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Cause of death released for teen found dead in singer D4vd's car

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Girl, 14, found in singer D4vd's car died of 'multiple injuries'
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Girl, 14, found in singer D4vd's car died of 'multiple injuries'
The medical examiner said the 14-year-old's cause of death was determined months ago but was blocked from release.

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ElThrowaway-619 2 days ago +437
*"The Los Angeles County medical examiner's office on Wednesday announced that they'd ruled Celeste Rivas Hernandez's death a homicide, noting that the 14-year-old died of injuries caused by an undisclosed object or objects."*
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AuspiciousBhudda 2 days ago +403
The official cause of death was multiple stab wounds (or 'penetrative injuries' as the article puts it) but they couldnt figure out what did it due to the level of decay and the condition of her body. Absolutely vile and horrendous stuff.
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tripleaw 2 days ago +77
It is horrendous, MEs can’t even tell whether it’s sharp or blunt, that’s how decomposed her body is :(
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HallucinateZ 2 days ago +36
The article notes blue plastic in her stab wounds too. That’s very odd.
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PartyPay 2 days ago +19
Stabbed while in a plastic bag?
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EliteJoz 2 days ago +11
Or perhaps a knife loosely wrapped in a plastic bag because they were thinking that would hide their DNA and prints from being on the weapon ?
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mymemesnow 2 days ago +20
It’s such a stupid fkn excuse anyway. If someone overdoses you call for an ambulance, you don’t chop up the body, put it in bags and put them away. Even if you panic. Leif GW person (a famous Swedish professor in criminology) said that most people can be pushed into murdering someone, but very few people would be capable of dismembering a human body. That requires an abnormal mentality, likely antisocial.
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Alibotify 2 days ago +5
Didn’t think I’ll see a GW mention but of course it’s logical.
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Low_Intention_1327 2 days ago +6
Ive yet to see anyone who has used that defense, be truthful. Its just a way of them owning up to it while trying to make the murder charges into something less, like tampering with evidence, mutilation of a corpse or even man slaughter. Its sort of like Russell Brand owning up to sleeping with a 16 year old. He thinks if he at least owns up to that one which was legal in his country, the worse incidents of his will be forgotten or seen as just rumors. 
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Formal_Line_3800 2 days ago +2
Well he was dating a underage runaway so I'm sure he wouldn't want to call the cops if she had an overdose.
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woolfonmynoggin 2 days ago +4
Well young teens generally get the drugs from an adult so still murder
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Formal_Line_3800 2 days ago +1
Yes of course lol. I'm not disagreeing. I'm just trying to explain what I think his thought process was if she overdosed.
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___cats___ 2 days ago +159
Ah yes. Cause of death: dying
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NobodyLikedThat1 2 days ago +83
seriously vague. But homicide at least tells us they think it was definitely caused by a person rather than misadventure or something.
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Indigo903 2 days ago +59
The article says “multiple penetrating injuries”, so like stabbing I guess. The fact that they didn’t just use the word stabbing is interesting though.
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will_write_for_tacos 2 days ago +45
Theyre being super vague but it sounds like he may have used something other than a knife too. Like a letter opener, ice pick, screwdriver, etc.
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Mental-Objective542 2 days ago +26
Bc the body is already rotted, your skin get ate away by bugs and turns to a gel like liquid. They can't say knife or pick axe, or specific item bc where she was "stabbed" Those areas bleed alot and the bugs will go there first, injuries, eyes, mouth and privates are the first stuff to decompose
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dogsryummy1 2 days ago +2
First day on the internet?
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gfb13 2 days ago +13
Hmm would bullet wounds be considered penetrating injuries?
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Professional_Nugget 2 days ago +9
Probably not? I'm guessing the deeper internal damage that happens with gun shot wounds would be discernable compared to more superficial stab wounds. And they likely would have phrased it that way in the report. Don't know for certain though
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averysmalldragon 2 days ago +3
bullet wounds are a type of penetrating trauma, yes. stab wounds, as an example, are a specific type of penetrating trauma.
