Do you believe that the current US president is a foreign asset ? Why or why not ?

The simple question you should always ask yourself is: "If he was a Russian asset what would he be doing differently" After a year of breaking up with all of Americas allies, starting a global tariff war that has led most of the west to seek other sources of trade, threatening to leave NATO, removing military aid for Ukraine, trying to force Ukraine to give up land to Russia, backing Israeli genocide and invading Iran so that 30% of the worlds oil supply is restricted, shyrocketing oil prices and then removing oil sanctions on Russia, whose biggest export and source of foreign currency is oil...what more could Putin ask for?

He's an asset to the ruling class, at the expense of everyone else

Asset to someone. Just doing the process of elimination on who.

Israel first, baby!!!

LMFAO, this kills me.

the mueller report pretty much lined out collusion with russia, was only just missing a slam dunk smoking gun. but ultimately concluded more probably than not

Or films him raping kids or watching prostitutes pee on a bed

exactly, Donny has 0 loyalty towards anything that's not money or not stroking his massive ego constantly

I do think if he were an explicitly trained and operated asset he'd be a lot more subtle and cautious because no one would assume they would be able to get away with all this.

To paraphrase West World, If you can't tell the difference, does it matter?

And we already got to know that he literally borrowed money from them. And the US somehow still elected this man… twice. I think the number of potential assets in the Electoral College sounds more worrying.

100%

Exactly! So the question really, Is he an intentional asset or really just that dumb?

Not true. He cut Russia off starlink, gave Ukraine permission to strike deeper into Russia than Biden ever did, and imposed sanctions on Russian oil companies that Biden didn't touch. He would not have done those if he was a Russian asset But he also cut Ukraine off from intelligence sharing for a while making them lose important territory and lots of soldiers, stopped giving them weapons for free and straight up stole some that they and their allies paid for, and literally rolled the red carpet out for Putin. The lesson here isn't that he's a Russian asset, because he's done things that were legitimately bad for Russia that even Biden didn't do. The lesson here is that he's a moron without any coherent strategy or goal.

I think it's clear he's also being blackmailed by netanyahu because I can't understand why else he attacked Iran.

> What would he be doing differently if he were a Russian asset? The answer, patently, is he would be doing nothing differently. I disagree. I think he if he was actually an active foreign asset, he’d be **WAAAAY** more subtle about it.  I think Trump is an extremely compromised individual who’s motivated solely by greed and the innumerable child r*** kompromat that virtually every hostile government has on him from over the decades. He’s also dumb as shit so it’s way easier to motivate him. 

He'd be doing what he's doing, but competently.

He would have not given lethal aid to Ukraine during his first term, which Obama refused to do during his presidency because he, correctly, thought it would be too inflammatory to the Russians and invite conflict. He would have actually ended the Ukraine conflict and stopped all aid and assistance and intelligence sharing/targeting data like he said he would on day one. This entire Russia narrative is, IMO, kept alive by propagandists and/or idiots, with the purpose of distracting from the fact that he is completely controlled by the Israelis. You can’t have two masters in such things.

Shortest, simplest, straightforward answer. Thanks.

Have you considered that he is, via blackmail and extortion, an Israeli asset? He is making war right now on one of Russia's allies (and Israel's enemies), hello McFly

Israel!

Because Russia wants the US to attack Iran?

Probably would not be sending weapons and intelligence to Ukraine to use against Russia lol

I think the term useful idiot is better, you promise him some money, scratch his back, and he throws his tantrum in another direction.

he would prop up Iran and cut starlink. The Russian asset theory is bonkers. He's Israel's proxy pretty much.

Right, intentionally or not he’s playing into Putin’s hands beautifully.

You guys are still pushing the Russian propaganda when it’s blatantly obvious he’s compromised by Israel?

Precisely. Whether he is or isn't a foreign agent, the outcomes since he's taken office are indistinguishable from that if a foreign intelligence officer were to have become POTUS. Scary shit.

