I could easily see it coming out in a few years that there was never even an attempt to make any deals, and that it was all pure market manipulation
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danb1kenobiApr 21, 2026
+90
We know that **now**
“US will not lift Hormuz blockade until deal made”
**Translation**: Friday, right after closing bell.
Remember how he used to screech about Pelosi? Pepperidge Farm remembers — that every accusation is a confession with these clowns.
Edit: I forgot about TACO Tuesday. [The second the market closed](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx297218m9vt)
Read more in my upcoming book: “The Grifter Always Grifts Twice.” /s
90
DarkLordoftheSmithsApr 21, 2026
+13
In 2 weeks
13
Common-Ad6470Apr 21, 2026
+3
…and diversion away from the Epstein files…👌
3
PM_Me-Your_FrecklesApr 21, 2026
+8
That's called "The Art of the Steal"
8
tettenApr 21, 2026
+5
I don't think it's pure market manipulation. The world just realized Iran is an emerging world power and they realized the US can't do anything without sacrificing lots of american troops where there is no public support for. Trump is stuck, he can't pull out because then he'd tanked the world economy for nothing and he can't go any further or he risks being the president that started vietnam 2.0. I'm certain in Iran everyone now is motivated to get nuclear weapons since his ending a civilization comment, he will be remembered as the president that turned Iran into a nuclear superpower.
5
LA_RamzApr 20, 2026
+15
grab em by the dealio
15
InstantShiningWizardApr 20, 2026
+1
Dussy*
1
MsterBoRaichuApr 21, 2026
+13
The deal has always been "Everything and your daughter for me and nothing for you."
13
captHijApr 20, 2026
+48
Apparently, Iran does not need to make a deal. They shut down the straight to punish the western nations supporting the conflict. In response to refusing to make a deal the US has decided to take over for Iran and shut down the straight. Best of all, the US put ships in the Gulf to shut things down, and there is no discussion about how they are supposed to leave. Somehow this is all supposed to make sense. It is for dementia chess.
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ChromaticDragonApr 20, 2026
+40
It makes a bit more sense than that.
That war doesn't, mind you. There is no justification for the war whatsoever that passes a smell test and holds water.
But the US blockade of ships to/from Iranian ports could be seen as way to strangle Iran. Iran can disrupt shipping and cause lots of pain for many countries. But with no other players involved, they could still export their own oil and generate revenue. The US blockade may be an attempt to kill that revenue cold.
Now... this adds even more pain to the rest of the world. It does nothing to help supply in the short-term. But if... and I do mean if... this leads to Iran simply collapsing and whatever remains chooses to be nice and peaceful, then maybe in the long-term this gets things more "open".
So it's not without *any* sense. It's just... well... predicated on a number of assumptions regarding speed of collapse, regime change and eventual peace... kinda like the entire war.
40
lluewhynApr 20, 2026
+22
It may or may not work. But it makes more sense than "We'll kill Khomeini and hope the entire regime folds over like a house of cards despite them deliberately organizing their regime for that not to happen" or "We'll threaten to bomb their civilians until they roll over".
22
Pressure_ChiefApr 20, 2026
+2
As long as the US blockade does not trigger a larger scale conflict by attacking basically any other country’s vessels that go through the straight.
2
JAWinksApr 20, 2026
+21
I get the impression the Trump is envious that Iran can charge tolls on this one important stretch of shipping, so he also wants in on that action
21
rabidstoatApr 21, 2026
+6
Which is why I am waiting him to start talking about seizing the Panama Canal again, so he can charge the tolls.
The Canal, though, is a canal, and it takes work to run ships through it and maintenance to keep things working, so it makes sense that tolls can be charged there. The strait is just an existing body of water.
6
Settra_RulezApr 21, 2026
+26
I think you’re fundamentally misunderstanding things. The US blockade stops ships that interact with Iranian ports. It’s meant to cut off the revenue Iran draws from oil exports. Some 90% of their GDP.
A ship leaving port in UAE could sail through the straight unimpeded by the US.
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NamellApr 21, 2026
+4
Losing that income of course hurts Iran.
