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Loki-L Apr 22, 2026 +563

The real trick is not physically clearing the strait, but to convince the people who run, own and insure the ships that it is cleared. It is like a restaurant assuring you that the exterminator definitely got all the rats and cockroaches.

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Sticklefront Apr 22, 2026 +106

Depending on how it's defined, the strait is 20 miles wide and at least twice as long. It's very hard to prove there are exactly zero mines in such a huge region (not one or two, but zero).

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redfoobar Apr 22, 2026 +70

It is even worse if they are free floating mines: what you cleared/checked today can have a mine again tomorrow if the current takes it there. I assume they will use better options before resorting to free floating mines but who knows.

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Affectionate-Act6127 Apr 22, 2026 +52

It gets better, because the Persian Gulf has a counter clockwise pattern, in a not not nuclear scenarios, the Iranians can dump mines directly off their coast, and the current will eventually carry them through the gulf. They could run ashore at UAE or make the trip again and Iranian vessels would be fair game too.

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Brandhor Apr 23, 2026 +13

if they are free floating nobody can't go through including iran, china or india unless iran is tracking them with gps which I doubt since it would still be a mess to coordinates ships going through if the mines are in random places and can float to a friendly ship at any time

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sth128 Apr 22, 2026 +54

You cannot prove a negative. The strait will never truly be open again. Oil prices will not be coming down. The global recession is baked in. Anyone who says otherwise is a charlatan or a fool. Or both.

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TheCrippledKing Apr 23, 2026 +8

It depends if Iran is tracking their mines. If everyone is getting along again and they say that they deployed 100 mines and 100 mines are recovered, then most people will be happy with that. If they have no idea, then it's going to be a mess. Or, if 4 of those 100 mines sink and are never found.

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xterminatr Apr 23, 2026 +14

Iran likely didn't drop more than a few real mines and a bunch of fakes, if they dropped any real ones. I don't think any ships have hit them. It's a lot cheaper and more fun to drop fake GPS mines and watch and laugh at the US spending a huge amount of resources cleaning them up..

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Deruji Apr 23, 2026 +2

Padron pepper mines

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4estGimp Apr 22, 2026 +4

5km lane in 3km separation 5km lane out

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Sticklefront Apr 22, 2026 +7

Okay. Even if you don't care about mines in the separation zone, that's probably 40 km long by 10 km wide (5 km + 5 km). 400 square kilometers is a REALLY big area to be sure there is not a single mine hiding in.

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caseybvdc74 Apr 22, 2026 +3

It wouldn’t be too hard to prove if they know how many they laid. I have no idea how they do these kinds of things but I would account for every one before setting them.

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Sticklefront Apr 23, 2026 +12

Lol businesses can't even track their own inventories to that precision, you expect that in a chaotic war zone?

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New-Eye9930 Apr 22, 2026 +20

Exactly, it's more of a psychological blockade than a physical one, even if only 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 ships would get damaged from passing the strait, ships wouldn't try to pass through the strait.

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Shamino79 Apr 22, 2026 +6

They would go out at lower odds than they would consider coming back in.

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WingerRules Apr 23, 2026 +5

Less psychological and more like impossible for them to get insurance on their ships and loads.

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I_Roll_Chicago Apr 22, 2026 +12

The first ship that hits a mine, would immediately shut the whole thing down again. Insurance at that point will be outrageous

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ExistentialMeowMeow Apr 23, 2026 +2

this is why I was confused about the open/closed strait news. none of those headlines addressed that there are real and present dangers from mines that were unresolved. *nb I know nothing about the mine distributions, largely because the information I saw lately was that Iran wasn't able to or wouldn't advise of their placement

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UltimaTime Apr 23, 2026 +2

This would only work until the first ship blow up, it's not a very consistent strategy.

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SoylentRox Apr 22, 2026 +3

The difference is a restaurant patron can munch their way through a roach part and not even notice - there is a legally allowed level of insect parts in food. Probably won't notice a little rat poop in most dishes. You'll notice a naval mine. Trust me.

