Judgin' from the music point of view i'll Say Masturbed
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anonymous_pastrami3 days ago
+237
Roger waters while David drainsman…
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meccamachine2 days ago
+22
Oh my god
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Figdudeton2 days ago
+8
It’s like Hideo Kojima wrote it.
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Badger_Solomon3 days ago
+60
Doesn't help his case that he's threatening an old man with violence
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Count_Yorga699 hr ago
+2
“F*** Roger Waters” seems to be the general consensus from like every musician from over the last 50 years, just throwing that out there, can’t say I’m surprised
Also David Draiman is 53, middle-old age so tbh I just see this as grumpy old men being grumpy old men
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beekermc3 days ago
+411
Draiman should go write some more messages on bombs to be dropped on kids.
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nthensome3 days ago
+82
Sigh.
FFS, what did he do?
I'm unaware of this.
Do I *really* want to be informed on this matter?
wow, f*** this dude. i haven’t liked Disturbed since i was 12 anyway, but still. what a piece of shit
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_steve_rogers_2 days ago
+50
Yeah if he had any hair it would slick back REAL nice.
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sLeeeeTo2 days ago
+17
you think that’s slicked back??
that’s PUSHED back
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supercleverhandle4762 days ago
+8
You know he’s in the dangerous nights crew
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TheThockter2 days ago
+45
Having Ozzy in his profile pic who has a song called war pigs that is (arguably) his best and one his most prolific songs and then going and posting that is an insane lack of self awareness
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Recoveringpig2 days ago
+39
I hate to be that guy but war pigs was a sabbath song. Ozzy gets credit for it but it was mostly written by Iommi and Geezer, Geezer having written the lyrics. Id also like to mention Ozzy didn’t become a household name until he went out on his own.
Edit: I’d like to add walpurgis is the original version before it was an anti war song. You can find it on YouTube
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TheThockter2 days ago
+18
No I agree, it’s a fair callout and Geezer deserves the credit for the absolute poetry that the war pigs lyrics are.
I just didn’t include the context because I didn’t think most people would distinguish them. I know it’s a Sabbath song and I love Black Sabbath and wasn’t trying to imply it was part of Ozzy’s solo act
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Recoveringpig2 days ago
+5
I love Black Sabbath too.
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blueishblackbird2 days ago
+5
But what is Black Sabbath without Ozzy? Dio.
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RemoteBoner2 days ago
+10
Only a bass player would rhyme masses with masses
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Learned__Hand2 days ago
+2
It's ahead of its time. Lots of rappers rhyming the same word with different meanings.
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Emotional_Database532 days ago
+2
Sharon also is guilty of this
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Sean_theLeprachaun2 days ago
+25
Im not actually down with that sickness.
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Emotional_Database532 days ago
+2
For real, I think I’m actually finally totally cured of the Sickness! It’s a miracle!
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MistAzul2 days ago
+3
I'm stupified
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JohnnyGeniusIsAlive3 days ago
+8
Draiman is from a conservative jewish family and is extremely pro-israel. Pretty much the whole reason he doesn't like Waters is because he's critical of Israel.
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_Miss_Eclipse3 days ago
+12
He went to Israel and signed bombs with various "f*** you" messages. One of the said "f*** HAMAS," but as we all know, this war isn't about taking out HAMAS. It's about destroying the palestinians. Forcing them out of Israel. Does bombs were absolutely used to kill innocent women and children. And he has never cared about that. He only doubles down and calls anybody that calls him out an antisemite. Hasbara 101
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Middle_Aged_Mayhem2 days ago
+22
He's ok with child murder.
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AnotherAndyYetAgain3 days ago
+3
Guy signed bombs "meant for Hamas", then talks about love, peace and unity. He's immune to irony it seems.
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palesnowrider13 days ago
+3
Yeah he was writing messages on IDF bombs
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sk_starscream3 days ago
+4
He signed IDF artillery shells.
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Galahad_the_Ranger2 days ago
+5
Ironic that the guy who wrote “No More” is now fine with defending the lies and being their w****
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Winter_Body47943 days ago
+46
Draiman is cool with killing children. Noted.
