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News & Current Events Apr 14, 2026 at 11:55 PM

CNN: China to Supply Iran With Man-Portable Air Defense Systems

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CNN: China to Supply Iran With Man-Portable Air Defense Systems
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CNN: China to Supply Iran With Man-Portable Air Defense Systems
China is preparing to deliver new man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) to Iran within the next few weeks.CNN reported this information, citing three people familiar with the latest U.S. intelligence […]

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Aramis444 4 days ago +9273
China wants to see their weapons in action, and what changes to make against American weaponry.
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Krushhz 4 days ago +1696
Bingo!
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Careless-Vehicle-286 4 days ago +1113
Also refresh their stock. No need to decommission equipment and in the way the US sent lots of aging equipment to Ukraine.
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RednevaL 4 days ago +316
We could have sent more!
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DangerousLocal5864 4 days ago +277
Should've
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disisathrowaway 4 days ago +177
Still can
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Hautamaki 4 days ago +205
Sent most of it to Iran instead. Literally years worth of production and tens of billions in cost, dropped in about a month, to accomplish diddly and squat, when the same ordnance dropped in the Donbas and Crimea in 2022 would probably have wiped out the Russian army and ended Vova's imperial ambitions for a generation.
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Chaplain-Freeing 4 days ago +34
> to accomplish diddly and squat, Not so, brought in a more hard-line radical group to lead Iran & demonstrate why it must acquire nuclear deterrence.
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achilleasa 4 days ago +77
Yeah reminder that every PAC-3 launched in the Iran mess is a PAC-3 that could have saved Ukrainian lives.
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RJ815 4 days ago +40
Ah but you see, Trump is deep in the pockets of both Putin and Netanyahu. Can't be having peace now, only more insane land grabs like feudal lords.
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JoJokerer 4 days ago +12
Well they manged to kill hundreds of school children, so not nothing
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arabidopsis 4 days ago +6
I mean Ukraine has also been a testing hot bed for a lot of european countries too.. MBDA and Rhinemetal have tested a lot of stuff out in Ukraine.
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GunsouBono 4 days ago +1076
Exactly. Same thing the US did when arming Ukraine
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Umedon 4 days ago +292
Also when the US armed the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan with stingers.
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Techw0lf 4 days ago +47
[Historical context](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z04vqrSNaB4)
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MetriccStarDestroyer 4 days ago +257
Seems like a straight forward escalation. Germany would still be arguing if sending helmets and body armor increases world tension
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puaka 4 days ago +42
Germany is by far the biggest supporter of Ukraine…. That first helmet shipment was a direct order from Ukraine too.
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rapaxus 4 days ago +21
It also was in the context of "what do we have that we can send right now without any effort" and the answer were the helmets that basically were new and boxed in a warehouse.
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Revolutionarydaddy6 4 days ago +221
Face it, after years of insults and tariffs from trump they aren’t the ally you think they are. Only trumpers will keep sucking his c*** after he degrades and insults them. #bebest!
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escfantasy 4 days ago +200
Watching tons of Americans help each other jump ahead of other people in the long busy lines for passport control at several European airports this past week, following the implementation of EES, was like a metaphor for the America First mentality and its impact on other people. “Sorry I’m cutting ahead, I have a flight to Chicago!”, “oh we’re going to Chicago, cut up to us here!”, jumping the rope ahead of everyone else, even elderly people and families. Disgraceful.
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big_trike 4 days ago +42
They were probably Naperville residents
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escfantasy 4 days ago +52
If that’s like a privileged part of the city, I think you may be right. All the queue jumpers (and there were many) were all white Americans, with nice clothes and cases, and not the everyday style accents. I saw this behaviour happen in two airports recently here in Europe—Americans helping each other jump the lines ahead of others. It’s not a good look.
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StanknBeans 4 days ago +94
I saw this behaviour in CDG airport and the legends working there walked down the line, tapped them on the shoulder like they needed to talk to them somewhere and then as soon as they were back at the beginning of the line they told them to queue properly.
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meistermichi 4 days ago +21
As it should be
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YamburglarHelper 4 days ago +157
Proxy wars, hooray! It’s Cold War 2.0 but we’re the bad guys!
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Icarus-rises 4 days ago +185
There can be 2 bad guys simultaneously
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goingfullretard-orig 4 days ago +30
Everything and everyone are shit in this timeline...