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Reddit_Hitchhiker Apr 23, 2026 +4

Part of a roach or mice poop is the same as a mine in a food establishment.

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Banana_Ranger Apr 23, 2026 +1

The bed bugs are definitely in the past. Trust us.

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pablogott Apr 23, 2026 +1

I assume Iran knows how many they dropped in.

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Loki-L Apr 23, 2026 +8

Probably not. Their response to the initial decapitation strikes was to let local and regional commanders make their own decisions independently. That was how a bunch of places got attacked with seemingly no rhyme and reason. The US and Israel probably blew up a bunch of Iranian units before they could report back to a central command what they did, once a central command had been re-establish. There is a good chance there are no mines at all, but nobody can really guarantee that.

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ak47workaccnt Apr 23, 2026 +2

What incentive do they have to tell the US if we got them all or not?

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j0mbie Apr 23, 2026 +2

Even if they told us the number, could we believe them? It would be in their best interest to keep a lot of them hidden and inactive, if they were able to be reactivated remotely at a moments notice.

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johnlocke357 Apr 22, 2026 +1366

And the iranians can choose to reset that timer any time they like

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Dry_Ass_P-word Apr 22, 2026 +333

Even if they don’t respond, Trump will reset it a few times per day.

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taisui Apr 22, 2026 +159

Every TACO Tuesday. Obama had a deal, Trump just had to break it and try to re-do HIS deal because he's just so envious of Obama.

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Falconflyer75 Apr 22, 2026 +89

Obamas idea of a good deal - as fair to both parties as reasonably possible Trumps idea of a good deal - snatch everything and screw over the other guy

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SkietEpee Apr 22, 2026 +48

Yeah... and he is learning a country is not a vendor he can f*** over. And you can't win by negotiation what you couldn't win in battle.

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BobsYourAuntie100 Apr 23, 2026 +16

Yep. So now hes moved onto plan B. Tell the world the narrative you want to make it seem you won, even if its complete lies. "Doesn't matter what anybody says, we won. They want a deal so badly. They want the strait opened immediately, not us. They agreed to hand over all the nuclear dust. And so on...."

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Awkward_Pangolin3254 Apr 23, 2026 +2

Nucular.*

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AnOnlineHandle Apr 23, 2026 +4

Trump is the kind of person who never learns anything. He'll make up whatever reality he wants in his head, and has demonstrated that repeatedly, and a huge chunk of people will happily go along with it, like idiots falling over in an evangelical church when a con man waves his arm and says he's pushing them over.

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MotherTreacle3 Apr 23, 2026 +27

Trump had a deal with Canada and Mexico that he made, that he then blew up and bitched that it was a terrible deal.

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taisui Apr 23, 2026 +8

Well he's not much of a deal maker to begin with. Also dementia

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morgazmo99 Apr 23, 2026 +5

Such a shame that when he's gone, the rest of the world will still know that America is Trump-flakey, and they'll never be as trusted as they were 10 years ago. And Americans traded that trust for a rapist to enrich themselves and avoid jail.

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taisui Apr 23, 2026 +4

Nah Trump is a symptom and 1/3 of Americans think he's great

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Shot-Job-8841 Apr 24, 2026 +1

You think he’ll mine the Strait? That’s not impossible, but seems really dumb.

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Alundra828 Apr 23, 2026 +21

For a hand of no cards, they seem to be pulling out a lot of aces lmao

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ComfortableNo5484 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Trump: “we’ve taken out all their leadership, killed their king, queen, and jack, they can no longer hold a royal flush” Iran: “_Pocket Aces_”

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Draskuul Apr 23, 2026 +3

Flu season will probably take care of that for them.

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Kind_Silver_1921 Apr 22, 2026 +3

Yeah even if the US leaves they could just do it again. The only solution is regime change at that point. The US can't leave now because if they do Iran will only let non US aligned ships through forever which would cost the US a lot more than the war costs. So the US needs to keep removing every leader of Iran until one doesn't want to close the strait it seems that's the only option It's too late to leave. Or the US could also nuke Tehran or something crazy and that's probably stop it as well

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QuentinMagician Apr 23, 2026 +10

This all sounds so merovingian. 1 out of 10 kings Died of natural causes. That is, murdered, usually by family.