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FarOutMagazine3 days ago
+53
*From Far Out Magazine:*
The long-running feud between David Draiman and Roger Waters has escalated further following recent comments from the Disturbed singer.
Draiman has been a vocal critic of Waters for several years, frequently accusing him of antisemitism and strongly opposing his political views. In past interviews, he has described Waters as a “monster” and “antisemitic to his rotten core,” reflecting a deeply entrenched disagreement between the two musicians.
The latest remarks, in which Draiman suggested he would physically confront Waters, underline how personal the dispute has become. Their conflict sits within a broader divide in the music world, where artists have increasingly taken opposing positions on political issues and public activism.
The exchange adds another chapter to one of rock’s more heated modern rivalries.
Read more for free:
[https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/disturbeds-david-draiman-threatens-to-punch-roger-waters/](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/disturbeds-david-draiman-threatens-to-punch-roger-waters/)
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Dust6013 days ago
+134
The guy who signed bombs with a big happy smile on his face, bombs that were then used to flatten a entire region killing thousands of innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict wants to call someone else a monster? F*** that egotistical d bag. F*** both these losers.
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ttsjunkie3 days ago
+31
Draiman did that? Nvm kept scrolling. Damn. Not they they come up on my playlist
often but not anymore.
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tilero11382 days ago
+16
He was one of the performers at the Ozzy/Sabbath farewell show last year, and when he took the stage the entire crowd was booing him. It was so loud it was audible on the livestream I was watching.
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motorambler2 days ago
+6
How is Waters a loser in your example? The guy has beenvocal about Israeli atrocities for YEARS
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provisionings1 day ago
+4
Roger is extremely ant-war and many people mistakenly assumed his dismay with the Ukraine situation is because he’s pro Russia or some other some right winged ideology .. when in reality he’s unhappy with the US meddling and just the war in general.
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Zauberer-IMDB2 days ago
+3
Just two pieces of shit on different sides of the aisle.
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provisionings2 days ago
+6
Roger is not a piece of shit.
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Zauberer-IMDB2 days ago
+7
Yeah, ok. He just thinks Ukraine is in the wrong after Russia invaded it.
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provisionings1 day ago
+2
You have to look at it from his perspective, an outsider who sees America for what it truly is, an imperialist country. Yeah.. Russia aint great. But Ukraine and Russia are right next to one another.. and they had an agreement.. the Minsk agreement and it was violated. Look, I’m not standing up for Russia at all but I get how others see us. How would we feel if China wanted to take Canada and place their military bases in Canada?. With their missiles pointing in our direction? We would feel threatened by that.. threatened enough to do something. Roger means well .. truly. Also.. Check out Jeff Sachs on YouTube. He explains it well.. the difference between what dipshit disturbd stands for compared to the russe/ukraine situation.. they don’t even compare. Roger is extremely anti war and Dramain is signing his name on bombs to be dropped on innocents.
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Luci-Noir2 days ago
+2
It’s called genocide.
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rumblefish00000003 days ago
+67
He's Roger Waters, this is not a first for him
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palabear3 days ago
+44
For him, it was Tuesday.
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Dickduck212 days ago
+16
He's like the only guy Conan O'Brien has ever talked shit about. Must leave quite an impression.
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WalterPecky3 days ago
+36
> where artists have increasingly taken opposing positions on political issues and public activism
This is nothing new. What is new is the scumbags like Disturb's singer, taking the side of the oppressor
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coopnjaxdad2 days ago
+31
How did we end up at "you said killing innocent people and babies is evil, that makes you an antisemite!"..
It truly is wild, oh and Disturbed sucks, always has and always will.
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FungusFly3 days ago
+21
The Disturbed Tour-Brought to you by Ticketmaster and AIPAC
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AdhesivenessFun20603 days ago
+35
Im sure waters deserves to be punched but not for this.
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Saul_T_Bauls2 days ago
+37
Disturbed is divorced dad rock. Disturbed sucks.
