Chief of Staff Zamir warns IDF will collapse due to lack of manpower, raises 'ten red flags'

The same group demand constant war isn’t willing to fight.

Bibi netanyahu is the Prime Minister of a minority government ie he has less than half of Parliament backing him which makes him an easy target for a simple no confidence vote to get rid of him. Unfortunately the opposition parties hate each other more than Bibi. Israel's no confidence rules require that a replacement be selected before a no confidence vote be held and with no majority selected to back a replacement, he gets to keep his office. To get rid of him you'd need a far right Israeli party to partner with centrists and the far left to select a new Prime Minister...

Do it anyway let them see what they have been doing and see if they still want to do it.

Generally speaking the extremist settler groups tend more toward national-religious than ultra-orthodox. They already are obliged to serve in the military.

No. The ones who refuse to enlist are the Ultra Orthodox AKA Haredis, who are ambivalent about Palestinians. The settlers on the other hand do enlist but many are frequently rejected on the grounds that they'll commit hate crimes.

Those settlers typically are rejected by the military. Ben Gvir at al were never drafted because the army doesn't want this kind of extremism.

Issue is the ultra orthodox dont contribute to the economy much and are a drain on social resources.

Secular Israelis have a higher birth rate than any western country.

Their will be a point where over half of the population refuses to do mandatory military service. Its unsustainable.

Haredi women are better educated than the men on average. They also work. And non-haredi Israelis also have a higher birthrate than the Western average.

They don't work, they are not productive members of society, Israel will fall of they keep increasing in population

I actually think it's the other way around. Israel is tiny and cannot support an exploding population. If being drafted into the military will make the ultra orthodox have less kids, it would be for the best.

The women actually have more higher education / college degrees than the men in that community. They work while the men can study all day.

I mean you're just incorrect. Ultra orthodox women are quite involved in the world, most have jobs and often a degree of education. The men are the ones sequestered into studies all day. The women are not locked away.

>Israel has solved the deomgraphics crisis. ***women uneducated and turned into baby factories.*** **False:** \*\*\*\*Haredi women are employed at high rates… about 74% "Haredi women are employed at high rates, despite their high fertility rates, and the rates are similar among married and unmarried women." "Employment rates are particularly high among non-Haredi Jewish women (82%) and Haredi women (74%), despite relatively high fertility rates (2.6 and 7 children per woman, respectively)." [The Labor Market: An Overview ](https://www.taubcenter.org.il/en/research/the-labor-market-an-overview/) \*\*\*\*The ultra-Orthodox only make up approximately 13.6 of the population. "At the end of 2023 Israel’s Haredi community numbered 1,335,000, 13.6% of the total population." [The Annual Assessment of the Jewish People 2024 | 5784 - The Jewish People Policy Institute](https://jppi.org.il/en/%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%94-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%AA-2024/s/5.4/)

They want war but want someone else to do the fighting (and pay for it).

Ya but Israel hasn’t had near the amount of losses my guess it’s a mistranslation

> I assume he would want this to pass. No, because it would put his government in jeopardy. Oh, and the government is fighting against the courts here on this topic. Very spicy situation overall.

No. The draft bill which was put on hold was one which would effectively enshrine the haredi draft exemptions into law (although that's not how its proponents presented it). It was very contraversial wven inside the coalition.

Don’t worry, nobody would ever say this. It’s probably a bad translation

They have been pushing for this war for as long as I've been alive. They struck first, and by all accounts have been pressuring the US into it for a long time. They definitely deserve most of the blame, because it seems they have major sway when it comes to US foreign policy.

Have you heard about the Epstein files

I mean the statement is true. Yeah the buck stops with Trump and Trump is the reason the statement is true. But it’s true.

Trump ?

The settlers mostly all serve, the people who don't are the haredim (ultra-Orthodox). They, more or less, don't live in the West Bank. There are some settlements like Beitar and Modiin Illit right on the border, but otherwise not.