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Dubante_Viro Apr 23, 2026 +6

What kind of propaganda are they feeding you guys? Do you really think every f****** country has to listen to whay your pedo in chief is rambling? The US is terrorising the world. Why would you support whatever the f*** your kiddy diddler king is doing? What you probably see as 'being tough' is actually weakness of the lowest kind. Your country has no sence of humanity, is extremely selfish, it's run by criminals and is, frankly, just plain stupid. No reasonable thinking person would ever support the destruction of the world the US is orchestrating. You will be left alone on world stage. The signs are everywhere and there is no way back. You might not realise it yet, but you have lost the power you once had on world stage. Good luck with your future "society".

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Fusilero Apr 23, 2026 +2

> Or the US could also nuke Tehran or something crazy and that's probably stop it as well I don't think that would stop the fragmented pieces of the IRGC from fighting in for some time. If anything, Tehran is where all the more moderate political forces are based (we think). It was a near run thing whether or not Japan would surrender in response to the nuclear bombs; had Hatanaka managed to destroy the "Jewel Voice" recording or any generals joined them, an invasion of the mainland would be on the cards with all the deaths that would have occured.

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brainfreeze3 Apr 22, 2026 +149

QQQ up another 1% on this news I'd say

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dervik Apr 22, 2026 +14

Why specifically QQQ ?

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brainfreeze3 Apr 22, 2026 +16

because it was up more than spy today, but spy works just the same

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BaldursGate2Best Apr 22, 2026 +5

I do not know much about the stock market, can you explain? Why would this ETF be up when there's bad news about the mines? Is it suspicious in any way?

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zBaer Apr 23, 2026 +20

The stock market is just astrology for people with money

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After-Snow5874 Apr 23, 2026 +7

I think they’re mocking the confusing occurrence of the stock market setting daily records despite bad and then worse news each day.

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brainfreeze3 Apr 22, 2026 +5

honestly that was a joke

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SoylentRox Apr 22, 2026 +1

I think because almost all the enormous market gains are in tech stocks, and thus many people feel they are overvalued. (Whether or not they are actually overvalued depends on your assessment of near future ai prospects) So it seems illogical for the market to declare the tech stocks are 1 percent more valuable than ever on bad news. Naturally the market is constantly doing insane and illogical things... because if it made sense you could trade against it.

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BaldursGate2Best Apr 22, 2026 +1

I am not very knowledgeable about the stock market and I am confused... Why would this ETF be up when there's bad news? Why is that the case?

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SoylentRox Apr 22, 2026 +2

In short either traders believe the good news for the top 100 nasdaq companies exceed the bad (a lot of these firms only use small amounts of oil as inputs and in the US market the US has more gas production than they have export ability) or market noise.

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Dunky_Arisen Apr 23, 2026 +16

With what minesweeping ships, exactly? Unless you plan on just ramming destroyers into mines and hoping their hulls hold up well enough, in which case, be my guest. ...I still can't believe they decommisioned the whole fleet of sweepers right before this debacle. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

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theknocker Apr 23, 2026 +3

Akin to Trump dismantling to pandemic response framework put in place by Obama, just before COVID hit

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HungryAddition1 Apr 22, 2026 +194

The mines they couldn't find two weeks ago and that we're there 2 months ago when the US decided to attack Iran for unknown reasons?

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pontiacfirebird92 Apr 22, 2026 +54

We know the reasons. And there's even more that we don't know. But none of them had anything to do with the safety of Americans.

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pawala7 Apr 23, 2026 +13

Those files on those philes must be crazy.

