That’s a lot of streets that might have to be renamed….
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WENUS_envyMar 18, 2026
+1356
And a bunch of schools too
1356
blr1gMar 18, 2026
+149
LMAO, I'm literally working at a middle school right now named after the dude.
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Obvious_Front_2377Mar 19, 2026
+16
I think we need to quit naming streets, buildings and schools after people.
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nothinnewsMar 19, 2026
+50
Please push for it to be renamed TrumpisintheEpsteinFiles Middle School.
50
colinisthereasonMar 19, 2026
+11
The mascot is now the Fighting Allegations
11
WitnessLanky682Mar 18, 2026
+33
GIANT statue of him at my first uni (I transferred). SoCal Chicano community is about to go through a cultural reckoning
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After_Ride9911Mar 18, 2026
+18
I think Adam West high is still up for grabs.
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RamBamBooeyMar 18, 2026
+212
Yep:
Trump Kennedy Center
Prince Andrew Way (Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland)
Prince Andrew Road/Close (Maidenhead, Berkshire)
Prince Andrew Drive (Telford, Shropshire): A road in Malinslee.
Prince Andrew Drive (Stotfold, Bedfordshire): A road named in his honor.
Prince Andrew’s Road/Close (Norwich, Norfolk): Located in Hellesdon.
Prince Andrew Road (Broadstairs, Kent): Road named after the Prince.
Prince Andrew Island (Ontario, Canada)
Clinton School of Public Service of the University of Arkansas
William Jefferson Clinton Elementary School, Paramount, California
William Jefferson Clinton Middle School, Historic South Central Los Angeles
William J. Clinton Elementary School, La Joya, Texas
William Jefferson Clinton Primary School, Hope, Arkansas
John F. Kennedy School of Government of Harvard University
John F. Kennedy University
John F. Kennedy College, Wahoo, Nebraska
John F. Kennedy High School (disambiguation)
President Kennedy School, a coeducational secondary school and sixth form with academy status in Coventry, England
Kennedy Middle School (disambiguation)
John F. Kennedy Elementary School, Keizer, Oregon
Kennedy Elementary, Medford, Oregon
John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
John F. Kennedy Middle School, Cupertino, California
John F Kennedy Elementary School, Penitas, Texas
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100th_meridianMar 18, 2026
+128
There is a high school in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia named Prince Andrew High School but it was renamed in 2019 (after initial Epstein links) to Woodlawn High School.
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elacmchMar 18, 2026
+43
Yeah, and [the township of Selywn](https://torontolife.com/city/an-ontario-township-has-voted-to-rename-two-islands-honouring-the-former-prince-andrew/) in Ontario has started the process of renaming those islands.
Nice username btw.
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sittinwithkittenMar 19, 2026
+9
Where the Great Plains begin
9
BrobeastMar 18, 2026
+18
So uh, do you condemn Chavez or not?
18
-LuroMar 18, 2026
+13
Wexner Medical Center. Wexner center for the arts. Les Wexner Football complex.
13
06kurtzMar 18, 2026
+77
Why rename buildings named after JFK?
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SirHeraldMar 19, 2026
+6
Just for kicks
6
IAgreeWithLincolnMar 18, 2026
+163
None of these are named after Cesar Chavez... I think you're looking for a different thread
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elacmchMar 18, 2026
+112
Did they think this was some kind of brilliant "gotcha"? Is this not a textbook example of "whataboutism"? Cesar Chavez is posthumously accused of pervasive sexual abuse and OP is like haha yeah but what about Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, and JFK???
I don't know about Bill Clinton and JFK btw, it seems Prince Andrew is much more credibly accused of sexual abuse with minors than those guys.
Also - [Prince Andrew Island in Ontario](https://torontolife.com/city/an-ontario-township-has-voted-to-rename-two-islands-honouring-the-former-prince-andrew/) has already begun the processing of renaming.
What point are they making?
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MedlarmarmadukeMar 18, 2026
+30
That grooming was/is endemic by powerful men in our society- royalty, union heroes, political heavyweights and if we take this seriously- a lot of places will have to be renamed
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elacmchMar 18, 2026
+19
I appreciate your answer. OP's comment just didn't come across very well to me. Also, I don't know that any of what JFK or Clinton did constitutes "grooming" so it seems like a false equivalence to me.
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mortgagepantsMar 18, 2026
+5
damn you seem really sure about bill clinton.
5
CommonSensei-_Mar 18, 2026
+4
Wait…. Why do JFK things need to be re named?!?!?!
4
Swimming_Amount_5021Mar 19, 2026
+5
What the f*** is this response? Why JFK?
5
Open-Industry-8396Mar 18, 2026
+688
thats why the victim came forward. They were going to name a street near her home afetr him. Imagine your abuser getting a street named afetr him near your house. Good for her. If true, f*** that guy, scumbag.
688
uprightedisonMar 18, 2026
+183
Or get elected president
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AKSupplyLifeMar 18, 2026
+61
We certainly hold progressives to different standards than we do conservatives. In a debate class about 10 years ago in college I laughed when the guy speaking used Sarah Palin as an example of how Republicans can no longer claim to the be the party of family values. He would have a lot more ammo these days.
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edwsmithMar 18, 2026
+39
That is an interesting typo to happen twice
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IsItBurnMar 18, 2026
+20
If the phone saved it as typed then they’re gonna be saying afetr long after your comment.
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AntarcticScaleWormMar 18, 2026
+337
Just rename them with Dolores Huerta’s name, should be pretty easy
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CralliseMar 18, 2026
+223
Even better, name them after plants or animals or something. Schools don't need to be named after people.
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SometimesAllthetime1Mar 18, 2026
+98
I wish I could have gone to Tyrannosaurus Rex Middle School as a kid.
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CralliseMar 18, 2026
+27
See! Kids would love that shit.
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gimpwizMar 18, 2026
+14
Imagine being 8 and finding out you go to Tyrannosaurus Rex and the buddy you just made at the park goes to Stegosaurus across town.
