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News & Current Events Apr 15, 2026 at 5:47 PM

China tests deep-sea electro-hydrostatic actuator that can cut undersea cables at a depth of 3,500 meters

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China tests deep-sea electro-hydrostatic actuator that can cut undersea cables at a depth of 3,500 meters — state hails successful trial and hints at deployment readiness
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China tests deep-sea electro-hydrostatic actuator that can cut undersea cables at a depth of 3,500 meters — state hails successful trial and hints at deployment readiness
Testing was conducted by a 'research vessel,' but the development has clear military implications

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microtramp 3 days ago +80
Finally, a use for all these self-sealing stem bolts.
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VESUVlUS 3 days ago +19
Aw damn, and here I just traded all of mine away to a couple kids for 5,000 cases of yamok sauce.
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got-trunks 3 days ago +2
5000 cases of yamok sauce? What are you going to do with all that?
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Tumifaigirar 3 days ago +5
Damn take every upvote I have
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has_left_the_gam3 4 days ago +1470
No. Nobody should be making these. We have enough problems as it is.
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TemptedTemplar 3 days ago +935
You don't "repair" cables and pipes at that depth. You cut out the damage and replace the section entirely. It's nefarious uses are obvious, but it was made with a proper purpose in mind.
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bendover912 3 days ago +222
Besides, dragging an anchor is way cheaper and appears less intentional.
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Zestyclose_Data5100 3 days ago +110
Not sure if there are any ships with 3500m of anchor chain....
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BNB_Laser_Cleaning 3 days ago +55
If there is a will, they will have one that long
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Tiggy26668 3 days ago +63
Just checked with my friend Will, can confirm he keeps his 3500m of anchor chain next to his BBQ grill.
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Jkbucks 3 days ago +12
That’s chill Will
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Memory_Less 3 days ago +3
Sometimes known as Chill-Chain Will.
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huhwhuh 3 days ago +1
He's the cousin of Real Deal Bill.
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Possibly_Naked_Now 3 days ago +9
just the weight of the chain would be more than most ships could move.
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BNB_Laser_Cleaning 3 days ago +2
Tankers frequently carry much more, and are the perfect excuseable vessel
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oldregard 3 days ago +4
Rocky built 5km in like 5 mins idk
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subject133 3 days ago +2
You can just throw a depth charge if you like, which will cause much more damage than a simple cut.
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hagenissen999 3 days ago +1
They don't usually reach the bottom.
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InconspicuousWarlord 3 days ago +1
Not with that attitude.
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Fromundacheese0 3 days ago +119
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
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TemptedTemplar 3 days ago +125
They definitely don't need this to cause harm or cut cables as Russia has shown. So long as you know where it is, a ship anchor does the job just as well. Unless the US has some secret military base at the bottom of the Pacific only China knows about, this is almost certainly intended to save on deep dive time.
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ooaegisoo 3 days ago +25
You cannot drag an anchor at 3500 meter deep
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TemptedTemplar 3 days ago +72
There's no need to cut cables at that depth either, aside from repairs. Cables you would want to cut to remove a country from the global network would be best cut in shallow waters ~150m max. Because it's easier to cut, monitor and eventually repair. You could plunge MOST of the Pacific ocean into complete internet blackout without needing this device at all.
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Wolf_In_The_Weeds 3 days ago -5
The way I see it, it has nothing to do with need, but difficulty of repair and down time. Working on shit from 3500m is wildly harder and time consuming than 150m. This is a weapon.
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Tidzor 3 days ago +2
I doubt you could just drop a dumb mine down and accurately hit something the size of a cable 3500m below the surface, any strong current would just deviate it, wouldn't it? Besides, I don't see why it wouldn't be used for both repairs and sabotaging now it's developed, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Not sure if there's a reason the other user got downvoted but repairing cables at 3000+ meters below the surface does sound a lot harder and costlier than sending human divers at 100m, from what I read it's an almost industrial level of work in comparison. So you're crippling your enemy a lot longer in theory, if you cut multiple cables simultaneously.
