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News & Current Events Apr 7, 2026 at 4:07 PM

China and Russia veto U.N. resolution on protecting Hormuz shipping

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Horat1us_UA 3 days ago +690
At this point I would trust random listnook commenter over T
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No_Somewhere_8744 3 days ago +94
Find us the best civilization game player of all time, who is also a us citizen to run the country over the trumper 
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Ganrokh 3 days ago +34
As a long-time Civ player (and one of the few people that enjoys Civ 7), I've been surprised to see that the process of "build up units at the border and constantly tell the other leader that you're just merely passing by" starting a war play out with Trump's war on Iran. I've been bracing for the possible "everyone denounces you for using a WMD" Civ outcome for a couple of weeks now.
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Mean_Joe_Greene 3 days ago +8
Well everyone is just denouncing you for warmongering right now at least
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arnoldit 3 days ago +14
Does Rimworld count? I hope not
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-Haliax 3 days ago +8
Hey, don't give them any ideas. I know a RimWorld player mentality
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7th_Protagonist 3 days ago +12
Does crusader kings count ?
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tholovar 3 days ago +3
Considering Trump likes to comment on his own daughter's body; probably
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roachy69 3 days ago +9
3 games that should be mandatory to understand before running the government: Civ, Victoria, Hearts of Iron.
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Kataphractoi 3 days ago +2
What about Medieval Total War-wait nope nevermind.
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Omegoa 3 days ago +3
The Trump admin is an excellent mimic of the Total War AI diplomacy, at least in older games. AI proposes: Trade Rights; their ask: Accept or we will attack!
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Flamecrest 3 days ago +45
When are you running for US president, u/TubeframeMR2
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[deleted] 3 days ago +8
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Fun-Poet5338 3 days ago +5
Wait is this real or ???
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Rinas-the-name 3 days ago +5
No, it’s way too coherent. Nothing about saving curtains.
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knifter 3 days ago +3
This is accurate as f!
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not_that_planet 3 days ago +1
But only at this point, right? Up until now, t-bag has seemed to be an on-the-level guy. ;-)
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NativeMasshole 3 days ago +229
I honestly can't tell if these are satire or not anymore.
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Tehdougler 3 days ago +19
way too coherent to be real
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VegasKL 3 days ago +20
I was just about to say that
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ceemeebonnie 3 days ago +4
Its hard to believe that the worlds biggest moron is controlling nukes and the biggest army in the world. A madman who can do whatever he wants with impunity because everyone is corrupt or scared of the moron bully. Just utterley incredible.
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IKillZombies4Cash 3 days ago +111
I hate that I don’t know if this is real or not
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shmere4 3 days ago +16
Not realistic because the reporter wasn’t called “nasty”.
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Antoinefdu 3 days ago +11
Did that happen or is it a parody? I can't tell anymore.
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Beautiful_Travel_160 3 days ago +37
It’s sad that I don’t even know if this completely made up or actually said it 😂
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seclifered 3 days ago +6
I can no longer tell what’s real and what’s sarcasm with this president 
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kroqus 3 days ago +3
Can't tell if parody or real life...
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Khetoo 3 days ago +3
Him LARPing over made up scenarios about people respecting him is so f****** deeply sad If he wasn't such a criminal rapist pedophile he would just be sad old man with dementia The amount of piss on his grave gonna baffle future civilizations at the salt deposits around this one corpse lmao
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ttboo 3 days ago +3
The first two are believable, but the last part would be him asking who they report to and then talking about how failed and fake that organization is. That's what he does when he's asked a question he doesn't like. Everytime. Then he changes the subject.
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Legendver2 3 days ago +2
Didn't forget with tears in their eyes
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takanuva 3 days ago +2
I... I don't know if you're mocking or if that's an actual quote.
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ceemeebonnie 3 days ago +1
"Begging me for a big beautiful deal, they need me and my beautiful deals thats in my interests and pockets"
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Fun-Poet5338 3 days ago +267
Someone in Trump sub was saying the Iran war is actually genius coz it's hurting China. If that's the case why would China vote against reopening the strait??