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AnthonyJuniorsPPMar 19, 2026
+5
Even the mascots would be better, I'm tired of big cats and soldiers being mascots, lets get more dinosaur representation!
5
Winged_Cougar1993598Mar 18, 2026
+24
Then we could have a school called Acanthonus armatus School, and that would be awesome.
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CralliseMar 18, 2026
+5
Their mascot should use the common name
5
LPmassMar 18, 2026
+9
Tit Mouse High
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CralliseMar 18, 2026
+12
Let's go Titmice, let's go!
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uprightedisonMar 18, 2026
+29
Disturbing news as she came forward as victim as well
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onarainyafternoonMar 18, 2026
+41
I think that's why that commenter wrote her name lol.....
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RevN3Mar 18, 2026
+28
Sure, until 10 years from now it turns out she's a cannibal or some shit. How about we stop naming things after fallible humans?
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kaisadilla_Mar 18, 2026
+18
I don't think it's a good idea to cancel all humans forever because some may turn out to be bad. I don't see a problem in correcting names when new info comes out. For years, César Chávez has been a hero for many people - if now he turns out to be a sexual abuser, we can remove his name from any honorary place. It's not a big deal, and it's way better than assuming everyone may be evil because that's how actually evil people win.
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LandownsMar 18, 2026
+74
In Austin we'd probably just rename Cesar Chavez St to 1st St, which it logically should be anyway, but 1st St is already taken by the street that bisects Cesar Chavez St running north to south, for some reason
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RakastaakissaMar 18, 2026
+24
That’s not 1st street, it’s South 1st. They probably should rename it though.
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Pale_Willingness_562Mar 18, 2026
+54
In Portland they changed 39th ave to Cesar Chavez. it is a major road. hopefully it will be changed back to 39th ave. all the other roads still have numbers. it was a foolish idea to begin with
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TheseusOPLMar 18, 2026
+38
When they were proposing changing 39th to Cesar Chavez, there was a petition to change 42nd to Douglas Adams.
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monkeychasedweaselMar 18, 2026
+8
I'm a couple miles from Cesar E. Chavez Blvd. I hope it is renamed Cesar Romero Blvd., or perhaps Extremo The Clown Blvd, in honor of a local hero.
Actually, it should be up to the many people who live and work on the street, since they'll be filling out several dozen change of address forms for a second time in 20 years.
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KytynMar 18, 2026
+9
It *was* 1st St before it was Cesar Chavez. Just like Dean Keeton was 26th and MLK was 19th (though that one was before my time)
And like the other poster said - the intersecting street is SOUTH 1st. Totally different. 😆
Personally I think they shouldn’t rename streets after people. Name buildings or bridges or new streets - but changing names is annoying af.
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Massive_Bullfrog8663Mar 18, 2026
+4
In San Jose, a really cool downtown park...
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SarcasticGamerMar 18, 2026
+39
Our stupid city just renamed one of the oldest streets to Cesar Chavez Blvd so it would be absolutely hilarious if they had to change it back especially when most of the residents and businesses opposed it.
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rawbert10Mar 18, 2026
+4
I propose we rename the streets, schools etc after Dolores Huerta as to not loose sight of the movement itself. Chavez is a POS we know that and those of us who read and dig already knew that long before this moment. But the movement can't be lost, the history can't be diminished based on one individuals actions. The battle, blood, sweat and tears of the thousands of workers must remain in tact.
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jcrckstdyMar 18, 2026
+3
Remame them to Larry Itliong
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the-mighty-kiraMar 18, 2026
+3
This is one of the reasons medicine is moving away from naming things after people
3
ObligationAware3755Mar 18, 2026
+476
Posting Dolores Huerta (a co-founder of UFW along with Caesar Chavez)'s statement today:
March 18, 2026
Today, civil rights leader Dolores Huerta issued the following statement:
“I am nearly 96 years old, and for the last 60 years have kept a secret because I believed that exposing the truth would hurt the farmworker movement I have spent my entire life fighting for.
I have encouraged people to always use their voice. Following the New York Times’ multi-year investigation into sexual misconduct by Cesar Chavez, I can no longer stay silent and must share my own experiences.
As a young mother in the 1960s, I experienced two separate sexual encounters with Cesar. The first time I was manipulated and pressured into having sex with him, and I didn’t feel I could say no because he was someone that I admired, my boss and the leader of the movement I had already devoted years of my life to. The second time I was forced, against my will, and in an environment where I felt trapped.
I had experienced abuse and sexual violence before, and I convinced myself these were incidents that I had to endure alone and in secret. Both sexual encounters with Cesar led to pregnancies. I chose to keep my pregnancies secret and, after the children were born, I arranged for them to be raised by other families that could give them stable lives.
Over the years, I have been fortunate to develop a deep relationship with these children, who are now close to my other children, their siblings. But even then, no one knew the full truth about how they were conceived until just a few weeks ago.
I carried this secret for as long as I did because building the movement and securing farmworker rights was my life’s work. The formation of a union was the only vehicle to accomplish and secure those rights and I wasn’t going to let Cesar or anyone else get in the way. I channeled everything I had into advocating on behalf of millions of farmworkers and others who were suffering and deserved equal rights.
I have never identified myself as a victim, but I now understand that I am a survivor — of violence, of sexual abuse, of domineering men who saw me, and other women, as property, or things to control.
I am telling my story because the New York Times has indicated that I was not the only one — there were others. Women are coming forward, sharing that they were sexually abused and assaulted by Cesar when they were girls and teenagers.
The knowledge that he hurt young girls sickens me. My heart aches for everyone who suffered alone and in silence for years. There are no words strong enough to condemn those deplorable actions that he did. Cesar’s actions do not reflect the values of our community and our movement.
The farmworker movement has always been bigger and far more important than any one individual. Cesar’s actions do not diminish the permanent improvements achieved for farmworkers with the help of thousands of people. We must continue to engage and support our community, which needs advocacy and activism now more than ever.
