Daredevil: Born Again?

Loved the Netflix series. Love Born Again.

how is this Disneyfied ?

watched all the netflix seasons back when they dropped and man, born again just feels... different? like the tone shifted in a way that's hard to describe. maybe it's because disney has their hands on it now but something about the grittiness got smoothed over. the original had this raw edge that made every punch feel heavier, you know? still watching the new one though because charlie cox is perfect as matt murdock, but yeah i get what you mean about not being able to put finger on it exactly.

Honestly I just want more punisher

The dialogue is just a bunch of cliches thrown together, the plot's too linear, and the action setpieces are too few and far between to redeem it. Both DD and Fisk are being motivated by loss/revenge, and it's kind of monotonous. Even Karen only has one chord to play.

Remember season 2 Daredevil would get his ass handed to him and take forever to take down Basic thug#4?

The original series was better. It was more grounded more logical most of the time and had better fight scenes. I liked season 1 of Born Again at certain points when it was doing some fun stuff with Fisk's rose to power, Bulls Eye (the show insisting on having Fisk call him "Poindexter" when it's the least menacing name ever is to me evidence enough that they don't even edit there scripts), and Matt Murdock freaking out about Fisk while still trying to date and defend clients I know season 1 of Born again was a Frankenstein but I think people shit on it a bit too much when the overall arc was halfway decent and there were some excellent episodes in the bunch.  Season 2 has been all of the worst tendencies of season 1 doubled down. It's so much worse. Bad directing. Bad lighting. Weird music choices. Uninteresting fight scenes. Overproduced. The writing is just gibberish and when it does makes sense it's not altogether that interesting. Characters just doing stupid stuff or having motivations that don't seem to matter or make sense. And the whole boat thing is baffling. Why would Fisk need to smuggle guns into the city on a boat? Why would he need to smuggle guns in at all? He has his own SS. The best part of the season so far is Bullseye's little sequence in the latest episode not that that seems to really matter. The plot just doesn't seem to be going anywhere I need to follow. 

It's not holding my attention so I don't know what's going on half the time and not really interested in going back to rewatch.

I feel like the Netflix series was very tight and focused, whereas this Disney incarnation is juggling too many plotlines.

Overall, I liked Born Again more than the "original" series (the one with the same actors). That being said, the first few episodes of Born Again were waaaay better than the middle/later episodes. 

I loved the original. I am enjoying Born Again, season 2 has been better so far than season 1. But it definitely isn’t quite as good.

Born again season one was a bit rough around the edges but they also scrapped whatever the original plans for the story were and did a damn good job salvaging what they could. I'm loving season two. It has the perfect balance of everything. If the only thing you want out of this show are constant fight scenes and action this isn't for you. And I can't wait for >!Jessica Jones to show up!!<

I agree. Not hating this Disney version, but it definitely feels toothless. The original felt raw and brutal. I do think they are doing a good job with the political/corruption and oppressed citizen storyline.

I hated season one of Born again... But I'm absolutely LOVING season 2 of it. Season one did a lot of things I did not like. Karen and Foggy were barely around, there was a brand new cast we were just supposed to adopt and it just felt different and off. Even the fights didn't work for me. It very much felt like a CGI fest in most of the action scenes. Season 2 feels like Netflix Daredevil again. Karen is core character again, Matt actually shows his face in church, they brought back the boxing subplot (kinda). Bullseye is back FR. It just feels like a return to form. And this seasons suit might just be my favorite of the whole series (both netflix and born again). Also there is some great camera work and lighting.

The story and dialog is fine, at best. It's not that bad but it's definitely not on par with the original Netflix series. My biggest issue is how bad everything looks - the lighting, CGI, camera work, special effects, costumes, all of it looks incredibly c****. I think Daredevil: Born Again is one of the most low-budget looking shows Disney has made.

The characters in Born Again are great and as good as they’ve ever been imo. But the overall plot is just meh whatever. Watching Bullseye obliterate the task force or Fisk chewing scenery is awesome but i just don’t care about the run of the mill corrupt bad guy does bad things and gets away with it. It works fine in any medium it just hasnt been done well in Born Again imo. The characters and action though have been class

I didn't like the part where Matt jumped in front of a bullet to save Fisk.