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Wolf_In_The_Weeds 3 days ago
At 3500meters a anchor drag? Nah man. Same with a mine….is there any history of mines hitting a target at that depth? You imagine the currents on the way down for a “dumb” mine to work?
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drainisbamaged 3 days ago +2
ROV Jason has a 6km+ tether, and it's the size of a minivan. An anchor is far less complicated a device.
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TacTurtle 3 days ago -4
Never heard of a bottom trawler? You can absolutely drag an anchor 4000m down on a cable or line. if you really wanted.
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Tidzor 3 days ago +3
There's no anchor chain in the world, even on bottom trawlers, that can reach 3500m. And you would still need specialised equipment / vessels at this depth you were to use a cable instead of a chain. Aiming it would also likely be really difficult, the cable would form an immense catenary curve and you'd be dragging it over kilometers hoping to hit a few cm thick cable. At this point you may as well just bring a repair ship along and dig up the cable.
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great_whitehope 3 days ago -6
Russia has dropped anchor several times unsuccessfully on European cables
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TemptedTemplar 3 days ago +14
The point being, that was at a depth of 50 to 500m maximum. You don't need to invent a new fancy tool capable of diving 3,500m to pose a threat.
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Saalor100 3 days ago +3
China have successfully dropped anchor on European cabels.
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_HIST 3 days ago +9
That is absolutely not how you use this quote... Whatever
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Kriztauf 3 days ago +2
The road to hell is paved with Klondike bars
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kekehippo 3 days ago +5
America thought about vitamin D deficiency and decided to create and use two artificial suns.
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Abizuil 3 days ago +11
Yes of course brand new account that coincidentally only shows up to defend the CCP, it's yellow peril and jingoism and definitely not the CCPs autocratic nature and ever increasing militarization that makes people cautious of them and their intentions.
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Abizuil 3 days ago
How was my post an adhom? Unless you take pointing out how fresh your account is as a personal attack (which is exactly as softskinned as a CCP propagandist would be expected to be, to be fair), you ignore that I do in fact point out why people have a genuine reason to be skeptical of any "its not for evil purposes, promise" claim from the CCP.
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Used-Examination1439 3 days ago +10
I still don’t understand how undersea cables work. Do they just start from the area that needs connection and end in the area and also needs it ? So are these like thousand mile cords that are thick ?
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TemptedTemplar 3 days ago +50
Literally a giant spool of cable on big ship, dropped into the ocean. And yes. They can get very thick, older copper cables would get up to a foot in diameter. Newer fiber optic cables are usually a few inches thick. Before the spool ends they use a second ship with another spool, splice the ends together and then swap positions. And just keep going until it reaches the other end. https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/internet-undersea-cables-intl-hnk
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r80rambler 3 days ago +21
They’re thick all right. Not straight though, they have optical amplifiers in them and also can split out. You might have a cable from the US east coast that connects at several points in Brazil and further south.
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Used-Examination1439 3 days ago +21
It’s actually insane we were able to logistically do this if you think about it. Wild operation !
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_HIST 3 days ago +17
I mean we're planning a moon base this decade, humans are wild when we're not being pieces of shit
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r80rambler 3 days ago +4
If you get a chance to tour a cable ship, they're pretty cool. They'll basically park at a factory and have the cable fabricated and loaded at the same time while the ship is tied up, then put to sea to lay it. If somethign happens to a cable at sea, they have to find, cut, and then hoist each side, perform the splice or needed operation, then drop it back down again. Pretty cool stuff, and a lot of history if you can find a documentary on the subject.
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Used-Examination1439 3 days ago +1
So cool. Would love to find a docu on it so it makes full sense.! Would dream of touring a cable ship
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chubbytitties 3 days ago +1
Is that not how most cables are repaired?
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Memory_Less 3 days ago +1
And you have insight into how this was discussed in the back rooms?
