They are deporting people to a country that is currently at war.
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dafunkmunk5 days ago
+113
They are deporting people who have never been there have no lineage there and the country also just happens to be at war
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callmechristianblack5 days ago
+25
To be fair, the country they are being deported from is also at war
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sprashoo4 days ago
+21
Aside from being the same word the comparison is absurd. You should look up what’s been happening in DRC for the past 30 years.
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sys_dam4 days ago
+5
I might be wrong but I think that's the joke.
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VideoGameDevArtist4 days ago
+2
This isn't a f****** joke.
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Foghkouteconvnhxbkgv2 days ago
+1
Also, they dont know the language there.
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UnkindRavenz4 days ago
-9
What lineage do they have in America?
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trueburner4 days ago
+4
not sure why you think this is a good point, thats the reason the us claims to be deporting them. so why would they deport them to another country where they have no legal relationship, where they are likely even further from their home country, in a very dangerous country, and with little options to leave. also many deportees do have ties to the us through family members, so its much more likely they have ties to the us than the congo.
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ThePickleConnoisseur5 days ago
+33
Essentially contracting out the deportation so they send them to a hub then have the country handle the rest
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+11
There is no incentive to handle them. Also kongo is not able to do it, theres a reason why deportation is such a debatted topic in the whole western world
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Pimpwerx5 days ago
+22
The irony that my mom worked asylum case for the US in Congo. WTF would we be sending anyone there?
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jimbarino5 days ago
+28
Same reason Auschwitz wasn't in Germany. It's bad PR to let citizens see the work/death camps.
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scrotumscab5 days ago
+27
It's better optics to have someone else dig the mass graves
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Cheeze1875 days ago
+4
Or conscription.
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ANTILAMER135 days ago
+19
Sadly, this stuff started in 2016-2019. Covid slowed their rollout of this. I don’t know if the general population will now understand the this is why Kamala Harris said “don’t come here.”
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ragequitteroffureh5 days ago
If the deporting country is also at war, doesn't that just sort of cancel it out?
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E_Kristalin5 days ago
+11
There is no war in the USA, USA only brings war to other countries.
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ragequitteroffureh5 days ago
Like Frankie said, it takes two tribes. Or something like that.
With the Americans, it's mostly a matter of distance.
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arsinoe7165 days ago
+95
DR Congo will use the $ to buy arms from the US in their ongoing war with Rwanda.
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Pokemon_Name_Rater5 days ago
+21
If the UK revives the Rwanda deal we can, between us, fund both sides of a bloody conflict in Africa. It'll be just like old times.
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iamstephen11285 days ago
+13
So Iran Contra but with people? 🤦🏿♂️
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Geologue-6664 days ago
+2
D R Congo will use the money to buy mansions and lands on the Mediterranean for the president’s family.
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Braided_Marxist4 days ago
+2
This guy knows Congolese history
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ThanklessTask4 days ago
+31
"The human rights situation across the Democratic Republic of Congo remains dire"
And so on...
https://www.hrw.org/africa/democratic-republic-congo
America, you need to realise the world is watching you shit yourself in public.
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unfortunatebag4 days ago
+4
Imagine thinking the average American cares about this at all.
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Fellowship_95 days ago
+16
And I thought the UK-Rwanda deal was bad. Somehow the Americans can always be trusted to make our worst decisions look sane by comparison.
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Available_Finger_5134 days ago
+18
Literally one of the least livable places in the world...
This is evil
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Braided_Marxist4 days ago
+1
It’s the size of most of Europe, don’t paint it with such a broad brush. Parts like Kinshasa are fine, totally modern and urban and comparably safe to many large cities.
But the East where the war is is indeed dangerous.
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SnowLord025 days ago
+81
That is an actual inhumane punishment, Congo is one of the worst countries in The world
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ThePickleConnoisseur5 days ago
+25
Lowest bidder probably
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ZenkaiZ5 days ago
+4
But have you considered how dangerous the people we're exporting are?
/s
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madladhadsaddad5 days ago
-12
That's a feature not a bug. It will help deter people from wanting to try get access to the US if they know they might end up in Congo.
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+19
Yeah, many of them legal ayslum seekers...
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+5
But one of the richest countries in the world, starting wars all the time cant afford to take refugees, that would be christian..
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Eva_Griffin_Beak5 days ago
+35
How can that be legal? It is probably not? But how can this be happening?
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snekasan5 days ago
+42
You must be new here?! Norm- and rule- breaking behavior has become the new normal and business as usual for at least a decade now. The news cycles are so short nothing matters more than a blip within a self contained 24hr window of mild lukewarm outrage.
A global conspiracy of the wealthy and politically powerful to evade taxes and accountability was discovered in the Panama papers and all it led to was a journalist dead by a car bomb. No further consequences for the guilty.