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ethereal3xp 3 days ago +141
It did at first. But now Iran is letting "their friends" ships through. Ultimately this is all a tit for tat game while civilizations are held as hostages (gasoline prices, food etc.) Its exhausting and needs to end.
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splynncryth 3 days ago +6
The world was already taking steps to end this before the current conflict started. The boycotts of US goods and services, the new trade agreements, the change in the US treasury bond market, and the general shift in global markets have all been groundwork to deal with an increasingly belligerent US. It’s not hard to see this morphing into outright sanctions on the US.
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iluvpokemanz 3 days ago +60
Dude China is making out like an absolute bandit as a result of Trump. They are absolutely thrilled.
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Selvon 3 days ago +37
Almost all of China's action in the last X years have been trying to position themselves as the world defacto economy, military etc instead of the US. And then in the last 10 years the US has just... given them it. Just absolutely thrown every piece of alliance, trade agreement, reputation down the drain. It would have taken China decades more to close the gap as much as the US has done to themselves.
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iluvpokemanz 3 days ago +11
It’s literally insane how much they’ve gained with such little effort. We practically gave it all to them.
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Such_Reality_6732 3 days ago +2
Genuinely all they need to do is solve their birth rate problem and their set
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Aggravating-Walk5813 3 days ago +17
Iran is charging 1 to 2 million dollars for every ship that passes through the strait. They’re using renminbi not dollars. It’s making China stronger.
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awayish 3 days ago +16
it only hurts china if there's regime change. it'll likely just be regime entrenchment and one way strait open to china only.
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JohnHazardWandering 3 days ago +28
No matter what, it doesn't hurt China. If China's oil gets passage, then the rest of the world is held back while China keeps on chugging along.  Regime change? China buys oil. No regime change? China buys oil. 
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[deleted] 3 days ago +3
I mean, China kind of relies on the rest of the world to buy their shit so if nobody else has any money, it's going to affect them.
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csf3lih 3 days ago +5
regime change or not, you gotta sell the oil to someone. guess who is the biggest buyer in the market. and its not like theres only one seller. 
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[deleted] 3 days ago +3
If Trump nukes Iran, he's handing them the greatest propaganda win of the century and he's too stupid to know it
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pete_68 3 days ago +2
Because Trump has faked them out so badly they don't know what's best for them? /s
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Valtremors 3 days ago +3
Forget not that Iran has also let Chinese ships go through it. Pretty much anyone who isn't actively antagonizing Iran atm, the process has just been slower than usual. US is the one country that is being actively blocked.
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ImmaNotHere 3 days ago +14
They are using the old axiom: you broke it, you fix it.
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SHITBLAST3000 3 days ago +705
“At a vote in ​the U.N. Security ‌Council on Tuesday, China and Russia vetoed a ​Bahraini resolution encouraging ​states to coordinate efforts ⁠to protect commercial ​shipping in the Strait ​of Hormuz.” Translates to: “Do it yourself, fucko. You started this shit, own it.”
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728766 3 days ago +493
It translates to “don’t interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” The Strait being closed conveniently destabilizes their biggest opponents.
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dexter30 3 days ago +71
> more reliance on Russian gas exports > Iran requiring payments in yuan Only an idiot would try to stop what's unfolding.
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TheOsirisOfThisShit_ 3 days ago
The oil price increase is about to demolish the precarious Chinese economy.
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SierraPapaHotel 3 days ago +23
Legit question: do we have any reliable sources on the state of the Chinese economy? I'm honestly not confident if what I've heard about the state of the Chinese economy is propaganda or reality, instability included
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Incredible_nutt 3 days ago +9
Tough one, but there are rather reliable documentations about the state of the chinese economy from independent journalists who try to paint a picture in combination of data and interviewing locals
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Suspicious_Place1270 3 days ago +135
exactly, both China and Russia want this. they already get free passage, that's it makes it easier to distinguish an enemy from an ally
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HereticLaserHaggis 3 days ago +38
Russia maybe. Sky High oil prices don't help China.
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canal_boys 3 days ago +59
China has the most diversified energy system on the planet. 6 month of oil, biggest by far renewable energy infrastructure, Nuclear energy and coal. They're playing the long game.
