I’ll save you the click. She was stabbed twice, once in the liver and once in the ribs. Those were the penetrating wounds.
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philthydub2 days ago
+1846
Indeed a dumbass title
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CanIBake2 days ago
+638
They did it on purpose, it got a lot of people to click, but yeah, I hate this type of journalism
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mekomaniac2 days ago
+60
thats the dichotamy of news headlines, be super vague like this or make up some crazy shit like how one chocolate bar a day with help you to live to be 110 yrs old based on a study that says nothing like that.
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Redditornothereicumm2 days ago
+13
Hmmm.. tell me more about this chocolate bar you speak of.
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Greyhound2721 day ago
+5
It's not for eating. You rub it on your skin.
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Mikestopheles1 day ago
+5
Spoiler: it's crack
5
reddorickt2 days ago
+12
The medical examiner that put that exactly as the cause of death did it on purpose for clickbait journalism?
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Small_Editor_36932 days ago
-83
Did what on purpose? It’s a factual title
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Silly-Supermarket-632 days ago
+33
Found the journalist
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Nixikaz2 days ago
+32
It's literally what the medical examiners called it. The flesh was too decayed for them to be certain what it was. It may be pedantic but it is factual.
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Silly-Supermarket-632 days ago
-4
Being strictly factual is not the problem. It’s about clarity.
-4
JuicyJay182 days ago
+11
You get clarity by reading the article to get the full story.
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Small_Editor_36932 days ago
+6
What is unclear about a fact
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vixenstarlet19492 days ago
+50
It is exactly what the medical examiner said her cause of death was
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A_man_named_despair2 days ago
+23
God.. this is the dumbest comment thread
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coolmanjack2 days ago
+16
How tf is it a bad title? Penetrating injuries is exactly the correct descriptor.
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normanbeets2 days ago
+40
She is missing fingers as well
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Bland_Boring_Jessica2 days ago
+44
And he kept them. How sick and stupid is this guy?!
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cakesalads1 day ago
+3
I just watched Eastern Promises and now I'm wondering if this is just standard procedure
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
+173
Oof, stabbed in the liver, nasty way to go.
Pretty much means it wasn't on accident.
That dude is super fkd.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+654
>Pretty much means it wasn't on accident.
I think the dismemberment and hiding her body are the first two signs though.
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
+136
Not quite.
Some people initially thought the girl could have OD and the guy freaked out and chopped her up.
At least they hoped it had been an accident, but seems this dude was really messed in the head
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bttr-swt2 days ago
+90
They did find benzos and mdma in her system but the amounts don't indicate an OD. Seems more like he drugged her beforehand to make it easier to overpower this poor girl.
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yanocupominomb17 hr ago
+1
That's f****** horrific.
She probably saw that man who just some days ago claimed to "love" her just stab and kill her.
I hope this a****** is given life in prison, because the Death Penalty is a kindness.
He deserves to stay locked forever, haunted by what he did to that poor girl.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
>Some people initially thought the girl could have OD and the guy freaked out and chopped her up.
>seems this dude was really messed in the head
I'm pretty sure the scenario you described is even more messed up in the head than killing her and hiding the body?
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ButterRollercoaster2 days ago
+147
No, murder is worse.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
-34
And a jury would find a guy giving an underage girl drugs that she overdoses on and then dismembering her body to be murder because whether he stabbed her or not is totally irrelevant at that point.
This is merely an argument of which is worse and I think someone dismembering the body of a person who overdoses is just someone who's really, really, really wanted to chop up a body because there are 101 different options if it's an overdose death and any human with mirror cells would be physically incapable of doing that without already rushing with the adrenaline of having murdered someone.
-34
TheVolibae2 days ago
+43
It becomes more complicated if it was an OD because you have to prove he provided it to her. Its much more clean cut if you have proof of murder. Without that, you would need to prove he sourced the drugs to get him on manslaughter + desecration of corpse charges. The more clear the intent, the less gray area hoops the defendant can rely on to get a lighter sentence.
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GiveMeSumChonChon2 days ago
+20
Murder means premeditation. They would need irrefutable proof he gave her drugs with the intent of killing her. An accidental OD would be manslaughter and maybe second degree murder based on their drug use and how much he was supplying her.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+11
First degree is premeditated. Second degree is impulsive crimes. Drug overdose and dismemberment would be prosecuted as manslaughter but under those specific circumstances they're going to be scraping the floorboards looking for evidence that the overdose was caused intentionally in which case it does become murder 1 and quite frankly it's the only reason I'd except someone who isn't a meth head to dismember someone who overdosed. This specific case is probably murder 2 since I actually doubt it was premeditated. With that much money, premeditation means you don't get caught lol.