I will continue my commitments to workers, as well as my commitment to women’s rights, to make sure we have a voice and that our communities are treated with dignity and given the equity that they have so long been denied.
I have kept this secret long enough. My silence ends here."
If you are a survivor or if you have been impacted by any type of sexual violence, please visit the Dolores Huerta Foundation website, where you will find a list of resources for support.
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MartinRaccoonMar 20, 2026
+8
Just rename the schools, parks, streets, etc. After her. She seems to be just as involved with the movement as anyone.
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CyborgTigerMar 18, 2026
+1335
My company, about to put out an education product featuring Chavez: 🫥
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jubileevdebsMar 18, 2026
+610
These allegations are new but if you read a modern biography / history of the UFW, like Miriam Pawell’s “A Union of Their Dreams” youd know that Chavez made it a point to wrest control of the union from its Filipino founders, kicked out anyone who identified as socialist, hired volunteers to physically kidnap and deport undocumented workers, and then built a psychological torture arena at his compound in Salinas, CA to “retrain and discipline” his staff based on the method he learned from the founder of the rehab cult, Synanon.
https://cceps-blog.library.claremont.edu/2019/10/18/the_game/
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/07/the-madness-of-cesar-chavez/308557/
https://dissentmagazine.org/article/shattered-dreams/
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shadow-foxeMar 18, 2026
+165
and yet Salinas named a library after this dude. I never understood why. Where is all the things named after Dolores who did just as much as he did.
Power corrupts is such a true thing.
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jubileevdebsMar 18, 2026
+99
The grape boycott brought national attention to a civil rights issue (farmworkers were not protected by the NLRA and lacked all rights) and this happened within the context of the Chicano Moratorium and Cesar became associated with that - and so govt place- naming conventions that included mlk and malcom x included him as a “latino” (term not used much back then) equivalent.
Plus there was such a patriarchal culture of “Stand By Your Man; and if you cant keep up, then just shut up and stand behind him.”
Dolores Huerta did not deserve to be groomed and assaulted. She was absolutely aware of the psychological torture stuff and also participated in it. All senior UFW partook in it when it rolled out. It made many people uncomfortable but the impetus was to “trust Cesar” and to defend the union against infiltration and enemies (which tbf was a legitimate threat after the 1st grape boycott succeeded). Ive seen Huerta speak publicly several times and she spoke proudly of knowing Chavez.
This hits differently knowing about the grooming but as anyone who’s actually worked inside of a union with personnel ties to the UFW (places like UNITE HERE or SEIU), theres often a very command and control culture and an expectation of machista self-sacrifice that borders/spills into bullying and gang stalking other organizers to keep them in line.
Chavez was a creep. But the original sin isn’t just “bad man César”. It’s blind faith in “the big man” and dutifully fulfilling his whims to feel close to power, even when it makes your stomach.
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shadow-foxeMar 18, 2026
+48
ive lived in Salinas, and been a member of SEIU. I met Dolores around 18 years ago at a save the libraries rally.
I do agree the blind faith is an issue in these things. Its very cult like in some ways
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kensai8Mar 18, 2026
+18
I'd go far as to say Chavez was a cult leader. He even started losing touch with reality at the end, becoming increasingly suspicious of everyone around him.
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DakiLapinMar 18, 2026
+18
Yeah, I think the ultimate lesson is that we can't have "big man" movements because they ultimately get tainted when information like this comes out. Plus anyone who wants to be "the" leader is suspect anyway and likely to be engaging in all manner of abuse of power.
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that-mattg-lifeMar 19, 2026
+4
Our fascination with people needs to stop.
We need to be fascinated with ideas.
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Helpful-Lab2702Mar 18, 2026
+26
Damn now that's juicy. Waiting for the lifetime movie on Chavez now.
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Mend1cantMar 18, 2026
+30
His men would come out to my grandparents’ farm and beat the farmhands until they agreed to join or until they were put into the hospital.
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Good_Conclusion8867Mar 18, 2026
+7
This is the story i heard. I am from the San Joaquin Valley.
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royale_wthCheEsEMar 18, 2026
+119
D’oh !
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Yes_YoureSpartacusMar 18, 2026
+37
Better before than immediately after
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snoogins355Mar 18, 2026
+28
Go with the Caesar salad! Pivot!
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slashinhobo1Mar 18, 2026
+3
on product, be like chavez. Eh, just don't read what he did when he wasn't in front of people.
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brewerycastMar 18, 2026
+3
Same. Team went into panic today
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rnilfMar 18, 2026
+2987
> His most prominent female ally in the movement, Dolores Huerta, said in an interview that he sexually assaulted her, a disclosure she has never before made publicly.
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> Ms. Huerta, who was 36 at the time, said she chose not to report the assault to the police because of their hostility toward the movement, and she feared that no one within the union would believe her.
Dolores Huerta is the creator of "Sí, se puede" btw. When someone as powerful as her feels powerless to do something about her abuser, you know the problem runs deep.
So many women and literal children victimized, horrible.
But to be clear, only stupid people would allow the actions of a single evil man to diminish something as important as the civil rights movement.
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ikesMar 18, 2026
+931
To your last point, there is a quote on the Times article:
“It makes you rethink in history all those heroes,” Ms. Lopez said. “The movement — that’s the hero.”
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Michael_G_BordinMar 18, 2026
+237
I always tell folks, "Follow ideas, not people." I don't have a favorite philosopher, or favorite artist, or favorite political leader. I have ideas I love, works of art I adore, and political movements I support. People are flawed creatures, capable of good and bad. Heroes will disappoint you. But a movement can be so much bigger than the person or people who lead it.
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BravestWabbitMar 18, 2026
+52
And MLK was a serial cheater. Still doesnt detract from what he accomplished.
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Diplomatic-ImmunityiMar 18, 2026
+112
Being a pedophile and rapists is quite different to being a guy that cheats on your wife…..
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citkomlMar 18, 2026
+83
The article also says that she had two of his children, hid the pregnancies and gave the children up.
