I don’t quite understand: why does the US continue to bother Cuba?
Genuine question
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pumpymcpumpface14 hr ago
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Because of cuban voters in Florida.
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ZonaDesertRat13 hr ago
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Yup. It's all politics.
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Brewermcbrewface12 hr ago
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Don’t forget about the sugar market
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putsch808 hr ago
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Yup. People whose grandparents fled Cuba 65 years ago (and who will never return to Cuba no matter the circumstances there) are carrying generational anger about their family losing their wealth when the Communist regime took over.
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icantbelieveit163712 hr ago
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Was gonna say the owners want to starve the freed slaves
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phiwong13 hr ago
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(This is a one sided presentation. The actual history goes back further and is far more complex. Basically lots of things that the US does outside the US mirrors their internal political tug of war)
In 1898, the US went to war with Spain in support of the Cuban independence movement. This was, in part, to support various US business interests in Cuba (sugar etc). After winning the war, the US granted Cuba independence in 1902 although it remained a dominant force and quite often interfered in Cuban affairs. There were ongoing debates about annexing Cuba into the US.
In 1960, Fidel Castro took over Cuba in an armed revolution (against the very autocratic rule of the time that was supported by the US). While Fidel Castro was likely primarily a nationalist, he used Communism as a framework to implement his vision of Cuba. The US was very staunchly anti-communist after WW2.
After taking over Cuba, Castro seized US (and other) business assets and property, nationalizing most of them without compensation. Many Cubans fled to the US (forming a community in Florida that still exists). These Cubans have been (as one would have guessed) staunchly anti-Castro and have become a political force in the US. One could say, never take property from US citizens - they have long memories.
The hostility compounded with Castro inviting the USSR to place (nuclear) missiles in Cuba aimed at the US leading to the Cuban missile crisis, Bay of Pigs invasion etc under President Kennedy (1962). Ultimately the USSR pulled back from this plan, which nearly ended up starting a nuclear war, but this completely solidified and froze US government attitude towards Cuba for the next 50 years. Cuba was under strict embargo by the US.
President Obama was the first to somewhat reopen diplomatic ties with Cuba. This was not without opposition. Marco Rubio (son of exiled Cubans and a Cuban-American) became a central opposing figure in the US Senate after 2012. Marco Rubio was appointed as the Secretary of State of the US in 2025 under Trump. He is the chief architect of US foreign relations and has remained staunchly anti-Cuban.
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Primi_Noscere_17768 hr ago
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Rubio's parents migrated to the U.S. in 1956, three years before Castro's revolution.
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RVAteach8 hr ago
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Just adding cause this isn’t super common knowledge, but Cuba also was deeply involved in foreign policy in Angola and South Africa. They fully fought the Apartheid government in Namibia and helped Angola fight a decades long civil war against the preferred U.S. dictator Jonas Savimbi, helping usher in the end of Apartheid in South Africa. Castro personally commanded the decisive battle that would end South Africa’s ambitions in Namibia and Angola.
The U.S. can definitely hold a grudge.
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marcthe1211 hr ago
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Well there is a full set of reasons. Cold war and missle crisis was the original reason although q bit obselete. To understand why you got understand a couple of things since cuban revolution. Cuba under Castro unlike most authorian countries allowed and sometimes encourage defactions and exiles. And most of ended up in south Florida. Demographics today is such that south Florida is pretty much north Cuba. And behaves as such. As these guys are against the cuban government and take a herdline stance against them. After all they all defactors/exilees. And they are now big enough to effect us politics. HRC lost Florida only because obama tried to normalise relations with Cuba. And looking at the EC, 1 of the big reasons trump won in 2016.
And Rubio is a Cuban itself so the current admin has the most hardline view in terms of foreign policy.
Minor fun fact, in 2026 there are almost the same number cuban in Miami as there in Havana. That should give the client on the situation.
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sup3rjub311 hr ago
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America will always try to crush a country trying to do socialism/communism (check their history of coups in South America and East Asia) because it threatens their imperialist capitalist goal by showing people that things can be better. Money over everything.
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bigstinkycath11 hr ago
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Virtually all communist countries are doodooholes. Social democratic countries like Germany or Norway do better than the US, yet the US doesn’t interfere in them. I think they’re just mad Castro seized all of their properties in Cuba and the whole red scare thing is still very much alive in the US ig.
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sup3rjub311 hr ago
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i don't think a truly communist country exists, but yeah america makes sure they suffer for trying.
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koplowpieuwu8 hr ago
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It's 2026 and people are really still making the 'real communism has never been tried'meme happen... Power corrupts, that's the fundamental flaw that made all honest attempts fail, cia involvement in select few cases or not.
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bigstinkycath11 hr ago
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Marxist-Leninist is what I meant. But yeah neither government cares about the actual people. Maybe the regime did care about providing people with opportunities at the beginning, heck, that’s how my parents became engineers. But they no longer do.
