Judgin' from the music point of view i'll Say Masturbed
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anonymous_pastramiApr 16, 2026
+237
Roger waters while David drainsman…
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meccamachineApr 16, 2026
+22
Oh my god
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FigdudetonApr 17, 2026
+8
It’s like Hideo Kojima wrote it.
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Badger_SolomonApr 16, 2026
+60
Doesn't help his case that he's threatening an old man with violence
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Count_Yorga69Apr 19, 2026
+2
“F*** Roger Waters” seems to be the general consensus from like every musician from over the last 50 years, just throwing that out there, can’t say I’m surprised
Also David Draiman is 53, middle-old age so tbh I just see this as grumpy old men being grumpy old men
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beekermcApr 16, 2026
+411
Draiman should go write some more messages on bombs to be dropped on kids.
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nthensomeApr 16, 2026
+82
Sigh.
FFS, what did he do?
I'm unaware of this.
Do I *really* want to be informed on this matter?
wow, f*** this dude. i haven’t liked Disturbed since i was 12 anyway, but still. what a piece of shit
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_steve_rogers_Apr 16, 2026
+50
Yeah if he had any hair it would slick back REAL nice.
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sLeeeeToApr 16, 2026
+17
you think that’s slicked back??
that’s PUSHED back
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supercleverhandle476Apr 16, 2026
+8
You know he’s in the dangerous nights crew
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TheThockterApr 16, 2026
+45
Having Ozzy in his profile pic who has a song called war pigs that is (arguably) his best and one his most prolific songs and then going and posting that is an insane lack of self awareness
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RecoveringpigApr 16, 2026
+39
I hate to be that guy but war pigs was a sabbath song. Ozzy gets credit for it but it was mostly written by Iommi and Geezer, Geezer having written the lyrics. Id also like to mention Ozzy didn’t become a household name until he went out on his own.
Edit: I’d like to add walpurgis is the original version before it was an anti war song. You can find it on YouTube
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TheThockterApr 16, 2026
+18
No I agree, it’s a fair callout and Geezer deserves the credit for the absolute poetry that the war pigs lyrics are.
I just didn’t include the context because I didn’t think most people would distinguish them. I know it’s a Sabbath song and I love Black Sabbath and wasn’t trying to imply it was part of Ozzy’s solo act
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RecoveringpigApr 16, 2026
+5
I love Black Sabbath too.
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blueishblackbirdApr 17, 2026
+5
But what is Black Sabbath without Ozzy? Dio.
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RemoteBonerApr 16, 2026
+10
Only a bass player would rhyme masses with masses
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Learned__HandApr 17, 2026
+2
It's ahead of its time. Lots of rappers rhyming the same word with different meanings.
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Emotional_Database53Apr 17, 2026
+2
Sharon also is guilty of this
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Sean_theLeprachaunApr 16, 2026
+25
Im not actually down with that sickness.
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Emotional_Database53Apr 17, 2026
+2
For real, I think I’m actually finally totally cured of the Sickness! It’s a miracle!
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MistAzulApr 16, 2026
+3
I'm stupified
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JohnnyGeniusIsAliveApr 16, 2026
+8
Draiman is from a conservative jewish family and is extremely pro-israel. Pretty much the whole reason he doesn't like Waters is because he's critical of Israel.
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_Miss_EclipseApr 16, 2026
+12
He went to Israel and signed bombs with various "f*** you" messages. One of the said "f*** HAMAS," but as we all know, this war isn't about taking out HAMAS. It's about destroying the palestinians. Forcing them out of Israel. Does bombs were absolutely used to kill innocent women and children. And he has never cared about that. He only doubles down and calls anybody that calls him out an antisemite. Hasbara 101
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Middle_Aged_MayhemApr 16, 2026
+22
He's ok with child murder.
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AnotherAndyYetAgainApr 16, 2026
+3
Guy signed bombs "meant for Hamas", then talks about love, peace and unity. He's immune to irony it seems.
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palesnowrider1Apr 16, 2026
+3
Yeah he was writing messages on IDF bombs
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sk_starscreamApr 16, 2026
+4
He signed IDF artillery shells.
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Galahad_the_RangerApr 17, 2026
+5
Ironic that the guy who wrote “No More” is now fine with defending the lies and being their w****
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Winter_Body4794Apr 16, 2026
+46
Draiman is cool with killing children. Noted.