Question is how long blockade has to last before current Iran leadership collapses? Cuba has been more or less embargoed for 60+ years. It has not collapsed yet.
4
Codex_DevApr 21, 2026
+2
Cuba is actually rationing gasoline right now. A good portion of their island doesn't even have power because Venezuela and Russia were providing them with oil.
2
rtaliaferroApr 21, 2026
+8
Thank you for that common sense clarity of the situation.
8
green_linkApr 20, 2026
+21
"punish the western nations supporting the conflict"
what western nations are supporting this war? every other nation i've seen speak about it says they don't support it. only the fascist pedophiles in the white house support this dumb illegal war
21
VanbyRiveronbucketApr 21, 2026
+12
If you have an American base in your country, you are supporting the war, .. this is how Iran sees it.
12
brapsniffsniffApr 21, 2026
+4
They are not blockading the strait they are blockading iranian ports so they can't export anything. That is why iran is unhappy about it. The US can and will let ships traverse the strait if they aren't going to an iranian port.
4
OSUfan88Apr 21, 2026
+4
I mean, it makes sense to me. Iran blockaded everyone but their own trade partners from the straight. So the USA blocked that.
It’s a much bigger issue for the straight being shut down to Iran than it is to the USA. That’s an immediate 50% cut to their economy.
4
Life_Without_LemonApr 21, 2026
+4
Infinite money glitch
4
I_like_MashromsApr 21, 2026
+2
Yeah there is, but it's only after he's over leveraged his hand and we have to ask for either exactly what we had already or slightly worse.
2
Gonzo_GonzaloApr 21, 2026
+2
Exactly, his goal is to drag this on as lo ny as possible to manipulate the markets for his own personal gain.
2
MrBrawnApr 20, 2026
+2
Concepts of a deal.
2
TruthisnotallowedApr 20, 2026
+456
Trump's ability to make a bad situation worse is amazing.
456
thefunkybassistApr 21, 2026
+60
Some say he was born for it
60
rogozh1nApr 21, 2026
+15
It's in his genes.
15
footpoleApr 21, 2026
+6
Evolution really fucked up I guess.
6
MumbertApr 21, 2026
+2
Some say he did it when being born, too!
2
mwmontroseApr 21, 2026
+15
Generational talent
15
WinterplatypusApr 21, 2026
+15
It's because he thinks like a bad businessman where you have a monopoly and can force customers to use a shit product. He doesn't understand how to run a business with competition, let alone a country. The US doesn't have a monopoly on the world, it's just a preferred partner. Make too many demands and other countries will suffer the inconvenience and cost of finding alternatives.
15
psylencedApr 21, 2026
+8
> It's because he thinks like a bad businessman where you have a monopoly and can force customers to use a shit product.
Or sue them into compliance/drain their finances with legal fees.
8
doomeddeathApr 20, 2026
+501
I'm so tired of this BS
501
Spare-Ant7119Apr 20, 2026
+246
It's insane. Republicans are destroying the country.
246
Additional_Quiet2600Apr 20, 2026
+282
The world's economy.
282
Aware_Produce_1218Apr 20, 2026
+74
IMF said Iran war could trigger global recession. Europe is 6 weeks away from running out of jet fuel. Southeast asian countries are calling on everyone to conserve energy. I guess this is winning.
74
Tutorbin76Apr 21, 2026
+31
While not much can be done for jets right now, all this is helping accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels.
There has been a massive surge in EV cars and trucks in most markets, as well as renewed (heh) interest in solar, wind, and BESS power generation.
Don't get me wrong. This situation is still bad, but this is one small silver lining.
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uberaresApr 20, 2026
+21
If this is winning, you ain’t seen nothing yet!
21
ScoobyDoNotApr 20, 2026
+44
If it was only the US the rest of us wouldn’t be so concerned.
44
onarainyafternoonApr 21, 2026
+3
They are literally incapable of good and responsible governance.
3
jd3marcoApr 21, 2026
+4
*Always have been.* (since they went the ‘southern man’ strategy and took the racism mantle from the Democrats.
4
GhostalMediaApr 20, 2026
+6
Iranians: “tell me about it”
6
Azhz96Apr 21, 2026
+13
I’m so tired of the US affecting everyone else, can we just build a giant wall that surround them and move on with our lives?