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HereticLaserHaggis 3 days ago +34
... Right? They also import more oil than any other country in the world (by a big margin)
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VanceKelley 3 days ago +8
Truth. Biggest oil importer by far is China. Second biggest is USA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_imports https://www.visualcapitalist.com/chinas-crude-oil-imports-by-country/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/us-oil-imports-by-country
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PikachuStoleMyWife 3 days ago +5
Plus russia is right there so they quite chill I would guess. Considering 20% of their total import is from Russia.
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PuffyPanda200 3 days ago +13
Oil is fungible, higher prices (or constrained supply) in one place results in higher prices basically everywhere.
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Odd_Entertainer1616 3 days ago +3
Also, there are no pipelines from Russia to China that have the capacity to make up the dip from middle eastern imports.
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supereuphonium 3 days ago +6
You say it’s diverse but most of its energy is from fossil fuels if you actually look into it? Most is Coal but oil/natural gas is the second largest source of energy. Not sure where you are getting the 6 months of oil saved, China is pretty opaque about this kind of thing, although I don’t buy that their oil reserve is many times larger than the U.S reserve. Even though the CCP can do things like price caps to keep prices down, the money is still coming from somewhere, and and losing a significant portion of their imports is undoubtedly a bad thing for them.
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BobHopeSpecial 3 days ago +19
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/traders-seek-yuan-payment-indian-state-buyers-russian-oil-sources-say-2025-10-07/ India is paying with Yuan instead of Dollars. China wants to usurp Dollar dominance in petrocurrency
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deHaga 3 days ago +20
Less dollar dominance yes, but China does not want the Yuan to be the reserve currency.
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Positive_Total_8651 3 days ago +18
Longterm, it really wouldnt make sense to replace the petrodollar with the Yuan. Its pretty clear that China is looking toward a post-petrodollar world, not by being the new oil reserve currency, but by getting the rest of the world using their renewable technology. Fossil fuel is not a viable long-term energy source, we've known that for a very long time. We could have been innovating this whole time but we dug our heels in on fossil fuel despite all evidence pointing to a *need* to move away from it.
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Sanguinor-Exemplar 3 days ago +7
China is not ready to do that whatsoever. They have tight capital controls for their own motivations. You can't freely move yuan like dollars and their exchange rate isn't free floating.
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WeddingPKM 3 days ago +9
I’m sure China is over the moon that America has shot itself in the foot like this, but they absolutely do not want to become the reserve currency.
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Agreeable_Falcon1044 3 days ago +2
China can live in a war economy and don’t have to worry about bad times. We can’t cope. They don’t have to win, they just have to last longer than us…which they can do easily
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EpicRedditor34 3 days ago +2
No. But their control of their population makes it much more tenable.
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DownvoteEvangelist 3 days ago +25
The price of oil going up is dream come true for Russia, Americans even paused some sanctions to make Russian oil more accessible...
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Imperial_Bouncer 3 days ago +27
Luckily, Ukraine has their own sanctions that are *far* more effective.
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Zeryth 3 days ago +15
Kinetic sanctions always have immediate results.
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PikachuStoleMyWife 3 days ago +2
Drones constantly hitting Russia's refineries?
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Imperial_Bouncer 3 days ago +6
Not only refineries but also ports and hubs. So even the stuff that remains can’t be sold.
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PikachuStoleMyWife 3 days ago +6
It is fun to watch russia's oil depots and refineries going up in flames. I just feel bad for the environment..
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Imperial_Bouncer 3 days ago +6
It’s good knowing it helps end the war but things burning isn’t good for the environment. You see videos of that thick black smoke that stretches for miles and think all that stuff eventually settles somewhere. This whole war has been an environmental disaster.
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ChrisOhoy 3 days ago +17
Only… US isn’t the one hurting from this. The Gulf states are hurting.. China is hurting… all of Asia is hurting. Russia is technically happy that the price of oil is going up, but their refineries are also going up… in flames that is. So Russia is hurting too. This is a geopolitically sensitive issue because Russia is unable to help Iran and China is unwilling to help.. if anything, I’m thinking China might want this to end as soon as possible.. Russia wants this to continue as long as possible. A weird situation.
