I was recently in Detroit for work and decided to drive across to Windsor for an evening just to say I've been in Canada. Grabbed dinner and headed back where the border officer grilled me on where I ate, what I ate and the street the restaurant was on and how much i paid for parking. I wasn't prepared for the in depth questions and stumbled a bit and asked "why does it matter?". He sent me to the car check lane for further review.. the lane was over flowing with cars and another officer simply waved me on to keep driving.
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1337duck2 days ago
+244
Guy power tripping vs. Guy just doing their job.
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chth3 days ago
+92
Asking as a Windsorite, where did you eat and did you enjoy your time here?
When I was a boy, Windsor’s downtown was packed with Americans daily and we had a very vibrant night life. I wouldn’t say our city is run down now by any means but it’s certainly not Sin City as it used to be.
I spent my teen years crossing to Detroit almost weekly to see concerts at the Majestic Theatre, in my early 20s I dated a girl and spent lots of time and money in East Lansing, and in my later 20s my partner and I loved driving up Woodward to Royal Oak and Ferndale. We haven’t crossed since 2023 and I have no plans to for an indefinite amount of time and I really wish that was not the plan.
I am half Ojibwe with my “Indian Status” which actually entitles me to cross the border to live and work without a green card, but it also means I can be held without extradition if I’m charged with a crime. Too scary of a possibility that I cross the tunnel and never come back.
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archip2 days ago
+4
Nice try border guard!
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Used_Return90952 days ago
+11
is this only when crossing the border by land? I’ve flown in and out of the country so many times to and from asia and never had anything that intrusive
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RhubarbAfter40082 days ago
-95
I deeply resent Americans visiting Canada right now.
On the upside, it lets me enjoy a new hobby - flipping people off for driving vehicles with US plates.
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mods_diddle_kids2 days ago
+34
#whoa we got a badass over here
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RhubarbAfter40082 days ago
-4
Pfft, what else would I do?
"Go home and put out your house fire that's threatening to engulf my house, before you casually come over to visit" is too hard to convey with hand gestures.
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chappellesean2 days ago
+3
You could also just not do anything.
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BaconBitz1092 days ago
+16
Sure pal.
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Useful_Comfortable2 days ago
+15
Dude my family lives in Canada and I visit them regularly. I am a dual citizen with American plates on my car, but go off I guess.
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RhubarbAfter40082 days ago
-9
My family lives in the US and your country has made it pretty clear I won't be visiting them, so yes I still harbour resentment.
I mean I can get through the border, but given the power they have to make your life suck and the attitude I'd be an idiot to do it right now.
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keyUsers3 days ago
+344
> * The Chinese ministry said recently about 20 Chinese scholars traveled to the U.S. to attend an academic conference, but were subjected to "unreasonable questioning" by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers at the Seattle airport and were denied entry
> * The Chinese scholars were holding valid U.S. visas, the ministry said.
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gallopinbathroomtile3 days ago
+37
Are you saying it's related? Or you just don't care how border patrol acts because you don't like the Chinese?
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TripleSmokedBacon3 days ago
+111
In my line of work, I do business in China, including on projects that are more or less state-sponsored. In addition, because of where I lived in Canada, particularly in the Richmond and Burnaby area of British Columbia, I have known a number of Chinese Canadians.
For me, travel to China now requires no visa at all. Even when a visa was required, the process was straightforward and no more burdensome than travel formalities for countries such as Australia or Thailand.
The Chinese Canadians I know who regularly manage business between Canada and China also travel there frequently. I am not aware of any of them describing unusual scrutiny or extraordinary difficulties when returning to China.
Personally, I have never experienced especially difficult questioning when entering China. I am not sure why I would. Chinese business culture places a high value on structure and procedure. One follows the required process and avoids unnecessary problems.
I am well aware of abuses against Uyghurs in China, very well aware. However, if you were to ask many ordinary Chinese citizens in Henan, for example, what life in China is like, or whether they feel oppressed, they would likely find the question confusing (your statement).