A global conspiracy of the wealthy and politically powerful to r*** children was discovered and 1) the state is still hiding most of the files and 2) no consequences have been suffered by anyone but the fall guy himself.
A war has broken out for no apparent reason but spite and is costing lives and affecting the living costs of innocent civilians across the globe.
You basically have to expect the worst and even then it definitely will get worse. That’s how it can be happening.
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Imaginary_Try_14085 days ago
+4
You get it. I appreciate when somebody lays it out simply like this.
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Eva_Griffin_Beak4 days ago
+1
Of course I am not. This was more rhetorical and helplessness speaking.
I said 12 years ago that Trump is Hitler and will destroy the US. I hate when I am right.
I always hated the condescending attitudes of the Americans who feel they are the best and above everyone, that these things cannot be happening to them. Something like in Germany 90 years ago cannot be happening to them. We are better. We are the best. We are above everyone. With all their patriotic flags and ignorance. Well, the US is not better and has now their own Hitler. And the greed, the hustle, the inhumanity - it's at his height.
I did not expect it to really go that far and feel like I live in a nightmare with delulus and idiots around me.
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nvidiastock5 days ago
+18
The law only applies if people are willing to enforce it. Enforcement for the president breaking the law is impeachment and we all saw how that went.
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future_shoes5 days ago
+1
Deporting someone to a third party country is legal in the US.
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BasicPhysiology4 days ago
+7
It was legal to send people to death camps in Nazi Germany too.
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[deleted]4 days ago
+1
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BasicPhysiology4 days ago
+3
>They should have followed asylum rules.
Are you referring to immigrants in Nazi Germany here or immigrants in Fascist America?
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hammer_it_out4 days ago
+1
It's not legal per se, but the 'checks and balances' set up to prevent such illegal acts from occuring have been proven to be mostly a paper tiger at this point, and the leader of the US has spent his entire life doing whatever he wants with no consequences.
EDIT: Basically the US is a failed state in the making and laws mean nothing if you have enough political power or enough wealth.
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red_firetruck4 days ago
+1
US says the person is to be deported, person responds they can't go back to where they are from since it isn't safe. US says okay we found you a different country to deport you to :\^).
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future_shoes5 days ago
-1
It's legal in the US.
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Sheellaa5 days ago
+8
Isn't that a war zone 🤔
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catperson777895 days ago
+6
Acting like trump and his cronies give a shit.
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DarkKingfisher7775 days ago
+35
Whatever third country they might be from can't be worse than DR Congo
So they will just go back to home unless it's Somalia or something.
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AdInfamous62905 days ago
+66
Most third country migrants to the US come from central or southern America. The DR of Congo is in Africa, and as they are being deposited there with likely no money or resources, they are effectively stuck there now. Can’t exactly swim across the Atlantic.
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+8
So you say they have money on them? Yes, they certainly will be able to peacefully book a flight home in a defacto failed state with armed gangs and warlords controlling everything
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WalkFreeeee4 days ago
+1
And that's not taking into account that flights to / from Congo are very expensive.
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SteakHausMann5 days ago
+7
If they can afford the flight
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Pitiful-MobileGamer5 days ago
+6
If they're allowed to fly, once on the ground and released so many of them are being scooped up by criminal gangs and extorted.
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Lonely4ever24 days ago
+4
Do you Americans have brains? Somalia has a higher standard of living than Dr Congo. People trade and have normal lives. Those in Somalia live with their families and because of that have a normal life there. Deporting refugees from Somalia to dr Congo place with no family ties and being easily killed on sight is better? No matter how unstable a country is, when you have a family there, the survival is far better than in an unstable foreign country with war going on.
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Annual_Music33694 days ago
+1
Would they walk? Take Uber??? How exactly they could possibly "go back to home" even if we ignor reality and imagine that authorities upon receiving this cargo of useful slaves let them go?
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highinthemountains4 days ago
+3
I wonder how many women and children will be trafficked from these deportations?
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Geologue-6664 days ago
+3
They are deporting people to a country where your family has to bring you food if they want you to survive when you are in prison.
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OlderThanMyParents4 days ago
+3
Much as I hate the phrase, because it sounds smug and reductive "The cruelty is the point" is the most accurate description of this practice I can think of.
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Ginger-Nerd5 days ago
+16
Took me a second to realise DR was Democratic Republic, and not Doctor.
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delinquentfatcat5 days ago
+42
When a country's official name contains "Democratic", you can bet it's not democratic.
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alexwasashrimp5 days ago
+21
And when it's "People's", you know the people have no power and no rights there.
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+2
Yep, its basically the worst country in the world
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oeboer4 days ago
+1
Ellinikí Dimokratía?
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delinquentfatcat4 days ago
+1
That's Hellenic Republic in English.