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-_-BIGSORRY-_- 3 days ago +12
The US is dismantling the current order (and its power projection) in the Middle East that it spent decades and at least hundreds of billion to build
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mutexsprinkles 3 days ago +3
Just Iraq (not the gulf wars, just the last one) was trillions. Even at 2003 prices, a trillion is enough solar panels to account for 20% of the US electricity consumption so they didn't even really come out ahead on energy. Solar is (literally, $0.12 Vs $12 per watt) 100x cheaper than that now, they're probably *already* past the point where buying solar panels with the cost of war would have been more cost effective.
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excaliber110 3 days ago +3
Trillions no doubt billions is not the correct realm. We’re wasting trillions of dollars of force projection, ally friendship and deals, because America is afraid of what comes next instead of embracing it.
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toorudez 3 days ago +18
You don't think the US is hurting from this? Gas is going up, diesel is going up, jet fuel is going up. Everything is about to get really expensive. In order to keep prices down and transport open, petroleum manufacturing is going to switch to diesel and jet fuel since you cannot have those stop. Gas rationing is coming. But I guess in the wise words of your POTUS, Praise be to Allah!
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supereuphonium 3 days ago +3
The US is likely one of the countries hurting the least, ironically. The US is a net oil exporter, and imports mostly come from Canada/mexico. It’s just because the US started this war, there is far more internal political pressure to reduce prices. I struggle to think of any country that is better off than the US if politics are ignored except for Russia, where the price spike is a boon for funding their war.
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ChrisOhoy 3 days ago +11
“Your POTUS”… Im just stating facts here.. not everyone is getting hit the same. Asia is royally fucked by this and it’s not nearly the same in America and Europe, yet. Given enough time and higher prices, sure, we will all have a difficult time.
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dylanbitran 3 days ago +3
Mmm. Idk man, i see china having no problem import8ng russian oil and gas.
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ChrisOhoy 3 days ago +4
Sure, but Russia can’t supply more than 15-20% of Chinas oil.. scaling up is not easy and Russia is under constant attack..
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BobHopeSpecial 3 days ago +28
Why would Russia help? Their sanctions are lifted and countries are buying their oil at above market rates without competition. lol They have nothing to gain from the straight reopening.
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CyberSoldat21 3 days ago +4
Same could be said when Russia got mad their tankers got raided
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Darkblade48 3 days ago +1
"China and Russia just killed a resolution to help protect ships in the Strait of Hormuz, basically telling everyone else to go screw themselves." [Kagi](https://translate.kagi.com/?to=en&from=linkedin&text=%E2%80%9CAt+a+vote+in+%E2%80%8Bthe+U.N.+Security+%E2%80%8CCouncil+on+Tuesday%2C+China+and+Russia+vetoed+a+%E2%80%8BBahraini+resolution+encouraging+%E2%80%8Bstates+to+coordinate+efforts+%E2%81%A0to+protect+commercial+%E2%80%8Bshipping+in+the+Strait+%E2%80%8Bof+Hormuz.%E2%80%9D) works wonders for this kind of stuff
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DummyDumDragon 3 days ago +36
We're NEVER banding together when the aliens invade, are we?
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RedDeviledEggs 3 days ago +6
Look up Terra Invicta's factions. An honestly realistic take on what different human groups/idealogies may form under an alien invasion
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RarelyReadReplies 3 days ago +4
Bro... I'm praying they come and get our civilization straightened out before it's too late. Any civilization capable of getting here would be astronomically more advanced than us.
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itadapeezas 3 days ago +6
No fr😩😭😭
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pete_68 3 days ago +3
Clearly I need to sell all you guys out to the aliens and look out for myself. That's the message I'm getting from the governments.
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Username928351 3 days ago +1
At this point I'm willing to give aliens a try.
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gordonjames62 3 days ago +40
This is amazing political theater. #1 Never interrupt an enemy while they are making a mistake. #2 Don't let USA make this painful moment a UN responsibility. USA brought this on by themselves without consulting anyone. >Washington's ambassador to the ‌world body called on "responsible nations" to join the U.S. ~~in securing the waterway~~ whatever madness our mighty leader tries next. USA seems to be intent on making themselves irrelevant to every other nation by being a "loose cannon on deck" for trade, diplomacy, alliances, partnership etc.