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aloudasian3 days ago
-18
I’ll give you a counter example. I work in tech for a large international firm. We do business in China but everything and I mean everything on the Chinese side of the business is isolated. When I visit China for work or pleasure I’m not allowed to bring anything that has network access to the non-Chinese side of the business. That includes my personal phone with work email and Slack access. Instead we’re given temporary laptops with restricted and monitored access, which are physically disposed of when we return. Not wiped, literally set on fire until it’s a melted pile of hazardous waste. All because of commercial espionage and confiscations by Chinese immigration.
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mordiksplz3 days ago
+77
So your own company enforces these restrictions and you're using rhat as an example of china's travel guidelines and rules being restrictive? You do defense work.
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ChiefBassDTSExec2 days ago
-13
Regardless of if it’s defense or not, the company made that policy for a reason. There’s decades of evidence of China targeting non-government companies to steal. They don’t do it in a “respected” way like the traditional intelligence agency. They use their citizens, students, etc to do it. It has cost businesses trillions in R&D to get to that point. China steals it and reverse engineers it bypassing all of that research and development phase
Frankly, certain Chinese citizens such as academics or people who are coming to work in specific sectors should be questioned and investigated to ensure they’re here for non-malicious reasons. It’s called protecting your businesses and intellectual property.
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aloudasian2 days ago
I don't support the abuse of foreign nationals, academics, immigrants nor refugees by DHS, nor do I justify actions by the US government just because some other foreign government does something similar or worse. But people need to realize that there are legitimate reasons and causes behind increased scrutiny because of things like corporate espionage, IP theft, and worse.
There have been multiple cases of such, often investigated and prosecuted across multiple administrations. To give a few examples, [a married couple of research scientists from China stripped of American citizenship because they stole healthcare IP](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-judge-revokes-naturalization-married-couple-who-conspired-steal-medical-trade), [a Chinese national convicted of conspiring to hack US defense contractors](https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/chinese-national-who-conspired-hack-us-defense-contractors-computer-systems-sentenced), and that same[ convicted Chinese hacker recruiting a USAF pilot to train PLAAF pilots after he was released from prison](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-us-air-force-pilot-arrested-providing-defense-services-chinese-military).
Beyond that, consider for a moment why so many of the world's biggest corporations, motivated only by profit, have either scaled back or pulled out of China entirely. People may not realize that to operate in China, the CCP requires foreign companies to enter into joint ventures with Chinese firms, mandates the disclosure of IP and trade secrets, and enforces the hosting of all data on Chinese servers. It is forced IP theft codified in law, the price of doing business in China. Let's be honest Google or Meta did not stay out of China because they have some moral compass they follow and refused to do the CCP's bidding, they are motivated only by profit and they've decided even with the massive Chinese market, the price they would have to pay is simply too high.
So while the US undeniably has a responsibility to uphold our own values and treat everyone with dignity, we cannot turn a blind eye towards reality simply because it is uncomfortable. Because I can guarantee you the CCP would love nothing more than to continue its exploitation of moral high grounds it views as systemic weaknesses.
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aloudasian2 days ago
-15
The restrictions are only for China, and I don’t work in defense. The company is public and has well over 100k employees so such decisions are not insignificant. Why do you think people would go to such lengths if there’s no need for these policies?
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allchokedupp3 days ago
+66
That doesn't sound like these unusual questioning and detentions that Chinese nationals are getting
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aloudasian3 days ago
-15
It was a response to the comment about the lack of unusual scrutiny or difficulty traveling to China, not about the treatment of Chinese nationals coming to the US.
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garathe23 days ago
+16
The worst that I've ever gotten from chinese immigrations was the officer asking me to write my name in chinese because I am a CBC.
Other than that, I have never gotten hassled by immigrations, and I head to china at least twice a year.
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MageLocusta3 days ago
+50
Okay, so let's assume that the Chinese government does this too.
Does that mean it's okay for us to do the same?
That it's also okay to join in because 'other countries do it to'?
Because I don't know about you, saying the 'He/She's doing it too!!" argument never f****** worked in a US school setting. Don't know where you got the idea that it works in real life.
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xX609s-hartXx3 days ago
-69
Where did I say it's okay? I called it a police state.
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MageLocusta3 days ago
+27
Okay. Then what's your point in your comment above (which btw, you said fuckall about 'calling it a police state').
