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News & Current Events Apr 25, 2026 at 12:49 PM

China car giant BYD says it can thrive without access to US market

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China car giant BYD says it can thrive without access to US market
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China car giant BYD says it can thrive without access to US market
With the price of fuel rising China's BYD says it is positioning itself to benefit from the global shift away from fossil fuels.

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Additional_Quiet2600 Apr 25, 2026 +1
They seem to be doing well in Thailand. I see them everywhere.
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JustChillFFS Apr 25, 2026 +1
Apparently Australia too
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KGB_cutony Apr 25, 2026 +1
It's very funny. The Chinese government had a big push to get EV brands global. So BYD just shipped a bunch of EVs to Australia to collect the subsidies before they expire. Just as the subsidies ended and they were worried about how to deal with the massive stockpiles in Australia, the strait closed. EV sales went through the roof. Before Feb if you haggle with the salesperson they can gift you a home battery along with EV purchase. Now the wait time is up to 3 months and all you can get from the salesperson is probably bottled water
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PrivatePilot9 Apr 25, 2026 +1
And just in time for all the USA big automakers to have cancelled or castrated many of their EV lineups. Is the US tired of all the winning yet?
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gravtix Apr 25, 2026 +1
USA will probably start arresting EV drivers as “anti-American”. If Elon donates enough money he gets an exception.
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HumanTraffic2 Apr 25, 2026 +1
That's pretty amazing, do you have a source on that home battery haggling? I got a BYD and only d******* was their nationwide deal, am in several groups and everyone says don't even bother. Most I've heard is people getting a cable or something but think that was for delayed delivery.
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ratomelo Apr 25, 2026 +1
Same happened in Brazil. They brought ~5k cars 2 months before subside expiration and now there's months long wait time for some models. But they also bought one of the facilities that Ford abandoned to assemble cars here.
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beachbound2 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Everything the US is doing is making China stronger
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rematar Apr 25, 2026 +1
I'm pleasantly surprised that Texas of the South can be reactive.
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Flybuys Apr 25, 2026 +1
The shark 6 is everywhere and more keep coming in every day.
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Boomshank Apr 25, 2026 +1
I know you're an aussie - are you still referring to cars?
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HumanTraffic2 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Yes, Shark 6, BYDs PHEV Ranger like pickup.
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Additional-Sky-8384 Apr 25, 2026 +1
they’re nice cars. the software side is better than tesla. build quality is better.
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ED_Churly Apr 25, 2026 +1
I have a BYD in Australia and love it. But I disagree the software is better than Tesla. It’s one remaining advantage they have.
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SenorTron Apr 25, 2026 +1
Yeah. Am Australian and BYD will probably be our next car. Would prefer that there were some Australian manufacturers but since there aren't the Chinese vehicles are impossible to beat for value.
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Cosmosn8 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Indonesia too.
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xpda Apr 25, 2026 +1
That's obvious. They're now the world's number one EV maker, and I can't buy one in the U.S.
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jmhawk Apr 25, 2026 +1
Musk would spend biblical amounts of wealth to lobby the government to prevent a Chinese EV from taking US market share away from his claws, but fortunately for him the current administration bans Chinese EVs for free
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thorscope Apr 25, 2026 +1
The Chinese EV ban was done by the previous administration, not the current one. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/biden-administration-finalizes-us-crackdown-chinese-vehicles-2025-01-14/
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GuyWithPants Apr 25, 2026 +1
And, tangentially, Canada went along with the effective ban as long as it seemed like we were in the auto industry together with the USA. With that gone, Canada’s letting Chinese cars in.
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fhs Apr 25, 2026 +1
Canada's not fully opening the door to Chinese EVs, only about 50000k and with some marginal tariff applied.
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quothe_the_maven Apr 25, 2026 +1
Trump put the tariff at 25% in his first term, which already effectively banned them. What Biden did was like when they give someone already serving a life sentence another 200 years.
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RookieMistake101 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Dems have been right with American auto for a very long time.