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Professional_Nugget 2 days ago +3
I suppose I could have phrased myself better. Bullet wounds are certainly in the category of "penetrating trauma" but I was meaning to say that I doubt a coroner would use that terminology if they suspected that the wounds were from a gun. Gunshots cause pretty distinct wounds compared to stab wounds
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Indigo903 2 days ago +2
Sorry for not reading the entire thing lol, I’m on my phone and didn’t feel like scrolling through all of the ads on the BBC website. But the first sentence of the article says she had multiple penetrative wounds and they don’t use the word stab until much later in the article. I was commenting more on the phrasing of that first sentence.
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DidAnyoneElseJustCum 2 days ago +10
It's actually a very important distinction. There are a litany of crimes committed if she died of a drug overdose or something but none as serious as homicide.
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Morningfluid 2 days ago +8
You left out an object was used...
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HallucinateZ 2 days ago +4
? The article literally says she was stabbed.
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talktotheak47 2 days ago +5
No, the manner of death is homicide and the cause of death is very difficult to say with the level of decomp the ME is working with in this case. It seems to be likely either stabbing or blunt for trauma though.
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Suchgallbladder 2 days ago +23
Homicide means murder, not dying.
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ChronStamos 2 days ago +6
Homicide means killed by another human. It doesn't have to be murder.
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____Manifest____ 2 days ago -29
So glad that you were here to explain that to everybody here who already knows.
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Morningfluid 2 days ago +22
Except the person they were responding to...
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FunkyDiscount 2 days ago -1
That's fatal!
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lifegoeson5322 2 days ago +3
Jesus. Sounds like she was tortured before her death. Poor little girl. Hope the perpetrator gets the maximum penalties applied.
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ShanzokeyeLin 2 days ago +1
Surprised they didn’t call it a Romantic Homicide
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picpak 2 days ago +103
Well, at least his first charting single wasn't called "Romantic Homicide". Wouldn't that be something?
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editorreilly 2 days ago +34
I never heard his music before so I went and listened. Unless he can figure out how to do a release while in prison. This will be the last one.
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Vadermaulkylo 2 days ago +124
As someone who really dug his music, the fact that it was almost all about a f****** 12 year old when he was 19-20 is next level insane. I’m usually one that easily can separate an artist from the art but even I gotta draw a line when it’s about a girl who is barely out of elementary school who also would go on to be murdered by the psycho. One of the craziest and most tragic cases in recent memory.
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AP_in_Indy 2 days ago +28
He had other victims as well.
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IrresponsibleEgg29 2 days ago +17
Source?
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago +4
It's alleged that other minors came forward after Celeste was found regarding possible CSA but since they are minors that information may not be public information at this time.
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Western_Clock_4937 1 day ago +1
I remember looking him up a while ago when I was into his music and wondering “who are these songs even about? He’s so young and these songs are just so… passionate (in the sense that the emotions are just very strong)”. Fucked up to learn who these songs were indeed about. I’m praying for justice for Celeste and the other victims. 
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Vadermaulkylo 1 day ago +1
I agree and that was part of his appeal. His songs felt so passionate and almost unusually authentic for a young artist nowadays. It being about a legit child is so disturbing.
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joebgoode 2 days ago +22
Is there any chance he'll face the death penalty?
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MrOatButtBottom 2 days ago +37
Why should he? Life with no parole is sooooo much worse, and seems properly judicious.
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NickCrowder 2 days ago +20
Is it really worse though? Probably an unpopular opinion but I believe human beings are highly adaptable to their environment. It might be difficult at first but once they get into their routine, I don’t think it’s worse than death. You might even have some pretty good days that your victim(s) will never get to experience again.
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Higher_Primate 2 days ago +14
Yes. Prison is **a lot** worse. Humans hate boredom and being trapped, and that's all prison is
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bosorero 2 days ago +2
Joke’s on us if he loves dropping soap
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LoKeyIdiot 2 days ago +11
I’d rather die than go to prison.