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ThickReplacement7811 4 days ago +92
There were no good guys in Cold War I, there will be no good guys in Cold War II
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punkasstubabitch 4 days ago +33
But we got Rocky IV from Cold War I
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ThickReplacement7811 4 days ago +19
Maybe we’ll get Creed IV in a few years. Where Creed has to face off against a Chinese heavyweight who killed one of Creeds buddies in the ring. The dead man could even be the father of the next spinoff’s protagonist
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-MangoDown 4 days ago +10
New Rocky end credits gonna be like “Dedicated to the gallant people of Afghanistan err I mean Iran .”
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richstyle 4 days ago +17
Israel is literally USA R&D for warfare. They arm Israel for decades.
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i_tyrant 4 days ago +32
Hell, it's the same thing _China_ did when arming Russia for Ukraine. Nobody wants to miss out on weapon tests when it's not even their own soldiers on the line.
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DinkyStubby 4 days ago +6
Weapons testing and a chance to thin out your adversaries military without having your kids do the dying.
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esquirlo_espianacho 4 days ago +5
It’s the exact same thing. Only instead of javelins…
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Momik 4 days ago +47
And probably wants us to spend ourselves into oblivion again
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Ragman676 4 days ago +73
Ill never understand why the US wouldnt dump more tech into ukraine. Perfect testing ground for so much gear with 0 american soldiers at risk. I know this is a dark take but seems like a win/win, especially against an adversary like russia.
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Aramis444 4 days ago +44
If Ukraine had won earlier by being given everything it needed, they wouldn’t be able to put the country into an insane amount of debt, which Ukraine will have a hard time paying. Likely Ukraine will need to allow foreign interests in its industries in order to pay their debt. Trump was already trying to acquire mineral rights in Ukraine in exchange for help. Ukraine will be far from truly free, even if they survive this war. As well, they want to see their weapons weapon in a host of different situations. Defeating Russia too quickly wouldn’t allow for comprehensive testing.
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RobertPham149 4 days ago +12
Not how it works. The West has a bunch of outdated techs that will need to decommissioned anyway, and shipping it to Ukraine for field usage before just scrapping it was a cheaper option. The US would happily give it away for free. In fact it was a great win for US, because the western nation were sending cheaper, older generations F-16s to Ukraine, or selling it to ex-Soviet nations who is having a hard time buying Russian parts, so the west can buy more F-35s from the US. The US even resurrected the F-16 program with cheaper options and builds to sell to east Europe or South East Asia markets. The mineral right is just smoke and mirror: Trump made an optic out of Ukraine being a ploy of globalists to launder money and cheat Americans out of their money, so negotiating mineral rights is Trump posturing about his brand as a deal negotiator, clawing back the money wasted away by Biden. Seriously, this argument about mineral makes zero sense: the reserves are located mostly in the eastern front of Ukraine which means any infrastructure built for extraction risks getting bombed by partisans from either sides. The fact is that despite getting the rights, no American company is seriously thinking about investing into extracting it, nor is Trump sending more weapons to protect that right. The support of Ukraine was a bipartisan issue, with support from both sides, until Trump ran his mouth and used it as a narrative about Biden's weakness and corruption to get re-elect.
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Ecsta 4 days ago +28
No, it's just advantageous for Russia's enemies to bleed it out over as long as time period as possible. The prolonged conflict hurts Russia the longer it goes on and means it won't open a second front (since it's preoccupied in Ukraine).
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Ragman676 4 days ago +5
Thats an even darker take, and totally viable. F****** sucks though.
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ProbablyBanksy 4 days ago +125
And for the money. Don't forget the money.
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owennerd123 4 days ago +157
I really doubt it, the reason countries sell/send weapons to active warzones is almost exclusively for actual field testing. It cannot be that lucrative to sell some shoulder fired missile launchers to Iran... they're a fairly c**** weapon
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barbariccomplexity 4 days ago +57
There’s also the added cost of the enemy (US in this case) gathering data on the tech you’re sending and potentially capturing some in the field. You don’t risk losing a potential competitive edge over a relatively small payout, especially if you have the economy of China.