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bbmarvelluvMar 18, 2026
+41
In another sub, people were blaming her for ending up with his brother and having his brother’s kids. So it *must* mean she’s lying about this.
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ZipBoxerMar 18, 2026
+588
She should have been the actual hero of the movement. Chavez was a piece of shit for a myriad of reasons
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sweet_pea95Mar 18, 2026
+559
designating a “hero of the movement” is how Cesar Chavez was able to abuse so many women and girls without consequences
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arbutus1440Mar 18, 2026
+81
Sure, but people are people: They need narratives/heroes/rallying cries. No movement is ever successful without plenty of sound bites, figureheads, and motivational oversimplifications. That's not an indictment or complaint, it's just a fact. Every new movement is deeply flawed and relies on building a story that's "mostly true."
And if that's disillusioning to anyone, congratulations: You've now experienced the same feeling that's felt by every single person who's ever taken the fight for justice seriously. The real "heroes" are the ones who get over it and still keep fighting. It will never be perfect, and it will never be easy. But it will be worth it.
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Porkrind710Mar 18, 2026
+102
Kill your idols. People are all imperfect and will always let you down.
The movement and the policies are what matter. Turning every political movement into hero worship and popularity contests is part of what attracts narcissistic abusers to them in the first place.
“Great man” politics is inherently right-wing/fascist-leaning anyway. Politics is about everyone, not just the most charismatic.
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SmokingMan305Mar 18, 2026
+65
>"Great man" politics is inherently right-wing/fascist-leaning anyway
Bullshit. Every f****** Communist country on the planet created a cult of personality around their leaders that would make Trump blush. Even the average Marxist treats Marx's outdated economic ideas as religious dogma.
Human beings have a natural inclination to simplify history and current events. They want good guys and bad guys because that's easy to emotionally process and feels good. Reality is usually more boring, random, immoral, and stupid. The entire reason political ideologies exist is because it's easier to just paint in broad strokes than actually deal with reality.
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Netherese_NomadMar 18, 2026
+23
Bet you that guy has worn a “Che” t-shirt.
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gonewild9676Mar 18, 2026
+88
Che was too. He ran reeducation camps for gay men in Cuba to turn them into real men.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-you-gay-che-guevara-would-have-sent-you-to-a-concentration_b_59cc0d9ee4b0b99ee4a9ca1e
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tubawhateverMar 18, 2026
+48
Che contributed to the culture of machismo but couldn't have run those camps because he left Cuba before they were established. There's little evidence of his personal homophobia beyond writing in his diary that he met a man who was "probably gay" but he and his friends liked the man who he called a "pervert".
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cuentaderanaMar 18, 2026
+43
It’s always women and children who suffer behind the scenes. I am Mexican-American and a woman. Our contribution to the movement is often forgotten. Latinas worked in the fields and the sheds. They did the cooking, cleaning, and laundry. They did clerical work and emotional labor. They took care of the children. And they suffered at the hands of the men who were supposed to love them and who claimed to fight for them.
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meatlazer720Mar 18, 2026
+28
>only stupid people would allow the actions of a single evil man to diminish something as important as the civil rights movement.
Have ya met humanity?
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[deleted]Mar 18, 2026
+22
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DoitforRCMar 18, 2026
+532
Growing up as an American of Mexican descent in California, I knew how Chavez was character wise thanks to my family. I was always puzzled how he achieved icon status, especially with how his personal views on immigration were. Needless to say, these new “allegations” don’t surprise me in the least bit.
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princesskate04Mar 18, 2026
+291
My dad always spoke negatively about him; said he treated women poorly. I guess he was right!
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Watabeast07Mar 18, 2026
+56
Same, I think the fact that you and I probably heard more about him than the average American so our perception was different. We managed to learn more about him and how much of a piece of shit he really was.
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act1v1s1nl0v3rMar 18, 2026
+121
Yep, white Californian here, it never came up growing up but everyone I knew of Mexican descent all said they either didn't like the guy or heard he sucked. I didn't have any experience with it so I just filed it away but hearing this headline pretty much corroborates what I've heard elsewhere.
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Helpful-Lab2702Mar 18, 2026
+37
I was raised in a community where a vast majority were kids born to undocumented mexican parents. Early 2000s, and we still never head anything bad about him. Instead we read books and talked him up. Such a bummer.
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LasVegasNerd28Mar 18, 2026
+72
Yep. Grew up in SoCal. I’m white but like… these rumors were um… well known? Like my mom told me years ago that while he did a lot of good, he was a piece of shit person.
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MalieCAMar 18, 2026
+34
My great-Uncle (white guy) worked closely with Chavez in the Bay Area and had pictures of him on his walls. I saw them during his funeral reception and Chavez was mentioned several times during the funeral itself. I should have known he was a POS since my uncle was reportedly a POS as well!!
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P99163Mar 18, 2026
+24
What were his views on immigration? He didn't favor illegal immigration due to protectionist reasons similar to Bernie Sanders?
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Mexican802Mar 18, 2026
+44
He basically saw them as scabs because farmers would employ undocumented workers if union members were on strike. UFW also started a campaign to report undocumented workers to the INS and they informally put together a "patrol" group that would catch and beat up undocumented people as they tried to cross the border. These workers were also being exploited, perhaps even more so, but to Chavez their presence and willingness to take low wage jobs was hurting his movement.
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IrateSkeletonMar 18, 2026
+34
I wonder if he's only venerated to justify those views on immigration. That's literally the only context Chavez is ever brought up anyway. Just seems convenient. He's like Gandhi he loved nonviolence and Catholic social teaching, that's why he sent the Wet Lines to beat up migrants and why you should support that too.
I wonder if us finally taking immigration seriously has helped the farm worker organizers.
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ezioaltair12Mar 18, 2026
+8
>That's literally the only context Chavez is ever brought up anyway
Is it? I feel like I've exclusively heard of him as the man who built Latino political power and as a titan of labor history.