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SuperVaderMinion2 days ago
+3
It's so wild watching certain bands like Disturbed and Staind go from "angry white boy" music to "I lost my custody hearing" music
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lucidspark2 days ago
+3
As a divorced dad... ew I would never! :)
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Select-Appearance7071 day ago
+3
Cop funeral music
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Saul_T_Bauls1 day ago
+2
Oh wow, that's a good one! I'm saving that one.
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LasersAndButts3 days ago
+9
Bro looks like Bobby Kelly these days
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ThatguyfromBaltimore3 days ago
+3
Yeah you know what dude, I'm down with the sickness dude cause I broke my knee dude
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SnooDonuts38783 days ago
+8
He really is disturbed.
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Slob_King3 days ago
+57
Let’s assume both musicians are equally massive pieces of shit just for arguments sake, at least Roger Waters contributed something to the world that will be remembered in 2126 and beyond.
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WalterPecky3 days ago
+30
Hey now, what about that totally sick Sound of Silence cover
/S
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ManateeNipples3 days ago
+10
No the best thing about disturbed is the covers of The Sickness done by pet parrots on youtube lol
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Stormblessed_Photog2 days ago
+3
Personally, my favorite thing about Disturbed is the cover of Shaggy's "It Wasn't Me" that someone did in the style of Disturbed on YouTube that I found moderately amusing for a few minutes.
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owenstumor2 days ago
+4
Ooh WA AH AH!!!
You heard that in your head right?
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Few_Sheepherder85152 days ago
+1
Dude David got his ass kicked by his mom mid recording leave him alone
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Fickle_Narwhal2 days ago
+20
Draiman is a piece of shit. In other news, the sky is blue.
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Jaggs02 days ago
+12
i had backstage passes to ozzfest in 2000. i was standing on the side of the stage and he tried standing in front of my shorter friend. my friend was like 5' 5", draiman was just as little taller. so i, 6' 1" swapped with him. a few minutes later draiman moved in front of my friend again. so i swapped with him again. it happened like 3 more times over the course of whatever bands set it was. real class act
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PynchHitter2 days ago
+2
Um, ackshually, the sky isn’t blue. It MAKES things blue!
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_Badwulf_Bruh__3 days ago
+84
Last I checked criticizing a country isn’t anti-Semitic.
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Academic_Lead_89383 days ago
+10
In America you could lose your livelihood. You can call the President any word you want, in either party. Israel can never be criticized
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AppropriateSea57463 days ago
+72
Threatening to punch senior citizen for not wanting to fund genocide
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TheRealThordic2 days ago
+15
I mean Waters almost certainly deserves to be punched but if anyone gets to do it, it should be Gilmour or Mason.
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Reasonable_Tap_82153 days ago
+31
This guy ripped off the Sound of Silence and Land of Confusion, memorized the lyrics, and failed to comprehend the message of either.
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_IndyCar3 days ago
+33
I f****** hate this clown more and more every f****** year.
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Funk_Apus2 days ago
+6
Sad footnote threatens to punch music legend in face. There, I fixed the headline.
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Etzell3 days ago
+53
Well, it's better than autographing bombs that will be dropped on his house, I guess.
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rumski3 days ago
+15
I remember when the guys in Finch were dunking on Disturbed. Memmmmmoriesssss
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MrMansaMusa3 days ago
+57
Doesn't he have kids to bomb tho?
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Puppetmaster8582 days ago
+5
Draiman is such a fuckin loser and disturbed is certified fuckin trash
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ListerfiendLurks1 day ago
+2
I'm honestly baffled at how they got so famous. Rock and Roll music quality in general fell off cliff later the mid 90's with grunge falling out of favor. I'm convinced that quality void is the only reason they were able to become famous. Who were they even competing against for the spotlight Staind? POD? Lol.
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ArtJimp2 days ago
+7
They’re both assholes, but at least one of them has written some of the best albums of all time.
Ooo ah ha ah ah!
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TwistedPepperCan3 days ago
+14
There are a lot of reasons to dislike both of them but the newest reason to dislike Draiman is that he made me side with Waters on something.