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MotherSnow6798 4 days ago +52
I doubt China is losing a competitive edge by these launchers seeing combat. They are relatively low-tech and expendable
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Nimble-Dick-Crabb 4 days ago +33
They’re sending 4th gen MANPADS which use IR guidance and have increased resistance to EW. These are not low tech. Sure they’re more expendable than say SA systems but don’t downplay the significance of using newer generation MANPADS
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zoobrix 4 days ago +24
I think many people don't realize even something that seems like it's been around forever, like man portable anti aircraft weapons, are in a never ending game of cat and mouse where new counter measures are being developed to make them less effective and then the next version of the weapon tries to beat those counter measures. The current version of a MANPAD might bear a superficial resemblance to a model from 30 years ago but its capabilities might have been vastly improved since then. Given all the rumours that the latest US decoy and EW systems were very effective in Venezuela against their older air defense systems, probably including MANPADS, I could very easily see China wanting to test their latest MANPADS against US defensive systems. It would definitely be very valuable for China to know how effective they were if conflict involving the US was to break out in the pacific theater. As you say the most up to date versions of these kinds of launchers are most definitely not "low tech."
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i010011010 4 days ago +73
And Trump is truly stupid enough to give them the opportunity. Like when people used to be "oh no Russian military might, Ukraine are gonna get steamrolled". Next thing you know they're downing Russian planes using phones for GPS and it turns out "huh, these guys kind of suck".
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chanaandeler_bong 4 days ago +80
China stated publicly that they found it extremely dangerous when dumbass in charge said he was going to wipe out a whole civilization.
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i010011010 4 days ago +83
China may be a totalitarian oppressive government, but they love their stability and Donald Trump represents chaos. He loves to weaponize economies for fun and personal profit. I wouldn't be surprised if the current opinion of China's government is they actually consider him personally more dangerous than NATO, because at least NATO is a stable body they can work+plan around.
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Gloomy-Recipe9213 4 days ago +61
China knows NATO doesn't want any part of Mr. Trump's Wild Ride. This is China's moment on the world stage to step up as the world leader, now that Russia and the US have started digging for rock bottom.
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i010011010 4 days ago +26
It's highly possible. I'm crippled in awe because I still remember the 90s and 00s when Republicans were all 'grr, China'. They used to be obsessed with chinese dominance in the new century, before they traded their minds for Trumpism.
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ScoobyDoNot 4 days ago +42
They also used to hate Russia. Now they can't get enough.
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Character_Bug_1862 4 days ago +7
Why did they sell out all of their industry to China in the 70s then? What did they think would happen? They’d stay poor and destitute?
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InsertEvilLaugh 4 days ago +13
Nah, they weren't thinking that far ahead, they were just thinking of the massive profits they were going to make using dirt c**** labor and selling at US consumer prices.
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Mighty__Monarch 4 days ago +24
China looking at this the same way liberal Americans wanted to look at Russia/Ukraine. The funny bit is the American MIC is equally happy to watch American equipment get destroyed because they get blank checks to replace it.
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askaquestion334 4 days ago +1381
Huh, why does this sound familiar? Im sure nobody in the middle east ever bled out a superpower with modern shoulder launched AA missiles before? 
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PrimaryInjurious 4 days ago +281
Do those work on F35s like they do on Hinds?
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AK_Panda 4 days ago +348
Depends how low the F35 is flying. Given the F35's capabilities, you could argue that an F35 flying a combat mission in hostile territory low enough to get popped by a manpad had it coming.
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vickzzzzz 4 days ago +25
Google tells me a single F35 is $100 million. Thats a lot of money to stake it by flying low.
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1800-5-PP-DOO-DOO 4 days ago +54
Absolutely. 
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UnknownHero2 4 days ago +85
Kind of. The stealth of stealth aircraft protects against radar guidance not heat. This isn't just a theoretical weakness anymore we saw a f35 get hit by a manpad a week or two ago. They can be defeated by just flying high, but that comes at the cost of making finding anything on the ground much harder.
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mr_herz 4 days ago +57
And that’s probably the point “They can be defeated by just flying high, but that comes at the cost of making finding anything on the ground much harder.” Deterrence. Their win is probably just getting the f35s to leave rather than downing them.
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achilleasa 4 days ago +11
Was the F-35 hit confirmed? In any case, yes I wouldn't be surprised if these things can down a stealth jet, if it flies close enough. And given that any bloke hiding in a shed can pop out and fire one in seconds, you can't exactly be sure that the field is clear.
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waigl 4 days ago +8
> a manpad Minor nitpick: The "S" in manpads stands for "system" and does not make the word plural.
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SawToothKernel 4 days ago +5
It's such a terrible name.
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justlurkshere 4 days ago +5
At least one F-15 got one in it's Hind.
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madhattr999 4 days ago +16
What about a stupidpower?
