how much it spends. Frivolously.
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Irr3l3ph4nt1 day ago
+161
As a Canadian, I'd like to see such a fund financed from a tax on raw resources directly exported and not transformed in Canada. Then the fund invests in transformation.
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jovin491 day ago
+37
This is a great idea, but would require provincial buy in, which would not be likely. Administration of natural resources are a provincial jurisdiction, not federal.
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picklee1 day ago
+28
Duties on exports are federal.
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Irr3l3ph4nt1 day ago
+17
Export duties are federal, though, no? They're not impeding extraction or anything. Just putting an export tariff, duty, tax, call it what you want.
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jovin491 day ago
+11
True, good point, I didn't think of that.
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TheGentlemanWalrus-1 day ago
+17
A very reasonable idea that would materially benefit Canadians, and for that reason Smith would never stand for it
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MachineSpirited70851 day ago
+53
It would've been good 40 years ago, like Norway, but it's better than nothing. I'm sure Canadians would rather have their taxes parked there than in another country for warfare, and not for humanitarian aid
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Maximum_Error30831 day ago
+50
They should make contributions to it tax deductible similar to RRSPs.
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ExtraButterNoCrusts1 day ago
+11
Agreed. There needs to be some value coming back to the investor behind the intrinsic value of investing in the country you live in.
11
red_planet_smasher1 day ago
+3
Agreed, there has to be some hook that’s missing in this announcement. Is it a charity? A registered investment account? Or just a regular GIC type account?
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Irr3l3ph4nt1 day ago
+2
Make it a supplemental TFSA amount reserved for the fund. And please, please have it financed another way than just retail and institutional investors, otherwise its just another disguised BDC, IQ, IO, name 'em.
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kladen6661 day ago
+9
Just tax at fair rate any use of water (looking at you nestle) and use that money toward the fund.
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DeathCabForYeezus1 day ago
+137
It isn't a sovereign wealth fund. The fund itself doesn't create money to pay for things, and seeing as Canada has deficits there's no surplus to feed it.
It's effectively a debt/bond-funded infrastructure bank.
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Fire_Treadlite1 day ago
+9
Yes my guess is that there will be bonds issued at a fixed rate and the proceeds will be used to seed the fund.
Some crown assets such as new or existing ports could also be added to the fund..
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dollarsandcents1011 day ago
+41
Apparently the government is giving it a $25 billion endowment to start. Where that money comes from, who knows.
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ParkingCrew15621 day ago
+30
australia kicked off 20 years ago with a lot $60 billion AUD ($40 billion USD) amount, now worth $180 billion US (and has paid for a fair bit of stuff in the meantime)
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SketchyCharacters23 hr ago
+4
They've made a comment about it already, but it seems like it's getting funded partially by the increased oil profits lately.
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itsbedroomtime1 day ago
+6
It's specified in the article; they're apparently announcing tomorrow for the spring budget review that Canada is in a better financial situation that expected
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milkplantation1 day ago
+13
Debt and investment aren’t mutually exclusive. The fund can de risk big projects, attract private capital, and generate long term returns that exceed government financing cost. If the investment outperforms the debt then you’ve got a home run.
Well played by Canada.
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drysleeve61 day ago
+41
Can't believe this isn't higher up.
If a country has debt, any "fund" isn't a wealth fund. It's fueled by debt
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WildWeaselGT1 day ago
+50
I have a big mortgage. That doesn’t mean I’m not also saving for my retirement.
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LanfineWind1 day ago
+15
Canada is one of the few countries where public pension CPP is fully funded. It skews debt comparisons with other countries, but running a balanced budget for a decade would immensely improve long term fiscal health.
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krectus1 day ago
+7
As it says, Canadians can directly contribute to it. And probably will if given incentives. More details to come later today.
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airship_of_arbitrary1 day ago
+3
It's being endowed with $25 billion to start.
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Ok-Teaching39041 day ago
+6
Going to need more details. What’s been told so far doesn’t explain anything. He says we will be able to
Invest and see a return so it sounds more like a stock or something. Nowhere near enough information.