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Going2beBANNEDanyway 2 days ago +8
Prison is worse. If it’s death the only bad experience they will feel is dying. After that they will not experience punishment.
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JugdishGW 2 days ago +5
Yes, prison tends to be far worse. Especially for someone most likely guilty of the crimes he’s committed. Fellow inmates are going to routinely remind him that he messed up big time.
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sudolicious 2 days ago +2
lmao you watch too many bad movies. Most of the fellow inmates aren't exactly innocent either (hence the imprisonment) and they're not exactly looking to get themselves into trouble. Also, he's an attractive music star, it's only a matter of time until some lunatics will spin this and start sending him love letters and funds. Those funds would obviously be beneficial to people on the inside.
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JugdishGW 2 days ago +2
I had family in prison and I’ve heard stories from them. I’m not pulling info from “bad movies”.
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sudolicious 2 days ago -1
You heard stories from formerly imprisoned people, a peer group not necessarily known for their honesty. Setting that aside, you can see how you wouldn't want to scare off your golden goose? And you can see how getting to keep living as a golden goose is preferable to, let's say, being executed? E: lmao, JugdishGW decided to block me over this reply, I only see these comments in private mode logged out. I'm sorry about some of your family spending time in prison, I didn't mean to mock them, I was obviously speaking in broader generalizations. I also don't mean to make a comment on whether the guy should be executed or not, I'm just saying, the life he's got left isn't exactly looking as bad as it could right now.
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TheSadPhilosopher 1 day ago +1
Exactly.
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GambitsAce23 15 hr ago +1
Yeah, which is why i never get the death penalty support, on one hand, you might execute someone innocent, which has happened recently, even though they knew the guy was innocent, their 'hands were tied', or you just end their suffering too early anyway.
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Ivotedforthehookers 2 days ago +2
Exactly, the a****** can just rot in prison. It costs less overall and since there isnt a direct threat of a pending execution the appeals will be low priority. Basically he would just be forgotten. 
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago -2
I rather not pay taxes to feed and house him for 50 years. I wish we went old school and got rid of convicts like him sooner. Paying to keep them on the planet is such a waste of resources. It disgusts me that our prison system is for profit. And California hasn't put anyone to death on a while. Even on death row he might live out his natural life. 
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MrOatButtBottom 1 day ago +1
Do you have any basic understanding of how appeals work? Our justice system has many problems, but under no circumstances do I trust the State to have the ability to enforce the death penalty. My own morality allows ZERO innocent people to be executed by the state.
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hiding_in_NJ 2 days ago +3
He chopped her finger off
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meganmooretattoos 1 day ago +1
Yes but California hasn’t executed anyone since 2006 so it’s unlikely.
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mewikime 2 days ago -1
In California? No.
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FacePsychological739 2 days ago +10
Death penalty does exist in California, actually.
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zg33 2 days ago +14
Only on the books. The last execution was in 2006, there is a moratorium in place on further executions, and the death row itself has been abolished. Prisoners under death sentences are treated the same as life sentence prisoners and can walk the compound.
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Going2beBANNEDanyway 2 days ago +6
As it should have been abolished. Since 1978 six people have been completely exonerated and been freed because they were wrongly convicted in California.
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MrOatButtBottom 1 day ago +1
The Innocence Project is a great example of why the death penalty is morally unjustifiable.
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mewikime 2 days ago +4
It exists, but they haven't executed anyone in 20 years and it's been ordered that no further executions occur. So in answer to the actual question from the Listnookor of if there's any chance he'll face the death penalty, there is zero chance as the trial is taking place in California.
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texasraider 2 days ago +4
That’s incorrect, he could face the death penalty in court. Will he be ultimately executed, almost certainly not
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majesticnoodl 2 days ago -1
Don’t quibble, clearly the dude meant death penalty as in “will be executed”
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mio26 2 days ago -5
Nah. I would say more it can be problem to sentences him with murder unless prosecutor have some kind direct evidence like conversations on the phone or maybe CCTV. It's apparent They don't even know how she dies apart fact that she was murdered. It is not good situation for prosecution on paper. For now it looks like actually as tough court case for prosecutors to go for the most strict charges. Unless again they have much more than share.