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DangerDarrin Apr 25, 2026 +1
This is why the US administration is so pissed at Canada for now allowing Chinese EVs into North America. They are getting closer. Let’s face it, the US auto industry is gonna get left behind if they don’t conform and embrace this change. Their industry is already in the shitter but the big auto companies and big oil keep lobbying to keep EVs out of the US. They are just shooting themselves in the foot and once a collapse happens they will be asking why?
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Leek5 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Not just musk. All US auto makers. They know if they come here it would destroy them. The ford ceo say he loves his Chinese ev and doesn’t want to give it up
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jstuu Apr 25, 2026 +1
I hope if the dems win the white house they open the market to them
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TOWEL7484 Apr 25, 2026 +1
It's so anti capitalist of these capatalists to do. Why innovate against a potential competitor when you can just be complacent with what you have. China is going to be, and already is, years ahead of any other country in this sector. I feel like the only way to catch up is to allow Chinese EVs in the US and force competition to happen.
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fattybunter Apr 25, 2026 +1
Chinese car ban has nothing to do with Elon. It’s not just EVs, and there’s US strategic reasons obviously
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Pale_Change_666 Apr 25, 2026 +1
UAE as well
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Coneskater Apr 25, 2026 +1
Land of the free?
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hakenwithbacon Apr 25, 2026 +1
For the oligarchs
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HumanTraffic2 Apr 25, 2026 +1
In Shanghai now and there are many BYDs and they're very nice, also a bunch of other EVs that I have and haven't heard of. I'm Australia we have around 6 models, 10 or more by the end of the year. - Atto 3 - Dolphin - Deal - Sealion 6 - Sealion 7 - Shark 6 Coming: - Atto 1 - Atto 2 - Seal 6 - Sealion 5 - Sealion 8 Then there's other brands: - GWM - Jaecoo - Chery - lDV - MG - Leapmotor - Xpeng - Geely - Zeekr All picking up volume respective to their investment level.
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Inside-Line Apr 25, 2026 +1
In many developing countries, its not even the EVs that are taking center stage. Their PHEV vehicles are solid are the only real PHEV option that has solid battery-only range. Not to mention a good deal cheaper than the competition. They are eating Toyota market share for breakfast.
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iliveincanadaeh Apr 25, 2026 +1
You mean the largest car company in China, soon to come to Canada, does not need US market? They never did.
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hakenwithbacon Apr 25, 2026 +1
Well, the US is still one of the largest markets in the world in terms of purchasing power. Canada's population is about 1/8th of the US
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anengineerandacat Apr 25, 2026 +1
I mean they are in just about every market, so don't think they are wrong there. BYD is very popular in Brazil for EVs, supposedly like 7% of all vehicles by brand and 74% of electrified vehicles. Same goes for Thailand and other emerging market countries. US will likely cave at some point, BYD just needs to sweeten the pot and place some HQ somewhere and investors will be all over it after they have rebalanced their portfolios.
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darthreuental Apr 25, 2026 +1
TBH, it's kinda funny given that the current US administration is by far the most corrupt in history. All it would take is for the Chinese government to cut a check to the Donald J Trump Library and the EV ban would go away. And Musk would have to take it like the loser he is.
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luisa65-L Apr 25, 2026 +1
US automakers are absolutely thrilled they can keep selling $80k pickup trucks without having to actually compete.
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LumiereGatsby Apr 25, 2026 +1
Coming to Canada and I can’t wait! Really want to see them everywhere
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Vinen Apr 25, 2026 +1
TBH theyre one of the more medicore brands in China. I saw some wild shit living in Shanghai for a month. Xpeng makes some stuff that would wreck the Minivan ICE market. Makes Sienna Hybrid looks casual. My family lived off Didi (Chinas far superior version of Uber/Lyft) Premium XL and we saw a good set of the market.
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I_AM_STILL_A_IDIOT Apr 25, 2026 +1
My buddy in Shanghai bought himself a top of the line Avatr 06 sedan for like $30,000, thing was absolutely mint. Self-drives, interior finish was good, screens everywhere, good music setup. For the price of a c**** hatchback in Europe 😅
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nujabes02 Apr 25, 2026 +1
No v8
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The9isback Apr 25, 2026 +1
Xpeng, Zeekr, Denza (BYD's luxury arm) wrecks a lot of modern car brands. the Zeekr 009 and Denza D9 have already replaced the Alphard as the premium MPV.