We will even pay for it.
13
TheMalibuApr 20, 2026
+80
God this guy has accidentally done more for the EV market than anyone.
80
planetarybumApr 21, 2026
+37
Countries are scrambling to change trade deals and increase energy independence so that they can't be held to ransom like this again.
Buy American oil? Not bloody likely.
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SafeKaracterApr 21, 2026
+6
They need to start making commercial electric planes
6
mccrawleyApr 21, 2026
+12
With the current technology they aren't feasible. I don't even think they have a road map for long haul commercial planes. We would need some kind of breakthrough in battery technology to achieve the energy density needed.
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JCMS99Apr 21, 2026
+9
They are - but on hydrogen fuel cell, not solid batteries.
https://www.airbus.com/en/innovation/energy-transition/hydrogen/zeroe-our-hydrogen-powered-aircraft
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SnooPineapples3952Apr 21, 2026
+6
Oh, there's definitely the incentive for that now, although the R&D cycle is going to take a while to build a genuinely good one.
6
FoundationGreat7072Apr 20, 2026
+158
what a time to be in the navy, this will be loong deployments.
158
gunsandgardeningApr 20, 2026
+30
Probably loving the hazard pay lol
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SeeingEyeDugApr 20, 2026
+56
A few hundred extra a month isn’t worth this for them.
56
ScoobiusMaximusApr 21, 2026
+9
Given how Trump rips off literally everyone else, including ICE, I expect that whatever bonuses he promises will never get paid.
9
AngryMillennialFUApr 20, 2026
+132
All trump knows how to do is make demands
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robthethriceApr 20, 2026
+51
Demands, ultimatums, chickening out, and occasionally blowing stuff up to prove he’s big and tough.
Throw in a lot of self promotion, some whining and revenge (and of course fraud and various r***). Round it out with a disgusting amount of greed, and you have the president.
Should probably mention an unhealthy level of dementia, and that diaper, and..
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Sieve-BoyApr 21, 2026
+9
Don't forget giving himself medals.
9
ObjectOfMyEffectionApr 21, 2026
+1
And those cute leprosy paws!
1
One-Marsupial2916Apr 20, 2026
+22
You don’t have the cards, Donny.
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[deleted]Apr 20, 2026
+52
[deleted]
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calebmkeApr 21, 2026
+7
Add one more at the end of the week, then another one next Monday…and on and on
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lolofafApr 21, 2026
+6
It's basically schrodingers straight at this point. It both is and isn't blocked by either Iran or the US (or both) at any given point in time. We don't know what's true until a ship tries to cross and either does or does not get stopped (or blown up).
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LesserGooglyMooglieApr 20, 2026
+43
He isn't even allowed in the Situation Room, all he is good for is signing EO's Miller wrote, shitting his pants 'Presidentially and taking calls from Putin and Netanyahu to find out his new marching orders...
Oh and tweeting demented nonsense...
We are not a serious country!
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happy_and_angryApr 20, 2026
+50
We're blocking the strait of Hormuz to get the strait of Hormuz open again. Amazing.
50
Odd-Row9485Apr 20, 2026
+10
Strait
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fec2245Apr 20, 2026
+3
We're a month into this, how have people not figured it out?
3
pingu_nootnootApr 21, 2026
+3
The longer you live, the more you realise not only how dumb people are, but also how resistant to learning.
It’s not just Donald Trump.
3
VaultersApr 21, 2026
+3
This is like school yard shit here.
Is there a teacher we can get in here to put the kids in time out?
3
antisocialdecayApr 20, 2026
+26
two weeks? tuesday?
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Phoenix_Maximus_13Apr 20, 2026
+8
Well Pakistan did just pitch a 2 week extension to him and Iran
8
XollectorApr 20, 2026
+7
Was it thru a draft email sent to Pakistan by the US?
7
Phoenix_Maximus_13Apr 20, 2026
+2
I have no idea just that the Pakistan prime minister put out the statement
2
MorphicoApr 21, 2026
+2
He's a see you next Tuesday kinda guy.