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago
They do know how she died. You aren't up to date. The prosecution has a lot of evidence. David documented everything. 
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mio26 1 day ago
They do? That we will see at court. Because prosecutors would have their experts, defense would have their own. Meanwhile body was heavily decomposed. It causes that even in case of advance of medicine autopsy would be less indicative. That's natural so there is field for speculation for defense. For some reason they have clear date but they aren't sure that she died that day exactly. They don't have for now murderer weapon. He documented abuse, not murder because otherwise his lawyers would advise him to plead guilty if they were sure they can't win. Of course don't take me wrong he would go into jail but still he can not go there for morder. It can be easy case but it can be very taught. Depends indeed on evidence of prosecutors. Of course I know he is guilty lol but the question is whatever prosecutors can prove it.
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SpecificDate7501 1 day ago +1
Had a seizure trying to read this
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chelssssk 2 days ago +14
I highly believe that he had help from somebody to either clean up the scene or mutilate her
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Sea-Sound-6774 2 days ago +4
Definitely. 
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AdDifferent1936 2 days ago +2
The thing is, he is a highly known singer, how is he not accompanied all the time, how people around him didn’t notice that the girl was not around anymore. It’s very weird that he did all that alone, or even if he did it alone how come anyone didn’t knew about it
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago +1
I think, of anyone, Neo knew and may have helped. He could have easily told everyone else that they broke up. Why would she still hang around in that scenario? But I think Neo knew what happened because him and David were especially close. 
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Firm-Wallaby-3235 2 days ago +249
Her parents should be charged too. She was failed by the people who were supposed to protect her. 
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Roark_Laughed 2 days ago +139
I don’t know the whole story regarding the parents, but unless there’s something I don’t know please don’t always judge the parents. Some parents have done everything right only to end up with a kid who rebels in the absolute worst ways. I stopped judging the parents once I saw my sister break my own.
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pineapple09 2 days ago +14
I made a passing comment about laying off the parents and people acted like I kicked their dog. It sounds like they may not have been good parents, but what happened to their daughter is horrifying and was caused by the one singular piece of shit who killed her and ditched her body. Acting like child neglect and murder/mutilation of a child’s corpse are equivalent is gross. I appreciate your statement.
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M4kelyon 2 days ago +23
Celeste sister say that the parentes KNEW it, please stop with this non sense(they are part of the problem too).
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StillBummedNouns 2 days ago +23
You think this person knew what the victims sister said? Lol
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HauntedBitsandBobs 2 days ago +9
This is a high profile case and it was reported that her family was aware of their relationship before her remains had even been formally identified. IIRC, they even went to the police after they heard a body had been found in his car because they knew it was her because of the shh tattoo, which they said she got with her older boyfriend named David. There's never been a question of whether they knew.
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Islanduniverse 2 days ago +4
What did they know about him? Did they know he was a murderer? Or that he has violent tendencies? Cause knowing she was dating an older guy doesn’t mean they knew she would be murdered. If they knew he was violent toward her, and the did nothing, then I could see them being partly responsible.
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Cow_kisser 2 days ago +1
An older guy? Way to downplay, he was an adult and she was 14 - as a parent you put an end to that shit ASAP.
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Islanduniverse 1 day ago +2
Oh, I agree with that 100%, but that doesn't mean the parents are at fault for a grown-ass man murdering their daughter... It isn't downplaying. Do you have kids? You can only control so much. They could have "put an end to that shit ASAP" and then she still sneaks out and does what she wants. Unless they are watching her 24/7, they can't possibly control everything she does. I am also not saying they are absolved of blame, but we need more information to know for sure to what extent, and to determine whether they should be held criminally liable.