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Common-Window-2613Mar 19, 2026
+4
His views on (illegal) immigration were sound considering who he represented. During strikes, illegal immigrants would cross lines and work. The were the enemy of legal workers and unfortunately, still are. They hurt the poor working class which the left finds it difficult to reconcile.
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MeiyouxiangjiaoMar 18, 2026
+46
[Non-paywall link](https://archive.ph/2026.03.18-163907/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/18/us/cesar-chavez-sexual-abuse-allegations-ufw.html)
> Ana Murguia remembers the day the man she had regarded as a hero called her house and summoned her to see him. She walked along a dirt trail, entered the rundown building, passed his secretary and stepped into his office.
> He locked the door, as he always did when he called her, and told her how lonely he had been. He brought her onto the yoga mat that he often used in his office for meditation, kissed her and pulled her pants down. “Don’t tell anyone,” he told her afterward. “They’d get jealous.”
> The man, Cesar Chavez, one of the most revered figures in the Latino civil rights movement, was 45. She was 13. Ms. Murguia said she was summoned for sexual encounters with him dozens of times over the next four years.
Recently, more than 50 years later, Ms. Murguia learned that a street near her home in the Central California city of Bakersfield was in the process of being renamed. City officials want to name it in honor of her abuser.
> Ms. Murguia and another woman, Debra Rojas, say that Mr. Chavez sexually abused them for years when they were girls, from around 1972 to 1977. He was in his 40s and had become a powerful, charismatic figure who captured global attention as a champion of farmworker rights.
The two women have not shared their stories publicly before, and an investigation by The New York Times has uncovered extensive evidence to support their accusations and those raised by several other women against Mr. Chavez, the United Farm Workers co-founder who died in 1993 at the age of 66.
> The questions raised by The Times about Mr. Chavez, one of the most consequential figures in Mexican American history, set off immediate reverberations and alarmed and disturbed his allies. Even before this article was published, upon learning of the reporters’ inquiries, the U.F.W. canceled its annual celebrations honoring Mr. Chavez, a response to what the union he once led called “profoundly shocking” accusations.
> Ms. Murguia and Ms. Rojas, both of whom are now 66, were the daughters of longtime organizers who had marched in rallies alongside Mr. Chavez. He used the privacy of his California office to frequently molest Ms. Murguia, she said. He had known her since she was 8 years old. She became so traumatized that she attempted to end her life multiple times by the age of 15.
> “I wanted to die,” she said.
> Ms. Rojas said she was 12 when Mr. Chavez first touched her inappropriately, groping her breasts in the same office where he’d meet with Ms. Murguia. When Ms. Rojas was 15, he arranged to have her stay at a motel during a weekslong march through California, she said, and had sexual intercourse with her — r***, under state law, because she was not old enough to consent. (Ms. Murguia said Mr. Chavez molested her but never had intercourse with her.).
> The abuse allegations appear to be part of a larger pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Chavez, much of which has never been publicly revealed. The Times investigation found that Mr. Chavez also used many of the women who worked and volunteered in his movement for his own sexual gratification. His most prominent female ally in the movement, Dolores Huerta, said in an interview that he sexually assaulted her, a disclosure she has never before made publicly.
> Many of the women stayed silent for decades, both out of shame and for fear of tarnishing the image of a man who has become the face of the Latino civil rights movement, his image on school murals and his birthday a state holiday in California.
> The findings are based on interviews with more than 60 people, including his top aides at the time, his relatives and former members of the U.F.W., which he co-founded with Ms. Huerta and Gilbert Padilla. The Times reviewed hundreds of pages of union records, confidential emails and photographs, as well as hours of audio recordings from U.F.W. board meetings.
> The accounts of abuse from Ms. Murguia and Ms. Rojas were independently verified through interviews with those they confided in decades ago and in more recent years. Elements of their stories were also corroborated in documents, emails, itineraries and other writings from union organizers, supporters of Mr. Chavez and historians.
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radiohead-nerdMar 18, 2026
+693
Here’s the problem when you venerate a human.
That’s why I don’t to get to wrapped up in the personal life of musicians, it might ruin the music for me
*Edit: to the folks blasting me, of course I’m not talking about vile human beings that are predators. I’m talking artists that are just jerks in real life, I’d rather not know and still appreciate their art. But guys like Roman Polanski, R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, yeah, I’ll never support their art.*
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thefwamMar 18, 2026
+12
I like Adam grants take which is that he says he doesn’t make people heroes, but admires traits. He admires Kobe Bryant’s dedication to training, but doesn’t consider him a hero. We can appreciate some good things and good traits and want to adopt them without putting the person on a pedastal.
That said..fully in favor of removing his name from streets etc, and maybe we don’t do that so much going forward!
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KopOutMar 18, 2026
+112
It now makes me think of this picture: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/04/jeffrey-epstein-files-noam-chomsky
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Ein_grosser_NerdMar 18, 2026
+198
Chomsky has been a known douchebag for basically his whole life though
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Dry_Purple_Mar 18, 2026
+58
And he’s a hack- did you know that there’s a language that disproves a lot of his work? He suppressed that language for years and got his wish- there are only a handful of native speakers left and it’s slowly dying.
Read Don’t Sleep, there are Snakes if you wanna learn more.
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tadfisherMar 18, 2026
+38
And at the same time his contributions to computer science are foundational and still taught. We still classify languages (and language parsers) using his hierarchy. He invented the concept of context-free grammars, which are the basis of every programming language in use today.
Almost like people can be right about some things and wrong about others. George Washington owned slaves. Hence why it's a problem to venerate humans instead of the work humans produce.
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GodlessLittleMonsterMar 18, 2026
+23
Generative Grammar has always seemed like a blatantly stupid idea to me, and he basically changed it over the years to be Functionalism in a trench coat and fake mustache. I can’t be the only linguistics major who thought this.