Have you honestly never met anyone that came from a corrupt town or state? Anyone that has to live with day-to-day bullshit, but occasionally travels--hoping to get a break from being treated like shit?
Because based on your comment: the answer sounds like a' f*** no'.
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Lopsided_Tiger_02963 days ago
+57
What American propaganda have you been watching lol
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technobrendo2 days ago
+12
All of it apparently.
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37GreaterThan45473 days ago
+51
Magat
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vingeran3 days ago
+23
Wow. Just wow
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xX609s-hartXx3 days ago
-100
No seriously, what do you think happens when they get back to China? How many papers do they have to sign while getting their luggage searched? It seems odd any Chinese person would complain about a police state.
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random3143 days ago
+41
Tell me. What exactly happens? Sounds like you've been there a lot.
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xX609s-hartXx3 days ago
-32
With scientist guys like this? They'll probably get roasted for hours, trying to piece together all the new stuff they learned to find out if that's enough to backengineer something or if it's a good target for further espionage.
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mooowolf3 days ago
+28
sounds to me like you have no f****** clue
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xX609s-hartXx2 days ago
-8
Sounds to me like I don't care about your opinion.
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macross19843 days ago
+696
Really, not a good time for people outside visiting US now.
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PopePiusVII3 days ago
+350
It sucks as a citizen coming into the country too. Coin flip as to whether you get a “welcome back!” or a “stand behind the f****** line until I call you.”
I really don’t recommend travel to the US right now. If you hate this administration, the best thing you can do is help tank tourism to the US.
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musiccman20203 days ago
+71
I wasn't a good time to visit the u.s. since 9 /11.
Was visiting my ex in santa barbara in 2011. Got pulled aside because the fattest guy I ever saw ( tsa) didn't understand I could you leave my job for 5 months.
Didn't help I wasn't white.
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VillageIdiot512 days ago
+2
well yeah you might be a terrorist.
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OpSecBestSex3 days ago
-116
To be fair why are you crossing the line when you're not called?
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PopePiusVII3 days ago
+72
Because I was going up with my husband like every other married couple.
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Reasonable-Gas56253 days ago
+20
Especially if you forgot to be white.
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Mayor__Defacto3 days ago
-87
Just get Global Entry, you just show someone an app screenshot while you walk past.
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PopePiusVII3 days ago
+51
GE doesn’t help if you get a shitty agent. Just speeds up the process.
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Mayor__Defacto3 days ago
-18
What POE is this if I may ask? My wife and I use the App when we enter, and so they don’t even ask any questions. We don’t use a formal booth.
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PopePiusVII3 days ago
+24
It’s been multiple on the east coast. That’s as specific as I’ll get. But again, it’s hit or miss. A few very bad agents, but besides them fine and professional ones in my experience.
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Distryer3 days ago
+22
They have been canceling global entry for people that have been critical of government recently
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veltrop3 days ago
+10
Very few non-US citizens actually qualify for this.
Its just yet another system for rich americans to bypass rules.
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Mayor__Defacto3 days ago
-2
Anyone with permanent residency qualifies. If you’re traveling outside the country regularly you should probably be signing up for it.
Not sure what rules you think are being bypassed; it saves everyone plenty of time. The more Americans use it, the quicker the border gets for noncitizens as well.
My wife gets questioned more by her home country’s border officials upon exiting than by US CBP.
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PopePiusVII3 days ago
-4
You follow the same rules, you just have an expedited line since they don’t have to check any of your documents upon re-entry. Usually just ask if you have anything to declare and then wave you through. Occasionally you will get secondary screening or more thorough questions like everyone else.
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TLKv33 days ago
+66
Yep. I'm a neighbor and I adamantly refuse to even touch the US border on the miserably off chance I get heavily questioned *or worse*.
Even having layovers there can f*** off. I rather pay more for a direct flight so I don't ever have to set foot in that country at all.
F*** em.
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No_Gur11133 days ago
+38
I’m in Canada and my husband’s company recently paid an extra $5k to avoid him having to connect through the US on his last flight to Norway.
They usually fly him business class but the only thing available was first class and they didn’t bat an eyelash. He didn’t even have to ask, it was their insistence that he avoid flying in US airspace.