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SecondHandWatch2 days ago
+3
Murder does not mean premeditation. 1st degree murder requires premeditation.
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SutterCane2 days ago
+3
You give people too much credit.
I can see it now. The defense keeps playing up that she was a hanger-on, trying to get in with someone famous. She’s the one that was doing dangerous things to try and impress the guy. Eventually that means drugs and more drugs. So all he would be guilty of is a mistake while out of his mind on drugs when she ODed, according to his lawyers.
All the scummy defense attorney would need is a few more guys on the jury than women. Or maybe a few of those women who say “she should have known better”.
But now there’s evidence of murder. Which is more difficult to spin against the drugged up girl.
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Ok-Hair72051 day ago
+3
She was a child of 13 when she was reported missing.
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Aggressive_Sky84922 days ago
+2
Murdering someone is worse than fantasising about chopping up dead bodies actually
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+4
It wasn't fantasizing when he actually did it...
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clarkedaddy2 days ago
+5
I’m going to have to disagree. But of course it’s no surprise the person with impaler in the name thinks the option with stabbing someone to death is less fucked lmao.
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
+3
At least he didn't proactively murder her in cold blood in that scenario.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+17
I mean if you see a dead body and your first reaction is to chop it up and hide it instead of CPR and 911 it's not like you have empathy or reasoning getting in the way of cold blooded murder.
At least cold blooded murder in this case probably serves a pragmatic reason, as dark as that sounds - she's a witness, I need to kill her. Chopping up an already dead body instead of, I dunno, tossing it in front of the doors to an emergency room and driving off would make me think that person literally sees other people as objects in their environment lol.
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McNasty4202 days ago
+4
It's only a misdemeanor in the state of California to conceal a body after an accidental death.
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CoyoteLitius2 days ago
+2
Mutiliating it is a felony, though. And of course, stabbing someone in the liver is not an accident.
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
-3
I mean, if you were partying and doing illegal stuff with that person who is now dead and you are kinda famous and freak out because they will likely pin this on you, then yeah, he could come up with that as an option to hide what happened.
If you run into a corpse in the forest or an abandoned building, of course you call the cops, you just found it, its not directly your fault that the person died.
-3
pizzaplanetvibes2 days ago
+11
He could try that defense. It doesn’t explain away why he’s hanging out with a 14 year old or in “relationship” with her. He can’t explain that away.
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
+5
Yup, that is why they think that's why he did it.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+18
I'm from the heartland of the heroin epidemic lol
Drug addicts don't need to be famous to panic when someone dies. But outside of the rare meth addict with psychosis who chops up his friend after an overdose, what they usually do is leave the body somewhere and tell someone to call 911 before dipping the f*** out.
An actual overdose doesn't get investigated as a murder.
I don't think you understand psychologically how difficult it is for a stable minded person to chop up a human body. That's not a normal decision. Vast majority of people would actually sooner go to prison than do that I'd imagine.
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
-16
Ok Mr. Expert you are all knowing and you know everything, you are 100% correct in everything and anything.
Happy?
-16
New-Consequence-3551 day ago
+2
Actually, she got chopped up after being stabbed.
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ComfyInDots2 days ago
+28
What's the significance of saying getting stabbed in the liver is an indication of intentional rather than stabbed in the ribs? If any stab wound was intentional then isn't it more likely to be a chest/head wound?
How would investigators know if the liver was targeted vs just a coincidence of an attack?
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DefinitelyNotAliens2 days ago
+15
I'd say it's highly unlikely that he stabbed her in the liver intentionally. Like... okay. She was stabbed in the liver but that just means we went for the torso.
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guntycankles2 days ago
+22
"we"? Found the accomplice, guys.
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Furt_III2 days ago
+1
Right handed attacker from behind.
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yanocupominomb2 days ago
-1
I mean, death by that is pretty nasty, tbh at this point I would rather wait for more details.
-1
Kingofcheeses2 days ago
+2
by accident
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Retireegeorge2 days ago
+1
Super painful yeah?