2
goodlife_arcApr 21, 2026
+5
I’ve seen this before… and most of u have at some point in your life. I saw it when my son was little. He would f*** around and we would warn him that he would get in trouble and he would continue doing it until the inevitable “go to your room, you are grounded” and then he would give this dumb look like he didn’t understand what was happening to him. You are seeing that with our toddler in chief, wait until the world puts so much pressure on the US that there will be no other option but to impeached him (that can and will happen) and he will have the same stupid look that my son gave me trying to understand what happened.
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steelcryoApr 21, 2026
+5
Enriching all his friends in American and Venezuelan oil, while utterly f****** the American people (and the rest of the world) to do so.
Shame his supporters are too dumb to realise it's them that's paying the price.
5
AnyEmployment4054Apr 21, 2026
+2
They will blame Biden for all this in a few years
2
brontosaurusguyApr 21, 2026
+6
You don't make "deals" with countries you're bombing you psychopath f*** sake
6
MoobooMagooApr 21, 2026
+5
TACO math tells me that the blockade will be lifted in around four days, and no deals will be made.
5
krwskater25Apr 20, 2026
+18
Looks at watch... Well???
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LogicalEgoApr 20, 2026
+4
We shouldn't have to "deal" with this moron.
4
ObjectOfMyEffectionApr 21, 2026
+3
You wouldn't understand, it's an art.
3
Kawakid69Apr 21, 2026
+4
Yeah thanks Aholes - while the rest of the world suffers because of your selfishness
4
haamfishApr 21, 2026
+8
When does the rest of the world put sanctions on the US for f****** with our shit?
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Laura_BidenApr 21, 2026
+3
No deal would be needed if you'd stayed out of the fkn country in the first place.
3
guiltycitizenApr 21, 2026
+3
He’s having these talks with himself and no one else. That’s why Iran keeps pumping out the LEGO vids
3
Comfortable_Cash_140Apr 21, 2026
+3
It's almost Tuesday...soooooo....
3
Hans_DelbruckApr 21, 2026
+3
Iran: "So your going to close the Straight until we make a deal instead of us closing the straight until we make a deal.?"
3
flirtmcdudesApr 21, 2026
+3
after Covid and how people got mad for having to wear a piece of cloth for a while, I knew the way the world would end would just be due to humans being stupid. This last year has been a steady stream of examples reinforcing that belief.
Trump and company are f****** around and making billions while the entire Republican Party allows them to. So much lasting damage and they just shrug, wild times
3
jwriceApr 21, 2026
+3
Iran: We'll open the Strait of Hormuz AND give up our entire supply of uranium on one condition.
US: I'm listening..
Iran: Release the full unredacted Epstein files to the American people so that the perpetrators can be brought to justice.
US: They mentioned Epstein. Quick, let's start World War 3 as a distraction.
3
takesthebiscuitApr 21, 2026
+3
This is incredibly simple to resolve,
Get to Lowes, buy some polyester rope and some gold paint
Spray the rope gold, tie a noose in it
Present to Trump as the Iranian Golden Noose of Justice (their highest honour) in recognition of the amazing peace deal Trump just agreed
The decrepit fool will mount the noose in his office, and open the strait due to the honour,
3
SamuelDoctorApr 21, 2026
+3
"If you don't reopen the straight, we'll blockade it."
So, brent is going to be $200/barrel by November, then?
3
InterstellarRedditApr 20, 2026
+7
This means that tomorrow he flips the script
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[deleted]Apr 20, 2026
+15
[deleted]
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fec2245Apr 20, 2026
+11
Certain segments of the Iranian government very obviously want a deal, others are more reluctant. There's no person that speaks for the whole government, much less the whole country.
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this_dudeagainApr 21, 2026
+2
Of course they do they just don't want to look weak.
2
HarEr89Apr 20, 2026
+2
The markets don't care.
2
DJBreadwinnerApr 21, 2026
+2
That's pretty crazy considering we won the war on the first day, and it wasn't even a war at all.
/s
2
AverageLiberalJoeApr 21, 2026
+2
You are paying for this. Every day.
2
LMurch13Apr 21, 2026
+2
Maybe Obama or Biden would be willing to help Trump talk to Iran? Trump can't seem to get it done.