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Mythran1212 hr ago
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Bullies pick on the weak
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Brewermcbrewface12 hr ago
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Not sure if it’s still the case but corn is still super subsidized by the government. A lot of corn is used for fructose corn syrup and which is in pretty much everything. It’s super c**** and people love using it as it lowers the cost of things. Who is the biggest natural producer for sugar? Bingo Cuba, opening up trade would f*** over all the corn farmers since they would have to compete with a superior product. Like I said not sure if that’s still the case but corn lobby has always been for the cuba embargo
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Chrono_Convoy9 hr ago
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The world’s largest natural producer of sugar is Brazil.
Then India, China, Thailand and Pakistan
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icemelter4K11 hr ago
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When US takes over they'll probably order most of the old buildings demolished to replace them with "safer modern buildings". The island will look like Guam in 20 years.
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NiobiumThorn11 hr ago
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US sanctions are crimes against humanity. This article serves as a method of manufacturing consent.
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bigstinkycath11 hr ago
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Honestly, the Castro regime doesn’t even need to do much, just open up a little like China and Vietnam. They could still keep their little autocratic government if they weren’t so scared of private businesses
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give_me_coin10 hr ago
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There is no Castro regime. Castro is dead. Cuba has offered to open up its economy. They have been offering that since 1970s. The US finally accepted the olive branch under Obama. Only to be torched by the next president. The US is not a rational actor. It's submit or die.
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biggsteve8110 hr ago
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Raúl Castro is still very much alive.
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mrjosemeehan8 hr ago
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And very much retired for quite some time now.
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chide_away12 hr ago
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No refrigeration your insulin spoils. Power cuts out you can say adios to ventilators, dialysis machines, nicu incubators, and on and on and on. Killing people for some old grudge is shitty. I wish they could be left alone and able to conduct commerce with those they see fit to do so.
From the little I have seen their lives seem hard enough. Having a collapsed government/failed state 90 miles from Miami doesn't seem like a great plan.
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icantbelieveit163712 hr ago
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It’s not an old grudge the United States would rather see a failed state akin to Haiti than the communists.
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Geaux20208 hr ago
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It's both.
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No-Relief-172912 hr ago
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Why should the Cuban government be left alone? It refuses to hold free and fair elections, and it affects the US, as instead of suppressing or mass incarcerating those opposed to the government, the Cuban government lets people leave easily, easing pressure on the government and allowing them to continue their current way of governing against the consent of the masses, over time this causes more people to be dissatisfied with how things are run in Cuba, but then again those individuals just leave, and the Cuban government doesn’t pay the western governments that those individuals flee to, so why should the west be left holding the bag because Cuba refuses to reform and hold free and fair election. If we leave dictatorships be, it sets a terrible precedent and it costs the west when you consider the refugees that leave those nations, and that’s not including the military costs of those nations choose to have military conflicts, look at Russia, Iran with all its proxy conflicts in the Middle East, North Korea and its counterfeiting of US dollars, selling of weapons to criminal organizations allegedly.
My point is that to answer your question, no, we can’t just leave them alone.
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52-61-64-759 hr ago
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Sure, fine, the Cuban government is bad. I agree. But really? Your solution is a blockade that will result in thousands dying?
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No-Relief-17299 hr ago
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I blame each individual tax payer in a dictatorship for the regime’s crimes due to them paying taxes to said regime and not overthrowing the regime. You might think this to be an extreme opinion, but “ I was just following orders” was agreed to not be a valued excuse by the world, so why should we not hold the citizens of a dictatorship to similar standards as their soldiers.
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Hesitation-Marx9 hr ago
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I think it’s an absolutely lunatic opinion justifying mass death, and I think you would not appreciate it if the same illogic was applied to your kids.
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No-Relief-17299 hr ago
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If I was paying taxes to a dictatorship, then I would compliment in the regime’s crimes and would have to face some form of justice.
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Hesitation-Marx8 hr ago
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Do you mean “complicit”?
Do you think national crimes are okay if a token gesture towards democracy is made?
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52-61-64-758 hr ago
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Mind if I ask where you're from?
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victhebutcher20209 hr ago
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F*** Trump, the Cubans don't deserve this
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Retireegeorge9 hr ago
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US is committing a crime against humanity
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Icy-Computer-Poop8 hr ago
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Hopefully China will be able to fast-track Cuba's new electric grid.
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Clbull8 hr ago
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I'm surprised Trump hasn't annexed the island yet. He seems hell-bent on manifesting destiny and he's already intervened in Venezuela and Iran...
But I'm also surprised the US haven't lifted their trade embargo with Cuba nor made any kind of attempt at reestablishing diplomatic relations. The Cold War ended nearly 35 years ago.
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