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SY0123 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Who cares? It’s a car. It takes you from A to B is a great value for what you pay for. Not everything has to be a luxury brand.
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briancito Apr 25, 2026 +1
Speak for yourself, i cant wait to finance my next fancy ass suv for $1451/month for the next 9 years 🫦
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hoxwort Apr 25, 2026 +1
I won’t buy another vehicle made in the USA
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AcousticOnomatopoeia Apr 25, 2026 +1
As an American, I haven't bought an American car in 20 years, one Ford was enough, German ain't much better. Honda and Toyota for life!!
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VaultBall7 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Weird thing to flex that you’re against supporting your neighbors?
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AcousticOnomatopoeia Apr 25, 2026 +1
I'm against owning shitty and poorly-designed vehicles. Do better, America
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Legit_reddit_user Apr 25, 2026 +1
Honda and Toyota both manufacture cars in America
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austen_317 Apr 25, 2026 +1
I don’t think they are bud. Sorry.
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Equivalent_Song3771 Apr 25, 2026 +1
They are part of the 50,000 Chinese electric vehicles. The first BYD dealership permits have already been approved
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DeAndre_ROY_Ayton Apr 25, 2026 +1
Biggest head in sand comment I’ve seen in a while
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Toutatous Apr 25, 2026 +1
Google "BYD Canada" and see.
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PrivatePilot9 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Some are here already in testing and the dealerships are being built. This isn’t a question anymore, they’re coming.
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niceufo777 Apr 25, 2026 +1
They are very good vehicles, and very c****, I drove one and they are great, in emerging countries there are tons of them.
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hcornea Apr 25, 2026 +1
They are extremely popular, wherever they are not banned. And for good reason.
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ilic_mls Apr 25, 2026 +1
Of course they can. They make solid vehicles for lower overall price than European or US competitors. They will dominate lower income markets and are already taking a cut of the established makers in other “richer” markets. Sure it would be good if they could sell in the US but they dont have to.
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AccountHuman7391 Apr 25, 2026 +1
As an American, I would very much like to own one of these; please come to our market, k thx!
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kekehippo Apr 25, 2026 +1
Free market capitalism is just US propaganda when in reality US economy is just US protectionism.
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mechy84 Apr 25, 2026 +1
US petrol-tectionism
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Evil_Eg Apr 25, 2026 +1
Something the US and EU haven't realized is that there's a gigantic market in developing countries, in the Global South, in Africa, Asia, Latin America, and Oceania. The issue is that BYD and other Chinese manufacturers are willing to sell at lower prices and pursue these markets that are ignored and inaccessible due to economic reasons.
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KGB_cutony Apr 25, 2026 +1
Mostly agree, but I still think the idea that Chinese cars are just the cheaper option is not representative of the reality. Just BYD alone has the entry level Atto line (USD 10k range), the mid range Sealion and Dolphin (competes with Tesla model Y and 3 respectively) and the higher end Yangwang which is set around the Mercedes G wagon price point. Developing countries don't play the tariff games as much, so their prices can be knocked down. Making entry level Chinese offerings very palatable.
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kloakndaggers Apr 25, 2026 +1
very good cars. they are pretty much every single Uber black in Mexico City
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Silicon_Knight Apr 25, 2026 +1
The US is 6% of the market. Sure do they consume a lot? Yes but so do many other countries. Regarding households I'm talking about (not people) or about 2.19 billion households exist outside the US vs 137m in the US.
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blitzzo Apr 25, 2026 +1
6% of the global population, but 30% of the consumer market. Don't get me wrong BYD will be fine there are tons of car companies and specific models that aren't sold in the US, EU, or China which dominate the car market rankings and they manage to exist just fine but access to major markets certainly helps.
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The_BigDill Apr 25, 2026 +1
They have access to almost every market except America, they'll be fine Especially as more and more people in America struggle to afford a car
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wjames0394 Apr 25, 2026 +1
They sure look nicer than the Tesla
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GuaSukaStarfruit Apr 25, 2026 +1
BYD stocks aren’t 💀 I invested in them f me
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SpiritCrawler Apr 25, 2026 +1
It’s a shame they can’t sell in the U.S. market.