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Cow_kisser 1 day ago +3
I see your point, your right. It was reactionary of me, I’m sorry.
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Islanduniverse 1 day ago +3
It’s all good. You do make a really good point about their age differences. It’s disgusting, and good parents wouldn’t be (as seems to be the case here) completely apathetic about their daughter dating an older man. Hopefully the investigators are being as thorough as possible, but so far they seem to be incompetent, considering how long they took to arrest that dude when he seems so obviously guilty…
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Such-Cartographer425 2 days ago +4
So what if they KNEW? I know tons of shit I can't control and wish I didn't know. So do you.
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Unipiggy 2 days ago -139
> Some parents have done everything right only to end up with a kid who rebels in the absolute worst ways. This is just straight up untrue, especially in this case where we've heard ***zilch*** from her parents. Who seemingly knew nothing of the people she hung out with. Parents fail their children by giving them smart phones at wayyyy too early of an age and not having a transparent relationship. Kids don't rebel out of nowhere unless they have BPD or something, and even *that* is manageable with therapy, support, and medication. I know you think your parents did right by you, but I don't think your sister would have the same story. I and my sister lived in the same house as well, but were treated *drastically* different. I see this time and time again. "I was the perfect parent, what went wrong" what went wrong is you gave your support too late, if ***any.*** My older sister wonders why her daughter rebelled so much acting like she did everything right, and let me tell you she couldn't have been further from the truth. The denial is insane and harmful to the child.
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Usagi1983 2 days ago +98
I have a kid with BPD and have fostered and adopted kids, I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way but holy cow those comments are just really naive. You can do everything right with therapy, medication, and a stable household and I wouldn’t describe it as manageable. It’s *work* and even then it’s day by day. Even stuff like oppositional defiance disorder comes out of nowhere and can derail a kids school year or cause unsafe behaviors. Tl/dr parenting is tough as hell, man.
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Prince_Vegeta88 2 days ago +27
This. I have a child who will likely be diagnosed with BPD in adulthood (no formal diagnosis as a teen), they’re at the least showing the tendencies. It’s constant work, they’ve been in multiple holds and programs. Two to three sessions with therapy a week and after 4 years, we may see some light with therapy and the new med combination. This all comes at a cost to their siblings and us parents, but you do what you can to downplay the cost to yourselves to keep the children in the best possible position and feeling supported. No parent is perfect, but it took me near 5 years to accept that this isn’t just some magical “bad parenting” outcome. Even now, when they’re splitting and telling me how absolutely awful I am and how they hate me and want me out of their lives, I struggle to stay calm and not attack myself. Their sibling struggles not to get involved and shut them down when their emotions are taking over as well. It can be hell. These could have been amazing parents, they could have been awful or anything between. None of us will know and my heart goes out to them as well as the victim in this.
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New_Yogurtcloset_242 2 days ago +30
you have so much misinformation. her family put up missing person flyers, reached out, even persued a case the reason they can’t say anything is because their lawyers told them not to because them speaking at all will ruin any cases they’ve built against burke. you are speaking from ignorance and misinformation
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Last-Tune1001 2 days ago +48
Huh weird. The parents made a statement today. So they haven’t said zilch? Is a lie. Secondly through therapy and years of out patient treatment, my parents were actually great people and did everything they could for me. My problem was that I had my grandparents in my ear telling me lies. So no it’s not as black and white as you would like to say in your comment. Sometimes parents do everything right, and kids still rebel because of outside factors that they have no idea about. I hid these things from my parents really well, they had no idea, and why would they think their parents would lie to their child about them? Sorry your life has been hard, so many people’s have, but sometimes it’s not always what you believe it to be, no matter how bad you’ve had it
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HereOnCompanyTime 2 days ago +32
There's this really odd twist on it that the parents did nothing when in reality they reported her missing on multiple occasions. D4vd's community spins lies to deflect blame then people pick it up and repeat it.