I’m sure it was more to do with him potentially being held up with all the shutdowns, because him being there for this testing was pretty crucial and would cost the company a lot more than an extra few thousand bucks. But he wasn’t complaining about it.
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CLGToady3 days ago
+7
I like how the beginning of your comment implies that they did this out of fear for his safety and then the last paragraph just admits that it wasn't about safety. It was about the shutdowns lol
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No_Gur11133 days ago
+15
And I love how you’re putting words in my mouth.
Nowhere did I imply that it was fear of his safety; I was responding to a comment about people (or in this case a company) spending more money to avoid layovers in the USA with such an example of someone doing so.
If I wanted to imply that it was fear for his safety, I’d have left out that entire last paragraph to further that narrative. I didn’t have to add that. F*** me for trying to be fair and honest, right?
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CLGToady2 days ago
-14
Saying "it's was their insistence that he avoid flying in US airspace" sounds like you're implying that it's a serious safety concern. Not that they were just worried about a delay. Thank you for clarifying in the last paragraph, I just thought it was funny. Everywhere I look online people seem to be wording things extremely carefully to be as alarmist as possible which is why the phrasing stood out to me
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ComedianExtreme75222 days ago
+4
I mean why else. Use some common sense man. Any company would choose the cheaper option whenever they can with the bare minimum in mind. And this company paid *first class* for *one dude* so he can specifically avoid a layover in America lol. They did that because they know how stupid the current administration and something could happen that might stop him from leaving.
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CodCommercial86082 days ago
+1
A delay still reflects badly on our country. TSA was already an atrocious nightmare, but our Congress not properly funding things made it so much worse. We Americans have gotten used to things we used to abhor in other countries.
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Fickle_Map24333 days ago
-15
As someone that travels to the States a decent amount… nothing has changed at the border lol, you should really try to not base your opinions off of random listnook comments
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forgottenoldusername2 days ago
+1
You can tell which part of Canada you live in then lol
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PrincessNakeyDance3 days ago
+13
It’s really not a good time for anyone to be interacting with the US right now. Unless you’re MAGA elite everything sucks.
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brianatlarge3 days ago
Come back after we’ve taken our meds in 3 years (maybe).
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Pumpkins_Are_Fruits3 days ago
-3
How so? Be honest.
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Crypt33x3 days ago
-9
Yeah lets cancel the WM.
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incessant_penguin3 days ago
+134
Australia did the same today - got the warning in my email and was like, “yeah… no shit”
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mpbh3 days ago
+152
I'm a retired American who travels full time. I never get grilled harder than when I return to America. Especially since I only return every 1-2 years, they ask me *a lot* about my finances.
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TripleSmokedBacon3 days ago
+52
When I came to Canada as a student (completed my education and am now dual citizen of U.S. and Canada) it was always, always the U.S. Border Services that were the complete assholes.
I travelled very often to the States (from British Columbia) to attend various courses in Seattle.
I will never forget the U.S. Border P**** that fucked with me and threatened secondary for "not answering his questions correctly". LOL. The jerk asked me a couple of questions, "Why are you coming into the U.S." and "Oh, where is your class at" but then followed up with "Where is home?"
So, being a little taken aback, I asked him if he meant where my present address is or my country, or place of birth? He looked at me like I was some kind of nasty insect and I could see his face getting a little red so he more loudly and aggressively asked his question. My second response was, "Well, I live in Victoria, BC. That's where I call home." His face got even more red and he repeated even more aggressively, "No, I'm asking where you were born!" This is when I was told/asked if I "wanted my car ripped apart"...
LOL. It was always some kind of variation on that type of assertiveness and aggression.
Likewise, I will never forget the first time returning back to Canada from the States. "What was the purpose of your travel? Where do you live?" followed by, "Welcome home". Welcome Home. A sentiment I've never heard from anyone from U.S. Border services, ever.
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binzoma2 days ago
+9
when I first moved overseas from canada, that first trip home after 18 months, getting that 'welcome home' in pearson after like 36 hours of travel damn near had me in tears. its those little things eh
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ryenaut2 days ago
+9
US BP have no checks and balances for mistreating people. Fascist thugs the lot of them.