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Reggie_Popadopoulous2 days ago
+6
No they call it a liver poke or “silent euthanasia”. Can’t feel it at all
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jeetah2 days ago
+978
Why can't they just say stab
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Gymdoctor2 days ago
+206
We use "penetration wound" in healthcare. There are two traumatic injury mechanisms, penetrating wounds and blunt force. Penetration can involve ANYTHING entering the body. Using the word stab makes things less neutral. Its gearing your thought towards a knife or assualt. Stab can also imply intent. Medical judgement is neutral and objective so we keep things simple. Did it pierce the body? Yes? Penetration wound of some origin
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coltrain4232 days ago
+14
So a slash from a blade, as opposed to stabbing, would also be a penetrating wound?
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UnholyGenocide2 days ago
+34
I cant tell if you're being intentionally obtuse, but on the off-chance you're not: I'm pretty sure that would be laceration.
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coltrain4232 days ago
+24
Right, but the person I replied to said that they classify wounds as either “blunt” or “penetrating”. “Laceration” is accurate and definitely more specific, but that’s not one of the “two traumatic injury mechanisms” that are relevant to my question.
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UnholyGenocide2 days ago
+5
Ah, fair enough. I get what you were asking now.
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coltrain4232 days ago
+15
The more I think about it, I suspect that a laceration that’s severe enough to be traumatic would necessarily be a penetrating wound. If it’s not penetrating, then it’s superficial and not traumatic.
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BigThunder30001 day ago
+2
Yeah, but everyday Joe usually only hears penetration referring to only one thing, and that would be a horrible way to die.
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ctorg2 days ago
+367
My understanding is that stab indicates a particular type of movement and weapon (like a blade). Penetrating is more tailored to the type of information that is feasible to gather from a very badly decomposed corpse that was also dismembered postmortem. They know that an object penetrated into her body and caused trauma and blood loss leading to her death. They can’t tell enough about the object to know what it was or whether it was used to stab or ram or if she was pushed onto it, etc.
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ceapaire2 days ago
+123
Probably two-fold:
1) it's not proven that they're stab wounds, as they could have come from other sources, so they just grabbed the coroner's language.
2) it gets more clicks than "apparently/allegedly stabbed".
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bttr-swt2 days ago
+80
"Stab" is too specific and >!her remains were so decomposed that it seemed like it was too difficult to determine what was used to create those wounds!<.
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Routine_Lobster99202 days ago
+6
From a legal perspective that’s not something you can technically claim yet. It’s not proven that she didn’t fall on a knife and impale herself, for example.
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Jarngreipr92 days ago
+6
I guess for the conditions of the body
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FleshLogic2 days ago
+2
St\*b
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skrena2 days ago
+1
Because they don’t actually know. Most articles are saying they couldn’t determine if it was sharp or blunt force trauma.
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jefbenet2 days ago
-29
Doesn’t drive as many clicks.
-29
betafish23452 days ago
+316
This story makes me sick to my stomach. If D4vd did it he needs to rot.
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JoshAllenFan6162 days ago
+439
He definitely did it it’s literally the key and peele skit
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keznaa2 days ago
+131
The circumstantial evidence is f****** insane. I listened to a pod cast about it around the time her body was found and they had to do 2 parts that were almost 2 hrs each. He incriminated himself so much. I can't imagine what hard evidence they gathered over the past 6 months will be.
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NoOccasion47592 days ago
+19
What was the name of the podcast?
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vixenstarlet19492 days ago
+26
im pretty sure they’re talking about rotten mango podcast
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keznaa2 days ago
+8
Yep, wasn't it crazy? I knew nothing about him at the time and I was surprised about all the things he himself put out there. It was so bizarre.
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vixenstarlet19491 day ago
+2
I was new to the case when i listened to it and it blew my mind. Hes such a f****** idiot
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McNasty4202 days ago
+2
If he stabbed her in that house, there is going to be blood clean up everywhere under a UV light.
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keznaa1 day ago
+1
He rented the house that was searched 6 months ago so you are probably right. If he was gonna do that, it would be in a rental. That said, therr is so much weird shit going on with this case even before he was arrested that it wouldn't be surprising if where she was killed wasn't as straight forward as expected. Like watch it be during one of his concerts somehow.
1
RodneyBalling2 days ago
+2
Yeah. So many people knew that he was dating her and nobody bothered to say "Hey, stop seeing her until she turns 18 (or 16 depending on the state). 5yrs of patience will save your career and spare you jail time."