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Dapper_15341 day ago
+17
Current US administration has been a blessing in disguise for Canada....woke it up from it's long drawn slumber and work towards national security.
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cyclingkingsley1 day ago
+19
way too little information for me to understand in what way this can benefit Canada. Sounds like every single countries just wants to copy-and-paste Norway's SWF and hope it would be a plus....
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Top_Historian65621 day ago
+19
Norway copied theirs from Alberta.
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airship_of_arbitrary1 day ago
+14
Who then stopped contributing to it once the Conservatives took power in the province.
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Top_Historian65621 day ago
+9
Yup. Quite the shame for Albertans. But it's what they wanted and voted for, so zero sympathy for them.
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Baronzemo1 day ago
+8
Conservatives were in power the whole time. They created it. They stopped contributing when energy revenues dropped by 80% in the late 80s.
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beseri22 hr ago
+3
Kuwait had a sovereign wealth fund based of oil and gass 20 years before Alberta. An Iraqi immigrant to Norway, Farouk al-Kasim, was one of the major contributors to set up the wealth fund because he had experience from the Middle East.
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Harbinger200115 hr ago
+3
The information is a short search away. This fund is nothing like Norway’s. It’s for funding Canadian investment.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2026/04/canada-strong-fund.html
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Feuros1 day ago
+8
Please build in protections so that the next Conservative government that comes into power can't pilfer this fund for theirs and their donors' personal enrichment.
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run_midnight1 day ago
+33
Gonna need to refine our own oil for that...
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Fire_Treadlite1 day ago
+11
Care to explain? I mean. I'm not against it, and we do refine some oil and I would support refining more. But what's that have to do with creating a sovereign wealth fund?
Are you infering that this is the only way we would have the money to create one?
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Xx_PrettyMuch_xX1 day ago
+18
And probably pay off our massive debt
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TapZorRTwice1 day ago
+17
You know whats really good at paying off massive debt?
Drilling for oil.
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AllenLaing1 day ago
+11
3-2-1 Poilievre enters the room with his usual whining.
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SportsDegen18671 day ago
+20
Love to hear this, huge Carney fan but is this concerning:
"The second half of the bill, the Building Canada Act, enables the federal cabinet to pick projects, approve them upfront and *override federal laws, environmental reviews and the permitting process.*"
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silicondali1 day ago
+34
No, it doesn't. What it does is appoint a Minister or Ministry to be the single point of contact for all federal authorizations required for a major project that meets the economic, reconciliation, and climate criteria to be dedicated a Project of National Interest. The Act specifically notes that it does not supersede the technical or safety authority of governing legislation.
The exemption under the Impact Assessment Act is the Initiation Phase. This phase is a 90-day period where a proponent presents an initial project description, there is a 30-day public and Indigenous consultation period, and then the proponent submits a detailed project description that incorporates the feedback received during the consultation period. This period is the "offramp" period for projects that may trigger impact assessment, but can also receive a determination of "impact assessment not required" if they can demonstrate adequate mitigation of adverse effects. The assumption built into the BCA is that the PONI review and designation process would confirm the need for an IA, so the project would proceed directly to the Planning phase, rather than Initiation.
Really the BCA is putting pressure on federal departments to better coordinate their reviews. The process right now sucks. I can spend several years working through an impact assessment just to emerge on the other end with a big list of approval conditions and not a single statutory authorization that lets us break ground. The intent is to get proponents and ministries working together to obtain authorization packages. BC also passed similar legislation last year, except they snuck in an environmental assessment exemption clause.
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SportsDegen18671 day ago
+12
Ah I see, thanks for the thorough explanation!
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TieDiscombobulated731 day ago
+8
Wooo
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Bleakwind1 day ago
+12
Jesus mark. You’re going to make other world leaders look like total amateurs at this rate.
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HoonaK1 day ago
+3
Isn't this basically CPPIB
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PartTime_Crusader1 day ago
+3
I love the idea of a sovereign wealth fund in theory. Charge resource extractors actual market rates for their impact on public lands and put the money into a fund that can be invested or spent on behalf of citizens.