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Captain_Wag2 days ago
+1
It depends who you get. One border partol asked me "are you an American citizen?" and I replied "no I'm f****** Chinese" and he just laughed and waved me on. Am white male for reference, so your mileage may vary tbh.
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KoalaBoy3 days ago
+23
I use to travel pre Covid a lot and going into any country or coming back into the states was always like playing 20 questions. Then Covid happened and life events that I haven’t been able to afford leaving the country until recently. Went to two countries, one country didn’t say a word to me even going in or out, just scanned my passport and waved me on. Second asked how my flight was as he waved me through and then coming back into the country I go to pull my passport out and the guy says I don’t need anything and had my picture taken, it dinged and got waved on.
All I could do was like just look around every time like wtf because it was definitely not that easy any time before when I went international. It was always where are you staying, where are you going, who are you seeing, why are you coming, what’s in your bag, what’s the name of your first born, what’s your mothers maiden name.
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Endless_Summer_01063 days ago
+10
I am not an American. Why would they ask so many questions to a citizen? I thought citizens have the right to enter anyways. I don’t think I’ve ever had any questions asked when I entered my country.
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mpbh3 days ago
+24
I don't understand it either. In countries where I'm not a citizen I just get "what's the purpose of your trip, how long, where are you staying"
US Border Control wants to know details of my trip abroad, my work history, finances, residential history, family details, etc. It's incredibly invasive but if you refuse to answer it feels like it creates many more problems.
I actually have no idea what our rights are here ... I know we aren't supposed to be denied entry, but being taken back for further questioning would be a very scary experience given how these guys like to power trip.
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fallingdowndizzyvr2 days ago
+15
I am a US citizen and I've gotten the third degree on return to the US. Which is so contrary to the welcome I get in other countries coming in as a foreigner. In fact, many countries don't say a word to me beyond "Hello". They scan my passport and then waive me through.
In the US, especially at LAX, I have gotten the third degree. Where have you been? How long have you been there? What is your job? Are you married? Got any kids? Hm...... I'm not so sure about your passport, do you have any other ID like a credit card with your picture on it? WTF! A passport is the ultimate form of ID. It was issued by the same department you work for. If I'm not in a hurry, I tend to ask to speak to a supervisor if it goes on too long. Which is the same as asking for a secondary. But it's worth it for me to make a stand. But to their credit, most supervisors are very apologetic and just pass me through. It's the frontline agents that have attitude.
This was long before the current administration. So you can't blame it on Trump. It's the American way.
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Aggressive-Fail46123 days ago
+5
I’m not going home at all. I miss my family but they can meet me in Europe or Asia or some other friendly country. I’m not dealing with US customs. Just my luck they would detain my wife for visiting.
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NetZeroSun3 days ago
+5
I wonder if they start asking about finances and want people to unlock their phone.
Which can include access to your financial apps (bank, investment, retirement) or password apps.
I mean if they get access to our bank apps what can we do?
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mpbh3 days ago
+3
I always wonder, what are our rights here? Obviously no one wants to get detained for more questioning, but I feel like we are absolutely at their mercy at the border. I fully understand wanting to stop drugs or shady cash coming over the border, but how far are they legally allowed to probe outside of that? It's such a grey area and it gives me a ton of anxiety.
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fallingdowndizzyvr2 days ago
+5
> I always wonder, what are our rights here?
Not much. The laws give the authorities pretty broad powers anywhere close to the border. Things that would be illegal far from the border are perfectly legal close to the border.
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NetZeroSun3 days ago
+2
I mean most people have no problem if they check for drugs or weapons or what not in their luggage outside the inconvenience of extra time and questions.
But when they want your phone unlocked and passwords which also has your financial apps and walk away for several hours.
I get a sense of dread what they could be stealing.
Even two factor authentication may be tied to one device that they have in their hands.
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fallingdowndizzyvr2 days ago
+1
> But when they want your phone unlocked and passwords which also has your financial apps and walk away for several hours.
They have full access to your phone on demand. That's what the courts have ruled. No warrant needed. Carry a burner or wipe it before coming back to the US.