Instead, they joked around with them, accepted gifts from him, and helped to sneak her into his concerts.
2
jghall002 days ago
+1
Key points from the podcast?
They can put him under the prison.
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keznaa2 days ago
+2
D4vd needs to stop posting his alledged crimes on social media and stop making music about his obsession with Celeste lol
2
windflex2 days ago
+87
Rip Darnell Simmons
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Formal-Stage9402 days ago
+7
Stroke my chin real slow when im lying
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drunk_cow12341 day ago
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
1
redloin2 days ago
+13
Gun Rack was set up, it was Darnell's girlfriend.
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SpiritedAirline40442 days ago
+22
In the back of my car
You died
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drunk_cow12341 day ago
+1
“It’s a concept album…”
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LuminousJaeSoul2 days ago
+15
40 terabytes of evidence
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bttr-swt2 days ago
+102
The music video for his song "Rehab" is animated and shows a girl being killed in a similar manner to what happened to Celeste, with the dismemberment as well. It's at the 2:22 mark and the scene coincides with the lyrics:
>>!We gotta get apart for now!<
>!'Cause it's obvious!<
>!You don't feel the same as you did the other day!<
>!Where'd we go wrong, I see it now!<
I don't believe it's okay to use an artist's work as evidence of their crime because it falls under the First Amendment... but his work reads like a confession and it was known that this girl was this psycho's "muse", so to speak.
I would genuinely be surprised if it comes out that David Burke did not do this because everything we know points to the idea that he did... But we'll let the justice system do its thing and pray they get it right.
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98Kane2 days ago
+57
Rap snitches, tellin' all their business.
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
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Quotizmo2 days ago
+8
Play it for the jury, defendant and the plaintiff, court reporter and the bailiff,
Play it for the jury, defendant and the plaintiff, court reporter and the bailiff.
--Gangstalicious
The Boondocks
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ogrestomp2 days ago
+8
For real, almost literally
“Do you see the perpetrator?””Yeah I’m right here”-type shit
8
betafish23452 days ago
+31
That's insane. I can't bring myself to listen to any of his music, it's just so upsetting to me. I'm saying 'if' because we don't know 100% for sure and I want the justice system to take care of it but let's be real.
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DefinitelyNotAliens2 days ago
+23
There's actually laws about using lyrics as evidence in court in California. You can't just admit them as evidence.
Too many people were basically being convicted on the jury judging them as violent because of rap lyrics, and it disproportionately affected young black and Latino men. Eminem wrote a lot of fucked up things, too, but he never did time for it. We know his were a persona.
California requires a pretrial hearing on the lyrics or other artistic depictions where they have to show the work contains non-public knowledge, was created around the time of the crime, contain distinct similarities, etc. "pulled a 9mm on that m***********" isn't exactly "distinct". It's a common lyric. It's not linked to a specific instance. They also have to weigh undue prejudice, racial bias, poisoning the jury into thinking the person is inherently violent, etc. Lyrics are predominantly used against black men and actually have a massive impact on juries.
Judges also have to hear testimony from experts based on peer-reviewed data and the jury can't be present for the hearing.
Too many SoundCloud rappers going to prison over grandstanding rappers trying to sound tough and doing longer sentences for their perception as being dangerous and violent over artistic expressions.
Over 80% of juries ruled lyrics admissable, but the majority of those 80% were rap lyrics, and juries find them very compelling. Thus, California restricting them.
Cases of innocent people going to prison over basically zero evidence and proof they write violent lyrics did happen.
Unless a song was written after her murder, it's highly unlikely and of his lyrics will be admitted as evidence under current rules, and it makes sense why. If you can't secure a conviction without song lyrics, your case is ass.
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neep_pie2 days ago
+18
>Eminem wrote a lot of fucked up things, too, but he never did time for it.
Kind of not the point? Nobody said people should be prosecuted just for lyrics. If Eminem made a song called "I'd really like to shoot some dude named Phil" and then he came under suspicion for other reasons of shooting a guy named Phil, yeah, then it would be relevant. Maybe I'm wrong but are you saying there are cases of people being prosecuted for crimes simply based on lyrics without any other reasons to be suspected?
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adenosine-52 days ago
-3
Sounds like the lesson learned should have been "Don't intentionally try to appear like a criminal or say you committed crimes, if you don't want people to think you are a criminal or commited crimes".