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m190101013 days ago
+10
Draiman is a toe headed fuckstick
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OilMeUpStewart3 days ago
+12
Get up! Come on get down with genocide
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ErrorProfessional1432 days ago
+4
Is he the OOOO WAH AH AH AH AH guy?
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mangoboi4402 days ago
+4
I feel like on this issue Roger Waters def is owed some apologies.
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SnivyEyes2 days ago
+4
Roger is correct to criticize Israel for the crimes they have committed. That is not being antisemitic at all, how is it? There are many Jews that are maddened over this issue, does that make them also antisemitic?
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DtheAussieBoye2 days ago
+4
Goddamnit, he’s really going to make me side with local loudmouth Roger Waters, huh?
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Corporate-Scum3 days ago
+6
One is a genius, the other is completely irrelevant. Disturbed probably had to pay for this headline.
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a_sad_and_slow_handy3 days ago
+3
Not very christian of him
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Low_Intention_13272 days ago
+3
Corgan continued his hypothesis that Waters has made “very strong statements against Israel” because of this: “It makes sense to me that a man who grew up in the shadow of World War II, lost his daddy in a war, has really suffered the consequence of that pain, that he would be hypersensitive to a scenario like that.”
Yeah, f*** head. This is precisely why hes against what Israel's doing. Its very reminiscent of how Germany acted in WW2.
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TheNonCredibleHulk2 days ago
+1
Buuuuuuuuuuut, Russia invading Ukraine was "provoked".
F*** Roger Waters.
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my_boy_blu_2 days ago
+3
Really confused as to why Disturbed and Staind guy aren’t side by side kid rock doing his dumb thing.
They can be the unholy triumvirate of shitty alt rock bands from the 90s no one even remembers anymore.
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ekobres2 days ago
+3
Everyone Sucks Here.
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devilsbard3 days ago
+8
Can they both lose the fight?
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Prisoner30003 days ago
+12
Doesn’t he have some bombs to write on?
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theDudeofIB3 days ago
+6
Jake Paul called. If an old man needs punching, he'll take care of it.
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I_AM_ME-73 days ago
+2
Disturbed is music for 12 year olds with mommy issues.
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Skylon13 days ago
+4
Roger Waters is 82 years old lol.
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BuzzKill913 days ago
+6
Says the guy who signed munitions that mo doubt went on to kill.men, women and children.
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cheffartsonurfood3 days ago
+11
From what I gather, they are BOTH garbage.
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Games1422 days ago
+2
I remember seeing Rob Zombie live and disturbed played right after, Rob Zombie sounded fantastic and had excellent production on stage, Disturbed was so incredibly lame by comparison, the drunken fight that broke out as I was leaving was a lot more entertaining.
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Special_Life_96252 days ago
+2
Saw disturbed get in a fight with the band finch of stage in 2004.
If it weren’t for sevendust, draiman would’ve gotten his ass beat
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Unlikely_Villain2 days ago
+2
Waters is a prick, always has been. Not sure about the other guy, no idea who he is but hes probably one too.
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gingerisla2 days ago
+2
They should punch each other. It would never hit the wrong person.
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WafflesTheWookiee2 days ago
+2
I’m of the opinion that both of these men suck.
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Bob_The_Mexican2 days ago
+2
I have always found Disturbed to be utter dogshit and now that it's cool to hate on them I am extremely happy.
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cleveland_142 days ago
+2
Dave Draiman has a tiny d*** and is a morally bankrupt douchebag who enjoys supporting the mass bombing of innocent humans. Dave can take his way past it's prime dad buttrock band and pound sand
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Smooth-Lead90001 day ago
+2
It’s in his blood to hurt defenseless people.
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DingleBerryScone3 days ago
+3
Punch Roger Waters and deal with me, you low down dirty t***.
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MyAccountWasBanned73 days ago
+1
Draiman supports genocide and bombing kids. He can go f*** himself!
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Party-Kangaroo-11392 days ago
+2
After the punch, when his hand is broken (because that dude is one soft ass m***********) will Daviid scream out in pain "oooo ow ow ow ow" while Roger Waters just laughs at him?