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Net_Negative 2 days ago +19
You're right, and people who have never had to deal with a child with mental health issues will never understand. I know of a woman personally whose own son killed her. People online blamed her for his violent behavior, and she had done everything she could with the limited mental health support that exists. You see this time and time again, devastated and tired people with no help and only those who judge them online.
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DROP-TABLE- 2 days ago +12
My best friends are a special education teacher and a child psychologist, and they adopted a child with Reactive Attachment Disorder. It was a nightmare. Mutilation of small animals and sexual molestation of the family dog, including paying a friend to record it and upload it to a p*** site; waking up in the middle of the night to find him standing over them with a knife; felony-level theft at the age of 11. When he became old enough to realize how to really damage their careers and licenses, he called child protective services to report fake abuse, and the only thing that saved my friends was that he claimed it happened in public and there happened to be surveillance cameras that proved he was lying. Because of the animal violence they had to change locks on the doors and only allow him inside when they were home. So after school, while his parents were still at work, he would ring the Ring doorbell, because he knew it would send an alert to their phones, and then he’d whisper slurs into the microphone. He was arrested by police for starting a fire in a janitor’s closet at an elementary school in a different school district he didn’t even go to. He masturbated so frequently in the backseat of their SUV they had to have the seats completely replaced. Eventually they just stopped trying to coach/parent entirely and had to install deadbolts and an electronic lock on their bedroom door just so they could sleep. They lived that way for years until he was old enough to evict from their house. It doesn’t matter who the parents are, how well equipped they are, or how they discipline, there are some humans that are born into this world broken, and there’s next to no recourse or hope for a parent in that situation. I really hope you never have to go through it, and encourage you to rethink leaving your comment up.
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Ferridium 2 days ago +9
Just cos you have shit parents doesn't mean every parent is shit. Stop trying to shit on the potentially innocent just to feel better about your own trauma.
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Islanduniverse 2 days ago +3
I know so many people whose parents are amazing and they are pieces of shit. Shitty parents exist, but so do shitty kids.
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New_Yogurtcloset_242 2 days ago +9
either misinformation or you’re a burke d*** rider.
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goonsquadgoose 2 days ago +5
You’re batshit crazy
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jingleofadogscollar 2 days ago +7
Please dont comment on BPD when you are so clearly ignorant of the disorder. You are spreading misinformation & stigma that hurts vulnerable ppl.
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Ok-Examination3168 2 days ago +20
read the article - what’s her parents fault? That feels baseless
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HauntedBitsandBobs 2 days ago +5
People blame them because they knew about him and people tend to think parents can always do more. There have also been unsubstantiated stories from people who claim to have personal knowledge that she was a chronic runaway because she was deeply unhappy at home, that he gave them one or more significant amounts of money while she was with him, that they had contact with her while she was with him, and that she had even come home for a period of time before going back to him.
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lottolser 2 days ago +6
Its likely that he was paying off the parents to take their daughter to live with and date. But they never checked up on their 12 year old daughter for years because they assumed she didnt want to talk to them. She was literally a child.
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FistTheMister 2 days ago +5
What? Where is that from? Based on the article she just left and never reached out. Her parents reported her missing.
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lottolser 2 days ago +6
If you look it 7 or so months ago its allegedly he paid them like 10k a month or something up until she was found in that tesla. I believe her own close friends and family also think their parents knew of the relationship and were in on it to get the money. People who knew her likely knew she where she was and did nothing about it. https://youtu.be/CVZCRPInHfQ?si=wgnEwukeI1J85fop
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sphinxorosi 2 days ago +13
Doesn’t one of his songs include lyrics about a girl who was pimped out by her sister? Her sister also apparently had contact with her while she was listed as a missing person so I’d say toss some charges on her sister as well
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ComplexJellyfish8658 2 days ago +4
This is an absolutely horrific crime do not understand why it is moving slowly or seems that way.
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thef3d 2 days ago +7
Another article mentioned the 40 tb of data the prosecution has as evidence. It took them so long to bring charges because they want to make sure they have all the evidence lined up to be as sure as possible they can get a conviction.