In practice, when Trump started talking sovereign wealth fund after his second election, I got the heebie-jeebies. Something like this has to be set up with very stringent guardrails to keep a tyrant type from raiding it for their personal or political benefit.
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Turbulent-Company3731 day ago
+5
Wasn't the creation of Petro-Canada after the 1973 OAPEC oil embargo crisis supposed to have been Canada's national oil company which should have insulated Canadian citizens from rising oil shock crisis and shortages such as is currently being experienced?
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Intelligent_Note_83023 hr ago
+3
This is very exciting news. I will be interested to see where the $25B is coming from. I applaud the fact that everyday Canadians can invest as well!
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onlypham22 hr ago
+3
F****** yes!
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Just_Far_Enough21 hr ago
+3
I think we need to corral the deficit first and a rational and honest roadmap to that goal should be our first fiscal priority.
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Haunting_Ad_519119 hr ago
+3
Who controls appointments to the board
How can shareholders prevent cronies appointment to the company
Who decides what to invest in. Government (politicians) or the independent board
Hope to find out good Andrew to these questions. Early days
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Apodro18 hr ago
+3
This guy is great for Canada, congrats!
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maximm1 day ago
+5
This is great news!
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whereiskyleb1 day ago
+5
Sovereign wealth fund is cool and all, but we do have the 780B CPP fund as well. I would like to see that fund deployed similar to how Quebec leveraged it's public and parapublic pension plans into making key investments in Montreal's REM and the Canada Line in Vancouver.
Here's a Youtube video that goes over it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHqqA0onn0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHqqA0onn0)
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saras9981 day ago
+10
Our pension plan isn't his to risk though.
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Aeveras1 day ago
+6
Canadians can invest directly in the fund. Neat.
I'll throw a portion of my TFSA at that. Even if the returns lag the rest of the market I like the idea of putting some of my money behind Canada growing stronger and more independent.
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du_bekar19 hr ago
+3
Same. If it all looks good at launch then I'll start sending like 5% of my RRSP contributions to this instead.
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FuzzyCub201 day ago
+7
This is amazing news. You only have to look at countries like Norway to see how great a sovereign wealth fund can be for a nation.
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Master_Positive_27721 day ago
+12
Isn't it strange how everyone who has abandoned the US now has more freedom to pursue prosperity than ever before? It's almost as though the US remained powerful by subduing it's allies.
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QueasyKaleidoscope991 day ago
+5
I'm sure PP is going to go ballistic over this.
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SkyAdministrative9701 day ago
+5
Inb4 Alberta shits itself angey about how this is theft and unfair and stupid and will kill jobs and industry in a very well established sector that essentially prints money as it is.
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Broccobillo1 day ago
+6
Can Carney come be NZ leader once he's done fixing Canada
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azureal1 day ago
+5
We’ve got David Pocock in Australia absolutely savaging the gas industry in an attempt to get our government to start taxing gas imports, and all of our politicians are weak spines pieces of shit. Especially you Albo you f****** waste of space.
Well done Canada, good stuff!
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skybike1 day ago
+7
I feel like this guy has done more in less than a year than Trudeau's entire tenure.
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chaiscool1 day ago
+2
Just don't follow or listen to investors like softbank Masayoshi Son and lose money.
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ahmadtheanon1 day ago
+2
Please dont be like us (Malaysia).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1MDB
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Minty5141 day ago
+2
About damn time
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nomamesgueyz1 day ago
+2
About time
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Eric_Gen1001 day ago
+2
Singapore created theirs in the 80s, China created theirs in the 90s.
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Svv33tPotat021 hr ago
+2
Um this sure sounds like a big handout to extractive industries like fossil fuels and timber. Also, wealthy Canadians who can afford to invest will be the main beneficiaries on the investor end of things.
Mayyybe is better than the status quo, but ultimately is deregulating industries that already need to be phased out.
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