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Unlucky_Clover Apr 22, 2026 +5

That’s exactly what I remember, US saying there were no mines. Seriously, nothing anything said by this government can be trusted

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Superbunzil Apr 22, 2026 +13

13.7x two-weeks if you need moldy potato time frame

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BakesaleAtSyrinx Apr 22, 2026 +111

I wonder who's f****** fault that was. Americans, your government is stealing from your healthcare and social programs to pay for this war/military industrial complex, stealing from your investments and pensions with market manipulation to line their pockets, and destabilizing the world for foreign interests, when will you guys do something? Learn from the French and do something

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mschuster91 Apr 22, 2026 +8

>your government is stealing from your healthcare and social programs to pay for this war/military industrial complex That's only partially true. The US has the problem of its healthcare system being excessively wasteful ([5.3 trillion $](https://www.cms.gov/data-research/statistics-trends-and-reports/national-health-expenditure-data/historical) a year), with very poor returns on the spending even after accounting for many Americans being, plainly, so darn obese that it causes a lot of health problems in the first place. Defense budget is "only" [800 billion $](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#Budget_for_FY2024) a year, even if you say there's actually twice that money spent because parts are moved to NASA or "black budgets", it's still dwarfed by healthcare expenditure. If you want better healthcare, demand insurance reforms, yeet all the vampires and bloodsuckers and about half the bureaucracy nightmare. >Learn from the French and do something The French are pretty unique. Paris metropolitan region has 12.5 M inhabitants, about 20% of the country's population, and virtually all of the political power as France is a centralized nation where everything meaningful is decided in Paris. It is very, very easy to mobilize enough people for a good old riot in Paris, you need only a few tens of thousands to bring the city to a standstill. In contrast, the US? Washington DC metropolitan region is maybe 6.5 M inhabitants, about 2% of the country's population - and only one out of 51 centers of power, with the 50 state governments making up the rest. For a meaningful mass strike campaign, you need to mobilize *a lot* more people in the US simply because power is spread out so far and wide.

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TheFoxInSocks Apr 23, 2026 +5

They've tried nothing and they're all out of ideas.

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gospdrcr000 Apr 22, 2026 +14

Washington dc is about a 14 day walk from me, let me just walk right over and give them a piece of my mind

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According-Bet-141 Apr 22, 2026 -2

Don't you have a governor on your state? A Congress or Senate representative of the part of the State you live in? Also, telephone and internet can help you reach Washington DC and all your representatives there. One call/email a day protesting from a lot of you, maybe, can help. What sure that it is not going to do is make things worse.

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gospdrcr000 Apr 22, 2026 +5

Deathsantis don't give two fucks about anybody except literally himself, his family included

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Indifferent_Response Apr 23, 2026 +1

I hate that demon spawn with every fiber of my soul

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FlyingDiscsandJams Apr 22, 2026 +8

No, what we're really doing is defunding socialism to fund freedom! (eagle screeches) /s

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Hat_Maverick Apr 22, 2026 +6

Telling Americans to do something on listnook will not help no matter how many people say it. People will not risk their lives to try to stop the government until they are directly affected. Go to your representatives of your countries and tell them to pressure america in any way they can. Especially economically. Until most people feel direct suffering they will not rise up. I get that "it's your country you fix it" but that's not helpful. I hate it here too but there isn't enough will of common people to do anything yet.

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Ismokecr4k Apr 23, 2026 +3

It's time to start realizing that this is what Americans want. Listnook is not the majority of American opinion.

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Bored2001 Apr 22, 2026 +6

Pur country is huge and it's difficult to get to places to protest in a concentrated manner. I honestly believe this is one of the reasons why we have such a terrible rail system.

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fables_of_faubus Apr 22, 2026 +3

this is the exact reason every American gives: It's difficult.

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fratticus_maximus Apr 22, 2026 +4

I get your point but public transport really does induce protesting. Let''s take for example the French who are known for protesting well even at the slightest thing like retirement age being raised by 2 years. I'd imagine most of the protestors lived in Paris. How many people that lived in the countryside, where a car is required to get to Paris, participated? I imagine drastically fewer. Either way, I doubt there will be massive, violent protests until a large portion of the US are starving.

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Blagsc Apr 23, 2026 +1

Americans don't actually wanna fight back (honestly i think they actually think its all good but want the world to think they disagree) People have fought and died to stop dictators and americans think its too hard to get in the street, hell most of them have forgotten their own people who did die fighting back earlier in the year. Its all theater "oh we totally would and totally will if it gets worse", exactly as the nazies did lmao

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ReturnedAndReported Apr 23, 2026 +2

>I wonder who's f****** fault that was. It is the fault of the country that put them there. Iran was attacked and decided to take the world hostage as their core defensive strategy.