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Good_Air_7192 3 days ago +1
An excellent cover story
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Zeikos 3 days ago +12
A cover story for what? Destroying infrastructure is easy, it doesn't require precision tools.
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Absentia 3 days ago +1
Performing a cutting-drag already is the first step first step in a cable repair. Then you perform two holding drags to bring up the two ends to the ship, splice in spare cable onboard, and lay the bight back out. For either type of drags there are specialized anchors to perform the cutting or holding. Repairs are routinely performed in deep sea locations.
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angelus14 3 days ago +14
We actually do need these, because how do you repair damage done to a cable? You cut it, haul it up and splice it. This type of tool already exists and is used all the time, this one is just for deeper cables. Yes, you could use it for nefarious purposes, just like you could stab someone with a scalpel, but that's obviously not why we have scalpels. Nor would a scalpel be the best tool if your goal is to stab someone.
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BoppityBop2 3 days ago +43
Albeit nobody's should, reality is internet and satellites are very useful tools to help military coordination. In total war, this is a very important target to take out especially to weaken enemy capabilities.
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Nuclear_Farts 3 days ago +27
Yep. One of the first things the British did in WWI was cut Germany's undersea telegraph cables.
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lo_mur 3 days ago +9
I presume that’s why the Zimmerman telegram had to go through London?
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DrFujiwara 3 days ago +1
Just need an electro-hydrostatic electro-hydrostatic-actuator actuator. A cutter of the cutter.
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Tomoomba 3 days ago -7
I was told by Listnook that China's going to bring world Peace and solve all the issues in the Middle East.......
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Icy-Antelope-6519 3 days ago +156
Normal subsea tools… cable cutters are used all the time…..
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thegoatmenace 3 days ago +30
Many civilian tools can be utilized for military purposes. Countries have always kept an eye out for dual-use technology.
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Zeikos 3 days ago +47
God forbid people keep knives in their kitches, it's very suspicious behavior.
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thegoatmenace 3 days ago -12
Well a set of kitchen knives is a bit different than a multi-million dollar piece of tech that can be easily repurposed to cut off internet traffic for entire countries…
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Zeikos 3 days ago +14
Plenty of countries could do that, destroying underwater cables isn't rocket sicence, you don't need this level of precision for doing that. I see little to no advanges, there's no need to be stealthy either - the ocean is *big*.
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CrossP 3 days ago +3
You can just bomb a cable for less money than this tool. It's just to reduce dangerous dives.
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DaySecure7642 4 days ago +178
Learning from China's best friend Russia on how to cut cables.
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Frothar 3 days ago +80
Russia just get a shadow fleet ship to drag anchor much simpler and easy to deny
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EstablishmentFull797 3 days ago +30
Good luck dragging an anchor in 3,500 m of water…
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jykke 3 days ago +12
Yeah haha, the chain is at max 400 meters.
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Z0bie 3 days ago +18
So just put 9 chains together.
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_Aj_ 3 days ago +9
 594 ft is even shorter! 
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norcalscan 3 days ago +2
The math checks out.
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14865315874 3 days ago +2
Well the thing is that the water around China(and the first island chain) is on the continental shelf, its quite shallow at most 200-300 meter. Of course when we leave the shelf(Eurasia continent) the depth just goes into the abyss.
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EstablishmentFull797 3 days ago +1
Good luck dragging anchor in 300m of water 
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WW2_MAN 3 days ago +1
Don't worry comrade ship is mostly empty internal volume is just to store worlds longest anchor chain.
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tweakwerker 3 days ago +13
Russia drags an anchor instead of using a cutting tool. Actually, the US has been doing deep sea cable cutting research for a while now.
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Tumble85 3 days ago +9
They've been straight-up tapping into the cables for a while now.