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FarOutMagazineApr 16, 2026
+53
*From Far Out Magazine:*
The long-running feud between David Draiman and Roger Waters has escalated further following recent comments from the Disturbed singer.
Draiman has been a vocal critic of Waters for several years, frequently accusing him of antisemitism and strongly opposing his political views. In past interviews, he has described Waters as a “monster” and “antisemitic to his rotten core,” reflecting a deeply entrenched disagreement between the two musicians.
The latest remarks, in which Draiman suggested he would physically confront Waters, underline how personal the dispute has become. Their conflict sits within a broader divide in the music world, where artists have increasingly taken opposing positions on political issues and public activism.
The exchange adds another chapter to one of rock’s more heated modern rivalries.
Read more for free:
[https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/disturbeds-david-draiman-threatens-to-punch-roger-waters/](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/disturbeds-david-draiman-threatens-to-punch-roger-waters/)
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Dust601Apr 16, 2026
+134
The guy who signed bombs with a big happy smile on his face, bombs that were then used to flatten a entire region killing thousands of innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict wants to call someone else a monster? F*** that egotistical d bag. F*** both these losers.
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ttsjunkieApr 16, 2026
+31
Draiman did that? Nvm kept scrolling. Damn. Not they they come up on my playlist
often but not anymore.
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tilero1138Apr 17, 2026
+16
He was one of the performers at the Ozzy/Sabbath farewell show last year, and when he took the stage the entire crowd was booing him. It was so loud it was audible on the livestream I was watching.
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motoramblerApr 17, 2026
+6
How is Waters a loser in your example? The guy has beenvocal about Israeli atrocities for YEARS
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provisioningsApr 18, 2026
+4
Roger is extremely ant-war and many people mistakenly assumed his dismay with the Ukraine situation is because he’s pro Russia or some other some right winged ideology .. when in reality he’s unhappy with the US meddling and just the war in general.
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Zauberer-IMDBApr 16, 2026
+3
Just two pieces of shit on different sides of the aisle.
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provisioningsApr 17, 2026
+6
Roger is not a piece of shit.
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Zauberer-IMDBApr 17, 2026
+7
Yeah, ok. He just thinks Ukraine is in the wrong after Russia invaded it.
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provisioningsApr 18, 2026
+2
You have to look at it from his perspective, an outsider who sees America for what it truly is, an imperialist country. Yeah.. Russia aint great. But Ukraine and Russia are right next to one another.. and they had an agreement.. the Minsk agreement and it was violated. Look, I’m not standing up for Russia at all but I get how others see us. How would we feel if China wanted to take Canada and place their military bases in Canada?. With their missiles pointing in our direction? We would feel threatened by that.. threatened enough to do something. Roger means well .. truly. Also.. Check out Jeff Sachs on YouTube. He explains it well.. the difference between what dipshit disturbd stands for compared to the russe/ukraine situation.. they don’t even compare. Roger is extremely anti war and Dramain is signing his name on bombs to be dropped on innocents.
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Luci-NoirApr 17, 2026
+2
It’s called genocide.
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rumblefish0000000Apr 16, 2026
+67
He's Roger Waters, this is not a first for him
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palabearApr 16, 2026
+44
For him, it was Tuesday.
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Dickduck21Apr 16, 2026
+16
He's like the only guy Conan O'Brien has ever talked shit about. Must leave quite an impression.
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WalterPeckyApr 16, 2026
+36
> where artists have increasingly taken opposing positions on political issues and public activism
This is nothing new. What is new is the scumbags like Disturb's singer, taking the side of the oppressor
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coopnjaxdadApr 16, 2026
+31
How did we end up at "you said killing innocent people and babies is evil, that makes you an antisemite!"..
It truly is wild, oh and Disturbed sucks, always has and always will.
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FungusFlyApr 16, 2026
+21
The Disturbed Tour-Brought to you by Ticketmaster and AIPAC
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AdhesivenessFun2060Apr 16, 2026
+35
Im sure waters deserves to be punched but not for this.
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Saul_T_BaulsApr 16, 2026
+37
Disturbed is divorced dad rock. Disturbed sucks.