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FrankReynoldsCPA Apr 24, 2026 +1

There's not much I can do, man. All of my rants about what an insane a****** Trump is have fallen in deaf ears. Democracy is the least bad system but even it can be ruined when 51% of the population decides to abandon reality

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Zayaaz Apr 22, 2026 -9

most americans are ok with that as they voted for this.

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sixline00 Apr 22, 2026

They're paying Israel, their masters

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MarkFerk Apr 22, 2026 +34

Maybe because Trump got rid of our mine sweepers. This isn’t a joke or a lie as I wish it was.

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Bored2001 Apr 22, 2026 +31

As much as I hate Trump, those mine sweepers were slated for decommissioning long before him. We do still have mine sweepers, but they're a different more modern class and are not 100% dedicated to mine sweeping.

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Nolenag Apr 22, 2026 +16

Is it the class they've already started retiring because it's so shit?

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Bored2001 Apr 22, 2026 +3

Yes, but as mine sweepers they function outside of the sea mine danger zone by using unmanned and ariel mine detection systems, while the Avenger class mine sweepers that are being retired had to actively go into the mined zone to find mines. Apparently the Avenger class is made of wood!

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jonna-seattle Apr 22, 2026 +13

The wooden hull was a feature. It was intentional so that they could go within a mine zone and not set off magnetic mines. The navy is captured by defense contractors who don't want to keep systems that work (like the air force A-10) despite being old and build new, expensive systems that make corporations rich.

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pimparo0 Apr 23, 2026 +1

The a10 doesn't work....it can barely harm tanks more advanced than a t72 with its famous gun, other strike aircraft can carry more or the same ordinance and fire from further safer distances. The a10 relies on the pilots vision as well, which has lead to one of the highest blue on blue incidents of any aircraft. Its outdated and needs to be retired. Oh it's gun isn't very accurate so it has a high civilian casualty rate as well. Not great when you are running counter terrorism.

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Bored2001 Apr 22, 2026 +2

Yes I'm aware, but they were a dedicated system and the navy wanted more versatile ships. In any case, their decommissioning has pretty much nothing to do with Trump.

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jonna-seattle Apr 22, 2026 +3

Yeah, I agree that this isn't on Trump. We may disagree whether it was a good idea to decommission ships that fulfilled their task despite being aged, with ships that could do other tasks but not as well, on any of them. The nickname in the navy for "Littoral combat ships" is "Little Crappy Ships".

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Bored2001 Apr 22, 2026 +1

Quantity has a quality of its own.

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SYLOH Apr 23, 2026 +1

Are they still docked in Malaysia, like they were when the war started?

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Bored2001 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Google says at least 2 are operating in the area

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smitteh Apr 22, 2026 +2

Probably thought it was a distracting waste of time for government computers to have

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Crypt33x Apr 23, 2026 +1

He also pissed of the nations with the best mine sweeping capabilities.

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corp_code_slinger Apr 22, 2026 +10

Don't we have swarms of c**** aquatic drones we can use for this shit, and if not why not? It seems like a no-brainer.

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TemporarySun314 Apr 22, 2026 +16

I doubt that anything produced by the American MIC is c****...

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OddCupcake8 Apr 22, 2026 +5

People underestimate how slow and complex mine clearance actually is.

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Mike-SBA Apr 23, 2026 +9

Costing a billion each month ! Congrats MAGA for electing this schmuck to a second term. Cancellation of dozens federal programs helping low to middle income families while cutting taxes for the wealthy in the trillions of dollars. Now, we have a sinking economy with high prices, lower wages and no assistance ! America is deteriorating thanks to Trump and his Republican sycophants !

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VoddieMC Apr 22, 2026 +82

The mines that didn't exist in the Strait until the Americans decided to attack a sovereign nation for no valid reason at all? Those mines? Ok, then. F*** it. Maybe it should take a year...or two.