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Winter_Criticism_236 4 days ago +876
Trump might consider undercutting the chinese price and selling stingers to Iran.. Art of the deal...
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EffektieweEffie 4 days ago +126
That would indeed be art of the deal if he can convince them to try and use Javelins on airplanes..
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meistermichi 4 days ago +30
Isn't there that one video where a Ukrainian dude takes out a Helicopter with a javelin?
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EffektieweEffie 4 days ago +24
Yeah that was quite the feat. Not at all what these weapons were designed for nor likely to ever be replicated again, definitely not against a fighter jet.
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JohnnySmithe81 4 days ago +14
Javelins always had low and slow helicopters in its capabilities. It just tracks an IR target.
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Christopherfromtheuk 4 days ago +14
Gosh I can't imagine a Republican president selling arms to an enemy of the USA like Iran. I imagine if that happened they'd be arrested, or [I suppose the president could completely get away with it and the only guy convicted would be a Fox news host lauded by the right...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair)
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Jack_Spears 4 days ago +10
Javelins are anti tank, i think your probably thinking of Stingers
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planetarybum 4 days ago +1505
Trump is ignoring Russia's significant aid to Iran, especially intelligence and drones.
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distorted_kiwi 4 days ago +397
Ignoring means acknowledging it’s happening. I think he’s complicit, even more empowered to do so because he’ll just blame kegseth.
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Momik 4 days ago +54
Certainly seems so. There isn’t a single coherent strategic objective that this war achieves for the United States. Of course it achieves plenty for Russia.
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National-Two2417 4 days ago +13
And yet everyone of our political leaders is doing jack squat to stop him. Our military is putting our troops at risk for Trumps urge to please Putin.
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Candid_Cat_5921 4 days ago +4417
I think World War III started with Ukraine, and it’s just going to keep building and building
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JojenCopyPaste 4 days ago +1716
I mean, if this does spiral to WW3, that will definitely be part of the first section in the lessons about the war
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Harbinger2001 4 days ago +1014
It’s kind or like how WW2 started with Japan’s invasion of China in 1936.
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GoodOlSkipper 4 days ago +501
More like japans invasion of manchuko in 1931 or 1932
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2dTom 4 days ago +392
Nah, that's going to be the Russian invasion of the Donbas in 2014, the little green men, etc. 2022 is a lot more like 1937.
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American_PissAnt 4 days ago +78
And Italy invading Ethiopia is Israel invading Gaza. Now what is the modern comparison for the Spanish civil war?
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Roland_was_a_warrior 4 days ago +103
It’s for sure Ukraine. It’s a proxy war (halfway, at least) between two major powers, the testing ground for new tech, and a boatload of foreign volunteers. It’s also more of a political issue within those large powers rather than a direct threat (again halfway).
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Practical_Chemtrail 4 days ago +35
A lot of volunteers on both sides and testing new tech as well as the establishment of AirPower (Drone Warfare). Yeah there are a lot of parallels. Less ideology though
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Timely_Influence8392 4 days ago +13
> Less ideology though Or is it that you are [Zizek sniff] blind to the ideology which surrounds you.
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hybridck 4 days ago +48
Syria imo. You had multiple foreign militaries operating in the country all supporting the various different factions
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Daveinatx 4 days ago +8
I just came here to say the proxy wars of Syria and Africa
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Theoriginallazybum 4 days ago +28
I thought it was more the Spanish Civil War in the early 1936. That was the testing ground for propaganda and all of the new technology, including airplanes. Guernica isn't just a famous Picaso painting, it is about the horrific bombings that became common in World War 2 with London, Dresden and others.
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Juniperguy22 4 days ago +47
1937*
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That75252Expensive 4 days ago +11
Yup, July 7th
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pokeraf 4 days ago +38
Japan be like: “Hey, I dunno what you saying but don’t get distracted with old story and go back to talking about China giving Iran military support.”
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Heinrich-der-Vogler 4 days ago +4
More like Italy's invasion of Ethiopia in 1935. That was the moment that demonstrated that the international order had no answer to expansionist wars of aggression.
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maporita 4 days ago +147
There won't be any more lessons of any kind after WW3.
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dobik 4 days ago +45
I hope Europe this time will not be involved, at least in the EU territory. I think is time this time Poland won't be 3rd time Frontline. We are still rebuilding our shit after WW2
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eggyal 4 days ago +56
Sadly I think that Russia would see a war between the U.S. and China as the perfect time to push west into Europe.