Not to be confused with, say, the German Democratic Republic (rip). Or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
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LiterallyAntiqueBody5 days ago
+6
I always refer to it as Doctor Congo.
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Royal-Hunter38925 days ago
+6
I'll give you one better - DPRK
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BlumbleBee123B5 days ago
+3
They’re basically a dentist, don’t be a PI
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Chemical-Lettuce24975 days ago
+1
Same, sounds like a good name for a new James bond movie
Not well versed on bond, but I don't believe he's had a mission to Africa yet.. let's get it done
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Pitiful-MobileGamer5 days ago
+5
If you dig a little deeper into this topic, after these deported individuals are delivered. There is a significant involvement of the criminal element at the destination country, likely aligned to those in power; then the deported are then extorted with their life on the line.
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TreasureIsland75 days ago
+6
Not human trafficking though! Right?
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Annual_Music33694 days ago
+2
Don't you have in US a rock big enough to push them down Sparta-like? Planes are expensive and bad for ecology and anyway to die fast would be a better option in this case.
Or is Congo paying US for slaves?
How it's called deportation when people are just forced to a random place with no means to survive? No money home no family no language (do US Americans even realize that they don't speak English in Congo?) no residence permit. Even IF they were to be released to go free after landing there.
That's just crazy. Let's call it what it is. "DR Congo to receive c**** slaves from US under new deal"
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Successful-Daikon7774 days ago
+5
The USA is the same level Nazi that Israel is, but hasn’t fully been able to implement it yet.
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Tu_mama_me_ama_mucho4 days ago
-1
Trump didn't expect white people protesting against ICE
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illuminarok5 days ago
+3
So we're sending people to sub-Saharan Africa without the proper vaccinations to be there? While they're at war? Absolutely nothing bad is going to happen as a result of this. /s
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Weary_Turnover_84995 days ago
You know there are vaccines also in Africa. It's not some middle ages place
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FKJVMMP4 days ago
+7
Africa in general isn’t. DR Congo might as well be. Don’t foresee these people popping into the local hospital for a quick couple of shots any time soon.
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mangofruitdude5 days ago
+4
Seriously how much more does it take for americans to start protesting for real and not just show funny signs? In france the government would have been gone 2 months ago already...
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Wraithstorm20094 days ago
+3
The entirety of France is about the same size as Texas, the US is too big to organize until the majority of the populations lives are at stake, which will never happen. As long as the government maintains our bread and circuses the war crimes will continue and the pedophiles will keep amassing their fortunes. We're all overworked, underpaid and too f****** tired to enact actual change in our country.
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mangofruitdude4 days ago
+2
Thanks now im even more depressed lmao
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PippaTulip4 days ago
+2
Sounds very similar to the former USSR.
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Aware_Crazy56885 days ago
+3
With what money? The US is God k ow how much in debt
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Arbiter51x4 days ago
+1
I cant think of a worse country to be deported to.
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edgyestedgearound4 days ago
+1
Just throwing them straight in to hell
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Braided_Marxist4 days ago
+1
Leaders who accept this deal are trading their humanity for a few bucks. No respect for Tsihikedi’s government. I guarantee the Congolese people won’t see a cent of benefit for this
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pieman74145 days ago
+1
Going to be the same as the UK Rwanda plan I assume. It'll cost a fuckton of money and no one will actually get sent
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plague0424 days ago
+1
Are we talking criminal deportees here, or people caught by ICE?
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snarky_answer4 days ago
+2
Little bit of A, little bit of B. These are people who did not have documents claiming citizenship for the counties they said they came from to keep the US from knowing their actual identity for criminal reasons or to complicate them getting sent back, as it’s hard to refute an asylum case when you don’t know the persons circumstances.
When the US tries to deport them, the stated home country refuses to accept them. The US has no obligation to hold them, and has set up these deals with other countries to take in the deportees.
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PippaTulip4 days ago
+1
Do you think Europe and many other parts of the world don't have exactly the same problem? Yes, it's a very difficult problem but we keep these people in humane detention. You can't send them to some hellhole as slaves.
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Annual_Music33694 days ago
-1
But even criminals are humans and shouldn't be sent like a cargo wherever ICE wants.
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BodybuilderHefty3335 days ago
-13
Obviously this is a disgusting and outrageous violation of human rights but has anyone here ever been to Africa? It is not a refugee camp. Kinshasa is a city of like 10 million people with an awesome music scene. It is not punishment or living in a cage, it is a country welcoming them.
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Sea_Public_66914 days ago
+8
There is a huge difference between going to Africa as a tourist and having to life there. DR kongo suffers from all kinds of human rights violations, crime, poverty, tropical disease
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callmechristianblack5 days ago
+9
Are they going clubbing or to prison though?
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BodybuilderHefty3335 days ago
-5
Just deported. They don't want to be deported to country they came from or country wont accept them.
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