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SuperVaderMinionApr 17, 2026
+3
It's so wild watching certain bands like Disturbed and Staind go from "angry white boy" music to "I lost my custody hearing" music
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lucidsparkApr 17, 2026
+3
As a divorced dad... ew I would never! :)
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Select-Appearance707Apr 17, 2026
+3
Cop funeral music
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Saul_T_BaulsApr 17, 2026
+2
Oh wow, that's a good one! I'm saving that one.
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LasersAndButtsApr 16, 2026
+9
Bro looks like Bobby Kelly these days
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ThatguyfromBaltimoreApr 16, 2026
+3
Yeah you know what dude, I'm down with the sickness dude cause I broke my knee dude
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SnooDonuts3878Apr 16, 2026
+8
He really is disturbed.
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Slob_KingApr 16, 2026
+57
Let’s assume both musicians are equally massive pieces of shit just for arguments sake, at least Roger Waters contributed something to the world that will be remembered in 2126 and beyond.
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WalterPeckyApr 16, 2026
+30
Hey now, what about that totally sick Sound of Silence cover
/S
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ManateeNipplesApr 16, 2026
+10
No the best thing about disturbed is the covers of The Sickness done by pet parrots on youtube lol
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Stormblessed_PhotogApr 16, 2026
+3
Personally, my favorite thing about Disturbed is the cover of Shaggy's "It Wasn't Me" that someone did in the style of Disturbed on YouTube that I found moderately amusing for a few minutes.
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owenstumorApr 17, 2026
+4
Ooh WA AH AH!!!
You heard that in your head right?
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Few_Sheepherder8515Apr 17, 2026
+1
Dude David got his ass kicked by his mom mid recording leave him alone
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Fickle_NarwhalApr 16, 2026
+20
Draiman is a piece of shit. In other news, the sky is blue.
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Jaggs0Apr 16, 2026
+12
i had backstage passes to ozzfest in 2000. i was standing on the side of the stage and he tried standing in front of my shorter friend. my friend was like 5' 5", draiman was just as little taller. so i, 6' 1" swapped with him. a few minutes later draiman moved in front of my friend again. so i swapped with him again. it happened like 3 more times over the course of whatever bands set it was. real class act
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PynchHitterApr 17, 2026
+2
Um, ackshually, the sky isn’t blue. It MAKES things blue!
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_Badwulf_Bruh__Apr 16, 2026
+84
Last I checked criticizing a country isn’t anti-Semitic.
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Academic_Lead_8938Apr 16, 2026
+10
In America you could lose your livelihood. You can call the President any word you want, in either party. Israel can never be criticized
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AppropriateSea5746Apr 16, 2026
+72
Threatening to punch senior citizen for not wanting to fund genocide
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TheRealThordicApr 16, 2026
+15
I mean Waters almost certainly deserves to be punched but if anyone gets to do it, it should be Gilmour or Mason.
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Reasonable_Tap_8215Apr 16, 2026
+31
This guy ripped off the Sound of Silence and Land of Confusion, memorized the lyrics, and failed to comprehend the message of either.
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_IndyCarApr 16, 2026
+33
I f****** hate this clown more and more every f****** year.
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Funk_ApusApr 17, 2026
+6
Sad footnote threatens to punch music legend in face. There, I fixed the headline.
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EtzellApr 16, 2026
+53
Well, it's better than autographing bombs that will be dropped on his house, I guess.
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rumskiApr 16, 2026
+15
I remember when the guys in Finch were dunking on Disturbed. Memmmmmoriesssss
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MrMansaMusaApr 16, 2026
+57
Doesn't he have kids to bomb tho?
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Puppetmaster858Apr 16, 2026
+5
Draiman is such a fuckin loser and disturbed is certified fuckin trash
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ListerfiendLurksApr 17, 2026
+2
I'm honestly baffled at how they got so famous. Rock and Roll music quality in general fell off cliff later the mid 90's with grunge falling out of favor. I'm convinced that quality void is the only reason they were able to become famous. Who were they even competing against for the spotlight Staind? POD? Lol.
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ArtJimpApr 17, 2026
+7
They’re both assholes, but at least one of them has written some of the best albums of all time.
Ooo ah ha ah ah!
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TwistedPepperCanApr 16, 2026
+14
There are a lot of reasons to dislike both of them but the newest reason to dislike Draiman is that he made me side with Waters on something.