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American_PissAnt 4 days ago +60
I want to say that Russia isn’t stupid enough to invade EU Europe, but history says that yes Russia is that stupid.
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Practical_Chemtrail 4 days ago +39
Histrionically being a neighbor to the Russian state has not been an enjoyable experience.
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Deprisonne 4 days ago +39
Russia couldn't push into Ukraine, what makes you think they even get past the polish border?
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King0Horse 4 days ago +46
Poland been doing everything but putting billboards up facing the Russian side of their border saying "I wish a MF would" in Russian.
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disisathrowaway 4 days ago +14
Finland similarly has been planning for a Russian invasion since the last one.
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Practical_Chemtrail 4 days ago +8
Some sunflower fields and hordes of Polish tanks might be a minor issue for this expansion.
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dobik 4 days ago +11
EU has 3x more people and modern equipment. And they are basically not moving the Frontline in Ukraine, where they are 5x smaller population wise. I think EU can expect some dirty moves and provocation, hacking, migrant and other hibrid warfare. But other than that we are good. My guess they would do Kazakhstan after they are bored with Ukraine.
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disisathrowaway 4 days ago +5
Bogged down in Ukraine as-is, and then triggering Article 5 for real? That would be a new level of stupidity.
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Krushhz 4 days ago +16
Wouldn’t the knowledge of “mutually assured destruction” make all superpowers more reluctant to ever use thermonuclear weapons in war?
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LothorBrune 4 days ago +71
Superpowers aren't exactly ruled by rational actors, currently.
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GoaGonGon 4 days ago +24
Trump: absolutely bonkers Putin: paranoid and living of past greatness Xi: authoritarian but (mostly) rational and cunning.
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Tibbaryllis2 4 days ago +12
What stops this, imo, is not mutual assured destruction of each other, but instead the assured destruction of desirable assets. In Ukraine, for example, I’m sure Russia is aware that the west would respond in kind, but more importantly Russia wants Ukraine for its ports, its mineral resources, its agricultural lands, and its raw bodies for the meat grinder. Making Ukraine uninhabitable for generations does the oligarchs zero good in their lifetimes.
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soulstormfire 4 days ago +38
Does the US behaviour look "reluctant" to you?
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Krushhz 4 days ago +10
No reluctance to use non-Nuclear weapons, but so far, none have been used.
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eggyal 4 days ago +22
The man with access to the nuclear football just threatened to wipe out a civilisation.
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Only_Jackfruit_6905 4 days ago +29
How would a ww3 look like? All the superpowers fighting smaller conflicts indirectly? Since a nuclear powers won’t fight each other for obvious reasons! If you define world war as a war that has a huge front in Europe then let’s make this clear, Putin doesn’t have the ability to attack europe
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Shopworn_Soul 4 days ago +49
Nuclear powers will definitely fight each other if a truly global war breaks out but I seriously doubt anyone is going to jump in with nuclear weapons from the outset. I could be wrong, of course. With the upside being that if it does open with nukes, I won't be around long enough to feel like a dumbass for doubting it.
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Wild_Haggis_Hunter 4 days ago +14
My guess is the first superpower to start having real trouble on the field would provoke [a Kessler syndrome ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome)before resorting to thermonuclear weapons. Barring everyone on Earth from the ability to use satellites for decades and decades would provoke a complete reset of the balance of power for all nations (communication, military intelligence, guiding, climate forecasts). And it's not that costly to trigger. It's a pretty frightening hypothesis as it would set back Humanity to pre-50's technology in so many aspects and make handling climate change even harder.
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JojenCopyPaste 4 days ago +23
Just because the first 2 involved extensive fighting in Europe doesn't mean the 3rd one has to. I'm sure they'll be involved in some way though
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-ToniCipriani- 4 days ago +16
Pretty sure a world conflict will involve Eastern Europe in a big way, there’s no way there won’t be a front between Europe and Russia at some point other than what’s already happening in Ukraine.
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Onemilliondown 4 days ago +4
Everyone with a weaker neighbor will start there. It will continue until 3 or 4 powers have conquered all the independent countries and an uneasy stalemate is in force between the superpowers. Remember we have always been at war with ~~Eurasia~~ Oceania.
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disisathrowaway 4 days ago +6
If there's something we've learned in the last 70 years, is that invading and annexing neighboring countries isn't just a 'Well, we beat them and now they're ours'.