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doglywolf 2 days ago +1
After its leader spent weeks on social media shitting on other countries and their leaders saying like we dont need or want their help .
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Bowgentle 3 days ago +38
> They ​sided with a regime that seeks to intimidate the Gulf into submission, even as it brutalizes its own people. Is that Iran or the US, though?
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Pariahb 3 days ago +8
Both fit that description.
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Panthera_leo22 3 days ago +1
Terrifying it’s getting difficult to differentiate
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Callabrantus 3 days ago +120
A major shift is in the works.
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According_Comedian69 3 days ago +24
Meaning?
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movealongnowpeople 3 days ago +80
China has had a great year, and it's only looking up. Russia, not so much.
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ReturnoftheSpack 3 days ago +42
Trump basically gave Russia free pass with oil skyrocketing, so yes Russia not so much this year but theyre getting their break now Hes probably been paid off to help Russia now so you can understand. Itll feed his family for generations. Dont hate
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movealongnowpeople 3 days ago +25
Oh, don't get me wrong. Russia has absolutely benefited from Trump. But they were hoping to be an empire again, and that's not any closer to happening than it was when they started. They're stuck in Ukraine, they don't really have an avenue to expand further in Europe, they have to worry about their allies in Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba, they lost Syria years ago, their economy is still doing poorly, still threats of unrest at home. Putin isn't getting his empire anytime soon, but Trump definitely helped get them some cash.
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Positive_Total_8651 3 days ago +8
It really is crazy how you could replace Russia with the US in that sentence, and it would still ring closely. Change ukraine to iran, syria to afghanistan, etc etc. We are very literally following Putin's playbook and coming to the same results.
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RelevantOldOnion 3 days ago +3
Not really. America is an empire currently and our wars are just accelerating the inevitable collapse (or hopefully managed decline and drawback)  Putin never had an empire to begin with. 
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JohnHazardWandering 3 days ago +5
Ukraine has put their own sanctions on Russia's oil export ports this past week. 
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Panthera_leo22 3 days ago +3
Still higher oil prices overall helps Russia.
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Due-Information-2041 3 days ago +3
Didn't China get most of their oil from the ME? I imagine they are just as mad at Trump as Europe is at this point.
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ducksoupmilliband 3 days ago +8
Bye bye USA as leader of the free world. Well, bye bye free world.
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HealthIndustryGoon 3 days ago +1
good old [sarah paine](https://youtu.be/L1tQrW8EMDY) recently answered some questions regarding the current USA and what a breakdown of the current world order could mean. since the interviewer is clearly not an expert she also explains some basic stuff like the importance of well maintained institutions. really recommended.
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DistanceToEmpty 3 days ago +13
This war will be remembered as America's Suez Crisis moment.
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Hoodamush 3 days ago +4
New world order you say?
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Havoccity 3 days ago +12
The US crammed itself into a situation where no matter what they do, they lose while Russia and China win. Option 1: Strait stays closed, Russia and China win. Option 2: US forcing strait open by glassing Iran, causing the world to isolate them, Russia and China win. Option 3: US forcing strait open with boots on the ground to occupy Iran, take extremely heavy losses, Russia and China win.
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mantidmarvel 3 days ago +85
Shit, for once I think I actually agree with them. I can't see how that resolution would actually help with de-escalating the situation.
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PolecatXOXO 3 days ago +36
Not sure entirely China's angle, but it is not in Russia's interest to open the strait right now. They keep their sanctions lifted in a high-priced market.
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gathmoon 3 days ago +19
China gets to watch the US fail and fall even more. Elevating their presence on the world stage. All while not taking, imo, the low road of enacting violence against Iran. Israel and the US started this. They can end it by tucking tail and going home.
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HP844182 3 days ago +8
Why would China enact violence against Iran? They're friendly, but it seems like China is largely allowing them to go it alone without support 
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gathmoon 3 days ago +7
Voting to force the strait open would involve military force. They are definitely not letting them go it alone. There is lots of background support.
