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Daredevil Born Again S2 has to be the most nitpicked tv season since forever

Posted by Previous_Break7664

I get that it will not be for everyone due to the heights that the Netflix show reached, criticism is also fine and healthy for a show to have but I feel like most of what I have seen about this season so far has been in bad faith, those people be shitting on it for the sake of shitting on it or because Daredevil is ”mcu slop” now Most of the dogpiling being about how ”bad” it looks visually which I don’t agree with when it comes to THIS season, different to the Netflix show (and not as good) yup but it doesn’t necessarily look bad imo I have my own criticism too of some of the writing of this szn but will wait until all the eps have been released to see if it is warranted
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Frosty-Winner-5063 Apr 11, 2026 +5
Dude they started the new season before this by killing Foggy - just about the lamest hack writing that was possible  Then Kingpin comes for no f****** reason to do a trump parallel - low hanging fruit , more hack writing  There is not even 10% of action choreography that made the original series legend  And I can't stress this enough -  JERSEY CITY IS NOT THE F****** CROWN JEWEL OF AMERICA  I mean it can't be.... 
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Nethlem Apr 13, 2026
I'm watching the first episode of the new season, and it's kinda terribad. DD went onto that ship beat people up really badly, like lucky if some of them survive badly. Then 20 minutes later he tries to guilt trip Cherry into the investigation by going; "Men died on that boat!", like wtf? The whole reason that boat capsized, and men died was DD going complete sicko-mode on the dudes there lol
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dylanreed1 Apr 13, 2026 +4
You can’t be serious right? Daredevil doesn’t kill lol the captain is the one who killed everyone by sinking the ship. Did you want daredevil to just do nothing about a ship full of illegal weapons? Did you want him to magically save everyone from a sinking ship?
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Conscious-Quarter423 Apr 11, 2026 +18
The Rings of Power?
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Spaceballs_the_tag Apr 11, 2026 +3
I'd argue ROP was nitpicked early on, but then written off pretty quickly by a lot of people. Definitely nitpicked, but most of the biggest complainers I know didn't even return for season 2, let alone a third.
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IStoneI42 Apr 11, 2026 +2
it deserved everything it got. it was dumb from the first minute. the dialogue was ridiculous and pretentious. "do you know why ships float?". it has a lot of the same pretentiousness that star trek discovery had. they delivered these lines in a tone as if they had some sort of deep meaning or gravitas, they were supposed to **sound** mysterious, philosophical or intellectual somehow and there was really no real meaning behind those words. what they actually said didnt make sense and was random nonsense. its dialogue written by stupid people who want to sound intellectual. also picking a fight with the tolkien fandom has to be **the** worst decision you could possibly make. these people read his books like religious text, so if you ever make an adaptation of tolkiens work you better stay faithful to it and to its themes. there were definitely better ways to adapt the lore of the silmarillion. condensing thousands of years of history into a few years was one of the bad choices. they could have either adapted this kind of lore as an anthology show or went with several centuries time jumps in between while using elves as the main characters to connect everything together. this is just one of the examples of the many bad choices they made.
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bagman_ Apr 11, 2026 +7
This season has been really good and unfairly nitpicked for sure but this post is a bit of an overstatement
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Previous_Break7664 Apr 11, 2026 -7
Never said how long its been since forever 😚
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Conscious-Quarter423 Apr 11, 2026 +8
Ashoka?
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Previous_Break7664 Apr 11, 2026 -9
Ahsoka is not good
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nomorecannibalbirds Apr 11, 2026 +1
I liked it.
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Previous_Break7664 Apr 11, 2026 -9
Thats fine, its just not for me
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nomorecannibalbirds Apr 11, 2026 +2
Fair enough.
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EffectzHD Apr 11, 2026 +3
I just watched a clip of the prison escape from the Netflix show and honestly it’s justified.
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TheeAmateurArtist Apr 11, 2026 +14
She Hulk Ms. Marvel Anything with a woman or black person or non straight people
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FineTension6944 4 days ago +1
This is rage bait right
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Conscious-Quarter423 Apr 11, 2026 +4
Stranger Things?
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Razzler1973 Apr 11, 2026 +5
There's sooooo many shows I watch and enjoy to varying degrees and log onto listnook to find all manner of whining and why did that character do that and this is different from a book and the outfit looked bad and blah blah blah It's exhausting watching TV in this way
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PlatesofChips Apr 14, 2026 +1
Literally just did a google to see if anyone else was enjoying the new season and apparently people on Listnook hate it… this place really is its own enemy sometimes.