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HawaiiHungBroMar 18, 2026
+20
I’m not a huge fan of Chomsky, and I think his theories have their issues, but the man is far from a hack. Dan Everett, on the other hand, is not a very good scholar and not a very intelligent person, in my opinion. He vastly overstates some of the claims he makes about Piraha, without a lot of evidence to back it up. His big claim is that Piraha lacks recursion, which simply isn’t true, based on Everett’s own evidence. It is true that recursion seems to work quite differently in Piraha than in most languages, and it is definitely an interesting language. Your claim that Chomsky is trying to “suppress” Piraha is bizarre (you even seem to be implying he wishes its speakers dead). Chomsky has consistently stressed the importance of research on endangered languages, and has expressed that he would like more linguists to study Piraha specifically. Everett on the other hand, or so I have heard, has to some extent been gatekeeping the Piraha community and discouraging them from working with other linguists. For what it’s worth, I know what I’m talking about- I have a PhD in linguistics, my specialization is endangered language documentation, and I have done a lot of field research myself. I have read Everett’s work, seen him speak, and have met him. Myself and many others in the field (I’m talking about other people working on endangered language documentation, not theoretical grammar) see a lot of flaws in Everett’s research and find his claims not to be well supported. I read Don’t Sleep There Are Snakes before I had any formal linguistic training and found it fascinating, it is part of the reason I got interested in language documentation in the first place. Looking back on it now that I have expertise in the field, I can see its flaws and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone interested in linguistics as a science.
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leroyyrogersMar 18, 2026
+60
Noam Chomsky is my favorite musician
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PeakQuirky84Mar 18, 2026
+9
I saw him open for GWAR once. It was magical
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kingmeaMar 18, 2026
+8
I talked to a dude who met Cesar Chavez. He only said Chavez was too ugly to have mistresses. Man that hits different now.
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Canibal-localMar 18, 2026
+32
I agree, one time I went to a meet and greet with one of my favorite bands. I never done that before and when I was there I realized I was the only woman. I wanted to tell them how much I admire their music but also didn’t want to make it look like I wanted to suck their dicks lol I ended up just saying hi and leaving
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Long-Regular-1023Mar 18, 2026
+62
One of the first concerts I ever attended was the Vans Warped Tour when I was 13. Walking around to the various tents, I got a chance to meet Bowling For Soup. While they weren't my favorite band, I was super stoked to meet "celebrities" like this and I thought it was so cool that they were out there interacting with their fans. I casually asked the drummer if he could please sign something for me, to which he, without hesitation, replied "Can you suck my d***?"
In the moment I froze, didn't know what to say, and ended up apologizing to him and walking away. I've thought about this and wish that I wouldn't have apologized for doing nothing wrong and wish I would've made a scene about him asking a 13 year old to fellate him, but alas, that was definitely not the mindset I had at 13. So f*** you Gary Wiseman, you're a piece of shit.
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Canibal-localMar 18, 2026
+24
That’s awful, the worst part is you apologizing to the predator. I’m sorry that happened to you. F*** that guy!!!
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Electronic_Pipe_3145Mar 18, 2026
+18
Fawn response. Sadly a very normal, common reaction. All the blame falls on the predator who triggered it.
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MarkCuckerberg69420Mar 18, 2026
+12
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Dammit, I can't even watch Phineas & Ferb without supporting a pedophile.
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OutlulzMar 18, 2026
+8
>That’s why I don’t to get to wrapped up in the personal life of musicians, it might ruin the music for me
Music is a reflection of one's life. All art is. You cannot separate art from the artist. You can still enjoy it but you shouldn't try to be intentionally ignorant.
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GattawesomeMar 18, 2026
+5
Most musicians are terrible people behind the scenes. The good ones get noticed for good reason.
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Punman_5Mar 18, 2026
+36
Personally I think this is why it is _more_ important to get wrapped up in the personal lives of musicians. I won’t listen to Chris Brown or R. Kelly specifically because of their personal lives for example. I would rather a song be ruined for me than to be ignorant of the fact that I may be a fan of a bad person
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Maximum_joyMar 18, 2026
+19
I second this. It's an unpopular opinion but art, consumption, and taste are political IMO and it behooves one to know to whom they're listening
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Trystyn1990Mar 18, 2026
+63
It's almost like we should stop deifying people overall.
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Easy_Yogurt_376Mar 18, 2026
+118
This is something that’s floated around for years. Everyone in California knows he was an a****** to lots of people in the movement. He was a very complicated figure.
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LasVegasNerd28Mar 18, 2026
+54
LITERALLY. My mom told me about this in the 2000s. I grew up in SoCal and I’m white, so it’s not like it was a community secret either. Well known fact that he was a shitty person. That’s why I was surprised it made the news lol, I thought they went through all this when I was a kid!
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Helpful-Lab2702Mar 18, 2026
+26
Location has to be important. Grew up in Chicago with my school being primarily children of immigrant parents and we spent a lot of time talking this guy up. Kinda bummed I never got the truth about him at a younger age.
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RosieQParkerMar 18, 2026
+210
Ah, so the news *can* cover a war and a sex scandal at the same time after all.
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jtsa5Mar 19, 2026
+12
Just not THE sex scandal.
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thisisthe_worstMar 18, 2026
+24
Austin just canceled the Cesar Chavez parade because of this. I didn't even know we had a Cesar Chavez parade.
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royale_wthCheEsEMar 18, 2026
+114
California also has a paid state holiday named after him that seems problematic now.
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totomayaMar 18, 2026
+103
Haha in a lot of areas we ditched Columbus day for Cesar Chavez day.
I don't get either day off though.
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Steez_And_RiceMar 18, 2026
+61
Many places now have Indigenous Peoples Day instead of Columbus Day which I think is fitting
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FlattopJrMar 18, 2026
+10
Yup, his birthday is coming up soon, on March 31st.
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Apprehensive-Ant2141Mar 18, 2026
+16
A man in power, abusing that to get sex? Color me shocked.
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meowmix001Mar 18, 2026
+276
There's someone else who's been accused of abusing girls for years that we can still go after.