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Absentia 3 days ago +1
No one is tapping at the underwater cable itself (with fiber). The days of tapping submarine cable was when they were all copper coax. It has been absolutely proven in some of Snowden's releases that Five Eyes countries were tapping fiber cable at the terminal land stations, but there it was with pre-built taps for them (things like Room 641A). It was much easier to do with coax because of the cable design, and easier to patch up afterwards (or even use non-physical detection techniques of the field surrounding the cable). But with fiber, the actual fibers are surrounded by, among other things, the copper power conductor for the high-voltage DC to power the repeaters and branching units. One couldn't get around not having to shunt the cable to gain access to the fiber. And even then, to install a splitter you still have to cut the fiber before splicing it in, which would immediately alert the owners, whose revenue is in the 1000s of dollars a minute for submarine traffic. Even boosting becomes an issue because of how sensitive these systems' optical power needs are. What's more, any splice and especially any amplifier (to cover up the degraded signal) are easy to detect with optical time-domain reflectometry by the terminal stations, which immediately would be run in the event of the aforementioned power and signal alarms going off. A COTDR trace would show the extra spike of the tap's repeater. What we have absolutely seen is state-actor involved sabotage and deliberate cutting of cables. Still, it is so much more logistically easier for an intelligence service to attach a tap on land. Where you already have the fiber out of the cable and aren't working right next to kill-you-dead voltages and leaving very obvious physical evidence of alteration to cable. All the more so, since we know that landings like those next to GCHQ Bude such tapping routinely occurs already.
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goodguygreg808 3 days ago -1
Yeah one of the sea wolves has had this capability since the early 2000s
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VironicHero 3 days ago +25
I bet that’s the deepest depths of cables connecting Taiwan to other countries.
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CipherWeaver 3 days ago +10
Why not cut the cables where it's shallower 
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Automatic-Apricot795 3 days ago +6
Easier for your opponent to repair I see this being used for repair not nefarious purposes though. 
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catchy_phrase76 3 days ago +1
What possible reason would there be to cut a cable this deep? I see a "fishing" boat venturing to where they asked. Just like the fishing boats off Japan.
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angelus14 3 days ago +4
The reason is to repair cables. You don't get to choose where the damage is. If you have to repair a cable that's 3km deep then you have to cut it there, haul it up and splice it. Cutting cables for nefarious purposes is way easier and doesn't need a tool like this, you can cut it anywhere.
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catchy_phrase76 2 days ago +1
Don't imagine this is precise and I still fail to understand how this would help with cable repair. Wouldn't the cable need dragged up to a boat or a repair robot go down to repair?
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angelus14 2 days ago +1
Yes, that's what I mean by haul it up. You cut it, grab it (which this and similar actuators can also do, it's not just for cutting), and then pull the ends up onto the boat one at a time and splice in a new section.
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_Echoes_ 3 days ago +28
As somebody who has to fix cut cables, can you please f****** not
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thpkht524 3 days ago +8
That’s a good thing for you lol.
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Willinton06 3 days ago
Some people are more concerned with the wellbeing of humanity than job security
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thpkht524 3 days ago +1
Yeah no shit and if you can read you’d realise that’d be 100% irrelevant to what they commented.
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Willinton06 3 days ago
Well sadly I can't read so I'm trapped thinking you were talking about job security over the internets stability
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DashLeJoker 3 days ago +5
job security
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FinestAtemptAtBeing 3 days ago +22
If the Internet broke, I'd have so much more free time.   I don't know if I'd be angry or thankful.
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Haasts_Eagle 3 days ago +32
I've already downloaded more pictures of titties than all my ancestors combined ever laid eyes on so I'm fine too.
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Hapten 3 days ago +31
This is purely for research purposes, China could never do wrong and would never use this for military or spying applications. /s
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AElectronics 3 days ago +2
China doesn't invade countries through bombs, they invade through investing money. /s
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Seabreeze_ra 3 days ago +1
Isn't that truth? Name one country which bombed by China.
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shark-off 3 days ago -2
Vietnam, iran, Iraq, japan, japan, Afghanistan...
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Willinton06 3 days ago +3
When was japan bombed by china?