2
CockalorumApr 21, 2026
+2
Which he will promptly break
2
DarkLordoftheSmithsApr 21, 2026
+2
Oh, so never then
2
FlowRiderBobApr 21, 2026
+2
Anyone thinking of having tacos tomorrow?
2
dchristiaensApr 21, 2026
+2
Best case scenario he is declared unfit and goes to jail for the Epstein. I've followed him for almost 50 years. It has always made me sick that he's got away with everything because he's a person of privilege. Rich people suck
2
EmbarrassedCockRingApr 21, 2026
+2
So wait... The problem was that we attacked Iran and then they closed the straight. Now the US is blocking the strait until Iran makes a deal about opening the straight that the US is blocking because they were attacked? Lmaooooo
2
Any-Following6236Apr 21, 2026
+2
Riiight. Israel just wants to continue killing people. So much for being about peace, right?
2
VaultersApr 21, 2026
+2
Oh it's Monday
2
gamerdudeNYCApr 21, 2026
+2
I love how he always says there’s a deal, MAGA and FoxNews laud him as a master negotiator genius… and then there’s no deal
2
hypocalyptoApr 21, 2026
+2
I thought the navy of Iran was destroyed. How are they sending gunships to shoot at Indian ships?
2
Main-Video-8545Apr 21, 2026
+2
The art of market manipulation.
2
rathemightyApr 21, 2026
+2
Iran already offered a deal: tell the truth about Epstein Island and they’ll open the strait
2
RMRdesignApr 21, 2026
+2
What a unique way to throw money away. Start a war, kill anyone they could have reasonably negotiated with, and have you navy play crossing guard. All while everyone back home pays for this mess with higher prices on everything.
2
MrNewVegas2077Apr 21, 2026
+2
Taco Tuesday 🌮
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CaligulaQCApr 21, 2026
+2
I guess they didn’t asked Ciri what’s the definition of a ceasefire.. /s
2
Trifang420Apr 21, 2026
+2
He's so stupid! My God
2
BlakeDragonApr 21, 2026
+2
Peace deals are normally made with both parties giving and taking.
However it's different if dealing with a bully like Trump who likes an oppressor.
2
IdiotBOT1234Apr 21, 2026
+2
He really did this time. There’s no way his ego will help America out of this jam. All of it totally unnecessary!
2
HattkakeApr 21, 2026
+2
So... In Trump speak that means that the blockade will be lifted even if no deal is made. And then closed again and opened again and closed again and opened again. And closed again. And then opened before it is closed again.
Somebody is going to make a ton on the stock market at the same time.
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crookdmouthApr 20, 2026
+3
Friday:"we made a deal"
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Thanato26Apr 20, 2026
+2
So iran will only open the strait if the U stops blockaiding them. And the us wont stop blockading Iran unless they open the strait.
So muxh for the art of the deal
2
Leading-Caramel-7740Apr 20, 2026
+5
We are the terrorists now.
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zanfarApr 20, 2026
+6
now?
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mixxitukApr 20, 2026
+2
$8.64 per gallon for petrol in UK guys you are driving us to renewables
2
PlaineswalkerApr 20, 2026
+5
Wasn't a deal made already? Who didn't uphold the deal from last week?
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Professional-Ad3874Apr 20, 2026
+3
the ceasefire deal was only for 2 weeks. That ends Wednesday.
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Odd-Row9485Apr 20, 2026
+2
Tuesday 8 pm est
2
YvaelleApr 21, 2026
+3
If you mean the claim on Friday, the Iranian Foreign Minister said that he didn't know who Trump thought he was talking to, but it wasn't Iran.
Trump made it up.
3
supercali45Apr 20, 2026
+2
Dude just going in circles while the world burns
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batotitApr 21, 2026
+2
So much for a quick war. This will drag on for years, and as usual, a democrat president will be the one fixing this in the future.
2
drinkduffdryApr 20, 2026
+2
Tacos again?
2
Tokey_TokeyApr 20, 2026
+1
*in an old decrepit voice* must protect the petrodollar
1
bignuts3000Apr 20, 2026
+1
Just give it a couple of days…..