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pimphand5000 4 days ago +14
Some argue it was 2012 Crimea as the true start, but I much prefer the later move into Ukrane as the marker. Still, the world is at war. Maybe not all fighting the same battle as of yet, but overall the major players are blatantly or covertly at war.
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cannot_walk_barefoot 4 days ago +133
I feel like it would have been expedited tremendously if Russia's '3 day operation' was actually closer to 3 days. If Ukraine was unprepared or had weak leadership that either ran away or was killed early, then Putin would have been emboldened to take on more with momentum. Instead, Ukraine fought, and basically showed Russia to be callous, evil but in the end, inept. We should all thank Ukraine/Zelensky for putting up the fight they have to slow down the gears of this WW
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Queasy_Local_7199 4 days ago +22
More like: Cold War 2
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NoeloDa 4 days ago +133
Maybe World War III is the friend we found along the way
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RiPPeR69420 4 days ago +47
We are living at a point in time where historians in the future will debate the exact date a series of semi independent regional wars coalesced into one larger conflict. Apparently because Kamala Harris has a weird laugh, so America went with Trump 2: Electric Boogaloo. I truly hope you dumb fucks can get your shit together for the midterms.
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smitteh 4 days ago +99
Americans could drag the trump admin out by their toes and put a stop to all this but they got bills to pay lest they're homeless
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MeatImmediate6549 4 days ago +91
This is why Americans are only protesting on weekends. This is also why the ownership class will resist with every fiber of their being giving Americans the kind of job protections the French have, because they might use those benefits to try get a better standard of living by protesting like the French. And finally it's why the ownership class is so interested in AI. To the owners, their workers are really just fleshy complainy robots anyway so why not replace them with robots that don't get sick or tired?
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randompersonx 4 days ago +12
I certainly agree that it’s plausible, but I’d also say that there is plenty of potential that WW3 can be avoided. *If* Iran falls, they will no longer be able to supply Russia with drones, which will greatly reduce their ability to continue the war against Ukraine. If Iran falls, and both Iran and Venezuela are no longer providing oil to China, it will make it very difficult for China to take Taiwan. If China can’t take Taiwan in the next few years, they will not be able to seriously threaten the USA to challenge the world superpower title. If the Ukraine war ends and Ukraine is allowed to rebuild, they will likely become a major militarily industrial powerhouse, helping the EU, Gulf states, and likely the USA to all build up advanced drone defenses against china and russia well into the future. I’m not saying that this is a forgone conclusion, but it certainly plausible.
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Silver_Middle_7240 4 days ago +44
Yep, we're up to three theaters now.
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Uranophane 4 days ago +42
Which 3 theatres? Middle East, Ukraine and?
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JasonVorhehees 4 days ago +112
AMC and Nicole Kidman
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TyrusX 4 days ago +19
There are about 60 countries in war currently. Crazy eh
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pokeraf 4 days ago +26
Right? But no one cares about Africa until they affect rich countries’ interests.
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Fearless_Ad_5470 4 days ago +85
I'm more curious why the US media doesn't report on actual Russian aid to Iran. After all, it's obvious to anyone which is more threatening, the Stinger missiles or the attack helicopters. This seems like yet another farcical example of "you see, he's done something bad too." 
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Prestigious_Face7727 4 days ago +13
They just copy-paste press releases, like this one from the USA government quoting imaginary "intelligence sources"
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yanocupominomb 4 days ago +287
F*** man, I don't like this one bit. Feels like we are going into a death spiral where every action just sucks us more into it.
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m3g4m4nnn 4 days ago +227
This was all but assured when Trump got his second mandate.  Not necessarily the flavour of death spiral I would have predicted, but he was crystal clear that he intended to destroy the country for his own gain.
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surg3on 4 days ago +23
What gets me is that its so damn inefficient. For every $1 trump 'makes' America/globe loses >$100 (I havent done the math so I could be underestimating by orders of magnitude)
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mcyeom 4 days ago +11
Disaster capitalists at their finest. Farage and Johnson probably only made a few million off the multi billion catastrophe that was brexit.
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ericporing 4 days ago +22
Not surprising when you threaten to blockade asia's energy supply.
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roadsidefoto 4 days ago +390
Every nation on this planet that has any beef with the US knows that this is exactly the right time to start testing our military capabilities, because we've made it embarrassingly obvious that our government and now our military are under control of the stupidest people we've ever produced.
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kimmywho 4 days ago +65
The current admin is a major security threat.
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PM_Me-Your_Freckles 4 days ago +26
Don't even need to bother with spys any more. Just pay, and the secrets are yours. Hell, just blow smoke up his arse and you can get special treatment so you can put listening devices in exclusive spaces.