-3
Coriolanuscangetit2 days ago
+2
That music video came out in 2023, but she died in 2025…..would that prove any sort of premeditation?
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normanbeets2 days ago
+10
He did it
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mackdaddyjonah2 days ago
+6
40 Tb of evidence… I don’t think it’s an “if”
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reddorickt2 days ago
+3
That's crazy... It's got to be raw uncompressed video files or something right? What could you even do to amass 40 tb of evidence against you for a single murder?
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Ok_Proposal_3211 day ago
+3
A lot of that is probably data from the Tesla, tbh
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IvanNemoy2 days ago
+15
That *if* is carrying a lot of weight mate.
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Zeeplankton2 days ago
+1
I think it was Vice or something, but did a short video about him and his family, like a year before all this happened. He seemed so normal, good family. It's so creepy.
edit: nevermind, it was on his channel. Presented by spotify
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bttr-swt2 days ago
+12
Media release from LA County's DA Office: [link](https://da.lacounty.gov/media/news/singer-d4vd-charged-capital-murder-14-year-old-girl)
Copies of the actual ME report are floating around Listnook, but I won't link them even though I read them. I'm horrified and so sad for this girl.
Preliminary hearing is tomorrow.
I have a lot of thoughts about this case, but I want to believe that this is going to be an instance where our justice system works and a terrible monster gets the punishment he deserves.
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Ok-disaster20222 days ago
+163
So if people don't know her body was found in an advanced stage of decomposition so it made determining cause of death more difficult. It sounds stupid but people will cover up a accidental death as much as they'll cover up a murder
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Nvnv_man2 days ago
+66
Right, bc if she died accidentally, like impaled somehow, he’s still on the hook for all sorts of crimes, like kidnapping, interference, contributing to delinquency, providing substances, sexual solicitation, various child sex crimes.
This poor girl, she tried to escape the bad home situation and walked into another one.
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Salohacin2 days ago
+42
There's a body farm in Texas (and various other states) that studies decomposition and has helped solve crimes based on people who have donated their bodies towards it.
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Felon_musk19392 days ago
+18
There's one in Canada too. They put bodies in submerged vehicles to help determine how long a dead person was in a vehicle. I was told that because of all the preservatives people eat now we actually decompose slower.
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goosoe2 days ago
+9
Are we f****** pickled?
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Felon_musk19392 days ago
+5
I guess so. Put me down for garlic and herbs
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Fast-Artichoke-4082 days ago
+59
Why don't people just use his real name, drop that stupid moniker already.
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milkandhoneycomb2 days ago
+96
they used the most recognizable name in headlines because "david burke charged for murder" isn't a useful headline. they do say his real name in the article
> The 21-year-old alt-pop singer D4vd, whose legal name is David Burke, was charged in the killing Monday.
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highdiver_20002 days ago
+27
David Burke.
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tetzy2 days ago
+21
Imagine killing a girl, dismembering her and loading her into your trunk to dispose of the evidence only to have the car towed because you parked illegally when you stopped for coffee.
Ooof.
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Saratoninn692 days ago
+24
Worse. He left the car abandoned on his street and then left for his tour.
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Which-Decision2 days ago
+9
He tried to pretend the car was stolen so it looked like whoever stole the car killed her.
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Saratoninn692 days ago
+16
There was no police report and he ditched the Tesla for the final time literal minutes before getting on the tour bus. The guy is a certified psychopath.
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highdiver_20001 day ago
+6
Why is a 14 year old hanging out with a 21 year old?
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bttr-swt1 day ago
+15
He began grooming her when they met on Discord when she was 11. Every time she ran away from home, it is assumed that she ran away to be with him, since there are many people who spotted them together and his inner circle was aware that they were in a relationship.
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USDXBS2 days ago
+39
I predict he gets a couple years in prison and the charge is some bullshit "aggravated misadventure with a knife that ended in an accidental oopsie daisy"
I've lost all faith in the justice system.
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bttr-swt2 days ago
+159
He's being charged of 3 things:
1. murder with special circumstances
1. lying in wait (he lured her to his house)
2. financial gain (to protect his music career)
3. silencing a witness (she threatened to tell the police about their sexual relationship)
2. continuous sexual abuse of a minor
3. mutilating a corpse
I don't think any of this is going to get him just 2 years in prison. There's also about 40 TB of evidence against him.