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m19010101Apr 16, 2026
+10
Draiman is a toe headed fuckstick
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OilMeUpStewartApr 16, 2026
+12
Get up! Come on get down with genocide
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ErrorProfessional143Apr 16, 2026
+4
Is he the OOOO WAH AH AH AH AH guy?
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mangoboi440Apr 16, 2026
+4
I feel like on this issue Roger Waters def is owed some apologies.
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SnivyEyesApr 16, 2026
+4
Roger is correct to criticize Israel for the crimes they have committed. That is not being antisemitic at all, how is it? There are many Jews that are maddened over this issue, does that make them also antisemitic?
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DtheAussieBoyeApr 17, 2026
+4
Goddamnit, he’s really going to make me side with local loudmouth Roger Waters, huh?
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Corporate-ScumApr 16, 2026
+6
One is a genius, the other is completely irrelevant. Disturbed probably had to pay for this headline.
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a_sad_and_slow_handyApr 16, 2026
+3
Not very christian of him
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Low_Intention_1327Apr 16, 2026
+3
Corgan continued his hypothesis that Waters has made “very strong statements against Israel” because of this: “It makes sense to me that a man who grew up in the shadow of World War II, lost his daddy in a war, has really suffered the consequence of that pain, that he would be hypersensitive to a scenario like that.”
Yeah, f*** head. This is precisely why hes against what Israel's doing. Its very reminiscent of how Germany acted in WW2.
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TheNonCredibleHulkApr 17, 2026
+1
Buuuuuuuuuuut, Russia invading Ukraine was "provoked".
F*** Roger Waters.
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my_boy_blu_Apr 16, 2026
+3
Really confused as to why Disturbed and Staind guy aren’t side by side kid rock doing his dumb thing.
They can be the unholy triumvirate of shitty alt rock bands from the 90s no one even remembers anymore.
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ekobresApr 17, 2026
+3
Everyone Sucks Here.
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devilsbardApr 16, 2026
+8
Can they both lose the fight?
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Prisoner3000Apr 16, 2026
+12
Doesn’t he have some bombs to write on?
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theDudeofIBApr 16, 2026
+6
Jake Paul called. If an old man needs punching, he'll take care of it.
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I_AM_ME-7Apr 16, 2026
+2
Disturbed is music for 12 year olds with mommy issues.
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Skylon1Apr 16, 2026
+4
Roger Waters is 82 years old lol.
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BuzzKill91Apr 16, 2026
+6
Says the guy who signed munitions that mo doubt went on to kill.men, women and children.
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cheffartsonurfoodApr 16, 2026
+11
From what I gather, they are BOTH garbage.
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Games142Apr 17, 2026
+2
I remember seeing Rob Zombie live and disturbed played right after, Rob Zombie sounded fantastic and had excellent production on stage, Disturbed was so incredibly lame by comparison, the drunken fight that broke out as I was leaving was a lot more entertaining.
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Special_Life_9625Apr 17, 2026
+2
Saw disturbed get in a fight with the band finch of stage in 2004.
If it weren’t for sevendust, draiman would’ve gotten his ass beat
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Unlikely_VillainApr 17, 2026
+2
Waters is a prick, always has been. Not sure about the other guy, no idea who he is but hes probably one too.
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gingerislaApr 17, 2026
+2
They should punch each other. It would never hit the wrong person.
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WafflesTheWookieeApr 17, 2026
+2
I’m of the opinion that both of these men suck.
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Bob_The_MexicanApr 17, 2026
+2
I have always found Disturbed to be utter dogshit and now that it's cool to hate on them I am extremely happy.
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cleveland_14Apr 17, 2026
+2
Dave Draiman has a tiny d*** and is a morally bankrupt douchebag who enjoys supporting the mass bombing of innocent humans. Dave can take his way past it's prime dad buttrock band and pound sand
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Smooth-Lead9000Apr 17, 2026
+2
It’s in his blood to hurt defenseless people.
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DingleBerrySconeApr 16, 2026
+3
Punch Roger Waters and deal with me, you low down dirty t***.
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MyAccountWasBanned7Apr 16, 2026
+1
Draiman supports genocide and bombing kids. He can go f*** himself!
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Party-Kangaroo-1139Apr 16, 2026
+2
After the punch, when his hand is broken (because that dude is one soft ass m***********) will Daviid scream out in pain "oooo ow ow ow ow" while Roger Waters just laughs at him?