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nicklovin508 Apr 11, 2026 +5
I’ll be honest I don’t even hear about Daredevil
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Conscious-Quarter423 Apr 11, 2026 +3
The Witcher?
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Previous_Break7664 Apr 11, 2026
Ehhhh its not that great but Cavill is good in it
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Stumpyz Apr 11, 2026 +2
The Acolyte? Starfleet Academy? All the other shows mentioned?
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NahdiraZidea Apr 11, 2026 +2
Acolyte had some actual issues that were way over blown unfortunatley
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IceLord86 Apr 11, 2026 +1
She Hulk had a 30 second twerking scene at the end of 1 episode and that's all people talk about. The discourse on a bunch of shows usually comes down to people making a big deal about 1 or 2 scenes.
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Previous_Break7664 Apr 11, 2026 +1
The massive outrage people had because of minorities starring in the show was louder than the actual issues and criticism rational people had
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epraider Apr 11, 2026 +1
It’s just every show when discussed on the internet now, it’s not enjoyable to engage in anymore. People nitpick the shit out of everything.
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Conscious-Quarter423 Apr 11, 2026 +1
Ironheart
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BecoDasCavernas Apr 11, 2026 +1
I haven't started yet, what's up with the visuals compared to the original show?
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LosIngobernable Apr 11, 2026 +1
People nitpicking and comparing it to past iterations will always be a thing. You see it with the Boys after 2 EPISODES. I wait until the season finish to binge. These type of shows are best to do it that way.
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urgasmic Apr 12, 2026 +1
yeah maybe. online discussion is crazy overrated though. after people used mr. robot leaks in discussion threads to sound very smart i try to limit myself.
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Educational-Tone-146 Apr 14, 2026 +1
She-Hulk and Agatha All Along were both good shows that were made out to be trainwrecks by a lot of people. Trust me this isn't as bad, plus Born Again does have a lot of issues compared to the Netflix show which was almost flawless.
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Caramel-Murky 1 day ago +1
The only problem I have so far with S2 is just how unbelievably SLOW the pacing is. I know they are likely setting something up but it just feels like there isn't enough going on to keep the audience very engaged. I think S1 was far superior up to this point.
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PreferenceAnxious449 Apr 11, 2026
*laughs in Game of Thrones finale*
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varzaguy Apr 11, 2026 +8
There is nothing to nitpick. The issues with the finale is like a freight train pulverizing you.
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PreferenceAnxious449 Apr 11, 2026 -7
Wow, broad sweeping unfalsifiable statements. how brave of you
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varzaguy Apr 11, 2026 +1
If you think the finale is quality we got nothing to talk about and we aren’t living in the same reality lmao. Not about to type out a dissertation to you about why the finale is bad. Plenty of media out there already for that.
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PreferenceAnxious449 Apr 11, 2026 -4
If you think you can read my mind, same
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Mavman11 Apr 11, 2026 +1
I think its just the loud minority you're seeing. Season 2 of born again has very high ratings on reviewing website. Its just right wing grifers that are critiquing it tbh.
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Previous_Break7664 Apr 11, 2026 +2
Nah its not just RW grifters
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Mavman11 Apr 11, 2026 +1
I've seen most people complain because they think the show is mocking trump comparing Kingpin and the AVTF to Trump and Ice. Which is also just not the case this season was written before Trump took office and its a comic book storyline.
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sethsom3thing Apr 11, 2026 +1
Just say people I disagree with. RW grifters basically just means that anyway 
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ChainLC Apr 11, 2026
exactly, Kingpin and their cult leader are too similar for them to be comfortable with. And the anti-vigilante task force is ICE. Same with "The Boys". The parallels are too similar with real life and they don't like it.
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Feeling_Class_8771 Apr 14, 2026 +1
Personally, I don't care about the storyline. I don't like it because they replaced Foggy with a Black woman, for representation's sake. I don't like that they're making Karen a girl-boss (beating up and kidnapping an AVTF agent?). I don't like that they said they were bringing Foggy back, then BS'd that they agonized over killing him, when we know that there's no way they could bring him back and fire the Black woman hired to replace him. I don't like that they replaced Mahoney with Cherry. I prefer the Netflix version of the show. Nelson Murdock and Page, Avocados at Law.
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ChainLC Apr 14, 2026 +1
so blacks and strong females bother you. got it.