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blobblet2 days ago
+15
Defendants sometimes take plea deals pleading guilty to lesser charges. Not saying that is going to happen here, but that's likely what the previous commenter predicted.
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No_Economist37882 days ago
+35
yea, the plea deal will get him life in prison instead of a death sentence.
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olmoscd2 days ago
+7
in California? isnt that where the trial is
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No_Economist37882 days ago
+9
California still has death row - they just have a moratorium on carrying out executions.
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CoyoteLitius2 days ago
And since the scandal eliminated the Democrat's front runner, the possible new governor is pro-DP.
0
RellenD2 days ago
+6
Why would the state offer him a deal in this case?
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CoyoteLitius2 days ago
+4
I'm thinking the same.
I think they're going to want the trial, to get all of it out in front of the public and make a huge lesson out of him.
Sentencing will be up to a judge.
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TadpoleOfDoom2 days ago
+2
Saves them money, not having to continue the prosecution.
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RellenD2 days ago
+2
Unless he just wants to plea and get life instead of an imaginary death sentence or something, there's no plea here that will be possible.
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CoyoteLitius2 days ago
+3
California technically still has the DP.
He is facing an incoming Republican governor (in theory) and it's only because of Gavin Newsome that the DP has been suspended for this length of time. I think Jerry Brown also avoided using it, can't remember.
So, that'll probably be used in the plea bargain.
OTOH, it might go to trial. He likes publicity. I don't think the jury will be kind or merciful to him. This is a heinous crime against a child.
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Coriolanuscangetit2 days ago
+1
For them to have evidence of luring, I wonder if they were able to get text messages from her phone?
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Professional-Ad38741 day ago
+3
they can easily get those from the phone carriers tbey used.
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bttr-swt1 day ago
+2
His phone was presented in court today and it had CSAM on it. Unknown if it was Celeste and/or other children.
People should be aware by now that deleting texts or even Discord messages doesn’t erase it all completely.
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Chip_Hazard2 days ago
+26
Why are you predicting stuff that’s already happened he’s been charged with murder that’s in the title of this post lol
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CoyoteLitius2 days ago
+5
I think he'll get a much longer sentence.
I predict life without possibility of parole.
The special circumstances, already posted here, are at least 3. There could be more.
Some people who "used to know him" are going to turn state's witnesses, is my prediction.
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DefinitelyNotAliens2 days ago
+10
Just his sex abuse charge is a minimum of six years in prison, up to sixteen. There are likely other sex crimes that will be added on later, too. He had a minor living with him for a while and abused her since she was 10 years old and then killed her.
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grafknives2 days ago
+3
I hope she will get justice. But case doesnt look easy, unless they got somebody to talk.
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BigThunder30001 day ago
+2
While being murdered is horrible, using the term “penetrating wound” sounds much more torturous than just saying being stabbed.
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pizdolizu1 day ago
+2
The title is giving me a headache.
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bttr-swt1 day ago
+1
That’s the AP News headline. 😩 All other links were unusable because everyone has a paywall.
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Cool_Lab_136222 hr ago
+1
F***, click baity titles
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Puma_Pounce2 days ago
-1
Where were this girls parents? I just don't understand how she was able to spend so much time with that piece of shit. Like her parents didn't wonder where she was when she was staying at his place? Like how did she come to meet him and spend so much time alone with him at such a young age without parents being aware?
Or were her parents allowing him around her?
-1
RodneyBalling2 days ago
+9
There are a few podcasts and youtube videos that analyze this case. It's confirmed that the family knew that she was dating someone named David, how much they knew or approved/disapproved past that is unknown/heresay.
She was a frequent run away and they often reported her missing. She would skip school for weeks to follow him on his tours. There are pics of him in her school parking lot (presumably picking her up from school) and giving gifts (or bribes) to her schoolmates.
They met online (fortnite I think) when she was 10 and him 16. Then they chatted/dated on discord. Once he became famous, they started hiding their online interactions, but those who were in the know knew that they were talking about each other. There are references to her in his songs. There's at least one recording of a livestream they did together, where she jokes about how he was statutory raping her.
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DapperAdam1 day ago
Stupidest headline I have ever seen.
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Sinfullyvannila2 days ago
-33
Not to be that guy, but it's "whom" when the person is the subject.
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SombraRanma2 days ago
+25
Ryan used me as an object.
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worldsbestbrat2 days ago
+4
yeah i have a lot of questions number one, how dare you?
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