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YatesScoresinthebath 3 days ago +7
Weird how this war massively benefits Russia and Trump is willing to go right to the end with it..
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PracticalYellow3 3 days ago +1
You don’t see how reducing terrorist attacks on ships helps?
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mantidmarvel 3 days ago +5
Generally speaking, more countries getting seriously involved just turns things into larger scale conflicts. We're supposed to *avoid* WW3.
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pyr0test 3 days ago +87
good, US and Israel started it, now they're trying to drag UN peacekeepers into the fight
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Savage_Whiskers 3 days ago +6
UN peacekeepers never engage in direct combat unless directly attacked. They are mandated to monitor peace agreements and considering the situation in the ME, we are not there yet…
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asl510 3 days ago
No more UN peacekeepers. All killed by the Israeli.
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Illustrious-Gas-9766 3 days ago +7
Trump should learn that China and Russia are not our friends. So Trump started a war and doesn't know how to finish it and China and Russia are not going to make it easier for him.
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pistoffcynic 3 days ago +20
It didn't need protecting a month ago... Then Mr. Major Disaster, Donald Trump, unleashed Operation Epstein Fury. God, these people are idiots.
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Wall-SWE 3 days ago +21
"The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Mike Waltz, condemned the Russian and Chinese vetoes, saying they marked "a new low" when Iran's shutting of the Strait was preventing medical aid and supplies reaching humanitarian crises in the Congo, Sudan and Gaza." The f***? The U.S is actively supporting and letting Israel kill civilians in Gaza and has also pulled most of their humanitarian aid. Is this a joke?
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OnlyMeFFS 3 days ago +7
"Preventing medical aid" ... He's a fine one to talk about withholding medical help seeing as America is trying to gut medicaid for their own citizens.
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Defiant_Obligation_6 3 days ago +18
Like UN resolutions mean anything.
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DownvoteEvangelist 3 days ago +16
The one that authorized desert storm meant something...
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[deleted] 3 days ago +2
Little did the US know, they didn't actually need it to just wade in waving their dicks around. 
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DownvoteEvangelist 3 days ago +2
They did it countless times before. But it's nice when everyone agrees.
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Savage_Whiskers 3 days ago +2
When Security Council members veto any resolution which goes against their own personal interests, it doesn’t. When resolutions address bi-partisan issues or conflicts where the G5 are not personally engaged, then it has a lot of reach.
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thyraven666 3 days ago +3
UN, as useless as ever.
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FlatwormAltruistic 2 days ago +2
UN security council is pointless. Russia being one of the founding member has veto rights and will just veto anything not in their interest. Even if it would serve their interests, then they can veto something if it would help anyone else more just to be d***.
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Mrhnhrm 3 days ago +2
UN member states: *\[paying membership fees in the hope that their interests will be protected\]* Meanwhile, the UN: ...
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FoolishProphet_2336 3 days ago +4
Really deceptive title. The resolution was a watered-down motion that echoes US talking points and legitimizes Trump’s mess. It would have been incredibly irresponsible for any nation to vote for this.
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Master-Rent5050 3 days ago +16
11 states out of 15 voted to escalate the war. Quite impressive
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Mlles_De_Maupin 3 days ago +2
It is infuriating that Europe is so pathetic to not take a stand against the USA. Same goes for the Middle East countries not saying enough is enough
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Free_Possession_4482 3 days ago +2
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
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Efficient-Wolf7068 3 days ago +2
Like a UN resolution is worth anything other than a week worth of news
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Mac62961 3 days ago +3
russia and iran share weapons … and china and russia share info and weapons….no surprise. Their old buddies syria, venezuela, and cuba are no help these days though
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habitual_citizen 2 days ago +1
We live in a world where leaders play chess, forgetting real living humans in real countries with real lives and real wants and needs are at the behest of their collective id-ego crashout. I’m so tired of having to vote, lest I be fined (Australia), for a shade of evil.
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MyDogThinksISmell 2 days ago +1
Ordinary people have been living in this same world since the beginning of civilization.
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