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Desperate-Habit-8123 4 days ago +355
I thought the war was over 🤣
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Unfrozen__Caveman 4 days ago +180
There will be significant progress made right before market close on Friday
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whitethunder9 4 days ago +11
…in two weeks
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panzerboye 4 days ago +34
Yeah I mean it is a no brainer on their part; they can see how their weapons hold up against US systems.
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_Figaro 4 days ago +501
This is exactly how the US was supporting Ukraine (during the Biden administration) in their struggle against Russia. How times have changed.
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dmb2574 4 days ago +76
Been going on much longer than that. Lend lease wwii, korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan to name a few.
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IntelArtiGen 4 days ago +20
Yeah, it rather seems times don't change that much.
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dmb2574 4 days ago +5
Nope, like history's repeat button is stuck.
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Acceptable_Noise651 4 days ago +153
Except the US is upfront about supporting Ukraine with material aid, China is trying to give Iran weapons through third party countries to give themselves political cover.
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Brief-Branch4779 4 days ago +101
Huh thats weird it almost sounds exactly like how the CIA smuggled weapons into Afghanistan for the Mujahideen as part of Operation Cyclone during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
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SenoraRaton 4 days ago +19
>"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."
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mwax321 4 days ago +134
It's not like the US hasn't done exactly that before.
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RepresentativeOk2433 4 days ago +87
Yeah but the Chinese dont even have the decency to launder it through narco terrorists.
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thats_handy 4 days ago +18
You're right. It's more similar to secret Israeli and American arms sales to Iran in the 1980s.
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TinyTowel 4 days ago +120
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Of course they are giving weapons to Iran. They'd be stupid not to. 
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Moveyourbloominass 4 days ago +68
China is protecting its massive investment, the New Silk Road. They have invested billions and so have other countries, for this trade route. Trump is a f****** idiot and so is Pete for not understanding the implications of attacking Iran and impeding the New Silk Road. China will continue to support Iran until the end.
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alphadips 4 days ago +89
So this is basically our version of Ukraine/Russia, China is gonna proxy the hell out of this thing. F***, Trump is an absolute idiot
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pokerstar420 4 days ago +80
This makes Trump look so weak after he just said that there would be big problems if China does help Iran.
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JohnHazardWandering 4 days ago +66
I'm begining to think that the word of this Trump guy doesn't stand for much. 
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csf3lih 4 days ago +24
lmao nothing makes him look weak. he is weak. a draft dogger convicted rapist pedophile is a weak person, killing  130 Iranian children in school will not make him strong, 500% tariff to China will not make him strong. 
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-Yazilliclick- 4 days ago +10
I'm sure picking a fight with China will go great after wasting all their million dollar missiles intercepting thousand dollar drones in Iran.
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AbandonChip 4 days ago +18
Nothing like some good ole fashioned proxy wars for global spheres of influence for rich old men....
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ekobres 4 days ago +197
But we stopped selling them chips and tariffed them super hard. How?
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China_bot42069 4 days ago +136
Same reason Russia keeps getting new John Deere tractors. They just buy them from a country that doesn’t have issues with them and the US 
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American_PissAnt 4 days ago +86
Kazakhstan is number one importer of John Deere Tractors, Kazakhstan also number one exporter of John Deere tractors
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hvanderw 4 days ago +36
Number 2 tractor prostitute in all of Kazakhstan.
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IPissExcellentThrows 4 days ago +16
Nah they're all about potassium exports
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Goosepond01 4 days ago +54
MANPADS are not some new technology, the soviets had them and China is very much able to make their own.
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Nerezza_Floof_Seeker 4 days ago +16
To be fair, even though the concept of MANPADs are not new, there can absolutely be alot of technological advancements applied to them (better IR seeker technology, better software to differentiate between countermeasures, etc)
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Goosepond01 4 days ago +11
You are right, it's just that if someone was shocked that China would have any kind of manpad that they made it's obvious they don't know what they are talking about.
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HistoryBugs 4 days ago +23
The chips needed for a manpads are no more advanced than the ones in your washing machine
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kombiwombi 4 days ago +22
China make semiconductors down to a 10nm process. This is roughly US CPUs from 2017. Manpads are a 1950s technology. The US have tried hard to keep better technology away from China. Particularly  'AI' technology. For competition reasons but also because the 'AI' style of simultaneous pattern matching against a huge database of probabilities is exactly the processing required for sophisticated radar. This attempt has worked about as well as other super hard tariffs. Trump will just have to double them again. And maybe once more for luck. Clearly China will then throw its hands up and go back to making steel from backyard kilns. Whilst making AI-looking propoganda posters, but by hand. /s, just like the comment.