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Reno_valetore Apr 22, 2026 +24

I still think there aren't any mines there at all. Iran just has shitton of drones

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Sticklefront Apr 22, 2026 +19

I could believe there are very few mines, but there is a very big difference between 0 mines and a dozen or so. It would not be hard to place a handful somewhere in the strait and eventually, a cargo ship would find them.

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InformalYesterday760 Apr 22, 2026 +22

This was the point a naval insurance specialist was making on the news. 0 mines is easy. Literally any number other than 0, even just a single mine, can f*** with the usability of the strait and insurance rates. All of this is so stupid cause you can go back and read American military thinking on Iran in the 80s and a core concern of theirs was the vulnerability of the strait. But somehow Hegseth was too drunk on duty to discuss those concerns or do literally anything about it. Him and Trump just got too excited about the efficacy of laser guided bombs and wanted to play God. Now they've learned you cant win a war with nothing but laser guided bombs from the air, and here we are

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azuredown Apr 22, 2026 +6

I remember reading there are at least 12 confirmed mines.

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discoFalston Apr 23, 2026 +4

There are a lot of valid reasons to attack IRGC. Whether the Trump admin understands them or is competent enough to prosecute is a different story.

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iuuznxr Apr 22, 2026 -5

Iran is attacking dozens of sovereign nations with these actions, but that's fine I guess.

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unfinishedtoast3 Apr 22, 2026 +18

It isn't fine. It's a response to national sovereignty being violated I don't think Iran is a good country, but that doesn't mean we can kick the hornets nest and then peace out

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Acceptable_Noise651 Apr 22, 2026 +3

90% of Irans drone and missile strikes against the UAE have been civilian infrastructure, that’s not defending sovereignty that’s plain old terror.

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moosemanwich Apr 22, 2026 +8

Like the tomahawk on the elementary school? Oops that’s misinformation. The two tomahawks

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Poison_the_Phil Apr 22, 2026 +15

Hey you keep that talk up and you’re gonna get annexed pal

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moosemanwich Apr 22, 2026 +6

On the list already lol

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fury420 Apr 22, 2026 -10

Yeah the school on the IRGC navy base where they also struck more than a half dozen other buildings.

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inquisitive_guy_0_1 Apr 22, 2026 +13

The school was it's own building, right? And dont those tomahawk missiles have a margin of error of like 5m or less? The school was targeted. It may have been a mistake, *maybe*, but that doesnt change the fact that the school was targeted.

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iuuznxr Apr 22, 2026 +1

Being attacked doesn't give anyone the right to attack random non-belligerents. Iran has done that for the second time in the short history of the regime. A regime that spent the last 47 years kicking hornets nests btw.

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UrbanistTroglodyte Apr 22, 2026 +9

Yeah, it kept setting up its borders next to all those american military bases.

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discoFalston Apr 23, 2026 +1

It funded Oct 7 which has gone down just peachy for everyone involved. Conveniently just as the gulf states were starting the peace process with Israel. Funds harrasment of shipping in the Red Sea via the Houthis Funds a rogue militant organization in Lebanon that continuously drags the country into wars with Israel that it doesn’t want. Propped up a brutal dictatorship in Syria that gassed its own people just so it could maintain a land bridge to funnel resources to said lunatics in Lebanon. That ended in a decades long civil war. Attacked Saudi oil fields Not to mention it slaughtered thousands of its own people earlier this year. Gee I wonder why these countries are welcoming American military bases on their soil.

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UrbanistTroglodyte Apr 23, 2026 +2

Yeah man thats how things go, turns out if you coup a country it will radicalize them against you. They spent the last 40 years doing whatever it takes to reduce American influence in the region (this includes Israeli influence because let's be honest they don't work without American funding), viewing it as an existential threat. Considering the difference between their action and our 'allies' in the region (you know, those Saudis with the oil fields you mentioned that funded and helped organize 9/11) is negligible, none of that seems like a great reason to kickstart a global crisis and the worst planned Middle Eastern intervention in US history.