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ColebladeXMar 18, 2026
+50
We can do both
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YeahthatonefooMar 18, 2026
+20
We clearly can't he's still President
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smoothcriminal562Mar 18, 2026
+30
Growing up in Los Angeles as a Mexican-American, this was widely known.
My parents and even grandparents would tell me he was a POS. The rumors have always been there. I'm just surprised it took this long for something to happen.
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99kemoMar 18, 2026
+68
I know someone who worked directly with Chavez during the mid 1960’s. He told me that Chavez descended into full on mental illness by the early 1970’s and the people who supported him and built up the Union during the 1960’s simply left and let him run it into the ground. He told me that Chavez was a “driven genius”, but like all driven geniuses, he was always a little “crazy” and people tended to overlook those issues out respect and belief that the organization wouldn’t work without him. My friend is very reluctant to say anything bad about Chavez but he suggested that things happened that he and other high level leaders had to “cover up” to protect the reputation of Chavez and the Union. He would have been there during the time of the incident with Dolores Huerta but he wasn’t there when the incidents with underage girls occurred.
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shadow-foxeMar 18, 2026
+27
I do find it rather strange that those who supported him back then, no longer seem to be his friend or close with him. I tend to believe Dolores on this, and can totally see why she'd not have spoken up sooner as he had such a strong following, things would have gone bad fast.
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queensnugglesMar 18, 2026
+10
not surprised. many men of power abuse it in all the ways, including with women.
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SkorpyosMar 18, 2026
+195
Powerful men abusing girls and women should face the law and be punished. Or elected president, either or.
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SavageSkilletMar 18, 2026
+96
Yes. Exhume Cesar Chavez's 33-year dead corpse and make him stand trial!
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dalcarrMar 18, 2026
+58
So hes about the right levels of decomposed to run for president
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jaqueburtonMar 18, 2026
+10
In all honesty, his corpse would probably do a better job than Trump.
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GinAndDumbBitchJuiceMar 18, 2026
+4
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time in history. Or the second.
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Red_TeaCupMar 18, 2026
+8
I mean, they did it for a pope so...
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rawbert10Mar 18, 2026
+29
I propose we rename the streets, schools etc after Dolores Huerta as to not lose sight of the movement itself. Chavez is a POS we know that and those of us who read and dig already knew that long before this moment. But the movement can't be lost, the history can't be diminished based on one individuals actions. The battle, blood, sweat and tears of the thousands of workers must remain in tact.
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ellsammieMar 18, 2026
+17
If I am remembering my UFW history correctly, she did most of the work anyway. He just got all the glory.
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formerNPCMar 18, 2026
+76
The words “icon and hero” are thrown around so much that they lose their meaning. He could have been a civil rights icon and a shit human at the same time. Why do we automatically assume that they are mutually exclusive.
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flat5Mar 18, 2026
+19
Can we not do the thing where we say "I admire him for his policies, I can separate the policies from the imperfect man" thing?
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secondavesubwayMar 18, 2026
+38
Even his policies weren't perfect. He was anti-immigrant, threw around slurs, and had a "complex" relationship with filipino farmworkers. I never liked him all that much even though I supported the movement.
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Traditional_Sign4941Mar 18, 2026
+11
I would rephrase it. They aren't *his* policies. They are good policies in their own right regardless of who championed them or whether anyone championed them at all.
So I might rephrase it as "I appreciate that he was an effective champion for good policies."
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bswalshMar 18, 2026
+51
FFS, who _isn't_ a sex abuser??? I'm so sick if this. Even MLK was a notorious sex pest. Do we just have to assume that everyone is awful now? :( Seriously fellow men, how f****** hard is it not to r*** people?
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fearofcrowdsMar 18, 2026
+21
Mr. Rogers seems clean. Steve Irwin?..
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_Nightbreaker_Mar 18, 2026
+14
I think it'd be interesting to put together a list of guys who AREN'T verifiable sexual offenders. Like maybe they're imperfect in other ways but at least they're not pedophiles, rapists, etc.
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Suspicious_LoanMar 18, 2026
+16
Notice how it’s never, “famous woman revealed to have raped several men (or children) throughout lifetime” ?
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Dramatic-Pop7691Mar 18, 2026
+9
And yet I am reminded of what happened when Andrea Skinner went public about her mother Alice Munro's knowledge and enablement of the sexual abuse Andrea suffered at the hands of her stepfather.
If you aren't a book person, Alice Munro is a big deal.
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daisydelphineMar 19, 2026
+4
Andrea Skinner told her mother about her childhood abuse when Andrea when 25. It's disgusting that Alice Munro didn't leave her husband. But that's not the same at all as sexually abusing a child. Men and women will cover things up. But about 90% of child sexual abuse is committed by men.
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Apprehensive-Tea999Mar 18, 2026
+10
Frankly, I’m shocked when powerful men *don’t* commit sex crimes. Seems to go hand in hand.
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Galaxy_FlowersMar 18, 2026
+18
I had the absolute privilege of meeting Ms. Huerta when I was in high school. She was that rare, genuine icon of progressive and radical beliefs that helped push me towards the understanding of society that I have today. She was also supportive and understanding to a young, awkward, closeted queer kid who didn’t know the right words for their identity, in a way many adults have never been. She is, in short, an absolute inspiration to me, even beyond her many public achievements.
If she says this happened, it happened. I have zero doubt about that.
It is devastating to me that a person like her was hurt by a man like Chavez—like a physical punch to the gut. That alone would be a tragedy. But knowing now that all of these young girls with even less power have been forced to bury their suffering deep for decades, too, is beyond the pale. They were doing good in the farmworkers movement. It should have done right by them. The roots of the Epstein class have always gone deep, clearly, and need to be extracted. Permanently. Si se puede.
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SumthnSumthnDarksideMar 18, 2026
+10
Anyone got a paywall free link to the NYT article?
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Spyk124Mar 18, 2026
+19
You can use my [gift article ](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/18/us/cesar-chavez-sexual-abuse-allegations-ufw.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UFA.9AIN.PVHiF7HxaORS&smid=url-share)
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SumthnSumthnDarksideMar 18, 2026
+7
Thanks! Great article. Absolutely sick what he did to those young girls and women. I grew up revering him for his contributions to labor rights so reading this was a bit jarring but I guess it’s better late than never. Dolores Huerta was the real hero of this movement.