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fallingdowndizzyvr2 days ago
-2
That's why you carry a burner phone when you travel. Or at least back it up to the cloud and wipe it before coming back to the US. By law, you have no expectation of privacy. They have full access to your phone on demand. No warrant needed.
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No_Gur11132 days ago
It’s absolutely crazy that such ridiculous hoops have to be jumped through just to travel unhindered.
If the USA IS so free, why do people have to work so hard to hide who they are? It boggles my mind a little.
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awesomegirl51001 day ago
+2
I lived in South Korea for school and returned to the US in 2021, and I have never had such an invasive questioning. Over 15 minutes for them to let a citizen back in. It literally took me less time to go through border control as a temporary resident in South Korea.
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Jimmeh_Jazz3 days ago
+67
Would love to know what they were asked.
This kind of thing is the reason one of the conferences I attended last year decided not to hold the 2027 one in the US.
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UsuallyStoned2473 days ago
+28
“Do you love our orange pig god?”
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NH7873 days ago
+5
"Praise be the name of the orange porcine overlord"
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MedvedFeliz2 days ago
+5
[Have you ever been a member of the Chinese Communist Party?](https://youtube.com/shorts/c8dctPC3c4A?si=Z59MsUTs1l2qcalN)
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TheRealWatermelon4202 days ago
+2
Hooolay
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plan_with_stan3 days ago
+30
Honestly, I normally go to the US several times a year. My main purpose is for meetings with clients we do events with. Since trump started his little ice age, we have had to downgrade involvement by 75% in our US based business engagement.
We had planned to travel to the states this year for our annual holiday, whole family. Do a cross country trip from LA to NY… We have since abandoned this plan out of fear we will get arrested or questioned and then shipped off to some facility.
Every time I travel to the states and I’m at immigration I feel like I’m guilty until proven otherwise. The questions, the demeanor, the attitude and just outright scare tactics used make coming to the US a scary experience and is just a stress factor I’m not willing to deal with.
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TheCriticalAmerican2 days ago
+3
\> Every time I travel to the states and I’m at immigration I feel like I’m guilty until proven otherwise.
Technically, this is true. Immigration Law always assumes your intent is to immigrant even if you have a valid non-immigrant visa. It is called Immigrant Intent (https://global.vcu.edu/students/immigration/immigrant-intent/):
> U.S. immigration law operates on a foundational presumption—rooted in Section 214(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)—that every foreign national applying for a nonimmigrant (temporary) visa intends to remain in the U.S. permanently.
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plan_with_stan2 days ago
+5
That’s intense, i had no idea. And I really don’t know how to feel about this.
On one hand - yeah makes sense that’s your sole job - make sure the borders are not overrun by people who are planning to stay illegally, and if you are intent - you should stop them.
On the other hand… it feels a little conceited to assume everyone wants to stay. I don’t mean to be rude or disrespectful but that’s just a weird feeling.
(Also forgive me if my wording or vocabulary is incorrect, English isn’t my first language)
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dessanct3 days ago
+25
I went to Hungary last year and I almost got detained at the airport after clearing security because I was speaking English. It wasn’t until my mother-in-law came over and spoke to them in Hungarian that they zipped up my suitcase and instantly let me go.
NGL this shit happens everywhere, even in the EU.
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Crypt33x3 days ago
+27
You mean Hungary under Orban, which is/was Putins b**** and was Russian aligned for the last 16 years and hate the US/UK, were unfriendly to you? Im as shocked as a German visiting Poland in the 90ies.
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dessanct3 days ago
+7
As an American visiting with my partner who is a dual citizen? Yeah…
It’s the same in the EU as America. They’re no different lol. I’ve also been questioned in France, Scotland and Iceland even after security for all of them.
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Crypt33x3 days ago
-6
Yeah in the 90ies. Not in 2026 in most EU countries. I can also remember those border checks, questions and controls, but over 30 years ago. Im polish/german, so visiting Poland with a german license plate was always like this in the 90ies, until they saw my polish lastname.
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dessanct3 days ago
+4
No, within the last 2-3 years it’s happened to me in these countries.
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Crypt33x3 days ago
-8
Yeah a few countries/people still got these "cold war" checkpoint controls or atleast the mindset. Growing up in West-Berlin im kinda used to them, since we had them everytime we left Berlin. Crossed Checkpoint Charlie and other a few dozen times. But not had any in Europe for the last 15 years.