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shark-off 3 days ago -1
Hiroshima nagasaki? Ah no, not china, different country. My bad
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rattpackfan301 3 days ago +1
Ah yes, just like how they’re famously invading Taiwan with money and definitely not planing a large scale invasion /s
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CopainChevalier 3 days ago
Large scale? Is Taiwan bigger than I remember?
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Midiamp 3 days ago +1
So they made a big scissor?
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ChowAreUs 3 days ago +1
Can't they start deploying cables where we all have 100G connections at home ffs
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s1nd3vil 3 days ago +1
Yeah, when shit goes to shit it’s gonna go all the way to shit
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DramaticWesley 3 days ago +1
If this is used as a weapon, this would be astronomically harder to fix than the Russian sabotage. As opposed to 150m, at those depths you need extreme compression chambers and gear. Oceangate imploded at around 3500 meters, so these are extremely dangerous depths. Divers have to sort of live in a diving chamber for a few days as they very slowly are dropped to the ocean floor and gradually increase their air pressure. This lets them do the dives at depth, but takes many hours. So they just sleep and work at the bottom of the ocean for several days and then when brought back up to the surface, they might spend a whole other day just decompressing. (Learned all this from the Buford Dolphin accident.) Here’s the thing. The cables disrupt all sorts of communications, including banking information. The Chinese are a huge part of the global market, and there is little incentive to disrupt global banking information. It would be smarter to just do what Russia did and flood our dumb citizens with misinformation and make us destroy ourselves.
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Frexulfe 2 days ago +1
Okay, dudes, nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. That´s OK. But please do not cut the internet. What would I do? READ A BOOK? They are insane.
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Karli_Chirk 1 day ago +1
So its all going towards antiglobalization and undermining of world trading. Simply will end up with banning thug states ships from leaving their waters and hunting them down if they dare to sail outside.
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OddCupcake8 3 days ago +1
This is one of those "dual-use" technologies that sounds harmless until you think about it for more than 10 seconds.
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HoneyBadger552 3 days ago +1
ok. as a telecom worker i have more job security. always an upside. mexico gonna get more orders for fiber too
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Otherwise-Sun2486 3 days ago +1
no one is using those to cut undersea cables they have been doing that with c**** anchors
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nuttageyo 3 days ago +1
I always like thinking about that picture of the shark munching on the cable when people talk about undersea cables
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Traditional-Look8839 3 days ago
One of those things where just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
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Probolone 3 days ago
If china took a million cookies and dropped them in taiwan, and used this to cut taiwan internet from the rest of the world, nobody in taiwan would be able to share with the world the cookie gifting from china until the cookies were expired or eaten
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Santeezy602 3 days ago +2
Can't cut Starlink
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ItoSiJaay 3 days ago +3
Can be jammed though
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Old_Soc 3 days ago -1
They'll just hide it as a fishing or shipping vessel and start wacking and slashing lines everywhere.
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Capokid 3 days ago +1
Nah, they will just sell it to ruzzia
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Altruistic_Ad_0 3 days ago
Strong weapon
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thefuzzhead 3 days ago
I just saw the other day some Russian thing seemed to be mapping undersea cables
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Never_barked_a_lie 3 days ago
Now why would they need that
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Kamyplitfor 3 days ago +5
Replace old cables
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Niceguy955 3 days ago
I wonder how they'll pass these as an "accident".
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AlphanatorX 3 days ago
If you cut off access to my shit, it's personal
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Plenty_Whole6578 3 days ago
And we test atomic bombs if f****** china starts acting as a terrorist state. F*** around and find out 
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Prestigious_Long777 3 days ago
Declaration of war.
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Narf234 3 days ago -6
Just incase an undersea cable needs to be cut…for some reason. I love how China just flaunts rule breaking as it takes advantage of the rules based order for trade.
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Kamyplitfor 3 days ago
>Just incase an undersea cable needs to be cut…for some reason. Yeah like when old ones need to get replaced.
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haltmeinmaul 3 days ago
I really can't imagine they woul
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