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AdonisK Apr 25, 2026 +1
Can it thrive without governmental subsidies though?
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zhaoz Apr 25, 2026 +1
Yea, the ccp needs to save that money for billionaire tax cuts for example and not strategically invest money in future growth areas!!
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Effective_Scheme2158 Apr 25, 2026 +1
“Strategically invest” They’re effectively creating a bubble inflating BYD value beyond what it actually worths
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rhnltnsy16 Apr 25, 2026 +1
That can be said for most car companies if not all.
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ruskyandrei Apr 25, 2026 +1
Probably not at the extremely c**** prices currently, though why would China stop subsidies when they are very successfully putting a lot of pressure on western car makers.
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Plenty_Complaint_192 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Are they “extremely c****” or do they look good because we have been dealt years of shit from car companies? Maybe the price benchmark set by Ford, Nissan, Toyota etc is just too high? iPhones cost $500 and sell for $1500 Who decided 3x the cost was the amount we should have to pay? If someone can make the same or better and be happy making profit at 2x the cost … that’s great.
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ReserveFormal3910 Apr 25, 2026 +1
BYD does get subsidies, but the main reason they can sell it so c**** is their vertical integration they control almost all aspects of production from the lithium mines and every little parts in the car they have almost no suppliers.
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old_ironlungz Apr 25, 2026 +1
Name a car company that takes zero subsidies. Go on, name them.
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Dr_SlapsMD Apr 25, 2026 +1
Yea but those are good, murican, white Jesus owned car companies so it's not the same. China don't have Jesus so their cars are sin. /s
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ilic_mls Apr 25, 2026 +1
So subsidies are a bad thing? How about a bailout? Is 80 billion given to US automakers just to help them survive ok? Or is it ok because they are not Chinese?
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garanvor Apr 25, 2026 +1
Can American car manufacturers survive without subsidies? Gotta love the double standards just because they’re Chinese.
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Toutatous Apr 25, 2026 +1
If you think that Ford or GM never got help from the government,.I have news for you...
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Creativator Apr 25, 2026 +1
This makes it sound like the Chinese people as a whole are sacrificing part of their wellbeing to artificially prop up BYD. Have you seen what China is able to do lately?
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Joltie Apr 25, 2026 +1
They already have enough scale to be able to survive, but they would not be able to be as competitive as right now.
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lordaddament Apr 25, 2026 +1
You’d be amazed how much lower prices can be when everyone isn’t skimming a ton off for themselves at every level of production
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fedroxx Apr 25, 2026 +1
Well, none of the US automakers can or have so not sure I understand the question.
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Dr_SlapsMD Apr 25, 2026 +1
Their system is working for them... Why would they handicap themselves for the equivalent of a "are ya chicken?" challenge? 🤣
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RecentSpecial181 Apr 25, 2026 +1
They are everywhere in Uzbekistan
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InvitinglyImperfect Apr 25, 2026 +1
You mean there’s more to the world than America?!?! Go figure! I guess I learn something every day!
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Basset_found Apr 25, 2026 +1
Sure would be nice if they were in the US. Not sure there are any c**** vehicles anymore. Just monster trucks and SUVs. 
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mrmcbreakfast Apr 25, 2026 +1
BYD stock will make me rich someday I hope
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Kilmonjaro Apr 25, 2026 +1
If you go to any country outside the US you’ll see them everywhere
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swiftpwns Apr 25, 2026 +1
Seems great until it spontaneously combusts in your garbage and burns your house down. Dont buy BYD, their batteries are not safe.
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trisul-108 Apr 25, 2026 +1
As long as they have unlimited support from the Chinese Communist Party, they cannot fail. For example, they are allowed not to pay their suppliers for 18 months ... who would not thrive in such an environment?
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ccs77 Apr 25, 2026 +1
Bruh, that's blatant lying. A quick search on Google you can find that the average payment term for chinese auto is 54months as of Feb. This is after a few car companies pledged to support their suppliers last year. https://chinaevhome.com/2025/06/11/bydgeelyxpengliautoamongautomakerstopledge60daysupplierpaymentterms/
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