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AOChalky 4 days ago +12
>China make semiconductors down to a 10nm process. This is roughly US CPUs from 2017. SMIC's 7 nm process is comparable to TSMC and Samsung's 7 nm and Intel 7 (which Intel used to call "10 nm"). The 10 nm you are talking about is TSMC and Samsung's branding. SMIC basically skipped the 10 nm stage and directly went from 14 to 7.
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SyntheticSweetener 4 days ago +41
This is an irresistible temptation for China to try out its (largely untested) tech against the US.
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RedTulkas 4 days ago +3
also its just good politics to help countries you wanna trade with defend themselves from aggression
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CheezyBeanBurrito 4 days ago +9
I don’t think anyone picked up that you were being facetious
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ekobres 4 days ago +7
It’s a real tightrope trying to be clever on Listnook.
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Routine-Echidna-1953 4 days ago +130
China is doing the same what Americans did in 1980s to Soviets in Afghanistan :D
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Zdrack 4 days ago +78
and china and russia did to vietnam in the 60s and 70s. been a cycle of f****** with each other
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battles 4 days ago +22
and europe and usa are doing in ukraine
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Crocs_n_Glocks 4 days ago +24
And what France did in the American Colonies
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geardownbigrig 4 days ago +5
MANPADS have a ceiling of 3-3.5km. I would think this is anti-drone testing for China more than anything
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raytoei 4 days ago +10
China -> Pakistan -> Iran Kinda weird because Pakistan has a security pact with KSA and Pakistan just sent planes and troops to protect KSA against Iran
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NeedleworkerPure7162 4 days ago +4
Pakistan sent their "mercenaries" to protect the House of Saud from their own people and to assist the Bahrain Monarchy from possibly being overthrown this year. For a price of course. Nothing to do with Iran.
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not_old_redditor 4 days ago +10
Interesting choice to link to some rando website instead of the actual CNN article...
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gvillelake96 4 days ago +4
Reminds me of a certain soviet invasion
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olivthefrench 4 days ago +4
this is setting the stage for WWIII. multiple proxy conflicts with blockading of a major trade route could explode into a major war
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GreatGojira 4 days ago +71
Trump doing everything to empower our adversaries
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Needle_Bearings 4 days ago +12
You bet your ass China got a hold of a bunch of manpads, reverse engineered that shit and improved them. Say what you will.  China's engineering and manufacturing prowess are top tier at this point.  They have a burgeoning middle-class but can flip factories into war time production the way Foxconn can wake up a whole factory at 1AM, give everyone a biscuit and a cup of tea and tell them to get to fixing it. They used to make junk. Used to be you couldn't trust a Chinese 3D printer or a Chinese Turbo.  Who leads the world in drone production by the way?
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NekrotismFalafel 4 days ago +51
I don't think China would have done this if the US hadn't bungled this so badly. It seems like China is recognizing that the Trump regime is accelerating the downfall of both US hard and soft power. Basically the Trump admin pushed the timeline of American decline forward and China is responding accordingly.
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pewsquare 4 days ago +31
I feel like just how ukraine is being used as a proxy to drag down russia, Iran will now be used to drag down the US.
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Suecotero 4 days ago +37
I mean, nobody forced the US to attack Iran. It's an unforced mistake, same as Russia's Ukraine invasion.
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JohnHazardWandering 4 days ago +8
Nobody cares about dragging down Russia. If Russia left Ukraine it would all be over and done.
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onekool 4 days ago +4
I wouldn't go that far.... The US has clearly been annoyed at Russia at least as far back as when they were meddling in Syria during Obama, or attacking Georgia during Bush.
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hackingdreams 4 days ago +34
China: Thank you Iran for validating our air defense systems against active US military hardware. Iran: Thank Russia, they put us up to this. Russia: cool, we did you a favor China, now, weapons for us please. But, no, this isn't World War III.
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RedTulkas 4 days ago +8
China is also selling to ukraine they sell to everyone, and likely gather as much data as possible from as many actors as possible hell if the US asked they d sell them some stuff too likely
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nien9gag 4 days ago +10
Russia put them up to get attacked by usa and israel?
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