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angelus143 days ago
+17
Were they looking for JD Vance memes?
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AnomalyNexus3 days ago
+18
Yup. US border was easily the most hostile I’ve ever encountered - by a large margin. And I’m a western looking white male - guessing I got the light treatment
Not planning to travel there for tourism any time soon. Lots of better places to explore till they get their shit together
Even the Israeli border was better and those guys are intense. US was more rude than serious
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Lady_Litreeo3 days ago
+6
My first international travel was from the US to Canada. I had brought some chile powder and green chile soup mix for my boyfriend and flagged myself for agriculture just in case. Ended up getting grilled, except they didn’t care about the spices at all. They seemed to be making sure I wasn’t being trafficked. Was stressful for sure but in hindsight, I appreciate their concern.
Heading back to the US is either getting glanced at and waved through or standing in a line and getting yelled at about whether or not I should keep my shoes on.
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Virtual-Abalone29872 days ago
+1
About a year ago my coworker was crossing at the Niagara Falls border. He was simply asked "What are your thoughts on Donald Trump?" and for some reason instead of just saying he had no real opinion he jokingly said "I'm glad he isn't my leader". That was enough to be told to turn around and try again another day.
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charlton113 days ago
+16
We really are becoming that one country in the Middle East.
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Seagoon_Memoirs3 days ago
-6
Iran?
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DyingGasp3 days ago
+4
Considering our president answers to Netanyahu, aids in genocide, and funds their government? I’d say Isreal.
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Seagoon_Memoirs3 days ago
+4
netanyahu has his own agenda
trump answers to putin
and putin is a genocidaire
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frogsRfriends2 days ago
+1
lol trump answers to bibi 100000% more than him answering to Putin
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StainRemovalService3 days ago
+5
Stay away from that shit hole.
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Alone_Again_23 days ago
+3
Canadian here.
My kid has to regularly fly to the USA for his job.
I f****** hate it.
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GroundbreakingPage413 days ago
+3
I mean they’re not wrong but don’t they do the same thing?
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Every-Development3983 days ago
+2
"Are you a spy" THE OPPOSITION.
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tolley2 days ago
+1
>'malicious questioning'
This is a good way to describe it. To the non American's: just answer their questions, and don't incriminate yourself (lesson learned from exp). If you are breaking the law, be quiet and tell them you want a lawyer.
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knightsofgel3 days ago
-18
The US sucks right now but this is rich coming from china
Edit: so we’re just going to pretend China doesn’t also arbitrarily detain and interrogate people? Lmao
No one should visit either country
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Sea-Cheesecake3013 days ago
-12
These people are just willfully ignorant.
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throwmeeeeee3 days ago
+24
Wilfully ignorant is an interesting choice of words.
What do you think about the other countries that have issued warnings about travelling to the US?
Australia
Belgium
Canada
China
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
United Kingdom
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Sea-Cheesecake3013 days ago
-22
lol maybe take some vitamins to improve your reading comprehension.
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throwmeeeeee3 days ago
+6
* I expressed amusement at your choice of words
* Asked for your opinion on countries with a higher freedom index that have also expressed concern for the safety of their citizens while travelling to the US
Which part do you think I misunderstood?
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angelus143 days ago
-8
Isn't that worse? They're used to it but even they found it excessive
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[deleted]3 days ago
-14
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CragedyJones3 days ago
+20
I had the same thing happen to me with US immigration. Unless the visa has changed I assume it still asks which address you will be staying at and they won't let you in until you fill it out.
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[deleted]3 days ago
-9
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MageLocusta3 days ago
Yeah they do. When you fly from Georgia to Florida, you do have to complete a form confirming which address you're staying in.
This was back in 2017. And I highly doubt that the administration that's trying to cram ICE into all airports are stopping it.
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WillSmiff3 days ago
+13
It's gotten to the point where you 🤡s are like, "Well Russia and China have shitty policies too!"
I've traveled to every continent and only shitty places with shitty governments treat people like.....shit.