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jericho1949Mar 18, 2026
+7
Wait until yall hear about what past and current presidents got up to.
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KnightsOfCidonaMar 18, 2026
+37
Homer Simpson devastated with this news about Cesar Romero
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israeljeffMar 18, 2026
+14
This was my favorite joke in the entire series.
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RobutNotRobotMar 18, 2026
+28
My guess is that Cesar Chavez- a guy that has been dead for nearly 33 years- will face more consequences for raping children than the current President of the United States.
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bananapantherMar 18, 2026
+6
Honestly, more and more it just seems like virtually anyone with any influence and power is doing shitty things behind the scenes.
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junglingforlifeeMar 19, 2026
+6
Why do all powerful men turn out to be assholes
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JustAVirusWithShoesMar 18, 2026
+10
No Gods, No Masters, No Icons
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LoweDeeMar 18, 2026
+8
Ok so not ALL men but so so so many are disgusting predators. I’m sending so much love and support to ALL women except for the women excusing this.
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--solitude--Mar 18, 2026
+4
Devastating to read this about an icon. 😢Glad the truth is being told.
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pomonamikeMar 18, 2026
+311
Well, definitely a deal breaker for me. I won’t be voting for him for any high office unless he is cleared.
That’s what makes me different than roughly 75,000,000 of my fellow Americans apparently.
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epicoolguyMar 18, 2026
+175
He has been dead for over 30 years
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[deleted]Mar 18, 2026
+131
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TricoMexMar 18, 2026
+6
Ah f*** 😂
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xterminatrMar 18, 2026
+313
Doesn't change my vote, nice try bub.
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RoyLee_JenkinsMar 18, 2026
+10
I didn't even know he was sick
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even_steven27Mar 18, 2026
+84
this went way over your head
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DeanXeLMar 18, 2026
+49
You just got whooshed....
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pomonamikeMar 18, 2026
+29
I mean, that’s not a great selling point for me either. While I am a fan of his labor organizing policies, I’m *not* a fan of his being dead for three decade policy— I think it may inhibit his ability to deal with changes in society and being responsive to current needs as they arise. On top of that we have at the very least unanswered questions about the relationships too.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one I guess.
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XsiahMar 18, 2026
+38
I just assume anyone who lived through black and white media times did something that goes against the values that I hold now - until proven otherwise.
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finnerpeaceMar 18, 2026
+27
Their failings are definitely not all to the level of "raped and molested multiple girls and women," however. Let's not normalize actually-outlier, psychopathic behavior.
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vincec36Mar 18, 2026
+20
lol, today too. It’ll just take a few decades to come out
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FlummoxedGaolerMar 18, 2026
+14
It’s starting to feel more and more that if someone reaches prominence in society, it’s best to start from the assumption that they’re into abusing kids. If not then, then at *least* an adulterer. Seems almost universal.
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Slight-Bluebird-8921Mar 18, 2026
+15
isn't it funny how these people are instantly brought down yet agent orange just keeps on passing wind?
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TBTabbyMar 18, 2026
+12
Just throw it on the pile.
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secderpsiMar 18, 2026
+8
Let me guess, MAGA will believe every accusation without question. But their dear leader is innocent of everything, no need to even investigate. To be clear, I believe they both assaulted and raped women.
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R67HMar 18, 2026
+5
Does this mean San Francisco will get Army St back?
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Independent-Slip568Mar 18, 2026
+8
If it was going to happen at any time it would happen in this political climate, but… it’s still SF. No freaking way that’ll fly lol.
Emperor Norton Avenue has a nice ring to it tho.
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i__SisyphusMar 18, 2026
+4
A man of power is accused of abusing children, I am in shock and disbelief
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KrugerDunningWomanMar 18, 2026
+4
OH FFS! Can't we have one non-pedo hero!?
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jenniehaniverMar 19, 2026
+5
These comments are gross as Hell. How f****** single-minded do we have to be that this is being dismissed with, “WHAT ABOUT EPSTEIN AND TRUMP!” and not, “it’s good a predator is being exposed”? Yeah, he’s dead. That hasn’t stopped people ‘cancelling’ folks like, shit, Paul Gauguin for being predatory creeps.
I grew up in California with peers whose families were working the vineyards and fields and even 30 years ago they were talking about this. It’s news, but it isn’t *news*. I thought our modern cultural narrative is to Believe Women…does that not count if those women are “brown” accusing another “brown”? Frankly the Whataboutism here comes across as hella racist. Believe Women, except if they say something against a beloved icon. Then, f*** ‘em, it’s right-wing propaganda.
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pattydickensMar 18, 2026
+6
Wait until you hear about Thomas Jefferson.
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CaptainObvious110Mar 18, 2026
+4
How will the victims of Thomas Jefferson get justice?
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MomsBoredMar 18, 2026
+6
No surprise a man in power doing something heinous. Separate the man from the movement. Society needs to stop idolizing people and praise the ideas etc.
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lemme_just_sayMar 18, 2026
+3
I used to be like “oh wow, how disappointing” and now I’m just waiting for abuse allegations to come to light for historic figures. Or anyone really. I’m assuming this was prevalent.
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Johnnybats330Mar 19, 2026
+3
I am Mexican. I grew up being skeptical about this man. I get that the Latino community needed their political and righteous hero. But something about him didn't sit right the more I knew about him through books.
He was very coercive and manipulative in testimonies from other political figures. Where some saw him as an unwavering figure, he really liked to have power and abuse it.
He was anti immigrant despite being a product of immigrants. He also ran scams and a migrant farmer periodical.
He used catholicism as it was his upbringing to secularize his movement and famously looked down on poor people, having grown poor himself.
He used other prominent leaders tactics an used them to serve his own purpose. He was smart yet conniving.
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