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Feeling_Class_8771 Apr 14, 2026 +1
Not at all. I hope they bring back Elektra. Glad they're bringing back Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. What I don't like is swapping characters for representation's sake. I don't like re-writing a character's persona to fit the "modern audience". I'm hoping that bringing back both Kristin Ritter and Mike Colter will lead to them getting their shows back as well.
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ChainLC Apr 14, 2026 +1
how do you know that was their motivation for those changes? did they come out and say so? Originally Foggy was killed off to serve as the major plot point of season 1. Not just to replace him with a black female but to have the emotional effect on Matt. You are ascribing motivation with no proof other than your own opinion. Unless they stated it was a DEI hire for political correctness. and Mahoney is coming back btw.
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Feeling_Class_8771 Apr 15, 2026 +1
Right, as if they're going to say that we can't bring Foggy back because we've replaced him with a black woman. And there's absolutely no way in this current political climate that they would replace a black woman with a white man. Heck, point me to one show in the last 10 years that has replaced a black woman with a white man? What is the point in Kirsten's character if she isn't a Foggy replacement? I think that maybe they changed her dynamic, and probably her prominence in the show, when they changed BA from a courtroom procedural back to an action show. I will say this, for me episode 5 has been the best one of the season because it was all Foggy, no Kirsten and no Cherry. Closest we've had to the Netflix version so far. They said Foggy was coming back too. In 1.5 seasons we have one episode of Foggy, so how much Mahoney do you think they'll give us since we have Cherry as his replacement?
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ChainLC Apr 15, 2026 +1
you're implying that because "they wouldn't say it", proves they did it for that reason; total fallacy. also they needed someone in Matt's circle to represent Swordmaster that wasn't being sought by Fisk. As for Mahoney we don't know how much screen time he will be getting. But he is a cop, Cherry retired and now a P.I. It could be strictly that it made more sense plot wise and not some nefarious scheme to piss you off. Wait until you see who replaces Fisk as Mayor lol. A black woman. You gonna self-immolate over that one?
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Feeling_Class_8771 Apr 15, 2026 +1
and you're implying that because they didn't say it that it isn't the reason, what's the difference? No, they didn't need someone in Matt's circle to defend the Swordmaster. Why did it have to be someone in Matt's circle? They didn't even have to write it so that he needed an attorney. Cherry is Mahoney's replacement in the original vision of the BA series before it was retooled. Since they couldn't reshoot everything in season 1, when they switched from courtroom procedural to action/drama, they couldn't just drop him and bring back Mahoney. The same thing happened with Kirsten. We're five episodes into the new season, how much time do you think Mahoney can actually get now? I don't care if they make the new mayor a black woman, as long as they don't replace Wilson Fisk with Wilma Fisk. Look. I'm just a fan of the Netflix show, and I don't like the decisions they've made with this version. I can guess at the reasons for their choices and based on Disney history I believe my guesses are probably closer to correct than not. You don't think so, and that's fine.
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ChainLC Apr 15, 2026 +1
"and you're implying that because they didn't say it that it isn't the reason, what's the difference?" the difference is you're the accuser and the burden of proof is on you. "why did it have to be someone in Matt's circle?" Because otherwise Matt would not have gotten that level of cooperation or detail from them. He probably wouldn't have even attempted it with any generic def atty. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
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Stallrim Apr 15, 2026 +1
Nah bro, shit writing for these characters bother us. Get a good actor, doesnt have to be famous I am pretty sure there enough indie actors who can represent, and write properly, that's it, when the actors or writers are bad or both and people criticise, people like you blame the person criticizing by calling them RW or someone who is against representation, nah man we aren't against representation. We against sloppy writing, editing, acting etc. This general hypocrisy showcased by the majority of liberals is why we got people fed up and rise in Right Wing all over the world.
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ChainLC Apr 15, 2026
oh so only the black and female characters are written poorly? you guys really go to great lengths rationalizing your prejudices. spinning like a whirling dervish. whatever lets you sleep at night.
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Stallrim Apr 15, 2026 +1
My friend I am a person of color as well. Atleast if I lived in America. So yes most of the time I find that when minority characters are written they are mostly bad or seem like more thought was given into satisfying the liberal idealistic ego and less into actually researching and understanding the said minority character. And no not all are written bad but the majority are, and even this pattern has been observed where a good interesting white character is replaced by barebones minority character. Even in historical fiction. It's just embarrassing tbh. Focus on quality rather than satisfying your privileged idealistic mind just to make you feel better about your self without actually knowing or understanding the reality.
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