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IamanimiteApr 20, 2026
+1
Good job. Great job. Lololololololilpeenie
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Actual_Load_3914Apr 20, 2026
+1
But didn't we already made the deal 3-4 times by now. I remember our great leader mention that a few times. /s
1
Severe_Air_4353Apr 21, 2026
+1
Stop stealing Irans tankers . But that’s not what Pete told you , he wants a few bucks in his pocket to .
1
mistersuaveApr 21, 2026
+1
Fake it 'til you make it.
He made it.
1
motohaasApr 21, 2026
+1
No deal until Epstein case resolved
1
TV-TommyApr 21, 2026
+1
I have the strong sensation to call the POTUS an ass!
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Tutorbin76Apr 21, 2026
+1
But... but didn't that old guy post "Open the f...ing strait" on Easter Sunday?
1
DullFaithlessness82Apr 21, 2026
+1
From the sounds of it he is more interested in trying to build a safe room. When his coup fails him and his cronies will dip in and still try to claim power and surround it with his little gestapo army.
1
KnephApr 21, 2026
+1
There’s still more stocks to manipulate
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SnooPineapples3952Apr 21, 2026
+1
If the Iranians ever state that they won't negotiate with this administration in any way until Trump is gone, impeachment and removal is going to set a new land speed record if this keeps up for much longer.
1
mjduceApr 21, 2026
+1
Wait... who was blocking it again? Why are they twisting it to sound like they have the power here
1
UsusMeditandoApr 21, 2026
+1
Two weeks… on a Tuesday.
1
BoomZhakaLakaApr 21, 2026
+1
You don't blockade me, I blockade you!
1
OrbeaSevenApr 21, 2026
+1
Was this a Monday or Tuesday he said this? Changes daily, of course.
1
ken_the_boxerApr 21, 2026
+2
We're at hourly now
2
DonQuigleoneApr 21, 2026
+1
.... I thought they already made a deal?
1
Mba1956Apr 21, 2026
+1
Either that or everyone on the naval vessels die of starvation.
1
MesozOwenApr 21, 2026
+1
Correct me if I’m wrong but this Trump guy does not seem very good at his job.
1
Osiris-Amun-RaApr 21, 2026
+1
From his upcoming new book ***"The Fart of The Deal".***
Published by TACO press.
1
shep2105Apr 21, 2026
+1
I don't think Iran cares.
They'll just shut down the Bab al-Mandeb
Other countries are already deciding to use Yuan, NOT the US petrol dollar for purchases and sales. That will cripple us on top of everything else trump has done to cripple us.
1
PhatYeeterApr 21, 2026
+1
Deal will be announced Thursday afternoon
1
GregistopalApr 21, 2026
+1
didnt he say it would be open forever liek a day ago
1
Humble-Translator-88Apr 21, 2026
+1
Trump is dumb, why doesn't he just rename it Hormuz of America and claim ownership. /s
1
Explicit_TechApr 21, 2026
+1
Weren't they negotiating right before he went and killed their leader and attacked them?
What deal is there to make? Threatening people is a lousy deal.
1
ScubadrewApr 21, 2026
+1
They're clearly waiting for him to die. I really don't blame them. But, I also don't want to suffer when I fill my gas tank.
1
raresaturnApr 21, 2026
+1
So are they sending in Obama to make the deal?
1
bingeboyApr 21, 2026
+1
What’s the total cost of this war so far for us and our allies? And we blew up all those kids. So terrible 😞
1
MorfeApr 21, 2026
+1
You're not blockading, I'm blockading.
Iran must be like ok bro go for it.
1
NorthernreachApr 21, 2026
+1
Or till Friday.
1
GahugafugaApr 21, 2026
+1
We had a deal with Iran. You tore it up you dumb m***********.
1
NameLipsApr 21, 2026
+1
Didn't we make a deal last week, and Iran said we broke the deal by not lifting the blockade? And didn't we make a deal two weeks ago, but iseral broke the deal by continuing to bomb Lebanon?
Come to think of it, wasn't the Strait open last month and commerce flowing normally?
I feel like the only progress we're trying to make is undoing the mess we caused.
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