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discoFalston Apr 23, 2026

IRGC is a regional and potentially global threat in 2026. No amount of navel gazing about 1953 changes that.

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UrbanistTroglodyte Apr 23, 2026 +2

A potentially global threat? Of the everyone involved in this fiasco the United States has more bodies, invasions, coups and extremists funded than Israel, Iran and Lebanon combined. I feel no need to justify another one of their wars, they'll do that fine by themselves

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discoFalston Apr 23, 2026 +1

In the post WWII the U.S. has way more success stories than failures. Unfortunately the Middle East is a challenging region that cannot police itself. I trust the U.S. more than anyone else

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Bandro Apr 22, 2026 +5

Any other responses to claims you imagine people making or are you about done?

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Possible_Pop_8033 Apr 22, 2026 +4

You cant possible be that dense. Or maybe you can, idiots abound around these parts.

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PassStunning416 Apr 22, 2026 +12

There's zero proof of any mines.

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fosyep Apr 23, 2026 +12

Sure, until a ship blows up. You wanna to go first?

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TheRealSectimus Apr 23, 2026 +1

Even if there are no mines whatsoever. As soon as the strait is open again, it will be the global #1 spot for terroristic activity. What if the Taliban just drops one and then everything shuts down and fingers get pointed?

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ibyczek78 Apr 22, 2026 +6

And let me guess, billions more in support are needed as well?

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sonomamondo Apr 22, 2026 +3

anything from this administration is BS

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GunsouBono Apr 22, 2026 +3

And some defense contractor will make billions doing so...

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fudgeplank Apr 23, 2026 +3

Qatar gave trump a 747 and he screwed them over. Those Arab states are the ones he can’t leave behind now. He has crapped the bed well and truly.

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IntelArtiGen Apr 22, 2026 +8

The problem is that the mines could be anywhere in the persian gulf or the gulf of Oman. It would take forever to really clean the entire area. The real solution can only be political.

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roof_baby Apr 22, 2026 +4

It’s almost like this was a terrible idea.

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dakotanorth8 Apr 22, 2026 +2

Nah, “two weeks” He said it so it has to be true

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AthleteHistorical490 Apr 22, 2026 +2

What’s funny is that no deranged tweet, no matter how rosy a picture is being painted, can alter reality. And this crisis is going to bring a lot of people an inescapable dose of economic and geopolitical reality.

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MagicSPA Apr 22, 2026 +2

So will we still have high oil prices in the run-up to the mid-terms? Oh, dear. *A-hee-hee-hee-hee...*

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wirerogue Apr 22, 2026 +2

or six years. they have no idea.

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Zulmoka531 Apr 22, 2026 +2

Hmm, something else happens around 6 months in the US. Interesting timing.

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ConvictTheGod Apr 23, 2026 +2

This really is going to be a war that stays for some time huh

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sinkintins Apr 23, 2026 +2

I seem to recall the cheetoh man saying there were no reports of sea mines, what happened there lol https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-11/iran-hit-with-most-intense-day-of-strikes-hegseth-says/106439622

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Showmethepathplease Apr 23, 2026 +2

Isn’t this a perfect job for drones?

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boat_car_guy Apr 23, 2026 +1

Maybe, if you strap a powerful magnetometer onto it, and fly low to the surface. WW2 had mine hunting aircraft - just a quick search has some history to read up on - if you are curious. Boats probably have a pretty good detection suite too.

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YallaHammer Apr 23, 2026 +2

Because Trump didn’t plan a g-damn thing in advance just let Bibi lead him by his orange sprayed nose

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DifferenceNo3000 Apr 23, 2026 +2

Funny thing is, we don't really know if there are mines there, because lying about there being mines, is as good as threat as laying mines, especially when your ship and load costs tens of millions to replace. And till a ship hits a mine, or its officially checked for mines, we wont know.

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reallybirdysomedays Apr 23, 2026 +2

Ya know what could make it go faster? Deposing the fuckwad wanna-be king that caused this problem in the first place and installing a sane individual willing to negotiate with the people who know where they put the mines.