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Twiroxi3 days ago
Hell I live in Finland and even I wouldn't try my luck coming to the US rn
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Upper-Exchange2262 days ago
If you wouldn't visit somalia then you shouldn't visit the united states of epstein either
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BigDaddyDumperSquad3 days ago
-17
Tends to happen when Chinese citizens keep trying to smuggle biological samples into the US...
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giants7072 days ago
+2
This is a really good point.
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BigDaddyDumperSquad2 days ago
+1
Listnookors really don't want to hear it though. Hell, they've found full-on CCP biolabs in the US. It's easier to plug your ears a cry racism, so that's what they'll do instead of being intellectually and morally consistent.
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giants7072 days ago
+1
Im aware. sadly I believe a lot of these "Listnookors" are bots/foreign agitators so it would make sense to be unaware of counterpoints.
You can't really take listnook comments seriously anymore.
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BigDaddyDumperSquad2 days ago
+1
True. I wish Listnook would add a Captcha every time someone posts/comments. Seems like it'd be extremely easy to implement.
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bmbreath2 days ago
+1
What are you talking about?
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BigDaddyDumperSquad2 days ago
+1
Google "Chinese citizens bio sample smuggling" and look at the growing number of people caught doing it.
Here's a copy/paste rundown from Google:
In June 2025, U.S. federal authorities at Detroit Metropolitan Airport (DTW) arrested and charged several Chinese nationals with smuggling dangerous, regulated biological materials into the United States, intended for research at the University of Michigan. The incidents involved concealed materials, including a plant-killing fungus and, in separate cases, worms, which were linked to potential agricultural threats.
Key Incidents and Individuals (2025):
Yunqing Jian & Zunyong Liu (June 2025): Two Chinese researchers (a postdoc at the University of Michigan and her boyfriend) were charged with smuggling Fusarium graminearum, a fungus that causes head blight in wheat, barley, and rice. Liu was caught at Detroit Metro Airport with the fungus concealed in tissues in his backpack.
Chengxuan Han (June 9, 2025): A Ph.D. student from Wuhan, China, was arrested at Detroit Metro Airport for smuggling biological materials related to roundworms (nematodes). She admitted to sending multiple unauthorized packages of biological materials to the University of Michigan.
Additional Detentions (Nov 2025): Three additional Chinese nationals were arrested at JFK International Airport attempting to leave the U.S. after an investigation linked them to similar illegal shipments of biological material.
Key Details of the Cases:
The Pathogen: Fusarium graminearum, found in the initial case, is considered a "potential agroterrorism weapon" that can destroy crops, causing severe economic damage, and produces toxins that can harm humans and animals.
Method of Smuggling: Materials were found hidden in books, envelopes, or carried in clothing, lacking proper agricultural import permits.
Charges: The individuals face charges including conspiracy, smuggling goods, making false statements, and visa fraud.
University Response: The University of Michigan stated they condemned these actions and noted they received no funding from the Chinese government related to the accused researchers' work.
These arrests were described by federal officials as a crackdown on illegal, unauthorized transport of sensitive materials from China.
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Borne2Run3 days ago
-25
Maybe don't have your (PRC) citizens plant IEDa outside [Macdill AFB then](https://www.fox13news.com/news/macdill-afb-bomb-plot-court-docs-show-ied-details-suspect-remains-china-sister-custody). F****** worst false flag attempt in history.
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jaan_dursum2 days ago
Serious question: could this be typical CCP media propaganda during essentially one of the worst moments between the US and China?
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Icy_Walrus_50352 days ago
That’s rich coming from a country that has a policy to relentlessly question foreigners about anything they disagree with…
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Sporken43 days ago
-22
I’d rather be Muslim in America than China 😁
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don000003 days ago
-27
Good…you’re entering our country from whats essentially an enemy nation.
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Tango-Down-1673 days ago
-14
Wouldn't reduce the queue for us visa.
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pitshands3 days ago
-9
Days the country which forced a*** temperature taking in COVID from foreign visitors.
Not saying what happens when you arrive here as a foreigner is overly friendly, never was, but let's be fair here
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BuvantduPotatoSpirit3 days ago
-11
You're just getting that now, eh?
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kumgongkia3 days ago
-29
Why would we want to visit North Korea?
Oh wait it's not North Korea...
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