This is so true. Copying and pasting what I just wrote in a different thread 15 mins ago: Right before he became president again in early 2025, for fun I asked Chatgpt what actions would a compromised US president take. Scary how accurate it was: >If a hypothetical U.S. president were a puppet of a foreign power with the goal of undermining and destabilizing the country, their actions might include: >1. Eroding Democratic Institutions: Undermining trust in free and fair elections, attacking the media as “fake news,” and delegitimizing the judiciary to weaken checks and balances. >2. Sowing Division: Amplifying cultural and political divides, stoking racial tensions, and promoting conspiracy theories to create chaos and distrust among citizens. >3. Alienating Allies: Damaging long-standing alliances with countries like those in NATO, pulling out of international agreements, and isolating the U.S. on the global stage. >4. Weakening National Security: Defunding or demoralizing intelligence agencies, leaking sensitive information, and compromising key defense strategies. >5. Economic Sabotage: Starting trade wars that hurt the domestic economy, increasing national debt irresponsibly, and implementing policies that widen income inequality. >6. Mishandling Crises: Failing to respond effectively to national disasters or health crises, or even deliberately exacerbating them to create disorder. >7. Promoting Corruption: Appointing unqualified or corrupt officials to key positions, engaging in self-dealing, and dismantling anti-corruption measures. >8. Suppressing Dissent: Expanding surveillance on political opponents, limiting free speech, or using federal agencies to target critics. >9. Undermining Education: Promoting disinformation, undermining critical thinking in schools, and cutting funding for education. >10. Environmental Neglect: Rolling back environmental protections, denying climate science, and allowing unchecked pollution. >These actions would systematically weaken the nation’s fabric, making it more vulnerable internally and externally. Let me know if you want to explore any of these points further!

Can definitely be both.

He has done 1000 things that match what Putin wants and maybe 1 thing that helps me. If he were only stupid, corrupt and narcissistic his results would be much more scattered across the spectrum.

Asset, not agent.

Agent and asset are not the same thing. Someone can unwillingly or unknowingly be an asset.

Useful idiots make the best tools. Dumb enough to manipulate and make them think it was their own idea in the first place.

I don’t think either are mutually exclusive

I mean yeah, but you don't think Russia and Israel have physical evidence of him committing sex crimes? Its pretty clear, from his own words even, that he spent most of his life committing a series of sex crimes so there being countries who have evidence of some of those crimes seems... pretty likely.

And has no morals and is a complete egomaniac

That would still make him an asset. Assets aren't just willing conspirators. Useful idiots to be taken advantage of who are reliably manipulatable are also considered assets.

certainly Israel, Saudi and Qatar know this to be true. As does Musk, Bezos, Zuck and the rest of the oligarchs.

I mean, that makes him a foreign asset… certainly a danger to our safety and security

Hanlon's Razor

Yes! Knowingly is the word. He is their asset, just a dumb one. Everyone knows how to play him - “oh yes, brilliant idea, you are the best ever” as they pull his strings like a puppet

Attacking Iran increased oil prices, and then him temporarily listing Russian sanctions to sell their oil for more then they have been able to doesn’t seem like helping them to you? Watch the documentary Active Measure (2018) and then you’ll understand how Trump has been an asset to Russia since 1991, when he was 3 billion in debt, and Russia bailed him out.

I always thought this was an outlandish idea until i saw that video of a debate where apparently everyone was expected to travel to Israel and Mamdani was being grilled on why he wouldn't. Edit: [Posting a link. ](https://youtube.com/shorts/9B-ILm-NP0s?si=YtinVguA7Ufxwyf4) Also, it's a different link than the one I posted further down in the thread because that channel was called out for being biased i guess? I'd like to add clarity that I don't personally believe that everyone in the US govt is an Israeli asset. I would like to say that there isn't any other country, even from larger represented demographics in the US itself which seems to hold as much influence and importance as Israel does. It's definitely strange to see from an outside perspective though. Also please don't take this as any sort of commentary on the Jewish people.

I appreciate your bravery.

Felt like I was going crazy with the amount of bots talking about Russia, when Israel and AIPAC is right f****** there.

Stupidity that somehow always aligns with Putin's will. It's not one or two or three cases. There is a mountain of evidence that points in this direction. If Trump's decisions always benefit Putin "because of stupidity" they are still effectively Putin's will. You may discuss the semantics all you want, but the outcomes speak for themselves. Russia first, Americans and America's allies last.

You mean Israel? The entire reason this war even exists