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Personal_Guard_9573 Apr 22, 2026 +5

six months to clear some mines is actually cooked for global shipping.

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New-Equal8039 Apr 22, 2026 +5

Gosh. Trump is really good at this war stuff, isn’t he? I am amazed how our enemies are in a better negotiating position after our attacks, and we are in a weaker position, economically and militarily. Only a guy who could make enemies of Canada and the Pope could pull something like this off! Incredible!

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Classic_Policy_5860 Apr 22, 2026 +3

Wild how the US can start conflicts instantly but cant control the consequences

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HarEr89 Apr 22, 2026 +3

Then start the f****** job.

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j33205 Apr 22, 2026 +1

Shoulda started 6 months ago duh

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SouthernRow2710 Apr 24, 2026 +1

Pentagon said they probably can't until we have a peace deal...

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Zayaaz Apr 22, 2026

problem is iran can reset the timer by dropping more

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bluddystump Apr 22, 2026 +2

It's regrettable that the aggressors are not feeling the effects of this conflict as much as other parts of the world who were just working to get by. Famine won't come to America but there is a good chance it will elsewhere.

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Comfortable_Gur8311 Apr 22, 2026 +1

Didn't trump say Iran already removed their mines

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BOPSurfcasting1 Apr 22, 2026 +1

6 months to clear the currently laid mines.

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Mechasteel Apr 22, 2026 +1

If it was just mines, insurance coverage would be enough to substitute for clearing the last few mines. But with Iran closing the strait, it's too dangerous for even US warships.

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PW0110 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Dude we are so hitting some sort of iceberg end of the year holy shit…*6 months*?????? It’s a wrap folks

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Brief_Hospital_1766 Apr 23, 2026 +1

I'm sorry, 6 months to clear 12 mines?

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WhyNotChoose Apr 23, 2026 +1

6 months? That'll take us right up to the November election. Martial law here we come!

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hawkseye17 Apr 23, 2026 +1

you'd think the largest navy in the world would've had some minesweepers, or several

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Bokth Apr 23, 2026 +2

Every boat is a minesweeper, at least once.

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Traditional-Look8839 Apr 23, 2026 +1

This is devastating for the world economy. Buckle up for the worst folks.

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plan_with_stan Apr 23, 2026 +1

Could also take 3 days… they have no clue how long it I’ll take as they have no clue where the mines are and how many there are….

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Deltr0nZer0 Apr 23, 2026 +1

I could do it in 3 weeks, defense contract plz.

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Bunch_of_Shit Apr 23, 2026 +1

“We don’t need the strait, open it up now.” -donald

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Awkward_Pangolin3254 Apr 23, 2026 +1

"... It won't, but it *could,* so we need another eleventy billion dollars."

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Marre869 Apr 23, 2026 +1

But it's been said that traffic is still ongoing in the Strait (at much lower rate but still) how is this possible, considering these free-floating mines?

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EquivalentAcadia9558 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Wait so the strait has been mined for this entire time and they've been telling ships full of oil and fuel to go through that?

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Direlion Apr 22, 2026 +1

Three day special military operation goes as planned. No surprise from the beaten and intellectually disabled lap dog of Putin and Netenyahu, Donald J Trump.

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Fuzzylumpkins1234 Apr 22, 2026 +1

And after they are done Iran will drop more in. Repeat as necessary.

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Specialist-Many-8432 Apr 22, 2026 +1

And they will just drop some more…

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Dry_Ass_P-word Apr 22, 2026 +1

At least we don’t have to act surprised that this is 100% the new forever war.

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Th3Batman86 Apr 23, 2026 +1

That’s what the last navy guy told Congress. He’s fired now. New guy says 48 hrs tops

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WKZ204 Apr 22, 2026

Yikes. This sounds like it could be problematic in nations that import petroleum products!

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macross1984 Apr 22, 2026

Could take 6 months? Could take much, much, longer as mines are hard to detect period.

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zomangel Apr 23, 2026

Digging mines underwater seems very counter-intuitive

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Clearing Strait of Hormuz of mines could take 6 months, Pentagon tells Congress

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