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Wreckingshops2 days ago
+2
They're both colossal douchebags.
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Yabbatown2 days ago
+2
Draisman is a Bibi supporter and Waters in a putin apologist. Everyone mentioned in that sentence can go an f*** themselves.
Drainsman going to Isreal to write messages on shells is pretty low. Roger Waters has never found an atrocity outside of those that Israel commits that he won't find ways to blame on the US or the victims. His whole stance on the Ukraine war and thinking that allowing russia to conquer Ukraine is a really stupid, rat move.
They're both peices of shit, so pretty happy to watch them fight it out.
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highandinarabbithole2 days ago
+2
He’s a f****** loser and his band is a joke, easily one of the shittiest and corniest bands of the last 50 years. He should feel honored if Roger even knows he exists.
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tedbot672 days ago
+2
Wait...doesn't everybody want to punch Roger Waters?
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lectroid3 days ago
+2
If there’s a fight, maybe they’ll each disable the other’s ability to speak.
That way everyone wins.
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Acceptable-Bullfrog13 days ago
+2
They’re both assholes and I hope they do fight each other
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DukeDup0nt3 days ago
+2
A never-was threatens to punch a has-been.
No. One. Cares.
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No-Enthusiasm35793 days ago
+1
F#%k Draiman, Israel's actions are the main thing hurting Jews, second thing is jackwagons like him trying to lump calling out genocide as antisemitic
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Top5hottest3 days ago
+1
For since reason i kept reading the headline as john waters..
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Electronic-Lunch77352 days ago
+1
Wait, Disturbed has... FANS?!?!?
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Snakepli55ken2 days ago
+1
Genocide is bad mmkay.
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FlashyPaladin2 days ago
+1
This is so disappointing. I’ve always liked Disturbed’s music and I used to really respect this guy…
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SaulTNNutz2 days ago
+1
Roger Waters is a jerk but I haven't seen anything he's said that is clearly anti-semetic. He has criticized the Israeli government but has he actually said anything that is racially demeaning to the Jewish people?
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No_Strike6552 days ago
+1
He's trotted out some old anti Semitic the jews "run entertainment" shit plenty of times but he just really really hates Israel and any Jews who live there and has called for the whole state to ve dismantled and ship all the people back to "eastern Europe or wherever" because they have no real claim to the land and are just Europeans.
Basically yeh dude kinda takes it a bit farther than a lot of people in here want to pretend.
That being said Draiman is also a f****** tool so....
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GoldDoubleCup2 days ago
+1
He joined the BDS movement in 2011 and ever since there has been a flood of negative articles about him.
They squashed BDS so well that it hasn’t been from since around 2011.
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giftsfor_theearth2 days ago
+1
Does anyone still listen to disturbed?
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Snackdoc1892 days ago
+1
Waters is 82. Draiman must feel like a hell of a tough guy threatening an old man.
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babycallmemabel2 days ago
+1
If anyone would like an excellent song hating on David Draiman, check out Can I Have Your Autograph? by Stray From The Path.
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SnooLobsters67662 days ago
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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bunkbump2 days ago
+1
I like David Gilmore more anyways
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SomeGuyOverUnder2 days ago
+1
F****** Corgan. Such an idiot. Ugh.
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hanqingjao1 day ago
+1
Everyone sucks here. I wouldn't mind them taking each other out. And I was a massive fan of both bands.
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BonesMalone21 day ago
+1
Poor fella
Looks like the baby from Roger Rabbit 🥹
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NonProphet8theist1 day ago
+1
Ooo wa-a-a-a
Get up come on ya
Punch Roger Waters
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Filthy_Midian1 day ago
+1
Draiman is like 4'2". He'll have to jump pretty high to hit Waters face.
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Acrobatic-Bike-25071 day ago
+1
Drainman looks like a infected testicle.
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Familiar_Swim81715 hr ago
+1
I mean, maybe some musical talent would rub off on him. I know blasting drywall hasn’t helped his career any, but maybe this hypothetical punch would be different.
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