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mymemesnow 2 days ago +4
Because murder cases takes time to build. Especially in high profile cases you want to make sure that what you got is water tight. Serious crimes takes a very long time and moves slowly, this one is not special in that sense.
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Over_Display_4681 2 days ago +4
F****** degenerate
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gerrysaint33 2 days ago +2
I heard the coroner this am say it was a stab wound to her liver.
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nicozi 2 days ago +2
why is nobody talking about the whole car thing? like what was the thought process there? he just dumped her decomposing body in his illegally parked car and ditched it until it got impounded? i mean it really makes no sense.
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Big-Broccoli9094 2 days ago +1
Ya more likely than not he had to leave on tour so he had someone else do it and they didn’t
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Cow_kisser 2 days ago +1
Exactly. I mean, he’s obviously a dumbass, but still.
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago +1
No, it doesn't make sense to logical and sane people. He is not that. And who knows if he had other plans but the smell was so bad that he realized he couldn't go through with incineration or driving her elsewhere because the smell was too strong and would get him in trouble. Maybe whoever he asked to help wasn't willing to do what he asked when the time came. Who knows? All I know is people who are sick, twisted and scary may not understand his train of thought and that's ok!
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Overall-Pattern-809 1 day ago +1
Saw someone say maybe he and whoever was helping him didn’t realize how difficult and or gruesome it would be to dismember her. We already know the guy is a complete dumbass I wouldn’t be surprised if that was it. 
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alilhillbilly 2 days ago +7
I've been guessing deadly murder but it might just be plain old murder
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Ghost-Power 2 days ago +7
Did anyone else notice the defense lawyers wording? They said he wasn’t responsible for her death. Interesting… wonder if there’s also another party involved
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 2 days ago +30
"It was his alter ego". Maybe she was implying he has a split personality and the other one did it. You can't believe everything the defense attorney says. I SERIOUSLY doubt he was very honest with her about what actually took place. 
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furious_femme_fatale 2 days ago +16
He unironically spoke of writing a Manga about someone’s alter ego being a murderer and it was about the solving of those murders by the… I guess normal side??
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Cow_kisser 2 days ago +1
Alter egos are so cringy in the best of situations and even more so when they’re used to justify plain evil.
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Ghost-Power 2 days ago -2
Oh yeah the lawyer is dumb then lol I thought based on that statement someone else might’ve been involved cuz they still haven’t explained when the body was placed in the vehicle??? What happened to those Tesla cameras. Anyway glad he’s locked up
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DeadPeanutSociety 2 days ago +8
There are ways that he could have been involved without killing her. She could have OD'd, had a fatal accident, or been murdered by someone else in his presence and then he hid or helped hide the body. That is to say nothing of the likelihood of any of those things, but his lawyer's job is to make a case for him.
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BotomsDntDeservRight 2 days ago +3
https://youtu.be/p0mPwPO2jiU?si=9P2MgctAJxa7oHys Yes, someone did a deep dive documentary.
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago +1
My guess was that she will plead he has a split personality or something crazy like that. 
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OtherUserCharges 1 day ago +1
I assume he did it, but to tell you the truth, the fact that the body was so rotted could mean he didn’t. You would think if you had a rotting body in the car would you get rid of it ASAP. I know I open my truck like twice a year, so if someone stashed one in my car I wouldn’t notice it at all for a long time.
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Altruistic-Sorbet927 1 day ago +1
The prosecution KNOWS he did it. They are seeing much more than we are. There was a wiretap last year. They are seeing texts between him and Celeste and Neo or anyone else he might have told or enlisted to help. I think he is 100% guilty.
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Sobotoc4311 1 day ago +1
It appears both neo and aysa weren't told shit about anything based on neos weird ramblings about the case. 
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Blackoldsun19 1 day ago +1
I can imagine him thinking, "Oh, so THAT'S where I put her dead body. No wonder I couldn't find it."
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