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WreckingshopsApr 16, 2026
+2
They're both colossal douchebags.
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YabbatownApr 17, 2026
+2
Draisman is a Bibi supporter and Waters in a putin apologist. Everyone mentioned in that sentence can go an f*** themselves.
Drainsman going to Isreal to write messages on shells is pretty low. Roger Waters has never found an atrocity outside of those that Israel commits that he won't find ways to blame on the US or the victims. His whole stance on the Ukraine war and thinking that allowing russia to conquer Ukraine is a really stupid, rat move.
They're both peices of shit, so pretty happy to watch them fight it out.
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highandinarabbitholeApr 17, 2026
+2
He’s a f****** loser and his band is a joke, easily one of the shittiest and corniest bands of the last 50 years. He should feel honored if Roger even knows he exists.
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tedbot67Apr 16, 2026
+2
Wait...doesn't everybody want to punch Roger Waters?
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lectroidApr 16, 2026
+2
If there’s a fight, maybe they’ll each disable the other’s ability to speak.
That way everyone wins.
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Acceptable-Bullfrog1Apr 16, 2026
+2
They’re both assholes and I hope they do fight each other
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DukeDup0ntApr 16, 2026
+2
A never-was threatens to punch a has-been.
No. One. Cares.
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No-Enthusiasm3579Apr 16, 2026
+1
F#%k Draiman, Israel's actions are the main thing hurting Jews, second thing is jackwagons like him trying to lump calling out genocide as antisemitic
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Top5hottestApr 16, 2026
+1
For since reason i kept reading the headline as john waters..
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Electronic-Lunch7735Apr 16, 2026
+1
Wait, Disturbed has... FANS?!?!?
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Snakepli55kenApr 16, 2026
+1
Genocide is bad mmkay.
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FlashyPaladinApr 16, 2026
+1
This is so disappointing. I’ve always liked Disturbed’s music and I used to really respect this guy…
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SaulTNNutzApr 16, 2026
+1
Roger Waters is a jerk but I haven't seen anything he's said that is clearly anti-semetic. He has criticized the Israeli government but has he actually said anything that is racially demeaning to the Jewish people?
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No_Strike655Apr 17, 2026
+1
He's trotted out some old anti Semitic the jews "run entertainment" shit plenty of times but he just really really hates Israel and any Jews who live there and has called for the whole state to ve dismantled and ship all the people back to "eastern Europe or wherever" because they have no real claim to the land and are just Europeans.
Basically yeh dude kinda takes it a bit farther than a lot of people in here want to pretend.
That being said Draiman is also a f****** tool so....
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GoldDoubleCupApr 17, 2026
+1
He joined the BDS movement in 2011 and ever since there has been a flood of negative articles about him.
They squashed BDS so well that it hasn’t been from since around 2011.
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giftsfor_theearthApr 16, 2026
+1
Does anyone still listen to disturbed?
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Snackdoc189Apr 16, 2026
+1
Waters is 82. Draiman must feel like a hell of a tough guy threatening an old man.
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babycallmemabelApr 17, 2026
+1
If anyone would like an excellent song hating on David Draiman, check out Can I Have Your Autograph? by Stray From The Path.
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SnooLobsters6766Apr 17, 2026
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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bunkbumpApr 17, 2026
+1
I like David Gilmore more anyways
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SomeGuyOverUnderApr 17, 2026
+1
F****** Corgan. Such an idiot. Ugh.
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hanqingjaoApr 17, 2026
+1
Everyone sucks here. I wouldn't mind them taking each other out. And I was a massive fan of both bands.
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BonesMalone2Apr 17, 2026
+1
Poor fella
Looks like the baby from Roger Rabbit 🥹
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NonProphet8theistApr 17, 2026
+1
Ooo wa-a-a-a
Get up come on ya
Punch Roger Waters
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Filthy_MidianApr 18, 2026
+1
Draiman is like 4'2". He'll have to jump pretty high to hit Waters face.
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Acrobatic-Bike-2507Apr 18, 2026
+1
Drainman looks like a infected testicle.
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Familiar_Swim817Apr 19, 2026
+1
I mean, maybe some musical talent would rub off on him. I know blasting drywall hasn’t helped his career any, but maybe this hypothetical punch would be different.
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